Today, I realised just how incredibly dangerous driving under the speed limit is.

I mean, there are certain times, say in inclement weather, when it is prudent to slow down, but when the road is dry, the weather is good, and it is nice and bright, people who drive under the speed limit should be shot.

A couple of examples of this happened to me today.

The road to my house is incredibly windy, needing a reasonable amount of concentration, as it is also fairly narrow. So as I was driving home today, I got stuck behind some knobhead doing 15mph, which meant I had to concentrate more on the back of his car to make sure I went slow enough not to hit it, than on my surroundings, as all the school kids were heading for their dinner and crossing the road at seemingly suicidal moments. Fortunately, I didn't end up hitting any of them.

Also, driving slowly seriously affects the flow of traffic.

Imagine if you will, driving up the motorway, somewhere in the region between 70 and 85mph. Now imagine a car pulls into your lane doing 40mph, whilst there is a car going faster than you in the lane next to you in the process of overtaking, thus presenting you with no choice but to jam on the brakes, the car behind you being forced to do the same, and so on and so forth, creating potential for an accident.

Also, driving up a sliproad yourself, steadily accelerating upto motorway speeds, checking your wingmirror and blind spot to evaluate the traffic already on the motorway and make a smooth merging manoeuvre, when BAM! A car pootling along at 40mph on the sliproad in front of you.

In my opinion, if you aren't confident to drive at the proper speed limit, with everyone else, you should have your licence revoked.

Who is with me?! :mad:

Also, driving up a sliproad yourself, steadily accelerating upto motorway speeds, checking your wingmirror and blind spot to evaluate the traffic already on the motorway and make a smooth merging manoeuvre, when BAM! A car pootling along at 40mph on the sliproad in front of you.

That annoys the hell out of me, it really does. Gets worse when they start braking instead of accelerating, and worse still when they're in a powerful enough car to just pop into the 70mph traffic without accelerating, leaving me in whatever horrendously underpowered banger to hit the rev counter trying to make up for their stupid mistake

Whats the most annoying is people who stay in right turn or left turn only lanes and have to merge THE LAST POSSIBLE SECOND because they needed those extra ten feet.

Whats the most annoying is people who stay in right turn or left turn only lanes and have to merge THE LAST POSSIBLE SECOND because they needed those extra ten feet.

Even more annoying is when people use the turning lane to pass you and/or other motorists.

Ride a motorcycle in congestion then tell me how bad car drivers are, ahah. The best are the ones who open car doors on you. Or maybe the ones who deliberately swerve into gravel to spray you. Or maybe the ones who look at you, think for a minute, then decide to pull over onto you anyway, regardless of if you have any room.

The majority of car drivers are fuckwits who think they are totally untouchable because they are in their little climate-controlled cube. It's fairly funny when you follow them to the next set of lights and drag them through their fucking window. That big set of balls quickly disappears and suddenly they're so sorry because they just didn't happen to see you, on your 110db motorcycle.

Wankers.

I was riding my bike through town in the summer. I have really bright triple LEDs on both ends that are set to flash, so if you're looking in remotely the right direction you'll see me coming.

So a woman in her red BMW pulls up to the junction AND LOOKS ME STRAIGHT IN THE EYE, pauses for a second, then pulls out. Of course I go smack into her wing and over her bonnet. I shouted at her so hard she just drove off and I didn't get her reg number. Grargh.

I had an experience with the worst driver ever a month or so ago during my thanksgiving travels.

I was going along a relaxed stretch of 90km/h highway in my moms b4000 doing 100-110 when some bitch in a yukon came up and started tailgating me. I figured if I just went a little quicker around the corners(I was already doing a fair bit over the 'recommended' speed, in town i like to double it;)) she'd back off, but she was blond, so no go...

When we got to a broken yellow line with no traffic, I thought sweet, now this bitch can fuck off. I slowed right the fuck down to 70, but the cunt back just got closer to my bumper... I proceeded to be a general ass, leaving her behind in corners, and slowing right down on straits and shit, but avoided shit like gearing down without brake lights because I really didn't want her to hit me.

We got to a passing lane, and I let her pass, and thought I was done with her:rolleyes:

A little while later I see she's stuck right on the bumper of a fucking semi. Right in the middle, she can't see shit, and he sure as fuck can't see her. There was too much traffic for the next couple broken lines, so I got to cruise along at 80 for a little while. Come the next broken line I can't see anyone coming, but there's a fairly sharp bend at the end. I think I was going ~115(I wasn't watching the speedo;)) about halfway passed the semi when a minivan came around the corner and showed no signs of slowing down. There could have been 200 meters left between us when I got back in my lane, but my brother was screaming while I had a laugh after.If that bitch wasn't there I probably would've been able to fall back in line, but who knows what the fuck she'd have done...

Wow, that's way to much typing for a shitty story... I probably fucked some shit up, and used tonnes of ellipses...;)

Whats the most annoying is people who stay in right turn or left turn only lanes and have to merge THE LAST POSSIBLE SECOND because they needed those extra ten feet.

Yea. When I turn onto the main road I always merge left even though I have a couple miles to go before my turn to work. It makes no fucking sense to pussyfoot around until you are right at the turn and then cut across traffic.

Even worse is when people pass you really fast only to turn 500 feet ahead. If there is one thing that makes me want to shoot someone, that's it.

I was riding my bike through town in the summer. I have really bright triple LEDs on both ends that are set to flash, so if you're looking in remotely the right direction you'll see me coming.

So a woman in her red BMW pulls up to the junction AND LOOKS ME STRAIGHT IN THE EYE, pauses for a second, then pulls out. Of course I go smack into her wing and over her bonnet. I shouted at her so hard she just drove off and I didn't get her reg number. Grargh.

I take that back. If I were a biker THIS would be something I'd shoot someone for. I feel for you, man.

Bleh, I'd feel for her car. I put a pretty big dent in the wing and my bike was unharmed. I was on my big chunky Barracuda which has 28c section tyres so they're fairly strong, and it has steel forks. If I was on my Cross with it's skinny 24 spoked wheels, then it could well have been a new wheel (ooh, £75?), possibly new forks (add £150) or possibly a new frame (add another £200). Probably would have been cheaper to buy a new bike.

What really annoys me is people sitting pointlessly in the middle lane of a motorway at 65, forcing me to swing across three lanes just to get past them. If there's enough room to undertake, then you shouldn't be in that lane, end of.

Try having two cars side by side doing 45 on the only main dual carriage way road that goes around my town.

Used to drive me fucking nuts on the way to my old college.


Or even worse some daft cow in a tank or caravan going like 40mph down great country roads that I easily can ride or drive at more than double that.

Around here, the interstate has a posted 45mph minimum speed. It's bullshit, anyone doing 45 in a 70 is going to get mowed down.

It's a pain in the ass for someone like me, who can't practically go faster than 100 KPH. In America we would sit in the far right lane at 55 MPH and obviously everyone was screaming past. What gets on my nerves are the idiots that drive up and sit right on my ass for several KMs, apparently waiting for us to speed up, even though they have another lane wide open to them to their left.

Fuck sakes, people, just go around! I'm not going any faster. If I had a vehicle capable of higher speeds I would go faster, but driving at 120 KPH means revving the van at around 4500 RPM or so. Not healthy for the van and not exactly easy on the gas.

It's a pain in the ass for someone like me, who can't practically go faster than 100 KPH. In America we would sit in the far right lane at 55 MPH and obviously everyone was screaming past. What gets on my nerves are the idiots that drive up and sit right on my ass for several KMs, apparently waiting for us to speed up, even though they have another lane wide open to them to their left.

Fuck sakes, people, just go around! I'm not going any faster. If I had a vehicle capable of higher speeds I would go faster, but driving at 120 KPH means revving the van at around 4500 RPM or so. Not healthy for the van and not exactly easy on the gas.

Admittedly, that's pretty annoying. I drive at a steady 55-60 in a 60 mph zone simply because my car is geared to get shitty mileage any higher than that. Actually, my car gets shitty mileage period, it's just worse when you get above 60 or so. It's silly how people won't just...go around.

Admittedly, that's pretty annoying. I drive at a steady 55-60 in a 60 mph zone simply because my car is geared to get shitty mileage any higher than that. Actually, my car gets shitty mileage period, it's just worse when you get above 60 or so. It's silly how people won't just...go around.

No shit! It's not like we're going too slow - as a general rule I always try to at least keep close to the limit. If its 110 KPH, I do 100. If it's 75 MPH, I keep near 60.

It's called 'rotating your head to the left, lightly pressing down on the left hand stalk, lightly turning the steering wheel to the left, mild counter-steer'. As a long sentance I know it appears to be difficult, but in practice it's surprisingly easy. I used to do it all the time.

Pfft, why go through all that when you can just force someone else to drive like you do?

Haha yeh. I sometimes end up following people from my house to the hwy. They'll sit either just below or barely on the speed limit the whole way. Second they get to the hwy, they speed up to 100-110(it's a 70 zone). WTF???

I remember cruising along at 110, then this piece of shit car pulls up next to me, looks me in the eye then floors it. Dumb woman driver with her kid....

If i was in the mood she wouldn't stood a chance(my step dad's v6 commodore vs a 4 cyl ford thingy)

Wankers.

They're just a whole bunch of wankers out to kill us.

Haha yeh. I sometimes end up following people from my house to the hwy. They'll sit either just below or barely on the speed limit the whole way. Second they get to the hwy, they speed up to 100-110(it's a 70 zone). WTF???

I remember cruising along at 110, then this piece of shit car pulls up next to me, looks me in the eye then floors it. Dumb woman driver with her kid....

If i was in the mood she wouldn't stood a chance(my step dad's v6 commodore vs a 4 cyl ford thingy)

Seriously, what the fuck is it with the soccer moms who think they need to be faster than everyone else in their shitty minivans?

I give them a facefull of non-emissions-compliant exhaust whenever I get the chance.

Seriously, what the fuck is it with the soccer moms who think they need to be faster than everyone else in their shitty minivans?

I give them a facefull of non-emissions-compliant exhaust whenever I get the chance.

Or the ones who drive very fucking slowly to 'protect' their kids. Soccer moms just fail in general.

I want to get a bumper sticker that say's "I protect kids by killing their parents"

Or the ones who drive very fucking slowly to 'protect' their kids. Soccer moms just fail in general.

HAH! You guys want to see some real Soccer mom dumbassery? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=As3bLENGHPO0QoOn94EI3Xvty6IX;_ylv=3?qid =20081120104714AAkuQz0&show=7#profile-info-DKnTDERnaa
Here, look at the response by 'Noticeable Jewels'.

Yes, more idiots on Yahoo Answers. When will it ever stop?

driving too slow is just as dangerous as speeding. it puts other people in a tight spot and makes overtaking harder if the other lanes are flowing normally.

heres a situation we are all familar with. the road is busy with one sad fucker going twenty under the limit. you end up behind them and go to overtake. if the traffic is constant and the gaps are small, it becomes too dangerous to pull out with the speed difference.

of course, most of us have no problem standing on the accelerator and doing it as safely as it can, but many people either can't speed up fast enough or don't understand the danger. the tendency for people to merge at half the speed of the traffic (no matter what it is) is something that pisses me off no end. you need to match the speed of the traffic, and if they are going ten over and you don't want to speed, then you can slow down once its safe.

i don't mind people who speed within reason. they are usually the ones who are watching the road and aware of what is going on around them (if only to look for cops). its the people who sit in thier own little world and cruise down the road at thier own pace, completely oblivious to the hazard and annoyance they are causing other drivers that shit me off.

HAH! You guys want to see some real Soccer mom dumbassery? http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=As3bLENGHPO0QoOn94EI3Xvty6IX;_ylv=3?qid =20081120104714AAkuQz0&show=7#profile-info-DKnTDERnaa
Here, look at the response by 'Noticeable Jewels'.

Yes, more idiots on Yahoo Answers. When will it ever stop?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjtnqlWcuHqnYfwmUjAfvmk.xgt.;_ylv=3?qid =20081121080948AAvu1xQ

And I thought we get off topic

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Here, look at the response by 'Noticeable Jewels'.

Yes, more idiots on Yahoo Answers. When will it ever stop?

Good lord. I've heard and seen some incredibly stupid people in my day, but I'm glad someone who knew his shit came to the resque (sic??).

Slowing down to 0 km/h or 0 mph is very dangerous. It often kills. Going fast on the other hand has never killed anyone.

Note:

Conservation of momentum says that the change in speed of the heavier car is going to be less than the change in speed of the smaller car.

The total time that the change in speed takes place in depends on the crumple zones of both cars.

Though, this only matters if you experience death by deceleration. It does not matter if due to the cars structure, you are impaled on something.

Here in the US the posted speedlimit is for perfect driving conditions. If the driving conditions are bad you are not supposed to go the speed limit you are supposed to drive 5-20mph under the postred limit depending on what the bad road conditions are. Driving over the speed limit especially wiht bad road/driving conditions is what is unsafe. you can actually get a speeding ticket for going the speed limit when road /driving conditions are bad.
No one really follows that rule though. But it is all of the people not following the rule and speeding making the roads unsafe. there is nothing wrong with not speeding if you are in the slow(right) lane on the highway/motor way.

I dont care how you guys try to justify it slow speed is safer than high speed.

^ it appears that you only read the title and not the thread itself.

In Australia I was told our speed limits were set by a 1960s HD holden wagon (basically very old shit at everything car). I've found on any given road I can safely do about double the limit without too much issue except for a few inconsistent corners which are labeled as a low speed and they really mean it. Basically it means the limits are set for the lowest common denominator of shit car and shit driver so that stupid people in deathtraps have the least chance of killing themselves.

ilovechronic-Our northern territory's open speed limits on some highways were changed to 130km/h max, and the death toll rose. How do you explain that?

ilovechronic-Our northern territory's open speed limits on some highways were changed to 130km/h max, and the death toll rose. How do you explain that?

Do you mean the northern territories death toll? or the highway death toll went up? Was the speed limit increased or decreased you said "130lm/h max" but you did not specify is it was increase or decreased?

There are most likely MANY more factors than just the speed limit being Im asuming you meant decreased.
The road ways here atlest ARE NOT designed for excessive speeds. It is not a raceway it is a highway, which means it is for higher speeds up to a point. Going anything over the posted limit is going to increase the risk not decrease the risk. That is completely illogical to say the excessive speeds are safer, sorry.

And let me make this more clear. i understand if the flow is going a certain speed and one car is going half that speed could make it unsafe but that is why it is encouraged that slow driving cars stay in the slow lane and fast driving cars stay in the fast lane.

Do you mean the northern territories death toll? or the highway death toll went up? Was the speed limit increased or decreased you said "130lm/h max" but you did not specify is it was increase or decreased?

There are most likely MANY more factors than just the speed limit being Im asuming you meant decreased.
The road ways here atlest ARE NOT designed for excessive speeds. It is not a raceway it is a highway, which means it is for higher speeds up to a point. Going anything over the posted limit is going to increase the risk not decrease the risk. That is completely illogical to say the excessive speeds are safer, sorry.

And let me make this more clear. i understand if the flow is going a certain speed and one car is going half that speed could make it unsafe but that is why it is encouraged that slow driving cars stay in the slow lane and fast driving cars stay in the fast lane.

'Open speed limit' means they were unlimited. Many supercar makers used to test out here. The limit was decreased from infinity to 130, and the death toll rose. Thats the highway death toll. Only one variable was changed, so don't give me that crap of 'oh there's many other factors...' because only one thing changed.
Governments need to realise that cars are now capable of far beyond what they used to be, and they need to change the speed limits to suit. The argument that 'its the speed limit, if you go above it it increases the risk' is retarded, as if the limit was 130,150 etc to begin with you'd have no problem with someone going that quick. As I said, speed limits are for the lowest common denominator idiots who couldn't care less about cars.
Also the problem with encouraging slow people to be in the 'slow lane' is shitloads of them don't follow it, because they don't care about other people.

Also the problem with encouraging slow people to be in the 'slow lane' is shitloads of them don't follow it, because they don't care about other people.If people would actually pay attention to their sorroundings when they are driving there would not be as much of a problem. if all these people that didnt pay attention were not on the road it would be much safer and there would be alot less cars on the road. i would say from experience atleast 5 out of 10 cars around me when i am driving have people that are imporperly operating or "dont care." some are just plain uncourteous.
Once again there are probably many othe rfactors that contribute to the higher death rate on the said highways. it is not bullcrap at all. i seriously doubt that the set speed limit is the only contributing factor to the increased death toll. Maybe there are more cars on the road now from increased pop. Maybe it weather condtions were worse than before. That just does not make since that excessive speeds are safer than nonexcessive. Please explain why you would think it would be safe to drive at high speeds?
The cars are harder to control, easier to lose control in a blowout, fatalities are MORE likely at high speeds than low speeds are just a few things that would lead me to believe i am safer staying under 75mph.

the cars may be capable of being far beyond what the speed limits are but the MOST DRIVERS ARE NOT.

That's exactly what I was saying though. Sort of.

When I'm driving along at my usual motorway cruising speed of 85mph, and all the other cars around me are doing 85mph, I am always aware of what is going on around me, how much of a gap is between me and the car in front, that there is the inevitible BMW flying up the outside lane, there is a lorry driving up the sliproad, etc.

However, when there is a slow car on the motorway, I'm concentrating more on that car than my surroundings because he is creating more of an obstacle for me doing 60mph when me and everyone else is going 85mph. As long as everybody is going fast, it's OK. It's just the one idiot who sits there and goes "The cars are harder to control, easier to lose control in a blowout, fatalities are MORE likely at high speeds than low speeds are just a few things that would lead me to believe i am safer staying under 75mph," that causes trouble for everyone else.

Also, look at Germany's autobahns. I'm pretty sure, given how gay the EU is, they wouldn't be allowed unrestricted motorways if it was dangerous. German drivers are taught immense road discipline during their lessons.

Also, Autralia's speed limits were set by a crappy old Holden. Our's were set by an AC Cobra doing 166mph :D

I never speed.

Reason:

Our cops are not particularly forgiving.

"The cars are harder to control, easier to lose control in a blowout, fatalities are MORE likely at high speeds than low speeds are just a few things that would lead me to believe i am safer staying under 75mph," that causes trouble for everyone else.



That is not an opinion those are facts dude. You are telling me if you go 100 mph and have a blow out you have a better of keeping control of your vehicle? You are telling me if you are going 100mph into another car or wall you have a better chance of living?
for the most part the speed limit is 55-65 on the free way in my city(phoenix). So staying under 75 mph is what i do to avoid a ticket. Also we have speed cameras installed on almost ALL the free ways here in arizona now and also in some city streets in scottsdale now. There are also mobile speed vans around the city that are moved all over the place. So using the free way like a race track is not really an option. going 15 miles over the speed limit is criminal speeding here and can result in being taken to jail right when you are pulled over. Even if the flow of trffic is 75 mph that does not mean you wont get pulled over if you are going 75mph here. An officer can still get your for speeding.
And dude i dont drive like a grand pa or something I was just pointing out some of the dangers that go with excessive speed. if you dont think about the risks involved and take precautions then you sir/mam, are the idiot. I dont drive 45mph in a 55mph limit. i will maybe go upt to 65 in a 55. But i am not going to jail because some dick like you is trying to get there destination by speeding because YOU did not leave at the proper time to get to your destination.
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Also, look at Germany's autobahns. I'm pretty sure, given how gay the EU is, they wouldn't be allowed unrestricted motorways if it was dangerous. German drivers are taught immense road discipline during their lessons.

Also, Autralia's speed limits were set by a crappy old Holden. Our's were set by an AC Cobra doing 166mph :D

Yes i have looked at germanies autobahns and they HAVE SPEED LIMITS ON ALOT OF THE AUTOBAHN also. Only certain parts have no speed limit.

If people would actually pay attention to their sorroundings when they are driving there would not be as much of a problem. if all these people that didnt pay attention were not on the road it would be much safer and there would be alot less cars on the road. i would say from experience atleast 5 out of 10 cars around me when i am driving have people that are imporperly operating or "dont care." some are just plain uncourteous.
Once again there are probably many othe rfactors that contribute to the higher death rate on the said highways. it is not bullcrap at all. i seriously doubt that the set speed limit is the only contributing factor to the increased death toll. Maybe there are more cars on the road now from increased pop. Maybe it weather condtions were worse than before. That just does not make since that excessive speeds are safer than nonexcessive. Please explain why you would think it would be safe to drive at high speeds?
The cars are harder to control, easier to lose control in a blowout, fatalities are MORE likely at high speeds than low speeds are just a few things that would lead me to believe i am safer staying under 75mph.

the cars may be capable of being far beyond what the speed limits are but the MOST DRIVERS ARE NOT.

Lol increased population in the northern territory, so instead of 1 car in a 100km stretch of road, there's 2. Weather conditions? Unless you mean it changing from 'very hot and dry' to 'extremely hot and dry', then no, they aren't a factor. The reason its safer to do over 130 is because driving for hundreds of kms in a straight line with nothing to look at is because your concentration is actually needed, whereas at 130 you're likely to fall asleep and punt yourself into the only tree for 1000km.
I'd argue that cars aren't harder to control at higher speeds, although I only have mine to argue from, but its not like they suddenly become twitchy undrivable animals, unless something's wrong.
If your car has a blowout, that's your own fault from not getting proper speed rated tyres, having the wrong weight rated tyres or not watching the wear on them before doing high speed driving.
I'm not saying we should all do 200mph to the shops, just that todays speed limits are bullshit. And I agree with you, most drivers aren't capable of driving their car close where they attempt. Which is why we need much more stringent licensing so idiots who wouldn't know oversteer from their arse have to take public transport, and people who know how to drive can actually move at a decent speed.

That's just what I was going to say actually. My car is actually very planted at speeds over 100mph, and the only reason people would have a blow out are if they fail to maintain correct tyre pressures, or get the wrong speed rated tyres, or drive over something sharp and pointy, in which case, they should have been paying attention.

And the thing I'm arguing is that slower cars affect a flow of traffic, not that speeding is the way to drive everywhere for no reason. I'll barely top 30mph in residential streets.

Assuming everybody didn't leave at the proper time to get to their destination and everybody is doing 75mph apart from the one dude doing 60mph. That is what I'm saying is dangerous and affects traffic flow and is more likely to cause an accident.

That's just what I was going to say actually. My car is actually very planted at speeds over 100mph, and the only reason people would have a blow out are if they fail to maintain correct tyre pressures, or get the wrong speed rated tyres, or drive over something sharp and pointy, in which case, they should have been paying attention.

And the thing I'm arguing is that slower cars affect a flow of traffic, not that speeding is the way to drive everywhere for no reason. I'll barely top 30mph in residential streets.

Assuming everybody didn't leave at the proper time to get to their destination and everybody is doing 75mph apart from the one dude doing 60mph. That is what I'm saying is dangerous and affects traffic flow and is more likely to cause an accident.

i was just giving examples of other factors I really have no idea how it is in the northern territory but it is not the same as Arizona. For example going throug the mountains up north, you wouldnt want to b speeding up there, I have seen people try to hit some of those windy turns way over what the suggested posted speed is and they have trouble controling the vehicle through the turn and end up jerking the wheel.

And if you are sleep deprivated your speed is not going to make much of a difference, if you are tired enough you will nod out behind the wheel and you have a better chance of living if your going 50mph opposed to 85mph when you crash into something.
also factory defects can cause blowouts cant they? Excessive heat can cause blow outs cant it? So if you are driving on a hot road wouldnt your tires get hotter if you are speeding? -i could be worng about that assumption.

WHERE IS XILIKEEGGSXXXOOO or whatever NOW?!

WHERE IS XILIKEEGGSXXXOOO or whatever NOW?!

I don't understand what you mean, and I think shes gone into ROTC.

I never speed.

Reason:

Our cops are not particularly forgiving.

This. Nearly everyone my age has lost their licence. Cops tolerate 3km/h over the limit.

I find it surprising that most single vehicle accidents occur on straight sections of road (NSW). That's a clear indicator it was the driver not speed that was the problem. After all how can high speed cause a crash on a straight road?

If your comfortable speeding, then do it. Only reason the cops care is because other drivers are fucking retarded, and cut you off. Of course if it's a 1 lane road with an island in the middle you slam your breaks on(asians are known to cut people off). Owell....And the norther territory used to be infinite, but i think they changed it.

And it doesnt matter if you hit a tree at 90km/h or 190 km/h, the only difference is your body parts will be mostly in the car, and at 190 you'll have trouble finding bits of the car.

I can comfortably sit at 90 in a 70 zone if it's straight enough, but my cars engine is showing signs of old age, getting harder for it to get up to speed.(just past 270,000km).

I don't understand what you mean, and I think shes gone into ROTC.

Because last time we had a conversation about this, she made a huge stink about it and flamed me for ages.

I tend to stay in the slower lanes, tuck in behind a big truck and just cruise. My car simply isn't geared for highway driving. At 70mph I'm at 4000rpm. While the car is happy to do that all day, the gas tank doesn't like it so much.

When I do feel like speeding, though, I move over to the left lanes, and I damn well expect the slow fuckers to get out of the way. I got behind a church van with a trailer going 50mph in the far left lane last night. Silly fucker.

Good lord. I've heard and seen some incredibly stupid people in my day, but I'm glad someone who knew his shit came to the resque (sic??).

Yes, someone who doesn't even follow VW group (likes Audi though).

I tend to stay in the slower lanes, tuck in behind a big truck and just cruise. My car simply isn't geared for highway driving. At 70mph I'm at 4000rpm. While the car is happy to do that all day, the gas tank doesn't like it so much.

When I do feel like speeding, though, I move over to the left lanes, and I damn well expect the slow fuckers to get out of the way. I got behind a church van with a trailer going 50mph in the far left lane last night. Silly fucker.

This, I just tuck in behind a truck and drive to save fuel, unless I'm deliberately having a good time.

I never speed.

Reason:

Our cops are not particularly forgiving.

i can tell you about that...

court's been adjourned twice on my charges, waiting for round three.

i can tell you about that...

court's been adjourned twice on my charges, waiting for round three.
My Australian license was revoked. Never to hold a license in that country again, ahah. :)

Edit: Well in 2013 I have the right to challenge the cancellation of my license in court, but it doesn't matter anymore anyway.

^that country? On a side note Australia's licencing system is utterly backwards.

i can tell you about that...

court's been adjourned twice on my charges, waiting for round three.

Third time's the charm.

Our northern territory's open speed limits on some highways were changed to 130km/h max, and the death toll rose. How do you explain that?

Sorry to bring back an old argument, but you do have to consider the fact that the people who normally drove at their comfortable pace may have seen the new speed limit and mindlessly sped up to meet it, thinking if it was posted, that's what they should go at.

Also to point out along the same lines: It seems likely that the new fatalities were likely from people used to going slower and therefor unskilled at faster driving.

All that said, yes, speed limits are utter BS, but at least they are there with good intentions: To protect us from the retards who shouldn't be behind the wheel anyway. (Not that it really works, but hey, you have to give a retarded government some credit when they try to help... Even when they still fail miserably.)

on some roads in WA they have lines painted on the road.

Occifers of the law will fly overhead and time how long it takes for you to travel between lines, then work out your speed.

I hate the fucking people who get in the left lane and then proceed to drive exactly as fast as the guy in the right lane creating a rolling roadblock. or the assholes who get over in the left lane and then drive 20mph under the speed limit causing everyone to swerve around them. its not fun when a 18 wheeler in front of you has to slam on the brakes and swerve because some dipshit that was doing 65 decided to abruptly move into the passing lane without looking and slows down to a crawl because they are searching for their exit.

Ride a motorcycle in congestion then tell me how bad car drivers are, ahah. The best are the ones who open car doors on you. Or maybe the ones who deliberately swerve into gravel to spray you. Or maybe the ones who look at you, think for a minute, then decide to pull over onto you anyway, regardless of if you have any room.

The majority of car drivers are fuckwits who think they are totally untouchable because they are in their little climate-controlled cube. It's fairly funny when you follow them to the next set of lights and drag them through their fucking window. That big set of balls quickly disappears and suddenly they're so sorry because they just didn't happen to see you, on your 110db motorcycle.

Wankers.

goddamn I hate car drivers, the other day i was on my gsx250 in a CBD zone of a big town and I spent 1.5 hours getting along from one terrace to the other becase of all the cars, and I kept stalling because it is pretty hard to keep the battery charged when you are idling for like 1.5 hours.

Riding around Port Augusta and certain areas of Adelaide on a motorbike must be a pretty dangerous premise. I know I definitely wouldn't feel at ease.

Riding around Port Augusta and certain areas of Adelaide on a motorbike must be a pretty dangerous premise. I know I definitely wouldn't feel at ease.

Port Augusta! On a bike! Hell-to-the-MFing-no... It was a pleasant town, but driving on those roads even in a Falcon is a pain in the ass. All the intersections downtown have wild humps and dips in them, in some cases what seem like curbs! I can only imagine how scary it would be on a bike.

The most retarded part of NSW speed limits are the limits imposed on provisional and learner drivers. How the fuck am I supposed to merge with traffic going 110km/h when I am legally restricted to 90km/h. It's not like the speed restrictions make much difference. IMHO they make driving more dangerous.

This really pisses me off. A couple of weeks ago I was trying to drive an hour to a job interview and it was snowing. There wasn't any snow on the ground, just a little bit of water, and everyone was doing 20 km/h. It tok me 20 minutes just to get 5 km. Suffice to say I missed my interview but could not get over how slow everyone was driving. It was my first time ever driving in the "snow" and I was doing 10km/h over the limit whenever I could and it felt like normal driving.

Why do people get so scared even though there isn't any snow on the ground?

Well if it's snowing but not sticking, it is probably on the verge of freezing. I usually just stick to the limit unless there is a lot of snow, but you'll see why people get overly cautious the first time you really drive in snow;) Though 20 is really too slow almost anywhere...

The most retarded part of NSW speed limits are the limits imposed on provisional and learner drivers. How the fuck am I supposed to merge with traffic going 110km/h when I am legally restricted to 90km/h. It's not like the speed restrictions make much difference. IMHO they make driving more dangerous.

That's retarded, why would you bother to follow that?

because we have less points on our license to begin with and its pretty easy to lose it they way cops are here.

Yeah I got done for 7ks over, that's what, less than 5mph?

Fuck the police.

Lol, all my mates lose their licence for DD, silly fuckers.