Every year since Bush's first term the statistics are consistently 49%/51% split opinion/vote. That's bullshit, even when broken down by state it's all 50/50, I trust my intuition with my life and it's telling me that these statistics are FAKE and the folks who pull the strings want us to be divided 50/50 and maim eachother.

Obama, McCain, this is the most obvious set-up since 9-11. The attitude of Obama supporters is especially ridiculous, he is revered as a god and HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR YOU BUT FEED YOU A PIPE DREAM. McCain, he isn't serious and is just in the race to make Obama look even more competent.

I've already seen the effects first hand. A nigger, not a black man, was heated with me for a very childish reason and in his defense said that the things I was saying "sounded like something McCain would say", and that he was superior for being an Obama supporter.

WE NEED A REALITY CHECK, PLEASE LISTEN TO ME WITH YOUR HEARTS! If either of these "candidates" were qualified to wipe my ass they would be experiencing MEDIA BLACKOUT, this should be painfully obvious.

I won't fight my brothers over the "election" where our votes supposedly count but never adds up, and the choices are both unacceptable.

We are grown men and women, we don't need our hands held, we're being manipulated and ran in circles by an abusive parent. Not even the wisest elderly are adults, they are deformed children of the people who write this bad play we're stuck in, it's not even a matter of blaming ANY government anymore. We are adults and god damnit we can take care of ourselves or die trying. WE NEED TO GET ALONG AND HELP EACHOTHER OUT AND NOT TURN A COLD SHOULDER TO OUR LOVED ONES AND NEIGHBORS OVER THIS RIDICULOUS CAMPAIGN.

I KNOW what Obama and McCain have NOT done for me, I know what my loved ones, family, neighbors, and fellow man HAVE time and time again. Please people, I'm begging you to cut the chord and realize WE are change and we always have been. Keep asking yourself what these 2 candidates that are so fiercely fought over to the point of violence have done for YOU, better yet what have they REFUSED to do for you when they've had the chance.

When those around me are fighting for either red or blue by spilling blood, I'll be denouncing these false saviors as just that, false saviors. I will be erasing boundaries and teaching what love is again for your fellow man/woman, I'll be letting people know that this earth didn't come into existence with a democratic and republican party, just humans and the love, or lack of it that they carry out upon their fellow humans.

If you don't agree or commend a word I've said then at least do me a favor as a fellow human that cares as I would for you. Clear your mind and be receptive to your inner voice of love (god if you're religious), feel the vibrations/energy that is being given off of everything, feel our collective unconcious, at least FEEL the truth for yourself instead of letting MSNBC do it for you.

I hope this message will get through to someone, anyone that's been stuck in this illusion feeling that there's a better way for us to thrive as a whole than the tortuous decisions we've been FORCED to make "for our own good", and to "express our FREEDOM (SIC)".

IF I ONLY HAVE 2 CHOICES AND ALWAYS WILL, AND THESE CHOICES ARE ALREADY CHOSEN, THEN I HAVE NOTHING AT ALL, I AM NOTHING MORE THAN A FOOL TO BELIEVE WITH MY VERY BEING THAT I ACTUALLY HAVE A CHOICE, PLEASE REALIZE THIS.

All I can do is leave it at that and hope for the best, It's killing me to watch this twisted abusive parent turn it's own children against eachother and be made to fight with horrific outcomes for their own greedy and completely self-centered ways. I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS EVEN IF I CAN"T DO ANYTHING BUT WRITING THIS TO HELP OUT THE SITUATION, I KNOW WHAT I DO STAND FOR AND THERE ARE LOTS OF US WAITING PATIENTLY AND SILENTLY FOR THE MOMENT OF HESITATION WHERE WE GO FOR THE JUGGULAR AND TAKE BACK WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS -- NOT AMERICA, BUT THE EARTH AND EVERYONE'S RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND EACHOTHER.

peace bitches, I won't see you at the voting stands because I always chose not to take sides when my parents were drunk and fighting. I won't be having a side dish of dog shit with my lobster, nor a side dish of vomit, i'll just take my fucking lobster if ya feel me.

Keep asking yourself what these 2 candidates that are so fiercely fought over to the point of violence have done for YOU, better yet what have they REFUSED to do for you when they've had the chance.

What have ANY presidential candidate ever done for us? Besides maybe Washington. and yet we still elect people because we need them. Stop bieng a dumbass.

What have ANY presidential candidate ever done for us? Besides maybe Washington. and yet we still elect people because we need them. Stop bieng a dumbass.

I'd say FDR did some good..his policies should have been abolished immediately after the Great Depression was over.

I'd say FDR did some good..his policies should have been abolished immediately after the Great Depression was over.

I was implying of what good they did before they were elected.

I see a lot of problems in your first post, but no solutions.

Many people see the failings of the two party system overrun by corporate interests and many people know what sort of government they want to achieve. Unfortunately very few of these can give you a realistic path from A to B.

So you recognise what's wrong (and you know where you think the system should be going), but how are you going to get it there? (This isn't a devils advocate post by the way, because I have no concrete idea on how to achieve this through democratic means).

*Also, instead of not turning up at all to the poll station you may as well write in the 3rd party candidate which comes closest to matching your beliefs, or indeed the one which has "done the most to help you".

Of course you can do something! By claiming that its futile means that they've already won. I for one totally agree with Villrux. He's hit the nail on the noggin and explained Humanities problem in its purest form. Disregarding all beliefs and ideologies the core problem is that we've lost our ways because of the Corporatocracy. I see its infestation all around me, not in its physical form but in its mental form. Ask any American what they think about Terrorism and the same answer will be, "They are terrible people that need to be wiped off the face of the Earth....thats how we take care of the terrorist problem". They fail to even think for themselves. Not a single person I have ever talked to besides my Political Science Professor, will question why such a phenomenon even exists in the first place. Now I'm not saying I endorse Terrorism and I think it should be wiped out as a practice for any means, but what I'm saying is you can't just accept that terrorists exists and the only way to get rid of them is to kill them. You must look deeper and understand why someone would even strap a bomb to their chest and kill a bunch of people. You have to understand this to find the reason how it even started.

But still, no one questions it because they know the answer lies in a cournicopia of information. Mountains of information that takes a lot of time to fully analyze and understand how it actually works. The problem is our government, which is so finely meshed with corporations, molded its society into a docile, lazy, but ultimately empty society. No one cares about the problems and because of this we elect and put all of our faith into one body so they can understand and solve the problem. But really what everyone fails to understand is that they are the problem. Terrorism is a manifestation of the problems the corporatocracy started in the first place. And it doesn't just end with terrorism. Almost every negative aspect you witness from the news points back to the system we put our faith in. We're being run but greedy, money laundering, murdering extortionists....and yet nobody speaks of it. We are all fully aware of the problems yet we do nothing.

You guys say this problem is so big and nothing can be done...well thats your theory but I plan on doing something about this. My advice to people who want real change is to expand your knowledge beyond your educational institutes. Learning is the key because it is knowledge that will be the crutch to get us back on our feet. It is knowledge not violence, that will save humanity. Learn and understand how life works...then spread the message. You may not directly do something like run for office, but by spreading the knowledge to others, eventually someone within our ranks will do something...I know I'm trying to.

It'd be funny to ask random people if they know the truth about obama and mccain. Then ask if they know why the US government really wants to mess with iran and the rest of the middle east. And then explain to them the truth about israel.

They'd most likely think a person is a crazy neo nazi for talking about the jews like that.

A civil war? Over what?

What have ANY presidential candidate ever done for us? Besides maybe Washington. and yet we still elect people because we need them. Stop bieng a dumbass.
Washington and JFK were the only legit presidents in my mind. Part of me thinks Lincoln was, I mean i disagree with a lot of his believes and he was very Machivellian. But you have to respect the fact his passion and drive for uniting the country.

I'd say FDR did some good..his policies should have been abolished immediately after the Great Depression was over.
He was a fraud, and he kept us in the depression. Dont take my word for it, take the word of many economists including Milton Friedman

You're really disillusioned with this particular election so you're going to protest by posting a rant on totse and not voting.

I respect your passion but your means, well, they leave much to be desired.

civil war=NATO wins

Good God you people act like all CEO's are sitting atop their building headquarters tossing babies into blenders and making smoothies. Corporations are extremely greedy, yes, but grow up. They're out to make the most money possible not throw the world into the apocalypse.

Good God you people act like all CEO's are sitting atop their building headquarters tossing babies into blenders and making smoothies. Corporations are extremely greedy, yes, but grow up. They're out to make the most money possible not throw the world into the apocalypse.

Intentions count for very little when your voice has been drowned out of your own supposedly representative democracy by the corporate voice.

civil war=NATO wins

not if one brave American can deploy our nukes before they get here. fuck the world...or for you youngsters FTW!1!1!11

Ok dude (Vizulizer), its not like CEO's have this keen desire to destroy the World or anything, however, unintentionally they are and thats whats scary about the whole idea. The fact that most people who are up there assisting in pulling the strings don't even realize what they're doing is bad and its understandable. Most CEO's in these Companies commissioned to do these projects in third World countries don't even set foot on the soil, and the few that do usually stay at Embassies or very upper class estates brought to you by America so essentially their true view of the society and how they are greatly affecting it is gilded by the fact that they are making a substantial amount of money to do it. Also, the fact that on paper lending money out to third World Countries and building roads and plants and whatnot, sounds good on paper but in reality it only benefits a few and it was crafted that way by the few people who actually realize what the fuck they're doing. Most CEO's are truly blinded by the economic progress it's providing to America. In fact this isn't just exclusive to big CEO's but also with the entire society of America and other Western Countries. Most people have a very limited scope of the World and see it through the eyes of mainstream media. The media only tends to focus on one problem and that depends on what Country that happens to be the hot spot for companies at the time. Back in the 70's it was the panama canal. the 60's was Vietnam. Today it's Iraq. Most people don't even realize the problems crafted by us, unintentionally for most, includes a much bigger chunk of the World other than the Middle East. South America, the Middle East, Africa, as well as parts of Asia have tremendous issues that we inevitably created. We're just so cushioned with money and power that we really don't see the true World view. The fact is most of the World is in shit right now and everyone is either too lazy to actually figure out the root causes for it or they are benefiting from the system so they really don't care to fix it.

I used to think like you when someone ranted on about Corporations. It's not necessarily the idea of Corporations that's bad its the fact that we've integrated it into our own government and we are using corporate interests as our foreign policy. There must be a separation of Corporations and Government just as there should be a Separation of Church and State. I like buisnesses that provide me with goods and services which is why I love America, and I'm not saying death to the idea but we need to keep corporate interests limited to the private sector.

who gains from economic depressions and recessions?
The corporations and extremly rich.

Why? Because they can buy up stock and property for pennies (to them). We are already seeing corporations beginning to consolidate and merge amidst this turmoil.

Corporations do have something to gain IN THE LONG RUN from this. The Bill Gates and Warren Buffets, and many ppl with billions or hundreds of millions will always be rich they arent the ones getting crushed.

doesnt this belong in the conspiracy board?

He was a fraud, and he kept us in the depression. Dont take my word for it, take the word of many economists including Milton Friedman

Milton Friedman is a disgrace. He supported the deaths of millions of people around the world so long as new regimes made an attempt to apply his economic principles. Of course he is against FDR. His ideology is worse. He supported hoovers decision to not do anything in hopes that the invisible hand would prop everything back up. Everywhere his policies have been implemented in their purist forms like in South America, the result has been social retrogression. Milton Friedman gave personal lectures to Pinochet, the man responsible for the deaths of thousands of chileans.

who gains from economic depressions and recessions?
The corporations and extremly rich.

Why? Because they can buy up stock and property for pennies (to them). We are already seeing corporations beginning to consolidate and merge amidst this turmoil.

Corporations do have something to gain IN THE LONG RUN from this. The Bill Gates and Warren Buffets, and many ppl with billions or hundreds of millions will always be rich they arent the ones getting crushed.

If you understand this, are you for or against this? I'm thrown off by your support of friedman.

I'd never vote before, and could careless.

If McNerd wins, draft time for every guys in the gay U.S.A. :p

He was a fraud, and he kept us in the depression. Dont take my word for it, take the word of many economists including Milton Friedman

Barack Obama is a terrorist. But don't take my word for it. Take the word of many news outlets including Fox News.

I'd say FDR did some good..his policies should have been abolished immediately after the Great Depression was over.

World War two probably had a bigger effect on the Great Depression than the New Deal. I'm not saying FDR wasn't a good president, but WWII most likely played a bigger role. Personally, I believe that FDR tried getting us into WWII and I don't think it's a bad thing at all.

Also, why do people assume presidents don't do anything? Is it because we expect them to create world peace, eliminate world hunger, cure cancer, fix/strengthen the economy, build a strong military, get everyone a job, and get people to go to school, all in four years. Presidents don't have unlimited power and have limits on what they can accomplish. They really only have one or two years to accomplish anything. Our expectations are way to high, why do you think a presidents approvaly rating almost always finishes lower than when he started? I think it has more do to with our expectations than the presidents actual performance.

1st year, they can get stuff done.
2nd year, Congress is to worried about getting re-elected to really do anything.
3rd year, they can get some stuff done.
4th year, it's an election year, good luck getting stuff done.