Lots of totseans always hate on blacks and other ethnicities, my question is how often and to what level do you actually interact with our darker brothers and what is your opinion of them.

I work in the ghetto of my area and deal with them on a daily basis. As such I tend to see a problem in the newer generation of blacks. These are the ones getting into trouble with the law and others. On the other side is the older blacks who live on either side of the house I am doing construction on, these tend to be better spoken and actually interested in the things around them. I even feel a sense of disappointment almost, for instance the guy next door's son has been in and out of prison since he was 20.


Anyway whats your level of involvement and opinion?

Most asians bar the Japanese have this weird thing about them.
It isn't anything racial, rather cultural.

They have the most obnoxious habits. It's hard to describe the overriding theme, but basically they don't seem to recognize the value of showing a little consideration in situations where most people here would see it as being appropriate and expected to be reciprocal.

Example - used to live at a catered college - at meals asian international students always took ages to get their food from where it was served. They'd wait in line and everything very patiently, but once at the front they made no effort to be at all quick and took their sweet time. Noticeably.
Most other students would be quick - it makes sense after all - if everyone tries to get their food as quickly as possible consistently, everyone waits less.

They'd watch TV at 3am with the volume ip high, yet would be the first to make noise complaints when someone else was playing rock music in the early afternoon when they were 'studying'.

Letting loud mobile phones continue to ring for 2 minutes at times when it was really not appropriate, but they couldn't be bothered to answer/turn it off.
(A friend who went to china reckoned it was common for it to happen in cinemas)

It isn't one big thing, it's just lots and lots of little things all very, very consistently.

It isn't that I'm trying to say they're all horribly selfish, that isn't the point. It's that they don't seem to understand reciprocal courtesies. I guess in many countries such things might not exist outside of family/friends -I'm not sure.
It's really noticeable though. Maybe this doesn't resonate so much with people from the US, but it's really striking from my (Australian) perspective.

When I lived in England I interacted with our darker fellows on a daily basis, I've never been a racist person but I soon learned to avoid the stereotype "wannabe-gangstas", I blame it all on the lack of culture, education and glamourization of bad role models, not on race.

Race is irrelevant, you find those types in every ethnicity on earth, the problem lies with the lack of positive role models and today's cheap and idiotic mediatic sub-cultures.

However the vast number of bad elements within certain ethnicities that I've came in contact with was almost enough to drive me away from the rational path though, I have to admit I went quite close to oversimplify the issue and turn into an overly racist intollerant cunt.

That was when I used to live in quite a bad neighbourhood, but I know that the problem is mostly with teenagers, the elderly are usually just fine, and there are several good exceptions even among the youth.

Lately i have been moving around alot of different neighborhoods in queens. I work in one, hang out in another and live all the way across town.

Seems like in every different neighborhood despite color and or race there is always one ethnic group or nationality that is looked down upon by the rest of the groups.

Ive been working in a place called Ridgewood lately. Its a mostly eastern europeans like romainians, polish, Ukrainians and also some Italians.


Most people in Ridgewood get along with each other but those damn poles. They are social outcast. they are disliked by most other nationalities. They are so annoying. They never say please, thank you or excuse me. They talk to loud and spit everywhere. Sometimes they don't even bother to talk. They just point and make faces. shit they even sneak up on you sometimes when your not looking, you don't notice them standing right behind you till you turn around to see their ugly mugs. Fucking too dumb and stupid for their own good.

And its not just in that area. In jackson heights Mexicans are at the bottom of the food chain. Here in Richmond hills the Guyanese are hated.


Anyway Ive learned throughout my life that everywhere humans settle and different nationalities are mixed in their will always be Hate toward people who aren't exactly like us. I haven't figured out why, shit i don't even know if Im making anywhere right now. I just know it is a fact. It is human nature to be racist.

Most asians bar the Japanese have this weird thing about them.
It isn't anything racial, rather cultural.

They have the most obnoxious habits. It's hard to describe the overriding theme, but basically they don't seem to recognize the value of showing a little consideration in situations where most people here would see it as being appropriate and expected to be reciprocal.

Example - used to live at a catered college - at meals asian international students always took ages to get their food from where it was served. They'd wait in line and everything very patiently, but once at the front they made no effort to be at all quick and took their sweet time. Noticeably.
Most other students would be quick - it makes sense after all - if everyone tries to get their food as quickly as possible consistently, everyone waits less.

They'd watch TV at 3am with the volume ip high, yet would be the first to make noise complaints when someone else was playing rock music in the early afternoon when they were 'studying'.

Letting loud mobile phones continue to ring for 2 minutes at times when it was really not appropriate, but they couldn't be bothered to answer/turn it off.
(A friend who went to china reckoned it was common for it to happen in cinemas)

It isn't one big thing, it's just lots and lots of little things all very, very consistently.

It isn't that I'm trying to say they're all horribly selfish, that isn't the point. It's that they don't seem to understand reciprocal courtesies. I guess in many countries such things might not exist outside of family/friends -I'm not sure.
It's really noticeable though. Maybe this doesn't resonate so much with people from the US, but it's really striking from my (Australian) perspective.


I live in the San Francisco bay area and they are infested here. I know exactly what you mean, its a sort of mental superiority I think that has been pushed into them. They just refuse to show common courtesy in every day situations, even something so simple as blocking an intersection or stealing my right of way.

Everyone tends to be more-or-less the same where I live. My best friends consist of one asian, two blacks, and a white guy. They're all really good people and intellectual. Besides that, I've dated an asian girl and hung out with her friends. They all seemed cool, the only thing was their overt elitism. They'd always say things like "asians do this..." or "asians are expected to..." They just loved grouping themselves as a stereotype. I also grew up with a lot of black friends, they were mostly just outgoing and rambunctious, most being better than average in school. But being in the suburbs, you tend to meet people with similar culture and values, than if it were a mixture of suburban-rural-urban. Also had one Indian friend, he was really cool, though a bit nerdy. Worked with one Mexican guy, he was real funny and a great guy to work beside.

here in australia, there are very few blacks (and the ones that are here are mainly african refugees), jews and hispanics here, but there are a lot of asians, middle eastern (mainly from lebanon) and southern european (like greeks and macedonians). theres also the aborigines too, who are the natives

the southern europeans are probably the best integrated migrants, mainly because they share similar cultures, look similar to europeans and have been here a while (since the end of WW2). they arent like the guidos ive heard about in the US.

the asians and lebanese are up to their second generation here. most of them arrived in the 70's. the lebanese is what i would compare your stereotypical black americans to. a lot of them are uneducated, retarded criminals. like blacks, they seem to dress in their own style and have their own way of speaking (similar to that of ebonics)

the asian population is quite varied. there are those who have integrated pretty well, and there are 3 other stereotypes. you have the old, first generation asian migrants, mainly from south east asia who dont really integrate well. they refuse to learn decent english, but they do have jobs. you have the second generation asians which are gangster wannabes who like nothing better than driving some pimped up car, and you have your second generation asians who are your typical happy-go-lucky anime watching type asians.

as for the aborigines, they are somewhat of a rarity in urban centres. however, these guys mooch a lot off welfare and are probably the most uneducated, backwater ethnic group in australia.


theres also a growing number of indians in australia as well. i get along with them pretty well, as well as a lot of the asians and some lebanese people. but a lot of them usually stay together, so i dont really have an opportunity to get to know them. its kind of difficult not to work with an ethnic group in university, since there are many of them

I live in the San Francisco bay area and they are infested here. I know exactly what you mean, its a sort of mental superiority I think that has been pushed into them. They just refuse to show common courtesy in every day situations, even something so simple as blocking an intersection or stealing my right of way.

I'm not so sure it's that though.
It would make sense maybe in SF, but here I'm talking about fresh off the boat overseas students, strangers in a strange land. I really do think it's a cultural divide - people I know who have gone to China notice it there as well.

I'm not so sure it's that though.
It would make sense maybe in SF, but here I'm talking about fresh off the boat overseas students, strangers in a strange land. I really do think it's a cultural divide - people I know who have gone to China notice it there as well.

I feel like its mostly them looking out for themselves first and everybody else way after (if at all), whereas most other races here seem to be more open to help others. I am not saying like overt acts of kindness but the simple things like holding the door on the street car or an elevator. i also notice this more in older chinese

there aren't very many black people in my neighborhood, i had at most 3 or four black kids in my highschool classes, 99% were alright, and the ones that were assholes never bothered me. in my college classes there are more blacks, but none of them act in the stereotypical gangsta-nigga manner. come to think of it, i never really had any bad incidents with black people at all.

i also noticed that its mostly the blacks who's families have lived here for several generations that conform to the "nigger" stereotypes. the ones that immigrated recently, maybe one or two generations, generally strive for success and never cause any trouble.

"latinos" i never really encountered, so i dont really know what they are like.

where i work (grocery store) i noticed that the worst customers are the asians and east europeans. they are the ones most likely to be fucking up displays, taking things off the shelves and putting them where they dont belong, throwing garbage on the floor, taking boxes without asking, etc. they also seem to be least concerned about personal space.

i guess it really isnt their fault as they grew up in societies with different mores than us, but they still annoy the shit out of me.

where i work (grocery store) i noticed that the worst customers are the asians and east europeans. they are the ones most likely to be fucking up displays, taking things off the shelves and putting them where they dont belong, throwing garbage on the floor, taking boxes without asking, etc. they also seem to be least concerned about personal space.



You damn pretty city boys are really startin to piss me off with your shitty ass work ethics. Youve been chauffeured through life without a god damned care in the world when I was workin for a grocery store the manager could have took a big ol shit on the inventory and I'd still clean it up with no woes i aint afraid to earn my money. i like it. It aint called a job for nothing you arent supposed to just sit there in the back room and talk with your weak ass feminized friends and their loudmouth bitches get payed you little whiny ass motherfuckin faggot. What you need is a good ass beating.

W, I've never been a racist person but I soon learned to avoid the stereotype "wannabe-gangstas", I blame it all on the lack of culture, education and glamourization of bad role models, not on race.

Race is irrelevant, you find those types in every ethnicity on earth, the problem lies with the lack of positive role models and today's cheap and idiotic mediatic sub-cultures.



This^

I go to an innerish city public school, granted my school isn't bad at all, but I regularly come in contact with people from other, "warzone" schools. It seems that the "gangsta" mentality doesn't place any sort of premium on education. Standardized testing here is at a level where you would think everybody taking the test was retarded. What it really is is a lack of giving a shit, they just don't care.

I feel like its mostly them looking out for themselves first and everybody else way after (if at all), whereas most other races here seem to be more open to help others. I am not saying like overt acts of kindness but the simple things like holding the door on the street car or an elevator. i also notice this more in older chinese

Yeah pretty much - as you said, the habit of holding the door open isn't really an overt act of kindness since if everyone does it, everyone benefits.
Given your experiences are with older Chinese and mine are with younger (chinese) Malaysians who don't live here, it makes sense that it's a cultural thing.
I guess younger chinese in the bay area have grown up there so just act like everyone else.

Okay. cool. I'm not going mad and this phenomena really does exist. :D

Racism was something I gradually grew out of. Whilst I was about thirteen or so, I'd proclaim the inferiority of blacks, citing lower intelligence levels based upon dubious IQ tests and the disproportionate level of criminality amongst blacks. Over time, I've become of the opinion traits such as performance in IQ tests and criminality can be attributed to socioeconomic factors rather than the simple criterion of "skin colour".

I've lived with several mulattos and they're all different. There are a bunch of like minded selfish blacks who travel around doing socially reprehensible things but thats what white people do when they're poor as fuck too. Some blacks see it as necessary to change their situation and I don't fault them for it.

fuck there's many blacks and whites alike I dislike but its not a racial problem its a problem with them being dumb, and dumb can be corrected

I dislike chinese people but not on an individual level