when i asked this fellow what he thought communism/socialism was this is the tale i got "Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical ap" any thoughts

Hmm I could have sworn I've read this before.

when i asked this fellow what he thought communism/socialism was this is the tale i got "Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical ap" any thoughts

You are wrong. You were actually exploring a redistribution of wealth concept that was actually put into practice by Gerald Ford and expanded by that great Republican Conservative Icon,, Ronald Reagan. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to accept when a Republican does it. Any thoughts?

Sly way to prove your point. I think redistribution of Wealth is good but he's merely trying to artificially produce a Money Multiplier affect which is fine but what are his plans on inflation? Seriously what are they, I honestly haven't read much about that part of his plan only about the tax cuts on middle class citizens. Wont tax increases on the rich mean higher prices on goods and services since the rich essentially own the industries? I mean if they're getting taxed more to produce goods then they will automatically adjust the prices so they continue to make the same profits before. Also what are his plans for reducing corporate ties to the Government? Furthermore if he doesn't figure out a way to fix this inflationary problem, doesn't that mean prices are going to continue to rise? And I know he discussed his plan about increasing wages in compensation but wouldn't that only temporarily solve the problem? I mean if inflation continues to increase at the rate it's going then wouldn't that eventually bring it to hyper inflation to the point where the value of the dollar will fail?

Also his Foreign policies sound kind of similar to McCain's anyway. I mean I know he wants troops home but he never said he was going to bring everyone home. I think he mentioned something about keeping some in Iraq. But then what is his plan about Afghanistan and Iran? Not to suggest that he's going to start a war but because of his support for isreal, don't you think he might try and use that country to fight for us against Iran? And if he does that, even though we're not directly involved everyone, including Iran is going to know about our support for them. What kind of impact do you think that's going to have for our crippling economy if we continue to support another war? Also our image. Plus I think he mentioned increasing the troop size. I don't know about you but I can't think of many people who is going to join the military like its WWII just because Obama urges us...military build up sounds like it could be trouble. Plus, what are his views on government intervention? I know his policies he's suggesting are intended to benefit us but what about the real ID act? The Internet? Legalization of Marjiuana? What about the flaws in relation to the FDA? DEA misconduct?

Honestly I don't know if my points prove valid or not thats why I made them into questions because I'm asking you guys if you can clarify all of this for me to at least put me at ease.

If you knew shit about shit, you'd have paid him his ACTUAL worth, the kitchen hands their actual worth and the restaurant manager would have gotten significantly less. Your meal would have been much cheaper so you would have shortchanged the restaurant and gotten in trouble.

when i asked this fellow what he thought communism/socialism was this is the tale i got "Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical ap" any thoughts

Seriously? Does this piece of simpleton writing impress you enough that you had to paste it into a thread without even providing a supporting thought on it? You really think that's how the world works? I'm a democrat and I support taking all of Bill Gates' pay and giving it to a homeless guy. Yep the whole thing :rolleyes:

If you knew shit about shit, you'd have paid him his ACTUAL worth, the kitchen hands their actual worth and the restaurant manager would have gotten significantly less. Your meal would have been much cheaper so you would have shortchanged the restaurant and gotten in trouble.

Finally, someone with a basic understanding of communism. These forms of "communism" have actually been tried in private businesses and they have succeeded very well. Just imagine the motivation when you know your check is tied to the revenue the company can earn. In capitalism, you just have to keep your job. It doesn't matter to the workers if there is a good profit being made or a loss in the books, as long as the job is kept and the business doesn't go under.

Most of Obama's supporters take the redistribution of wealth thing as them gaining money. I think if they were put in the position of the small business owners who are going to get taxed to hell they would disagree.

Most of Obama's supporters take the redistribution of wealth thing as them gaining money. I think if they were put in the position of the small business owners who are going to get taxed to hell they would disagree.

Those small businesses are typically 1 or 2 people(s corporations), and they have to make over $250,000/year to qualify for his tax hike. Those people are making six figures each, they're not exactly gonna in the poorhouse because of this. This is the whole point of higher taxes for the wealthy, the idea being that they get more out of our society so they should have to put more in.

Those small businesses are typically 1 or 2 people(s corporations), and they have to make over $250,000/year to qualify for his tax hike. Those people are making six figures each, they're not exactly gonna in the poorhouse because of this. This is the whole point of higher taxes for the wealthy, the idea being that they get more out of our society so they should have to put more in.

Exactly, and this is them making $250k themselves, not the business. If they're making anymore than that, they are very, very well off. If they're making 260k/year, they should just take a pay cut to 240k/year, avoid the tax hike, and invest more back into their business.

Seriously? Does this piece of simpleton writing impress you enough that you had to paste it into a thread without even providing a supporting thought on it? You really think that's how the world works? I'm a democrat and I support taking all of Bill Gates' pay and giving it to a homeless guy. Yep the whole thing :rolleyes:
this is why you will always be a poor mexican immigrant that know one gives a shit about. :) Cheers!

Most of Obama's supporters take the redistribution of wealth thing as them gaining money. I think if they were put in the position of the small business owners who are going to get taxed to hell they would disagree.
did you see the look on his idiot supporters face at the victory speech when obama stated that "there will be sacrifices" they had a pure blank, dumbfounded look. these people want free money, and are lazy no goods.

how does this work? How did the homeless man DESERVE the money more than the waiter who worked for it? Maybe he NEEDED it more, but DESERVING and NEEDING are two different things. Also I'd like to say this, a tip is a gesture of courtesy, what would look more like Obama's plan is this, you get mugged, the mugger gives $10 to the bum as he walks off.
In all honesty though, don't you think that the homeless man was just going to spend the money on booze regardless of how he got it?
did you see the look on his idiot supports face at the victory speech when obama stated that "there will be sacrifices" they had a pure blank, dumbfounded look. these people want free money, and are lazy no goods.

I didn't see the speech, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

Those small businesses are typically 1 or 2 people(s corporations), and they have to make over $250,000/year to qualify for his tax hike. Those people are making six figures each, they're not exactly gonna in the poorhouse because of this. This is the whole point of higher taxes for the wealthy, the idea being that they get more out of our society so they should have to put more in.

They also create a lot of jobs and worked hard to get into that position. I think they give more to society than they get back out of it.

how does this work? How did the homeless man DESERVE the money more than the waiter who worked for it? Maybe he NEEDED it more, but DESERVING and NEEDING are two different things.

Thats capitalism. The problem is that people thinking they deserve or are entitled to things is destroying it.