I'm about to lose my goddamn mind.

This is the motherboard I currently have. http://fyad.org/wvbo

This is the new CPU I purchased. http://fyad.org/wvbp

Now,I put in the new CPU and turn it on and nothing fucking happens. It starts up and runs,but nothing comes on the screen. The motherboard specs says "Supports Intel Core 2 Duo / Core 2 Extreme" and my CPU clearly on the box says "Intel Core 2 Duo".

I never upgraded my motherboard BIOS or any of that because I always figured if it's not broken don't fix it.

So help me god if I need to buy a new fucking motherboard on top of this i'm going to scream. Then people wonder why I fucking loathe PC gaming and stick the consoles.

This is why you hate PC Gaming? Because you can't fucking read?

You bought a CPU with a 1333 FSB, and a motherboard that supports only up to 1066 FSB. Assuming you've hooked up everything correctly, you're probably going to need a BIOS update for that mobo to support that CPU.

This is why you hate PC Gaming? Because you can't fucking read?

You bought a CPU with a 1333 FSB, and a motherboard that supports only up to 1066 FSB. Assuming you've hooked up everything correctly, you're probably going to need a BIOS update for that mobo to support that CPU.

No,I hate it because it's fucking impossible to decipher this shit. I checked to see if it's the same socket size and what CPU it supports and both checked out ok. When I read "supports Core 2 Duo" I assume that means it supports all Core 2 Duos because what the hell else would it mean. Apparently if I don't know every single technical spec and term and wade through piles of numbers and letters,I can basically go fuck myself. Everything is hooked up correctly because all I did was swap out the CPU. None of this shit is user friendly and set up where the casual customer can understand it without hiring a cryptographer.

This is just fucking dandy. I'm done with this.

No,I hate it because it's fucking impossible to decipher this shit. I checked to see if it's the same socket size and what CPU it supports and both checked out ok. When I read "supports Core 2 Duo" I assume that means it supports all Core 2 Duos because what the hell else would it mean. Apparently if I don't know every single technical spec and term and wade through piles of numbers and letters,I can basically go fuck myself. Everything is hooked up correctly because all I did was swap out the CPU. None of this shit is user friendly and it's nothing but a goddamn headache.

This is just fucking dandy. I'm done with this.
Can I have your new cpu and motherboard?

Don't lose your head just yet, it will probably only take a BIOS update to make it support it. I can't be sure, because I wouldn't buy a CPU that my motherboard would cripple, but it should work.

Don't lose your head just yet, it will probably only take a BIOS update to make it support it. I can't be sure, because I wouldn't buy a CPU that my motherboard would cripple, but it should work.
Nah, its basically worthless. An update won't fix shit. Send me your cpu and motherboard.

Don't lose your head just yet, it will probably only take a BIOS update to make it support it. I can't be sure, because I wouldn't buy a CPU that my motherboard would cripple, but it should work.

Sorry. I know i'm overreacting,but money is pretty tight right now and I really can't afford a new motherboard at this moment. I can't decipher all these numbers and shit,I figured when I read "supports Core 2 Duo" that if I got one it would work. Now i'm trying to find where you get new motherboard updates because all I can find through Google are ones from 2003.

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=32&DetailID=677&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=1&LanID=0

The latest update revision doesn't say it has support for the E8400, but it might work, I don't know.

Before you go through the trouble though, triple check that everything is seated properly.

http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?CategoryID=1&TypeID=32&DetailID=677&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=1&LanID=0

The latest update revision doesn't say it has support for the E8400, but it might work, I don't know.

Being the PC gaming guru on here,you think I should update the BIOS or not? I mean,if I flash this BIOS and it won't start up with my current setup,i'll shoot myself in the face. I don't need to break something when it's working fine when the new CPU might not work anyway.

If you're sure everything is set up right, then it can't hurt to flash to a newer BIOS to try and get it working.

A lot of those older mobos require a BIOS update to even function with the newer C2D's, so that may very well be your problem.

Yay. bios update now has my pc stuck at a blank black screen when I power it up. Press power and the case LEDs dont even come on. Shit is comatose. Is there any way to unfuck this now without buying a new mobo. Posting this from Wii.

Was the motherboard working before you did this? Are you sure the BIOS was flashed successfully? Are you sure all the components are seated properly? Does your motherboard make any beeping sounds when you hit the power? Does it have any LED error code readouts on the motherboard? I know my old motherboard has a little LED screen that tells me what kind of error was stopping my system from booting.

Everything was working perfect. Got the bios and utility from manufacters website. It went through what it needed and said it has to restart to finish. Pc restarted and now it powers on to a black screen. No post boot,nothing. No LEDs of anything come on,no beeps,etc. What the fuck.

Everything was working perfect. Got the bios and utility from manufacters website. It went through what it needed and said it has to restart to finish. Pc restarted and now it powers on to a black screen. No post boot,nothing. No LEDs of anything come on,no beeps,etc. What the fuck.

You could try resetting the bios. Just take one of the pin cases off that are next to your bios chip and then put it back again after a few seconds. This worked for me when my comp. wouldn't boot anything (not even the post-boot).

To be honest, though, I'm probably as shit at computers as you are :(.

Can I have your new cpu and motherboard?

CAN I have your new cpu and mother board????

1. LOL if you buy shit from tiger direct

2. There site is fucking PINK.

So, did you build this computer from scratch or was it an existing build that you put new parts into? The way you said "this is the motherboard I currently have" and "this is the new CPU I got" make me assume the latter.

If so, and everything was working perfectly fine before, you either got a bum CPU or your motherboard is having trouble recognizing it. The BIOS update should have fixed that though, so I don't know.

The CPU is not dysfunctional. The problem is that the CPU and motherboard are incompatible. Look at the specifications of the ECS NFORCE 570 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135026). It supports an FSB of 1066 or 800MHz. Look at the specification of Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037). Its FSB is 1333MHz.
Sorry 33% God. You need either a different motherboard or a different CPU. Here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=2000200280&PropertyCodeValue=705%3A9908%2C707%3A31640%2C707%3 A25639&bop=And&Order=STOCK) are motherboards on newegg that support the E8400.

The E8400 isn't locked into using a 1333 FSB though is it? I thought a BIOS update could allow the older motherboards to use it, he just wouldn't get the full potential of his CPU?

EDIT: Apparently only some motherboards can support the higher FSB C2D's through a BIOS update:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/244424-28-1333fsb-1066fsb-motherboard

Somehow I doubt that ECS mobo does then :(. You're better off either trying to return that CPU, or sell it and buy one of the slightly lower end C2D's like this one (which I believe is the best C2D with a 1066 FSB):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115206&Tpk=E7400

So, did you build this computer from scratch or was it an existing build that you put new parts into? The way you said "this is the motherboard I currently have" and "this is the new CPU I got" make me assume the latter.

If so, and everything was working perfectly fine before, you either got a bum CPU or your motherboard is having trouble recognizing it. The BIOS update should have fixed that though, so I don't know.

I had a PC put together for a year now. I decided I wanted to upgrade some parts to play Left4Dead. I put the new CPU in and it wouldnt work (PC wouldnt come on). I then put the old CPU back in and came on here to make this thread. You told me to run the BIOS update on my motherboard and it came with a utility in the zip file with the update from the manufacturer. It did it from inside Windows. I backed up the BIOS to my hard drive,then put the new one I downloaded on. It erased the BIOS and put the new update in. Then it told me I needed to restart the PC. PC restarted and it just sits at a black screen now (and this is on the working config,the setup i've been using a year). No post,no beeps nothing,it's just comatose. I used the jumper to reset the CMOS and no headway. Then I took off the battery from the mobo and left the whole thing unplugged for like 9 hours,turned it on,still black. The thing is basically comatose for no reason aside from that the fucking BIOS update from the manufacturer fucked the whole thing up apparently. The mobo is about a year old so I can't even RMA it.

I am seriously lost and i'm going to fucking snap if this shit just bricked my mobo for shits and giggles.

look on the bright side, if it was an amd cpu u might have broke ur mother board before u started because the default heatsink superglues itself to the cpu!

have u tried the new cpu in the mboard after upgrading the bios?

CAN I have your new cpu and mother board????
You sure can, fine sir. What address shall I be sending these to?

I hate to say it, but if absolutely nothing happens when you try to turn it on, even using the CPU that worked before, and you're sure everything is hooked up right, it sounds like a bad BIOS flash. Did everything go according to plan when you flashed it?

This is why I'm just buying an Alienware when I get out of school -_-

I'm good with using computers and modding consoles/handhelds... but building/modifying your own computer is a pain at times and is over my head (and budget) at the moment.

I doubt I would ever buy an Alienware though... I would rather just do some research and reading and piece together a really awesome/cheap one with a cool case. Actually I think I'll just end up asking people on forums to build their 'dream computer' and provide links to all the parts, then it's basically built for me heh.

ECS motherboards are absolutely notorious for weird problems like this. i built a system with an ecs board and it wouldnt run properly, turns out it wasnt the TYPE of ram, but the BRAND! my general rule of thumb for motherboards is to not spend too cheap, but not too expensive either. i personally enjoy msi boards, but you just have to go through trial and error. also, although the FSB is higher on the cpu than the mobo supports, GENERALLY the cpu fsb will just clock down to what the mobo can support, but as i said it is an ecs motherboard and this may not be the case.

also, although the FSB is higher on the cpu than the mobo supports, GENERALLY the cpu fsb will just clock down to what the mobo can support, but as i said it is an ecs motherboard and this may not be the case.

Exactly, although many will support a CPU with a higher FSB, it seems some won't, and I'm willing to bet a cheap mobo made by ECS won't. Seriously, you should never buy low quality parts when it comes to your computer. Sometimes you won't have a problem and you'll be happy you saved a few bucks, but most of the time you will and you'll realize the savings weren't worth the hassle.

Honestly, you should have done a little more research and went with the E7400 because even if the ECS mobo had supported the E8400, it would have been crippled and probably wouldn't have performed even as well as the cheaper E7400 would. If you're not 100% certain of what you're doing you shouldn't buy parts without consulting someone who does. Kind of sucks to learn this the hard way :(.

*facepalms

Don't worry though. You're not the only one who does dumb shit like that. Back when I was in high school I had a part time job assembling mostly gaming PCs in a small tech store. We'd get people like you daily with these type of issues. Back in the day it was morons buying AMD CPUs for Intel P4 mobos. Every now and then we'd get a dipshit to return his PC after he installed the mobo without using those plastic plugs to keep it separated from the case. You can already imagine what happened when he turned his new computer on... poof! It was especially funny when they spent 2k on new hardware and fucked it all up themselves that same day.

I think that's about the time when I started to hate the counter-strike generation of PC gamers.

Having a lower FSB than is required will not prevent your PC from running.

You probably either have something unplugged or you don't have enough power. That's my guess.

My second guess is something is defective.

And someone already said it but google on how to reset your bios. We can tell you but you need to see pictures & shit cause you're not gonna understand by us just saying it anyways.

You should have got Left4Dead for the xbox, and saved yourself the headache of fucking around with your computer all day.

You should have got Left4Dead for the xbox, and saved yourself the headache of fucking around with your computer all day.
Left for dead sucks cock on xbox though.

Left 4 Dead on 360 is one of the ugliest games I've seen this generation. Blurry and jagged as fuck. Also, dual analog controls are fail and a half.

PC or bust.

Yeah well,I just accept that the bios got a bad flash. Everything went perfect during the flash & just never came back. Ended up buying a new mobo.

Shit. You live and learn I guess. Shitty way to learn though. Oh well.

I hope you bought a mobo with a 1333 FSB this time.

What brand did you buy btw?

Yeah it supports it and the 45nm size of the cpu. Its an Asus i believe. I guess i grabbed the last one because its listed as unavailable now.

I would laugh if you bought the wrong motherboard.

I would laugh if you bought the wrong motherboard.

Well,I read the specs to the best knowledge I had. It's the same socket size,supports the FSB,45nm Multi-Core Support,and says it supports the Intel Core 2 Duo (then again,the other said the same thing).

Hopefully this one will work now.

Left4Dead better be a fucking amazing game because it's turned into the most expensive and the most frustrating game to acquire for the PC.

Well,I read the specs to the best knowledge I had. It's the same socket size,supports the FSB,45nm Multi-Core Support,and says it supports the Intel Core 2 Duo (then again,the other said the same thing).

Hopefully this one will work now.

Left4Dead better be a fucking amazing game because it's turned into the most expensive and the most frustrating game to acquire for the PC.
It shall be worth it. I've heard some people say their 360 can't even handle a large horde rush, which is what makes the game fun.

Left for dead sucks cock on xbox though.

It's the exact same game. The only difference is on the 360 you put the disk in and like magic you can play the game.

Playing games on PC always ends up being more frustrating than fun, unless you have a beasty computer.

The only difference is on the 360 you put the disk in and like magic you can play the game.

You forgot the inferior controls and shitty graphics.

Also, the PC version has auto-updating and will undoubtedly have extra free content drops.

You forgot the inferior controls and shitty graphics.

Oh boy...

You forgot the inferior controls and shitty graphics.



left4dead's a game made for gamepads so i dont know why u would bitch about that

left4dead's a game made for gamepads so i dont know why u would bitch about that

The game was developed for PC and ported to 360, it was not made for gamepads :rolleyes:.

And seriously, the 360 version is one of the ugliest games I've seen this generation. It looks like someone smeared vaseline all over the screen and the characters are poorly cut out paper dolls who's serated limbs could chop you into tiny pieces. Despite all that, it still runs like shit when a horde of zombies shows up.

Sure, it's dreadful looks were probably exacerbated by the fact that I went directly from playing at 1920x1200 with 4XAA and 16xAF to 1280x720 with no AA or AF, but it's still no excuse because quite a few 360 games have AA and considering just how well the PC version runs, it blows my mind just how poorly the 360 version runs. I guess we can just all be thankful they didn't make a PS3 version, because after how poorly the Orange Box ran in comparison to both the PC and 360 versions I can only imagine the atrocity that L4D PS3 would be.

I guess we can just all be thankful they didn't make a PS3 version, because after how poorly the Orange Box ran in comparison to both the PC and 360 versions I can only imagine the atrocity that L4D PS3 would be.

That has fuck all to do with the PS3. It's because most video game programmers are lazy idiots. Also, Left 4 Dead is a shitty game. I don't see why anyone would play that on whatever platform.

Also, people who pull AA and AF thing into a PC vs consoles argument (which is retaded on its own) are idiots.

Break yo'self!

That has fuck all to do with the PS3. It's because most video game programmers are lazy idiots.

True to an extent, it was a very poor port, but at this point it seems 90% of PS3 ports end up performing under par. Sure you can call the developer's lazy, or you can say the PS3 is a pain to develop for. In reality, it's probably a bit of both. However, a lot of effort was supposedly put into the 360 port, I'm just saying if they did another OB style PS3 port it would probably run at 15 frames a second when a horde showed up.

Also, Left 4 Dead is a shitty game. I don't see why anyone would play that on whatever platform.

Left 4 Dead is the best multiplayer game released this year, hands down.

Also, people who pull AA and AF thing into a PC vs consoles argument (which is retaded on its own) are idiots.

Why? With the performance these systems were touted as having, it's really quite appalling that they don't have AA and AF standard. Hell, neither has that much of a performance impact with my 4850. It's really a huge problem with the PS3, there are a lot of multiplatform games that have 2xAA, and even 4xAA on the 360, that have none on the PS3, which is just embarrassing. Again, it could come down to lazy devs, or it could be a hard to develop for console with a weak GPU. No matter how you slice it, it's still pathetic.

The game was developed for PC and ported to 360, it was not made for gamepads :rolleyes:.



it plays like it has been

it plays like it has been

Not in my opinion, but I went from playing with M/KB to trying it on the 360, so it was obviously going to seem worse.

I'm sure they did all they could to make it serviceable, but I can't stand it. Within 2 minutes I had decided it would be more fun to try and make it through using only the medpack's melee.

Why? With the performance these systems were touted as having, it's really quite appalling that they don't have AA and AF standard. Hell, neither has that much of a performance impact with my 4850. It's really a huge problem with the PS3, there are a lot of multiplatform games that have 2xAA, and even 4xAA on the 360, that have none on the PS3, which is just embarrassing. Again, it could come down to lazy devs, or it could be a hard to develop for console with a weak GPU. No matter how you slice it, it's still pathetic.

Again, this is due to programmer laziness and idiocy. The games that weren't developed by monkeys will have both AA and AF. It's easy to improve overall performance by just not using AA and AF. EAsy.

Also, AA and AF isn't to be taken for granted on the PC. Sure, you probably have a 2k PC and you'll be able to push both to the max on a 1920x1200 resolution. However, most PCs will break if you do that. AF won't hit your performance that hard, but once you up the AA, your framerate gets fucked in the ass unless you have a top of the line graphics card and even then... you'll get a big hit to performance. You know I'm right about this. Sure, upping the AA and AF on a regular PC might work OK at first, but as soon as a lot of action starts going on, your GPU CRAPS itself. And then the framerate starts the dangle around the high end of 3 frames per second.

Also, AA and AF are way over rated. Sure, they're the icing on the cake if you can use them without a serious hit to performance, but AA isn't worth the effort in my eyes if your frame rate is going to drop by 1400%. Either they need to work out a new algorithm to get rid of the jagged edges or they need to make GPUs that can handle the stress. Such a big hit to performance for such a "small" feat isn't worth it in my eyes.

Also, AA and AF isn't to be taken for granted on the PC. Sure, you probably have a 2k PC and you'll be able to push both to the max on a 1920x1200 resolution. However, most PCs will break if you do that. AF won't hit your performance that hard, but once you up the AA, your framerate gets fucked in the ass unless you have a top of the line graphics card and even then... you'll get a big hit to performance. You know I'm right about this. Sure, upping the AA and AF on a regular PC might work OK at first, but as soon as a lot of action starts going on, your GPU CRAPS itself. And then the framerate starts the dangle around the high end of 3 frames per second.

Also, AA and AF are way over rated. Sure, they're the icing on the cake if you can use them without a serious hit to performance, but AA isn't worth the effort in my eyes if your frame rate is going to drop by 1400%. Either they need to work out a new algorithm to get rid of the jagged edges or they need to make GPUs that can handle the stress. Such a big hit to performance for such a "small" feat isn't worth it in my eyes.

You obviously haven't gamed on a PC in a while, because most of today's cards can push AA and AF without much of a performance hit. My videocard cost $150, and all told my PC cost less than $400, yet I've run all the recent games at 1920x1200 with with 16xAF, and most of them with AA too. That's Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Pure, Dead Space, Left 4 Dead, etc.

You obviously haven't gamed on a PC in a while, because most of today's cards can push AA and AF without much of a performance hit. My videocard cost $150, and all told my PC cost less than $400, yet I've run all the recent games at 1920x1200 with with 16xAF, and most of them with AA too. That's Far Cry 2, Fallout 3, Pure, Dead Space, Left 4 Dead, etc.

People like to exaggerate. I'm not going to straight out call you a liar because I respect you. But... people exaggerate.

Do you want me to get screenshots? Do you want me to link to every part of my build to show you how much it cost? What part about what I said rings false to you?

People like to exaggerate. I'm not going to straight out call you a liar because I respect you. But... people exaggerate.

I believe it. I have a Radeon 4850, and it was ~$150. I play all of those games on 1680x1050 with settings all the way up and with a very playable frame rate.

People like to exaggerate. I'm not going to straight out call you a liar because I respect you. But... people exaggerate.
You are a retard.

Do you want me to get screenshots? Do you want me to link to every part of my build to show you how much it cost? What part about what I said rings false to you?

I know how to make a decent gaming PC and right now, the cheapest solution I can get assembled that won't clog up with the newest games is €721 and that's without the screen, mouse, keyboard or windows. I'm sure you can download windows but still, a decent screen that goes to 1920x1200 will set you back at least €200.

Saying that you can assemble a good PC for $400 is an outright lie, but I'll just stick with calling it an exaggeration. Unless PC parts grown on trees where you live.

I'm sure PC fanwhores will shit bricks when they read my post but hey, get bent.

Well obviously I didn't include the price of my monitor in those $400, you wouldn't include the price of an HDTV in the purchase of a console would you?

Here's a breakdown of my specs with the price I paid for each part:

AMD X2 5000+ Black Edition at 3.1 GHZ - $80
Thermaltake Soprano RS case - Free with purchase of CPU
Gigabyte Mobo: $80
300GB WD SATA - (harvested from old computer, but $40)
2GB Patriot RAM - $30
500W Antec EarthWatts - $40
Visiontek Radeon 4850 - $150
Vista Ultimate - Free (Lulz)
DVD-RW drive - $20

So $400 exactly without the HD I took from my old build, and $440 with it.

My monitor is a BenQ G2400W 24" LCD, with DVI, HDMI, and VGA which I paid $370 for, and got a WD 250GB Passbook External HD along with it, and $75 cash back from live search club.

This was a couple months ago too, my brother just bought a barebones system that included:

A no name case with a 450W PSU
An MSI mobo
An AMD X2 5000+
And 2GB of Kingston RAM

For $130.

He then bought a 1TB HD for $95, and a 4850 for $150 (with a $25 rebate, so $125 if you like). Carrying over a DVD drive and probably the PSU from his old build, since the one that comes with the case will undoubtedly be shit.

So that's what, about $380 before the rebate?

A no name case with a 450W PSU
An MSI mobo
An AMD X2 5000+
And 2GB of Kingston RAM
4850

That's a nice PC. It's just unfortunate that it will seriously struggle to render your newest games at 1920x1200 with high settings and AA and AF maxed...

Also, what's up with getting all this crap for free and on discount? Coupons...? Foodstamps? :confused:

That's a nice PC. It's just unfortunate that it will seriously struggle to render your newest games at 1920x1200 with high settings and AA and AF maxed...

Fallout 3: 1920x1200 2xAA 16xAF
Pure: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Dead Space: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
GRiD: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Left 4 Dead: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Team Fortress 2: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
The Witcher: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
BioShock: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF

About the only game my computer struggles with at those settings is Crysis (since my brother's new PC is nearly identical), but I'd already played through that on my CRT at 1600x1200 with 8xAF before I bought my new monitor.

Really dude, you should probably just shut your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about ;).

Fallout 3: 1920x1200 2xAA 16xAF
Pure: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Dead Space: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
GRiD: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Left 4 Dead: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
Team Fortress 2: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
The Witcher: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF
BioShock: 1920x1200 4xAA 16xAF

About the only game my computer struggles with at those settings is Crysis (since my brother's new PC is nearly identical), but I'd already played through that on my CRT at 1600x1200 with 8xAF before I bought my new monitor.

Really dude, you should probably just shut your mouth when you don't know what you're talking about ;).

I know exactly what I'm talking about. And I know your system will struggle with those games at those settings. The power of exaggeration is strong with this one. Since this is the Internet however, going further into this would be an act of /b/tardness.

Yeah, nothing gives me more pleasure than making up how well I run games on my computer :rolleyes:.

Also, I forgot Far Cry 2, which I ran at 1920x1200 with 16xAF. I stopped playing it not too long into it though because it's boring as fuck.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and Call of Duty 4 which I played on my CRT at 1600x1200 with 4XAA and 16xAF. Thought it was shit and stopped playing it. Ran really well though, if I actually wanted to play it again I'm sure it would fair just as well at 1920x1200 with the same settings.

Yeah, nothing gives me more pleasure than making up how well I run games on my computer.

My point exactly. :o

Why do you insist on continuing to troll me :(?

Louis isn't impressed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0002.jpg

Francis is really hurt:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0001.jpg

And Zoey is straight up sick of your shit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0003.jpg

Why do you insist on continuing to troll me :(?

Louis isn't impressed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0002.jpg

Francis is really hurt:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0001.jpg

And Zoey is straight up sick of your shit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/l4d_hospital01_apartment0003.jpg

I'd be annoyed at 10 fps as well. :p

Bill has grown tired of your shenanigans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/billissickofyourshit.jpg

Bill has grown tired of your shenanigans:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v457/Opioid/billissickofyourshit.jpg

http://www.synclinalllun.net/dumbshit/oleskool/punch.gif :eek:

My e-peen is fucking throbbing at this point.

Thanks for the pick me up.

I'd be annoyed at 10 fps as well. :p

What is it like to be averse to truth?

Radeon 4850 Benchmarks (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,648086/Reviews/Radeon_HD_4850_PCGH_Benchmark_Review/?page=1)

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/medium/2008/06/1213869577739.PNG
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/medium/2008/06/1213869587952.PNG
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/medium/2008/06/1213869602849.PNG
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/medium/2008/06/GRID_1920_4x.PNG

Another group of benchmarks (http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5603-view-radeon-hd-4850-benchmarks.html)