This is an unresearched question and I'm just curious here.

All over the internet, people claim that there is an AIDS conspiracy. They say that it's used for population control, lining drug company pockets, what have a nigga.
So it's supposed to go like this: You get sick and don't know why, doctor tests to see if HIV antibodies are present, and then you have the option to go on the therapy. All of the pundits say that it's really the HIV drugs that kill the people, but what about the people who choose not to take the drugs and subsequently die aswell?

What do y'all niggas thank?

There is no HIV. I encourage all of my brethren of color to fuck each other with reckless abandon and to share drug needles with multiple partners.

There is no HIV. I encourage all of my brethren of color to fuck each other with reckless abandon and to share drug needles with multiple partners.

Don't.

Best not tell everyone about the Herpes Conspiracy too.

Oh, it's real alright, and it's doing a fine job of decimating Africa. The Africans can blame whitey all they want (no change there), but it's not as if they help themselves that much, e.g. the virgin rape cure (http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/april/virgin.htm) or the until-recently held stance of the S.A. governemnt that HIV/AIDS could be cured with garlic and beetroot. (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/10/13/sa.hiv.ap/)

And Tshabalala-Msimang the health minister who presided over this disastrous policy, has a medical PhD. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manto_Tshabalala-Msimang) Unbelievable - she's one of the educated ones.

As for it being made deliberately, i.e. genetically engineered to be more negroid-specific, the will to do it may have be present in some, but the ability to create it 30 years ago non existent.

As for it being made deliberately, i.e. genetically engineered to be more negroid-specific, the will to do it may have be present in some, but the ability to create it 30 years ago non existent.


false. The guy who discovered(he figured out what it was I should say) AIDS said it was manmade at Fort Detrick in the US. Aids wasnt even in Africa till we started vaccinating everyone for Polio and they all got AIDS. And the first documented cases were gay men in the US who had been given hepatitus-C by the government in medical tests (they agreed to it and they were uninformed what hepatitus was).

false. The guy who discovered(he figured out what it was I should say) AIDS said it was manmade at Fort Detrick in the US.

And the evidence that lead him to this conclusion was what, exactly?

Aids wasnt even in Africa till we started vaccinating everyone for Polio and they all got AIDS.

That suggests the polio vaccines were contaminated, not that the AIDS virus was genetically engineered (in the 1950's, lol) with the intent to kill Africans, or even that anyone knew about it.

And the first documented cases were gay men in the US who had been given hepatitus-C by the government in medical tests (they agreed to it and they were uninformed what hepatitus was).

Source?

http://www.rense.com/general45/cant.htm

That suggests the polio vaccines were contaminated, not that the AIDS virus was genetically engineered (in the 1950's, lol) with the intent to kill Africans, or even that anyone knew about it.
I also forgot to mention that after Smallpox vaccines in the 80's everyone started getting aids. But the problem I have is why the big coverup, the UN and the US and whatever NGO's administer this stuff should come clean. Yes we can understand why they wouldnt. But then again theres just been to many steady incidents for it to be an accident. Also keep in mind that the UN that administers all these vaccines has quietly been writing and warning about the dangers of overpopulation and how to stop it. This is the same UN praising China's One Child policy. Add in the mix the NGO's that are all funded by the Rockefellers, Carnegies, Bill Gates, etc. All who have been quietly pushing depopulation schemes and using the third world as guinea pigs. These ppl fund organizations like Planned Parenthood which was started by Eugenists. Where do you think all these Eugenists went when it fell out of favor in the mainstream?

Source?
Read the link I sent

Could virus-contaminated hepatitis vaccines lie at the root of AIDS? In the early 1970s the hepatitis B vaccine was developed in chimpanzees. To this day, some people are fearful about taking the hepatitis B vaccine because of its original connection to gay men and AIDS.

Was HIV (and the KS herpes virus and a new mycoplasma) introduced into gays during these vaccine trials when thousands of homosexuals were injected in Manhattan beginning in 1978, and in the West Coast cities in 1980-1981?

As mentioned, the first gay AIDS cases erupted in Manhattan a few months after the gay experiment began at the NY Blood Center. When a blood test for HIV became available in the mid-1980s, the Center's stored gay blood specimens were reexamined. Most astonishing is the statistically significant fact that 20% of the gay men who volunteered for the hepatitis B experiment in New York were discovered to be HIV-positive in 1980 (a year before the AIDS epidemic became "official" in 1981). This signifies that Manhattan gays in 1980 had the highest incidence of HIV anywhere in the world, including Africa, the supposed birthplace of HIV and AIDS. And epidemic cases in Africa did not appear until 1982.

Although denied by the AIDS establishment, a few researchers are convinced that these vaccine experiments served as the vehicle through which HIV was introduced into the gay population. My own extensive research into the hepatitis B experiments is presented in AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origin of the AIDS Epidemic [1988], and in Queer Blood: The Secret AIDS Genocide Plot [1993]. These books also debunk the preposterous "Patient Zero" story of 1987, which claimed a promiscuous gay Canadian airline steward brought AIDS to America. The highly implausible story was sensationalized in the media and served to further obscure the origin of AIDS in America and blame gay promiscuity. Even Montagnier is doubtful that the U.S. epidemic could have developed from a single patient.


On June 6, 1969 (the same month as the Stonewall Uprising launched the Gay Rights Movement) Pentagon spokesman Dr. Donald MacArthur testified before Congress:

"Within the next five to ten years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could differ in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organism. Most important of these is that it might be refractory to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore the feasibility of this could be completed in approximately five years at a total cost of $10 million." (HB 15090, pg 129)

And what happened 10 years after this testimony? The govn't tests that spread HIV/AIDS into the gay population

he earliest cases of AIDS are stored blood samples from New York City in January 1979 (two months after the beginning of the hepatitis-B vaccine trials upon gay men from Manhattan.

1984 tests revealed that 6.6% of the 1979 blood-samples were found to be HIV-positive. By 1985, 66% of the men in the hepatitis-B trial tested HIV-positive.)
n fact, the AIDS epidemic in Africa did not begin until the autumn of 1982 at the earliest.
http://netowne.com/conspiracy/konformist/manmadeaids.htm

William Campbell Douglas, M.D., National Health Federation's 1985 Doctor of the Year, published AIDS:The End of Civilization, 1989, detailing the development of HIV by scientists working at the army's biowarfare lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
That it is a coincidence that Fort Detrick, which is where Col. Huxsoll's biological research is being conducted, is also the site of AIDS research....
The New York Times reported that "Fort Detrick was the Army's biological warfare development center until 1969 and is now the site of some AIDS-related research.

I'll quote Dead Prez: "It's not coincidence its been to many steady incidents"

Best not tell everyone about the Herpes Conspiracy too.

And the Mental-Disability conspiracy. Schizophrenia, Autism, Down-Syndrome and Depression are all just lies to sell prescription drugs.

ALSO: Dr. Karl (Of Australia's Triple J radio program (I listen to the podcast)) says that the government did NOT create AIDS or HIV, as the first traces of the virus have been around longer (many, many years longer) than our ability to engineer viruses.

I'll quote Dead Prez: "It's not coincidence its been to many steady incidents"

the whole post was epic until this line.

ALSO: Dr. Karl (Of Australia's Triple J radio program (I listen to the podcast)) says that the government did NOT create AIDS or HIV, as the first traces of the virus have been around longer (many, many years longer) than our ability to engineer viruses.

Ya ive read stuff saying that their was a weaker version of the HIV virus around, plus the precursors (simonian virus or something) and we just kinda super pimped the virus. Might not be what your talking about, i havent heard the podcast...

the whole post was epic until this line.

I could just memory hole it... but im not that much of a douchebag

Ya ive read stuff saying that their was a weaker version of the HIV virus around, plus the precursors (simonian virus or something) and we just kinda super pimped the virus.

Who pimped it? West Coast Customs?

false. The guy who discovered(he figured out what it was I should say) AIDS said it was manmade at Fort Detrick in the US. Aids wasnt even in Africa till we started vaccinating everyone for Polio and they all got AIDS. And the first documented cases were gay men in the US who had been given hepatitus-C by the government in medical tests (they agreed to it and they were uninformed what hepatitus was).

You know, that's funny. I know Luc Montagnier and he never told me any such thing.

Edit-oh, and in case you try and pull Gallo on me, here....

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14881-comment-was-robert-gallo-robbed-of-the-nobel-prize.html

Luc Montagnier discovered the virus first. Take it from someone's who's done work for the NIH. Notice how I included a credible source and not some crappy "I made it in my mother's garage" freewebs one.


And here:
"Other scientists have weighed into the debate too. Stanley Prusiner of the University of California at San Francisco, and himself a Nobel prize winner for the discovery of prion diseases, wrote in Science that "in retrospect, there is no doubt that Montagnier and his colleagues were the first to report the discovery of the virus that we now call human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV"."

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14881-comment-was-robert-gallo-robbed-of-the-nobel-prize.html

You know, that's funny. I know Luc Montagnier and he never told me any such thing.

Could you get him to autograph a vial of HIV infected blood for me? PLEASE???

Could you get him to autograph a vial of HIV infected blood for me? PLEASE???

I don't have any HIV-infected blood. I know for a fact I could get an autographed vial of SIV infected blood, which is Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, and that "sima" whatever thing the poster I responded to probably didn't understand on a biochemical level. Probably couldn't tell me the difference between a retrovirus and lentivirus, which is a trick question.

But that's not what I do anymore.

Edit- why would you want it, anyway? I know I wouldn't technically be allowed to remove it from the building without some kind of need to transfer it. Not that anyone would really stop me or anything. Practically all .gov and .mil security sucks, to be honest.

Oh, and just because I could, doesn't mean I would. I wouldn't.

I don't have any HIV-infected blood. I know for a fact I could get an autographed vial of SIV infected blood, which is Simian Immunodeficiency Virus, and that "sima" whatever thing the poster I responded to probably didn't understand on a biochemical level. Probably couldn't tell me the difference between a retrovirus and lentivirus, which is a trick question.

But that's not what I do anymore.

Edit- why would you want it, anyway? I know I wouldn't technically be allowed to remove it from the building without some kind of need to transfer it. Not that anyone would really stop me or anything. Practically all .gov and .mil security sucks, to be honest.

Oh, and just because I could, doesn't mean I would. I wouldn't.

You should get me some SIV. I want it 'cause it'd be awesome to say I have it.

Would you at least get him to autograph a vial? Then I canl find someone with HIV that'll let me have some of their blood.

Would you at least get him to autograph a vial? Then I canl find someone with HIV that'll let me have some of their blood.

This I could actually do without any problems. Of course, I could also ebay it.... ;-). Whereabouts are you located?

This I could actually do without any problems. Of course, I could also ebay it.... ;-). Whereabouts are you located?

I think selling it on ebay is a bad idea, just send it to me. I'll pay for shipping and stuff. I live in Fargo, ND.

I don't know if the AIDS conspiracy is real or not, but I don't doubt governments of the world were trying to manufacture viruses well before they knew how, and when they discovered it, if they discovered it before a public research lab, they wouldn't have publicised it or the details on how to do it.

They can clone animals now, and you can buy fish tank fish that are genetically modified to glow in the dark.

I would not be surprised if deep in some lab somewhere, where the scientists are refused to ever see the light off day again for agreeing to partake in the projects, human genetic experiments and gene splicing is taking place.

As for the "negroe specific" brand, I am not going to say "that's impossible", BUT while there are some slight genetic differences, I doubt they are anything exploitable.

Also, to my understanding, gene slicing needs to come from somewhere, and it is simply implanted into another organism. For example, those glowing fish tank fish (try saying that when drunk!) , the gene to glow came from somewhere else. So, the properties of HIV have to exist naturally anyway, the best scientists could have done is "souped it up" and put it into a bacteria that affects humans.

idiotic bullshit

you've single-handedly turned me from aids denialism