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556
2008-11-23, 04:08
I don't know if there was any trust to this to begin with but I've heard from a few sources that sometime in the near future that Nissan was going to begin producing lefthand drive Skylines in America? Like I said I don't know how true any of this is but I've heard something like the baseline model will go for 21K or so among other things.

Anyone care to confirm/deny/explain this to me?

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2008-11-23, 04:52
You mean the G35 ones? I've seen several on the road.

556
2008-11-23, 05:14
I've heard the actual Skyline is coming here. Not the g35 one but an actual GTR. And I still don't understand how the g35 is a skyline? It looks nothing like it.

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2008-11-23, 05:21
I've heard the actual Skyline is coming here. Not the g35 one but an actual GTR. And I still don't understand how the g35 is a skyline? It looks nothing like it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Skyline

Se the V36 one. They're basically G35s badged as skylines. And of course the GTR is coming to the US, I've seen it.

556
2008-11-23, 05:27
oh okay, my car lack of knowledge shines through again, didn't realize there were so many versions of the skyline. why would they import the shittiest looking skyline to america though? that v36 is the worst looking one.

also, isn't the g35 the same thing as the 350z?

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2008-11-23, 05:31
also, isn't the g35 the same thing as the 350z?

Essentially, yeah. Same engine and shit.

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-11-23, 06:13
http://www.moviecritic.com.au/images/coming-to-america-eddie-murphy.jpg
The Nissan Skyline family ended with the R34.

Ahh but you say the G35, V35 & 36 etc? American Skylines. Wannabes, Imposters. Not even recognised by Skyline purists. They're great on their own, but they ain't no Skyline that's for sure. They're actually 350z's in disguise. Plus, typical G35 drivers drive me up the wall.

Even the GTR isn't a Skyline according to Nissan. It's simply the GTR, and though it's heritage is very obvious, they're quite right - it's not a Skyline. It's distanced itself. It's a high dollar supercar, not an affordable high tech working class hiroshima screamer with several models and configurations.

It's already in the USA, and $21,000 won't get you one. That's about how much you have to pay ON TOP of MSRP just to get near one. Nice car, new move from Nissan. Wise and fitting move with the name change.

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-11-23, 06:18
Essentially, yeah. Same engine and shit.

Ahh, didn't see any of your posts (I have a bad habit of opening a million tabs at once, then going through them one by one, then closing them when I'm done. Repeat process on threads with new replys) You're right.

MrFishHat
2008-11-23, 07:08
The GTR has been here for a while, and the skyline hasn't been made even in japan for years, they just took a G35 and called it the skyline, and fyi thats been here for years also.

The GTR has the same factory code as the skylines did, R35, just like the 350z and 370z use the z3x model codes just like the older 300s did.

There Isnt really a skyline anymore. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-11-23, 07:51
^IIRC the USA got to experience the end of the line with the Skylines, only getting the go ahead to import them less than 10 years ago, when the R34 came out. This may be why North Americans popular choice when it comes to Skylines is the R34 - which is still a great model but gets a little overhyped. Definitely a very high tech model.

R32s having been getting bloody popular with enthusiasts in Canada, and I suspect in the US too, for a heap of years now as grey imports.

As 'large' as the volume of grey imported Skylines has become in the last few years, I would say the majority of even Japan only market Skylines have found their way to Oceania, though. Not to mention all the ones originally sold there since the end of the 70's. So that's a good place to look for a rust free one too, be careful as many have been butchered by ricers, some beyond repair. The Japanese have too much pride and respect to do dumb shit like that.

Beacuse they're quite common in New Zealand, Austalia, and some Pacific islands, and have been sold and raced there for over 30 years, the name Skyline means something very different to people from either Hemisphere (excluding Japan and Japanophile Americans). That's what I've gathered, anyway.

Numberjumbo
2008-11-23, 21:02
I'm getting an R33 GTS25t as soon as I can afford it.

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-11-23, 23:02
I'm getting an R33 GTS25t as soon as I can afford it.

R33s are the worst fucking Skylines*. Stock verse Stock the R33 GTS T is faster than the R32 GTS T, but doesn't handle as well at all. Neither are fast until you start modding them, and then it's the lighter and more nimble R32 that really opens up. Maybe this is not the case New Zealand, where you problem got some offbeat 800cc version R32 or something.

But thank god someone else appreciates RWD Skylines. Sure, the GT-R is great and all, but can we please step out of it's fucking overrated limelight already?

*Not much of an insult though, they're still decent.

DocShay
2008-11-24, 10:23
R33s are the worst fucking Skylines*. Stock verse Stock the R33 GTS T is faster than the R32 GTS T, but doesn't handle as well at all. Neither are fast until you start modding them, and then it's the lighter and more nimble R32 that really opens up. Maybe this is not the case New Zealand, where you problem got some offbeat 800cc version R32 or something.

But thank god someone else appreciates RWD Skylines. Sure, the GT-R is great and all, but can we please step out of it's fucking overrated limelight already?

*Not much of an insult though, they're still decent.

While I do agree with you on the specs on all of what you said, i'm with the other guy on the R33 thought - As much as the R32 can out preform a R33....I still like the look of the R33. R33 has enough power for what I want from it.

thunderstruck
2008-11-24, 12:44
But thank god someone else appreciates RWD Skylines. Sure, the GT-R is great and all, but can we please step out of it's fucking overrated limelight already?

Will you bear my children?

Numberjumbo
2008-11-24, 22:05
I'm not necessarily going to get it for racing, sure, I'll have the odd drag at the traffic lights, but that's about it.

I just want one for their look. I was going to get an R32, but they are getting too old. I still might though, if I can find one with decent mileage and not rapage from the owner.

eesakiwi
2008-11-25, 07:34
Nissan Leopard TRX

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2307/2307113929_7acd1525f1.jpg?v=0 4door
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/ericmaxman/DSC00898.jpg 2door

They could have sold a lot more of these if they didn't come out with those rims on them.
The 2 doors actually quite a nice car, I have seen several here in NZ.
Straight 6 & V8!

ViperX202
2008-11-29, 02:26
i don't know if there was any trust to this to begin with but i've heard from a few sources that sometime in the near future that nissan was going to begin producing lefthand drive skylines in america? Like i said i don't know how true any of this is but i've heard something like the baseline model will go for 21k or so among other things.

Anyone care to confirm/deny/explain this to me?

lolol

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2008-11-29, 05:05
lolol

Seems we have a new guru here.

Township Rebellion
2008-11-30, 06:37
Seems we have a new guru here.

lolol

The Skyline is cool and all and I wouldn't say no to a new GT-R (I've seen a couple now, both in Alberta) - they're pretty sexy, especially in black. But it's also a bit heavier and overleaden with electronic wizardry than I'd like. That and it has a dual-clutch gearbox, which means flappy paddles...

Kosmonova
2008-12-01, 04:14
it has been here. It was named Motor Trend Car of the Year 2009

Numberjumbo
2008-12-04, 11:05
Pretty keen to get an R33 GTR.

red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-04, 11:21
lolol

The Skyline is cool and all and I wouldn't say no to a new GT-R (I've seen a couple now, both in Alberta) - they're pretty sexy, especially in black. But it's also a bit heavier and overleaden with electronic wizardry than I'd like. That and it has a dual-clutch gearbox, which means flappy paddles...

i agree. but one big gripe i have about it is that the transmission is made of glass, launch control will destroy it and nissan will void the transmission warranty if you use launch control (it is recorded in the black box). that means none of that 3.2s 0-60 without voiding the warranty. why cant nissan give a 6mt option? why, oh why nissan?

also, announced pricing for the spec-v is $160k!! insane. thats easily a 911 turbo + upgrades that would destroy the gt-r spec-v.

and to the g35, which is sold as the skyline, they're all right, but still not close to their competitors. my cousin has an 05 g35. they're pretty quick in a straight line, but the interior still needs some work if it wants to be a luxury car a la 3-series, c-class, audi a4.

also the new g37 convertible is horrid. horrid. reminds me of a solara convertible from the back.

and also the new gt-r is just called a gt-r, the skyline name is no longer associated with the new gt-r.

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-12-04, 22:58
i agree. but one big gripe i have about it is that the transmission is made of glass, launch control will destroy it and nissan will void the transmission warranty if you use launch control (it is recorded in the black box). that means none of that 3.2s 0-60 without voiding the warranty. why cant nissan give a 6mt option? why, oh why nissan?

also, announced pricing for the spec-v is $160k!! insane. thats easily a 911 turbo + upgrades that would destroy the gt-r spec-v.

and to the g35, which is sold as the skyline, they're all right, but still not close to their competitors. my cousin has an 05 g35. they're pretty quick in a straight line, but the interior still needs some work if it wants to be a luxury car a la 3-series, c-class, audi a4.

also the new g37 convertible is horrid. horrid. reminds me of a solara convertible from the back.

and also the new gt-r is just called a gt-r, the skyline name is no longer associated with the new gt-r.


Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh. Don't know about that 911Turbo part though. Don't think so buddy, not for $160,000...
In Australia a 2009 Nissan GTR is somehwere over $70k MSRP, and a Porsche 911 Turbo is $361k MSRP, which is 5 times as much as the GTR.

You'd be looking at an empty space in your bank vault the size of about $400,000 with dealer markup, on the road fees, and luxury car tax. Maybe even more. The GTR would be about $100,000, most of that being dealer markup because they're so in demand.

I know it's very different in the US, but I doubt you could buy a 911 Turbo and modify it to be faster than the GTR (which dominates it), all for under $160,000. It also costs a fortune to modify a Porsche even in the most simple of ways.

red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-04, 23:10
Duuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh. Don't know about that 911Turbo part though. Don't think so buddy, not for $160,000...
In Australia a 2009 Nissan GTR is somehwere over $70k, and a Porsche 911 Turbo is $361k MSRP, or $400,000 with dealer markup, on the road fees, and luxury car tax. Maybe even more.

ouch, y'all are getting raped on the 911. thats almost carrera gt money out here!! 911 turbo starts off at $128k out here. gt-r starts at $76k if you're lucky and dont get a 5k-10k dealer markup on it. announced pricing for the spec-v was $160k, although for brute power, the zr-1 starts at $105k, and would rape either car.

but for $3300 on the 911, you can get 540 hp and 640 ft/lb, with a chip on 93 octane (our octane is measured differently than yours, 93 here is 98 elsewhere). pretty pricey for software, but apr's software is good shit, they also include race gas modes 100 oct and 104 oct, anti-theft modes, stock mode, and more, usually switchable by the cruise control stalk.
http://goapr.com/Porsche/products/ecu_upgrade_997turbo.html

Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-12-04, 23:19
ouch, y'all are getting raped on the 911. thats almost carrera gt money out here!! 911 turbo starts off at $128k out here. gt-r starts at $76k if you're lucky and dont get a 5k-10k dealer markup on it. announced pricing for the spec-v was $160k, although for brute power, the zr-1 starts at $105k, and would rape either car.

Yeah, we do get raped with a broken bottle on car prices here. For instance you have to pay $91,000 to the government (included in the $361k) in Luxury Car Tax just for the right to buy the vehicle, nothing else, for that 911 Turbo.

And you still haven't paid all the other shit like on the road costs.

But then again Americans get it very very easy not just in comparison to us but the rest of the world also. You guys are lucky that you pay peanuts for cars, and in some cases pay less than the people in the country that car was made in pay for it locally. Outrageous. Australia is on the other end of the stick, where we pay quite a lot for cars. So of course if you compare the two it's crazy. For the most part though, our cars are worth the money we pay for them, and we're ready to pay the insane prices for the fifteen to twenty 911's that sell here every year, because they have a high status.

I'd pick the 911 Turbo too if I were in the US and had the choice. How much is a base 911? I'd pick that over the base GTR too, without a doubt. That's if you could get a crowbar big enough to pry my hands off the ZR1 though.

EDIT: Those mods aren't so bad, wonder how far you can go with the other $28k left over. Insurance, tax & stamp duty, and registration I guess.

red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-04, 23:39
I'd pick the 911 Turbo too if I were in the US and had the choice. How much is a base 911? I'd pick that over the base GTR too, without a doubt. That's if you could get a crowbar big enough to pry my hands off the ZR1 though.

EDIT: Those mods aren't so bad, wonder how far you can go with the other $28k left over. Insurance, tax & stamp duty, and registration I guess.

god, yall get raped on taxes, here its sales tax (8.75% or less) and a minimal fee for registration, and the dealership takes car of inspection in states that require it, usually if they're nice they do the registration too. we call it TT&L, tax, title, and license. 4 years ago i got a new audi a4, and it was about $30k before tt&l, came to $32.8k afterwards.

the base 911 carerra starts at $75.8k, but with the 911 turbo, paying tt&l and gas guzzler tax if its applicable, still you wont be paying over $140-$150k out the door.

another pretty cheap car these days is the old stock of 2008 RS4's, i saw audi dealerships offering $10k-$15k OFF MSRP, coming out to no more than $55k for a brand new RS4! get one of those and a supercharger kit ($10k for 540 hp) and it'll be a pure beast, with money left over. and those v-8's sound like pure SEX. better than the 911's with exhaust, if i might say so myself (heard both).

Rocko
2008-12-05, 20:56
So, will the American version have the GPS speed limiter?

EDIT: According to Wiki, the American models won't have the GPS limiter, so I assume they just have a blanket speed limiter, which of course is easily removed.