Sort of. I'm afraid of going outside at night. I don't live in a bad area really, but I've just heard of too many incidents of people getting bashed/mugged/etc in our area.

Recently I was approached by a crazy drunk, who asked if I wanted to get high with him. I declined, and kept walking. I know it wasn't much, but it's really contributed to my fear of going out at night.

I really want to get over this - as I love the nighttime. Has anyone been in this situation before? What did you do to get over it?

:(

So your not afraid of the dark as much as afraid of hobo's and muggers.

I guess what you need is a gun or some Karate lessons, or if the neighbourhoods really bad both.

So your not afraid of the dark as much as afraid of hobo's and muggers.

I guess what you need is a gun or some Karate lessons, or if the neighbourhoods really bad both.

Guns are illegal here. But let's say if worse comes to worse - I injure an attacker somehow. Would that be illegal? Or legal because of self defense?

I am not a lawyer, nor was I presenting that as a plausable solution for a phobia. If it becomes crippling see a psycologist.

Although for the record if you killed an attacker with your bare hands it would be legally self defence, but if you shot them it would be excessive force, so opt for Karate.

I am not really one to give advice as I would probably have gone and gotten high with the crazy hobo anyway.

I am not a lawyer, nor was I presenting that as a plausable solution for a phobia. If it becomes crippling see a psycologist.

Although for the record if you killed an attacker with your bare hands it would be legally self defence, but if you shot them it would be excessive force, so opt for Karate.

I am not really one to give advice as I would probably have gone and gotten high with the crazy hobo anyway.

Hahaha. Well, I don't want to see a psycologist. And I don't think karate really does much. But I might look into it. Thanks

If you're a girl as your name suggests, you're going to have a hard time overpowering the average male attacker just because you do karate. Just get a gun.

karate can let one kick ass, given the space to kick.
Martial arts can definitely provide skills to protect oneself against the unskilled.
Females , with their inherent flexibility can definitely kick ass.
A heel kick at the end of a 25 pound leg is equal to a 25# sledge hammer .... nasty.

The OP posts like She/He lives in an urban environment.
Hobos gettin high sounds inner city.

Anyway , martial art training is recommended for inner city survival, regardless of ones sex.

I don't think that's a fair comparison. In reality, a sledgehammer is not only the length of the tool itself, but also the arms holding it. That's a much larger radius than that of the average female leg. In addition, I think you recruit more muscles swinging a sledgehammer which also translates into more force. I don't know if you're exaggerating or not but I'm just saying.

Anyway, even with martial arts training, your average female is still going to be at a disadvantage in a fight with your average male. I don't think martial arts training is bad for anyone but a gun is always your best bet when you want to disable an attacker.

You just need a boyfriend to take care of you at night.

.... I don't know if you're exaggerating or not but I'm just saying.
....

I stand by my analogy.
a female's leg in a nasty wheel kick will equal being hit by a 25 pound sledge hammer.
I've been hit by one, so I know from experience.

You just need a boyfriend to take care of you at night.

Yeah. You're a girl. Girl's are afraid of the dark and random people at night. That's why they take cabs and get guys to walk them home. Get mace if it makes you feel better, but you're probably better off just going wherever your going with someone.

Get a gun?

Morons on Totse never cease to amaze me. Anyone recommending a woman learn "martial arts" or "karate" to take on a mugger or attacker is fucking retarded. Flat out fucking retarded.

Seriously, the overwhelming majority of women will not be able to over power, much less hold their own against a male attacker.

Even forgetting that men have every single physical advantage over females- 99% of people when confronted by an attacker or real situation where their safety of life is endangered is going to fucking PANIC. Teach a fucking 140lb girl karate for 4 fucking years and have her attacked at night in a city street, she'll shit her fucking pants and adrenaline will make sure everything she's learned about martial art goes out the window in a fraction of a second.... This aint Hollywood you tools. She's not going to karate kick a mugger in the face and walk away victorious, you're suggesting fictional fucking hollywood scenarios to a woman asking a real question.

Listen OP, know the area you're traveling in, constantly be aware of your surroundings, try to avoid traveling alone, and should you ever feel endangered or threatened by someone that confronts you then remove yourself from the situation immediately- run. That's your best option and safest bet to get out of any situation, run, run, run. Trust your gut.

Ignore these retards telling you to face the attacker, even the most renowned self defense instructors in the world will instruct people-both MEN AND WOMEN, that their first and best option when ever confronted with an attacker is to RUN. You have absolutely zero idea of their intentions and the lengths they're willing to go to accomplish whatever they're trying to do, real life is real.

Get fit, so if you are attacked you can run away fast and for along time. Also if you get bashed recovery wont take too long if you're fit. I'm assuming you live in Europe somewhere, have you thought abouttaking up boxing/kickboxing that's sure to give you the confidence you need and it's a good skill to have under you're belt aswell.

I wouldn't walk around my city alone at night. It's not a matter of being afraid as it is being safe. Obviously this would be different if I lived in suburbia but there aren't a lot of crack smoking hobos there so I don't think that is your current situation. To be honest, getting fit isn't going to do you any good. Well, it is going to do you a world of good, unless someone has a gun or a knife and then you're fucked... or if your attacker is 6'3 250lbs. You shouldn't be walking around in any city at night without a group of friends. Furthermore, if you're a girl you shouldn't be walking around in a group without a few men. Not to sound sexist but you are going to look less like a target if you're with a bunch of guys. Know where you are and don't go where you shouldn't be going.

Sometimes there really isn't anything you can do. Some friends got robbed at gun point earlier this year and they are by no means small guys. It wasn't in a bad part of the city they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

To be honest, getting fit isn't going to do you any good.

Getting fighting fit will surely build up confidence, so it will help alot.

Pepper spray or bear spray personal taser knife firearm baton cattle prod and the list goes on and on just know how to use em before you care them or they could be used on you

Getting fighting fit will surely build up confidence, so it will help alot.

Well, it is going to do you a world of good, unless someone has a gun or a knife and then you're fucked... or if your attacker is 6'3 250lbs.

Having confidence doesn't mean shit when you're hit in the head with a 9mm and robbed.

Having confidence doesn't mean shit when you're hit in the head with a 9mm and robbed.

She wants to get over her fear of the dark.

She wants to get over her fear of the dark.

Did you even read her post?

I really want to get over this - as I love the nighttime. Has anyone been in this situation before? What did you do to get over it?


Yes I did.

LOL, get a nightlight.

I stand by my analogy.
a female's leg in a nasty wheel kick will equal being hit by a 25 pound sledge hammer.
I've been hit by one, so I know from experience.

These are two different things and likely not equal just because the leg and sledgehammer are the same weight for the reasons I said and others. A woman is certainly capable of doing damage. However, the average woman is in a disadvantage in a fight with the average man and an attacker always has an advantage in these kinds of situations over the defender. This is something that won't be remedied by martial arts training. In addition, an attacker probably has a weapon anyway putting her at a further disadvantage. Fighting is not the most probable way to get out of a conflict like this unscathed.

If she did want to have the choice to fight back, she should get a gun. That would give her the best chance of being able to disable an attacker but it's unlikely she'd get one anyway. The best way to counter an unwanted encounter at night would be to avoid putting yourself in the situation in the first place. Try to stay in safer areas if you go out and don't go out alone.

Yes I did.

Then you would know she is afraid of the dark because she "heard of too many incidents of people getting bashed/mugged/etc in our [her] area".

To OP:
As state before, your fear is healthy. Don't listen to all these idiots telling you to learn some karate and kick ass. Fighting sports are a good healthy hobby that can be lifesaving in certain circumstances. However it would be ridiculous to try to fight off a mugger, especially if you are a woman. Confidence doesn't make you any less of a target. Travel in numbers. Anyone who tells you otherwise has 1) Never lived in a city or 2) is a 15 year old badass

Then you would know she is afraid of the dark because she "heard of too many incidents of people getting bashed/mugged/etc in our [her] area".

To OP:
As state before, your fear is healthy. Don't listen to all these idiots telling you to learn some karate and kick ass. Fighting sports are a good healthy hobby that can be lifesaving in certain circumstances. However it would be ridiculous to try to fight off a mugger, especially if you are a woman. Confidence doesn't make you any less of a target. Travel in numbers. Anyone who tells you otherwise has 1) Never lived in a city or 2) is a 15 year old badass

Common sense would be to go out in numbers. And her fear isn't healthy. Caution is healthy. Confidence will help her go out at night, it's just bad luck if she gets mugged which I doubt will happen anyway unless shes out till ridiculous times.

Common sense would be to go out in numbers. And her fear isn't healthy. Caution is healthy. Confidence will help her go out at night, it's just bad luck if she gets mugged which I doubt will happen anyway unless shes out till ridiculous times.

It is only "common sense" to travel in numbers because people fear being mugged. If people have nothing to fear then there is no need for caution. Furthermore if being mugged was reduced to mere "bad luck" then precautionary measures would always be futile and therefore they would be irrational. That, however, is not the case. There are a million preventive measures you can take, and should take, which would allow you to circumvent the confrontation. No amount of self defense will keep you safe on the streets. No amount of confidence will make you any less of a target. Being "confident" in your fighting ability shouldn't eliminate your healthy fear of the freaks that come out after dark. Yea martial arts may make you a more confident fighter inside a controlled environment, but remember that the rules change in the real world. With guns and knives so readily available being a better fight doesn't always give you the upper hand. Therefore this "confidence" you have doesn't mean shit, and can actually be your downfall.

It is only "common sense" to travel in numbers because people fear being mugged. If people have nothing to fear then there is no need for caution. Furthermore if being mugged was reduced to mere "bad luck" then precautionary measures would always be futile and therefore they would be irrational. That, however, is not the case. There are a million preventive measures you can take, and should take, which would allow you to circumvent the confrontation. No amount of self defense will keep you safe on the streets. No amount of confidence will make you any less of a target. Being "confident" in your fighting ability shouldn't eliminate your healthy fear of the freaks that come out after dark. Yea martial arts may make you a more confident fighter inside a controlled environment, but remember that the rules change in the real world. With guns and knives so readily available being a better fight doesn't always give you the upper hand. Therefore this "confidence" you have doesn't mean shit, and can actually be your downfall.

For FUCK sake. It will give her more confidence to go out though, I didn't say anything about be able to kick a gun wielders ass. Otherwise you're absolutely right.

For FUCK sake. It will give her more confidence to go out though, I didn't say anything about be able to kick a gun wielders ass. Otherwise you're absolutely right.

Yea and I'm saying that if she is not confident to go out because of all the gun wielding freaks, then being skilled in martial arts shouldn't make her anymore confident because it does nothing to eliminate this threat.

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Yea and I'm saying that if she is not confident to go out because of all the gun wielding freaks, then being skilled in martial arts shouldn't make her anymore confident because it does nothing to eliminate this threat.

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Being fitter will make someone more confident regardless.

Being fitter will make someone more confident regardless.

Being fit doesn't make me anymore confident in calculus because there isn't a correlation between the two. If it did then it would be a false confidence.

You see how the two situations are similar?

Well I keep a huge nail punch like weapon on me at all times its simple and effective

Well I keep a huge nail punch like weapon on me at all times its simple and effective

That would definitely make me a little more confident

I live in chicago the worse place in the U.S. illegaly own a glock 18 as i am not the right age but im to scared to go outside at all because off gang wars and robberys once my uncle was sitting on his porch and there was a drive by GD(gangsters discple) vs. VL(vice lord)
And They drove by with 2 guys with uzis random spraying and one other gangsters got killed right in front of my house and they shot my uncle in leg on accident and it was bad because he lives 2 houses down from me

I stand by my analogy.
a female's leg in a nasty wheel kick will equal being hit by a 25 pound sledge hammer.
I've been hit by one, so I know from experience.

I could cave your skull in with my 28 ounce framing hammer.

a 25 pound sledgehammer would render you unrecognisable.

Huffing raid will give you more strength and courage than Mr. Smith's mother. It also improves night vision should you feel that is an issue.

I don't know man, she's pretty courageous.

Morons on Totse never cease to amaze me. Anyone recommending a woman learn "martial arts" or "karate" to take on a mugger or attacker is fucking retarded. Flat out fucking retarded.

Seriously, the overwhelming majority of women will not be able to over power, much less hold their own against a male attacker.

Even forgetting that men have every single physical advantage over females- 99% of people when confronted by an attacker or real situation where their safety of life is endangered is going to fucking PANIC. Teach a fucking 140lb girl karate for 4 fucking years and have her attacked at night in a city street, she'll shit her fucking pants and adrenaline will make sure everything she's learned about martial art goes out the window in a fraction of a second.... This aint Hollywood you tools. She's not going to karate kick a mugger in the face and walk away victorious, you're suggesting fictional fucking hollywood scenarios to a woman asking a real question.

Listen OP, know the area you're traveling in, constantly be aware of your surroundings, try to avoid traveling alone, and should you ever feel endangered or threatened by someone that confronts you then remove yourself from the situation immediately- run. That's your best option and safest bet to get out of any situation, run, run, run. Trust your gut.

Ignore these retards telling you to face the attacker, even the most renowned self defense instructors in the world will instruct people-both MEN AND WOMEN, that their first and best option when ever confronted with an attacker is to RUN. You have absolutely zero idea of their intentions and the lengths they're willing to go to accomplish whatever they're trying to do, real life is real.

This is true of karate, but MMA girls don't run, they beat the living fuck out of anyone. If this girl gets in kickboxing she could smash on somebody.

Guns are illegal here.

Get one anyway, or move somewhere that doesn't have strict victim disarmament laws.


Morons on Totse never cease to amaze me. Anyone recommending a woman learn "martial arts" or "karate" to take on a mugger or attacker is fucking retarded. Flat out fucking retarded.

Seriously, the overwhelming majority of women will not be able to over power, much less hold their own against a male attacker.

Even forgetting that men have every single physical advantage over females- 99% of people when confronted by an attacker or real situation where their safety of life is endangered is going to fucking PANIC. Teach a fucking 140lb girl karate for 4 fucking years and have her attacked at night in a city street, she'll shit her fucking pants and adrenaline will make sure everything she's learned about martial art goes out the window in a fraction of a second.... This aint Hollywood you tools. She's not going to karate kick a mugger in the face and walk away victorious, you're suggesting fictional fucking hollywood scenarios to a woman asking a real question.

Listen OP, know the area you're traveling in, constantly be aware of your surroundings, try to avoid traveling alone, and should you ever feel endangered or threatened by someone that confronts you then remove yourself from the situation immediately- run. That's your best option and safest bet to get out of any situation, run, run, run. Trust your gut.

Ignore these retards telling you to face the attacker, even the most renowned self defense instructors in the world will instruct people-both MEN AND WOMEN, that their first and best option when ever confronted with an attacker is to RUN. You have absolutely zero idea of their intentions and the lengths they're willing to go to accomplish whatever they're trying to do, real life is real.

+1

Moving to Weapons & Combat

Meh. Yes and no. She isnt going to stand up and trade shots with Wanderlei Silva, but a good self defense system(Krav Maga) teach fight her way out of a hold and at the very least, stun a crackhead long enough to run away.

Nice percentage, Im glad you are familiar with math. In reality, its nothing but instinctive for a chick to do something like shove her giant pink talons into your eyesockets.

Hell, you can go on youtube and watch chicks knock dudes on their asses.

Pepper and OC spray suck, a cute pink taser would be a better choice if you cant get a gun. Use an illegal firearm to defend yourself and your free life is screwed.

Alright. Take martial arts. If you need help, let us know. Look around as much as you can, take the one that kicks your ass the most.

If anyone tells you not to take martial arts, ignore them. Martial arts will get you fit, help you run, and if you can't run, will help you fight. There is no reason not to take them. They will also increase your situational awareness if they're any good, and improve confidence. That should solve most of your problems, or at least help mitigate them.

Anything else?

I live in chicago the worse place in the U.S.

Chicago is not the worst place in the U.S. ^

OP, Marc Animal Macyoung has some good books on SD, situational awareness, stuff specifically for women etc...

I've lived in some places regularly in the top ten most dangerous or top ten murder cities in the US. Multiples of them. Never have I felt that I lived in the worst place in the US. That said, I have not lived in Detroit.

I've lived in some places regularly in the top ten most dangerous or top ten murder cities in the US. Multiples of them. Never have I felt that I lived in the worst place in the US. That said, I have not lived in Detroit.

Only Eminem can say he survived in Detroit.

Camden NJ is where its at.

Sort of. I'm afraid of going outside at night. I don't live in a bad area really, but I've just heard of too many incidents of people getting bashed/mugged/etc in our area.

Recently I was approached by a crazy drunk, who asked if I wanted to get high with him. I declined, and kept walking. I know it wasn't much, but it's really contributed to my fear of going out at night.

I really want to get over this - as I love the nighttime. Has anyone been in this situation before? What did you do to get over it?

:(



You're a pussy. You aren't gonna get raped nigga. Grow some balls.

Grow some balls.

OP is a female...

OP is a female...

The person you're responding to is projecting. See her picture? Nasty.

Well, I didn't read through anything but the first few posts because, well, I'm a lazy bastard.

But I would suggest a Kimber Guardian Angel or some sort of Fox Labs mace.

OP is a female...


I'm a Female also.

I'm a Female also.

Judging from your profile picture, that's debatable.


You don't live with the OP. You don't work where she works. You can't guarantee her fears aren't founded. If you can't be helpful, feel free to go play in whatever forum you came from or you'll get criticized.

The OP is 14 and a troll. Failure.

Morons on Totse never cease to amaze me. Anyone recommending a woman learn "martial arts" or "karate" to take on a mugger or attacker is fucking retarded. Flat out fucking retarded.

Seriously, the overwhelming majority of women will not be able to over power, much less hold their own against a male attacker.

Even forgetting that men have every single physical advantage over females- 99% of people when confronted by an attacker or real situation where their safety of life is endangered is going to fucking PANIC. Teach a fucking 140lb girl karate for 4 fucking years and have her attacked at night in a city street, she'll shit her fucking pants and adrenaline will make sure everything she's learned about martial art goes out the window in a fraction of a second.... This aint Hollywood you tools. She's not going to karate kick a mugger in the face and walk away victorious, you're suggesting fictional fucking hollywood scenarios to a woman asking a real question.

Listen OP, know the area you're traveling in, constantly be aware of your surroundings, try to avoid traveling alone, and should you ever feel endangered or threatened by someone that confronts you then remove yourself from the situation immediately- run. That's your best option and safest bet to get out of any situation, run, run, run. Trust your gut.

Ignore these retards telling you to face the attacker, even the most renowned self defense instructors in the world will instruct people-both MEN AND WOMEN, that their first and best option when ever confronted with an attacker is to RUN. You have absolutely zero idea of their intentions and the lengths they're willing to go to accomplish whatever they're trying to do, real life is real.

Martial arts training is very useful, it does take a bit of training to be useful though. I would say around 7 years to achieve quite good skills, not that you are useless before that. Thats probably how long it will take to achieve 1st dan in a club which isn't a commercial piece of shit.

A girl I trained with (TKD club) who was probably around 140lb got grabbed by the wrist by an aggressive man in the street and responded by leaning back and kicking (turning kick connecting with the lower shin) the guy in the face. She then ran and wasn't pursued. She later found out he had broken his cheekbone.

I asked her why she did this kick in particular and not any kind of wrist lock or whatever else she had been taught and she said it was just an instinctual, adrenaline fueled response. Training certainly helps you out, its not about remembering set techniques to deal with a situation though. Thats noob training.

Taser?

get a gun.


life >>> law

:mad:

get a gun.


life >>> law

:mad:

what good is life when you have to spend it in a 6x8 for 25 years for manslaughter?

what good is life when you have to spend it in a 6x8 for 25 years for manslaughter?

There is some truth in this.
But you can get out of prison. Not from the grave.
Its a dilemma methinks.

There is some truth in this.
But you can get out of prison. Not from the grave.
Its a dilemma methinks.

oh an i just thought about out and it could be probation to about 15 years for manslaughter. it is very unlikely to get 25 to life for manslaughter.

Good point though.