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Tasers suck. If you're running from the cops and they see you going over a fence, they'll just whip out their taser and paralyze your body (You fall straight on your face)
It's winter time so I'm wondering if anyone knows of any nice thick jackets/vests out there that can stop the prongs of a taser?
I don't want to buy kevlar or anything heavy/expensive. I still need to be able to move and run fast as well because escape is the best defense.
Thanks
They have this but it's sold to law enforcement and military only
http://www.pointblankarmor.com/ThorNEW.html
(informative video)
Faithless
2008-11-30, 04:28
It doesn't seem to matter what clothing you wear. Basically, I think you're earthing the taser. I've seen training videos wear LEOs are wearing different clothing, body armor, etc and they still go down.
Earthing the taser?
LEO's?
What do those mean?
You have any links to the videos?
reggie_love
2008-11-30, 06:16
Law Enforcement Officers
Random_Looney
2008-11-30, 07:43
Earthing/grounding is closing the circuit. You essentially bridge the gap between two electromagnetic potential differences and they normalize. Electrons/"holes" flow from high to low concentration ala the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, making electric current. It just happens to pass through you since your dielectric constant is less that of air, your cells being comprised of mostly water. Oh, and less than that of the potential difference. Breakdown point. Yuck.
Tasers penetrate over an inch of clothing.
The Swede
2008-11-30, 11:06
How about rubber?
Cloaked Dagger
2008-12-01, 06:50
Not that I want to help this asshole as I have a theory he is a theif or other disreputable criminal, but what about have a layer of conductive material in your clothing so that the taser grounds on that around you, instead of through you?
If you are a drug dealer or some other legitimate criminal profession I appoligize.
what else do you deem as "legitimate criminal professions?"
My Name is The Lord
2008-12-01, 09:17
Cloaked Dagger, I rape young men in my clown costume, would you consider that a legit criminal profession?
Jizzmeister
2008-12-01, 16:34
I would suggest wearing a chainmail/chainmaille vest. Admittedly they are heavy (you could probably go for aluminium) and It will probably cost you $60+ to get one, but it would also provide some protection against knives. The chainmail vest would in theory 'short-out' the taser but I'm not 100% sure.
I would suggest wearing a chainmail/chainmaille vest. Admittedly they are heavy (you could probably go for aluminium) and It will probably cost you $60+ to get one, but it would also provide some protection against knives. The chainmail vest would in theory 'short-out' the taser but I'm not 100% sure.
wouldn't a fine copper mesh sandwiched between layers of latex be lighter not to mention cheaper and a better conductor
Freelance Tax Collector
2008-12-01, 19:01
Don't forget to ground yourself. This can best be accomplished by getting an unvarnished metal stake, sticking it into the ground, and then connecting it to said vest with insulated wire. A possible alternative is to connect your vest to a cold water pipe rather than a stake in the ground.
Aces High
2008-12-01, 21:50
Don't forget to ground yourself. This can best be accomplished by getting an unvarnished metal stake, sticking it into the ground, and then connecting it to said vest with insulated wire. A possible alternative is to connect your vest to a cold water pipe rather than a stake in the ground.
Staking yourself to the ground would be pretty much the worst way to run from a cop with a taser.
Thick clothing won't really work.
You need to establish an electrical path with conductive materials so the majority of the electricity will flow through the path of less resistance. I would suggest using some sort of conductive foil sandwiched between two insulators that would have a chance of stopping the prongs itself. A layer of silicon, a layer of steel mesh, a layer of copper foil, and at the bottom a layer of Kevlar would work fairly well. I would also suggest you use a material able to absorb moisture near your skin, because such a vest would be very warm, and the salt water from your sweat would vastly reduce your electrical resistance, making your body a more likely conduit.
Verybigboy18
2008-12-02, 00:59
If someone starts making suits that do that you can bet they will make a lot of money on the street.
Freelance Tax Collector
2008-12-02, 03:31
Staking yourself to the ground would be pretty much the worst way to run from a cop with a taser.
Don't ruin the joke asshole. :D
My Name is The Lord
2008-12-02, 03:45
Look guys the best and only way to avoid taser hits is to not get hit at all. This is very easy if you are agile enough, but I know that many of us in here are actually gun owners because of our lack of agility not in spite of it. When I go on murderous pedophilic rape rampages in my clown suit I always take a twelve foot copper wire with me in my glove. Should you get hit, place the copper wire in to your wound and throw it over the policeman's trapezius muscle. Drops em every time. One time when I got up and the cop was still down I cut her tits off. I'm wearing them as I type this message.
Random_Looney
2008-12-02, 04:15
Am I sick for enjoying both of "My Name is the Lord"'s posts?
blue_monday
2008-12-02, 04:36
Don't worry i laughed long and hard at them too.
Telephoneman
2008-12-02, 07:07
Sew a mesh of copper or cheap metal into the middle of your jacket. That will close the gap before your less conductive body. The Jab from the prongs will just encourage faster running.
ILL-Kayda
2008-12-02, 18:48
wire the vest down ur leg into a pair of trackspikes.
Isn't it enough to just stop them getting stuck in you?
Why bother with all this earthing shit just make sure they don't stick in cause the real pain I would imagine is from the continuous application of electricity. A short shock as they connect and bounce off your back would probably be endurable. Compared at least to continous shocking.
Or wear wellington boots so the elctricity cannot earth and go punch the cop in the face.
Damn tazers, our UK police are getting them now which is complete bullshit as they are illegal for citizens and most cops are fucking retards. That is why they havn't got a nice cushy job somehwere making real money.
Random_Looney
2008-12-02, 22:01
Isn't it enough to just stop them getting stuck in you?
Why bother with all this earthing shit just make sure they don't stick in cause the real pain I would imagine is from the continuous application of electricity. A short shock as they connect and bounce off your back would probably be endurable. Compared at least to continous shocking.
Or wear wellington boots so the elctricity cannot earth and go punch the cop in the face.
You don't get it. First of all, deflecting a taser barb is easier said than done.
Secondly, you don't understand grounding, or how a taser works. The voltage potential is channeled through the taser prongs themselves, and it irrespective to grounding.
hitman legoff
2008-12-02, 22:22
Shove railroad spikes through both of your palms.
I don't know if it'd stop a taser, but it'd be pretty funny.
i poop in your cereal
2008-12-05, 23:05
Law enforcement grade tasers are specifically designed to penetrate pretty much everything, including kevlar.
Or so I read. Your best bet is to not get hit at all, which shouldn't be too difficult...
Generic Box Of Cookies
2008-12-05, 23:15
If you were hardcore enough, you could train yourself to resist electrocution long enough to yank the barbs out. I attempted this with a dog electrocution collar one time. I know it isn't the same thing as a taser, though I got to where I could reduce the pain and twitching by a substantial amount with a little practice.
A cop I know says people yank the barbs out of themselves quite often. More often from the front of their torso than anywhere else, so it is definitely possible to reduce the shock, adrenaline permitting.
reggie_love
2008-12-06, 01:10
^
Enjoy your neuropathy!
Generic Box Of Cookies
2008-12-06, 02:18
^
Enjoy your neuropathy!
Don't think I got zapped that bad. :)
Cloaked Dagger
2008-12-06, 09:04
what else do you deem as "legitimate criminal professions?"
Arms dealer(so long as said arms aren't known to be stolen). Or basically any kind of trade that doesn't involve theft, rape, or murder(note use of the word murder, not killing). For that matter I consider most police as more of a criminal than your average drug dealer.
The Return
2008-12-07, 05:52
Arms dealer(so long as said arms aren't known to be stolen). Or basically any kind of trade that doesn't involve theft, rape, or murder(note use of the word murder, not killing). For that matter I consider most police as more of a criminal than your average drug dealer.
Ooh, aren't you a controversial little cock sucker.
reggie_love
2008-12-07, 06:36
Ooh, aren't you a controversial little cock sucker.
Obligatory "STFU, acolyte"
MasterPython
2008-12-07, 06:52
I remember seeing a stun gun jacket on some tech show, It actually had electrodes on it so you could zap bad guys if they grabbed you. It had rubber in it so you would not get zapped. I don't know if it would work against sharp taser barbs though.
Mort2008
2008-12-08, 19:08
Wear a suit of plywood.
AprenticeChemistBITCHS
2008-12-08, 20:17
If you were hardcore enough, you could train yourself to resist electrocution long enough to yank the barbs out. I attempted this with a dog electrocution collar one time. I know it isn't the same thing as a taser, though I got to where I could reduce the pain and twitching by a substantial amount with a little practice.
A cop I know says people yank the barbs out of themselves quite often. More often from the front of their torso than anywhere else, so it is definitely possible to reduce the shock, adrenaline permitting.
Why in the fuck did you decide it would be a good idea to try to see if you could reduce the pain of getting shocked by a dog collar?
Ok I got an idea. Go buy one of thos milsurp plate carrier vests, fill it in with something suitably rigid, plywood, thin metal sheet or whatever, then test. It would be worth a shot ;).
You don't get it. First of all, deflecting a taser barb is easier said than done.
Secondly, you don't understand grounding, or how a taser works. The voltage potential is channeled through the taser prongs themselves, and it irrespective to grounding.
Yea but don't you think blocking it completely would be better and probably easier than some crazy way of grounding it with wires from your jacked like some fools are suggesting. As you said grounding does not work.
A metal plate on your back would surely stop it.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-16, 03:05
I would say wearing something to deflect the barbs would be your best bet. Chainmail was mentioned before. I would use that, but its so goddam heavy. Your best bet, as has been said before, is not getting hit. Assure this by not being detected by cops at all. Otherwise just sprint and get out of its range.
Or you could wear somekind of big shield on your back.
glorified-plumber
2008-12-16, 03:51
Chainmail wouldn't work. The barbs would penetrate through the holes, leaving you fucked. No Faraday cage, either, since the electricity would be going straight into you.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-16, 13:34
I was thinking of that possibility. Maybe you could get a good one with enough links to have very small holes. Otherwise I agree.
glorified-plumber
2008-12-16, 15:20
The problem with holes small enough to stop a taser barb is that you are either weaving mail to rigid to move in, or two thin to be of use. Plus it would take for ever to make.
The Methematician
2008-12-16, 18:21
Sew a few layers of this :
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2226/2267067186_eed8942729.jpg
together and make them like a breast plate, with thick flexi plastic/hdpe backing......
and if you didn't know what that thing in the pict is...it's coarse stainless steel mesh....
The Return
2008-12-16, 18:28
Dear god, you idiots,
Do any of you have any idea how tiny a taser prong really is? They're smaller than the smallest of needles, perhaps as long as a thumbnail. They're only a little bit thicker than a couple strands of hair. They're propelled via compressed nitrogen, and you can literally see them flying through the air like an airsoft gun. My friend has one of the models from taser international, we played around with it once. A leather jacket over a thick hooded sweatshirt is more than enough to stop one.
fuckinsuckit
2008-12-16, 20:41
Xanaxs work wonders my boss tased a guy in the office he took a couple (thats why we bonded him out poss) and he just walked around the office shaking but he ripped them out and thats when the fun starded the guy was 6'3" 275 yea it was fun
diminished.to.me
2008-12-17, 18:00
Dear god, you idiots,
Do any of you have any idea how tiny a taser prong really is? They're smaller than the smallest of needles, perhaps as long as a thumbnail. They're only a little bit thicker than a couple strands of hair. They're propelled via compressed nitrogen, and you can literally see them flying through the air like an airsoft gun. My friend has one of the models from taser international, we played around with it once. A leather jacket over a thick hooded sweatshirt is more than enough to stop one.
I don't know what kind of taser you had but most taser prongs look more like this...
http://www.portlandcopwatch.org/PPR27/taser27.GIF
The Swede
2008-12-17, 18:16
depends on what brand.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-17, 19:53
depends on what brand.
Apparently, unless the guy is full of shit.
samguy700
2008-12-18, 00:24
it doesent need earthing ironing boards have metal in the material thing on top for some reason but buying something with a double lining then cuttng it open fill with steel wool and sew up to keep in place
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 03:00
I don't know what kind of taser you had but most taser prongs look more like this...
http://www.portlandcopwatch.org/PPR27/taser27.GIF
lol, idiot, you go that picture off of a biased ass crazy motherfucking left-wing website. they put a fake barb on that to demonize tasers. why would they make tasers with a fucking barb? that would require surgical removal you fucking idiot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEABEFR-dgg
watch that video for an example of what ALL taser needles look like.
depends on what brand.
no it does not, all taser pistols use the same nitrogen-cartridge needle design. you guys haven't even held fucking tasers before, why are you talking about them?
you cant show me a taser model (that actually exists) that uses that kind of fish-hook looking shit. damn i'm sick of would-be's.
reggie_love
2008-12-18, 04:07
lol, idiot, you go that picture off of a biased ass crazy motherfucking left-wing website. they put a fake barb on that to demonize tasers. why would they make tasers with a fucking barb? that would require surgical removal you fucking idiot.
My parents were doctors in a shitty part of Oakland and they got criminals coming in for surgical taser prong removal all the time.
I don't know about that picture, but the police use tasers with serious barbs.
NOTE: Some LEO's also use the taser as a "pain compliance tool" where they just use touch the electrodes to the skin to cause pain, rather than shooting the barbs in to cause total incapacitation. That's what they did to the "don't taze me bro" guy. That may be why you don't hear about people with barbs stuck in them.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 04:11
My parents were doctors in a shitty part of Oakland and they got criminals coming in for surgical taser prong removal all the time.
I don't know about that picture, but the police use tasers with serious barbs.
NOTE: Some LEO's also use the taser as a "pain compliance tool" where they just use touch the electrodes to the skin to cause pain, rather than shooting the barbs in to cause total incapacitation. That's what they did to the "don't taze me bro" guy. That may be why you don't hear about people with barbs stuck in them.
God you idiot, no that is not the case, I told you to give me photographic or documents that show these barbs exist. They do not. Most likely, seeing as you live in San Francisco and it is highly likely that your parents are fag-value amero 911-truth left wing homos they probably lied to you, or the patients lied to you. The only taser in use by major police forces today is made by taser international, and if you watch the video I provided the taser needle is smaller than that of a hypodermic needle. God, hath thou forsaken me? Why send me to live with these people, do you not know how uncomfortable it makes me feel to be surrounded with such idiocy? Please, smite me, my Lord.
reggie_love
2008-12-18, 04:18
God you idiot, no that is not the case, I told you to give me photographic or documents that show these barbs exist. They do not. Most likely, seeing as you live in San Francisco and it is highly likely that your parents are fag-value amero 911-truth left wing homos they probably lied to you, or the patients lied to you. The only taser in use by major police forces today is made by taser international, and if you watch the video I provided the taser needle is smaller than that of a hypodermic needle. God, hath thou forsaken me? Why send me to live with these people, do you not know how uncomfortable it makes me feel to be surrounded with such idiocy? Please, smite me, my Lord.
Ah.
Thank you for confirming your troll status.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 04:21
Unthankyou for not admitting you were wrong.
I've noticed you're really quick to call troll, maybe it's because you're afraid of competition. Feel free to add me to your ignore list, join the club, thanks.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-18, 04:40
I was wrong. You're a troll.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 04:42
In case you had not noticed, I'm not who you addressed.
The Leper Messiah
2008-12-18, 05:03
you cant show me a taser model (that actually exists) that uses that kind of fish-hook looking shit. damn i'm sick of would-be's.
One:
http://www.diyselfdefense.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/c2_features.jpg
Two:
http://stungunreviews.tripod.com/imgs/taser-barbs.jpg
Three:
http://www.taser.org/images/projectile-03.jpg
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 05:16
Way to prove my point jackass, those are anything but fish-hook type barbs compare those to the picture "diminished.to.me" posted and get an idea of what I was talking about. Those look like sewing needles compared to the photoshopped picture he posted. And the last one is the taser international model, the same one in the video I posted, learn how to read.
The Leper Messiah
2008-12-18, 05:20
Way to prove my point jackass, those are anything but fish-hook type barbs compare those to the picture "diminished.to.me" posted and get an idea of what I was talking about. Those look like sewing needles compared to the photoshopped picture he posted. And the last one is the taser international model, the same one in the video I posted, learn how to read.
There are "fish hook" barbs on all of those projectiles.
Thanks for confirming that you are a troll. Enjoy your brief stay in W&C.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 05:29
They are not fish hook barbs, they are barbs, when I said "fish hook" I mean the size of fish hooks or even larger, as is the case with the picture "diminished.to.me" posted. Nice try though.
Starsword
2008-12-18, 06:05
They are not fish hook barbs, they are barbs, when I said "fish hook" I mean the size of fish hooks or even larger, as is the case with the picture "diminished.to.me" posted. Nice try though.
Bitch can't admit he was wrong.
Also, I'm pretty sure "fish hook barbs" means "barbs similar to those on a fish hook." I agree though, that one image probably did come from a website trying to demonize tasers.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:06
God you idiot, no that is not the case, I told you to give me photographic or documents that show these barbs exist. They do not. Most likely, seeing as you live in San Francisco and it is highly likely that your parents are fag-value amero 911-truth left wing homos they probably lied to you, or the patients lied to you. The only taser in use by major police forces today is made by taser international, and if you watch the video I provided the taser needle is smaller than that of a hypodermic needle. God, hath thou forsaken me? Why send me to live with these people, do you not know how uncomfortable it makes me feel to be surrounded with such idiocy? Please, smite me, my Lord.
if you don't like it here why don't you goto bad ideas or spurious, they will take your kind with open arms. Then you can be with all of the 'non-idiotic" people.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:08
Way to prove my point jackass, those are anything but fish-hook type barbs compare those to the picture "diminished.to.me" posted and get an idea of what I was talking about. Those look like sewing needles compared to the photoshopped picture he posted. And the last one is the taser international model, the same one in the video I posted, learn how to read.
Keep comforting yourselves assclowns that's that same "there's NO WAY I could ever be wrong" mentality that keeps you from seeing the truth.
Ok moron. this applies to you also.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 06:11
Also, I'm pretty sure "fish hook barbs" means "barbs similar to those on a fish hook.
YEAH!!! JUST LOOK AT THE SIMILARITIES!!
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/19400/19482/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif
That's not a more pronounced barb, one that would cause much more devastating effects if fired in to human flesh at relatively high speeds in the slightest.
http://turtleterror.com/tmp/cache/2d441bc362b3bef00837b1443d8de85de71c6b38.jpg
As you can see, the barbs are not comparable in the slightest. Just watch the video I posted the barbs are virtually non-existent. If they were that aggressive, such as alllooksthesame.to.me and ReggieFranciscoStyleLove claim reporters wouldn't be volunteering to get shot with them nor would the police even consider such a demonstration.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:14
YEAH!!! JUST LOOK AT THE SIMILARITIES!!
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/19400/19482/fish_hook_19482_lg.gif
That's not a more pronounced barb, one that would cause much more devastating effects if fired in to human flesh at relatively high speeds in the slightest.
http://turtleterror.com/tmp/cache/2d441bc362b3bef00837b1443d8de85de71c6b38.jpg
As you can see, the barbs are not comparable in the slightest. Just watch the video I posted the barbs are virtually non-existent. If they were that aggressive, such as alllooksthesame.to.me and ReggieFranciscoStyleLove claim reporters wouldn't be volunteering to get shot with them nor would the police even consider such a demonstration.
Yes a fish hook is a hook. The thing it the TIP is the barb. The fish hook shape is irrelavent, it is the BARB AT THE TIP. the taser prongs have a barb on them just like a fish hook has a barb on it. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BOTH CALLED A BARB. Notice how the taser prongs have a tip on them that is almost exactly the same as the barb on the fish hook.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 06:16
.45ACP and .25ACP are both ACP's, but there is a world of difference between the two.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:21
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/projectile-18.jpg
www.seawear.com/images/fish-hooks/fish-hook-live-bait~101.jpg
.45ACP and .25ACP are both ACP's, but there is a world of difference between the two.Ok whatever, a barb is A BARB just like a bullet is a bullet. a .45 and a .25 are both BULLETS just like a barb on a fish hook and a barb on a taser prong are BOTH BARBS.
god you're stupid arn't you.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 06:27
A barb on a harpoon gun is a barb as well, but you're going to have a hell of a harder time surviving a harpoon than you are a taser or a fish hook. And those taser needles are microscopic compared to fish hooks.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:29
A barb on a harpoon gun is a barb as well, but you're going to have a hell of a harder time surviving a harpoon than you are a taser or a fish hook. And those taser needles are microscopic compared to fish hooks.
Lol, you do realize that there is not one size fish hook right? There are fish hooks with the same size barb as the taser prong. Seriously dude, you were wrong just cut your losses and troll somewhere else.
Keep comforting yourselves assclowns that's that same "there's NO WAY I could ever be wrong" mentality that keeps you from seeing the truth. You said it yourself dumbshit.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 06:31
Lol, you do realize that there is not one size fish hook right? There are fish hooks with the same size barb as the taser prong.
LOL, I'd like you to show me some, are you fishing for tadpoles you retard?
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 06:35
LOL, I'd like you to show me some, are you fishing for tadpoles you retard?
You have never been fishing have you? Lets see i have a 10mm hook right here DUMBASS. the barb on it is 3.15mm. Oh and the barb is .77mm at the barb and .34mm at the tip of the barb.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/projectile-18.jpg This barb is way bigger than that.
Keep comforting yourselves assclowns that's that same "there's NO WAY I could ever be wrong" mentality that keeps you from seeing the truth. You said it yourself
http://cgi.ebay.com/13-pcs-Super-Sharp-10mm-Long-Stainless-Steel-Fish-Hook_W0QQitemZ260332929873QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ200 81215?IMSfp=TL081215114006r30553
You fail. You are the retard here. You try to dig your way out but you just fall deeper. Have a good night idiot.
Edit: i was measuring the wrong barb on a different hook, there is actually a smaller one, the barb is 2.73mm long and .76mm wide at the barb, .09mm at the tip and the whole hook is 10mm
I really enjoyed pointing out how much of a idiot you are. Have a good night.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 06:50
LOL, the more you keep trying to assure yourself and everyone else here that you are right, the more laughable you become. It's obvious you know I'm right lest you wouldn't feel the need to do so. I'm just going to post this picture for your retarded ass, which isn't blown up and up close like the one you keep pasting, so that you may get an idea of how tiny these barbs really are. Now I will reiterate as to what I have said in this thread. Taser barbs do not look anything like the picture dimished.to.me posted. That is fact. Taser barbs are not aggressive in the slightest, nor comparable to fish hooks (the barb isn't half as pronounced, it rests almost parallel to the shaft, unlike the profile of fish hooks). The cross-sectional area of the taser needle is incomparable to that of a fish hook. As for this thread, I will simply post this picture and leave you to chant from your crib.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40715000/jpg/_40715064_taser2_bbc_203.jpg
You are done.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 07:07
LOL, the more you keep trying to assure yourself and everyone else here that you are right, the more laughable you become. It's obvious you know I'm right lest you wouldn't feel the need to do so. I'm just going to post this picture for your retarded ass, which isn't blown up and up close like the one you keep pasting, so that you may get an idea of how tiny these barbs really are. Now I will reiterate as to what I have said in this thread. Taser barbs do not look anything like the picture dimished.to.me posted. That is fact. Taser barbs are not aggressive in the slightest, nor comparable to fish hooks (the barb isn't half as pronounced, it rests almost parallel to the shaft, unlike the profile of fish hooks). The cross-sectional area of the taser needle is incomparable to that of a fish hook. As for this thread, I will simply post this picture and leave you to chant from your crib.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40715000/jpg/_40715064_taser2_bbc_203.jpg
You are done.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w148/rp1111_2007/projectile-18.jpg how is this picture blown up? do you not see his finger next to it? Ok your right, the taser prong has a barb on it? is that what you want to see, because I already COULD SEE FROM MY PICTURE THAT IT HAD A BARB ON IT.
I posted the dimensions of the smallest fish hook I had in my possesion. And the fsh hook I have has a barb atleast the same size, if not smaller.
First you say they don't have barbs, then when you are proven wrong you change your story and try to start saying bullshit like "oh it is not a barb." Seriously just fuck off, you were wrong, cut your loses. Don't sit here and try to sneak your way into making it look like you were right.
The Leper Messiah
2008-12-18, 15:58
Now I will reiterate as to what I have said in this thread. Taser barbs do not look anything like the picture dimished.to.me posted. That is fact.
You are goo here, no one is arguing this.
Taser barbs are not aggressive in the slightest, nor comparable to fish hooks
You got lost here.
Here is a photo of a treble hook with a dime to scale it:
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo99/Virus_/003.jpg
this is one of the numerous pictures that has been posted:
http://www.diyselfdefense.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/c2_features.jpg
The barbs on the taser are probably more pronounced that those on my treble hook. Judging from the picture chronic posted the barbs are nearly identical.
Can all parties now agree that the barbs of a taser and fish hook are very similar?
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 17:28
You are goo here, no one is arguing this.
You got lost here.
Here is a photo of a treble hook with a dime to scale it:
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo99/Virus_/003.jpg
this is one of the numerous pictures that has been posted:
http://www.diyselfdefense.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/c2_features.jpg
The barbs on the taser are probably more pronounced that those on my treble hook. Judging from the picture chronic posted the barbs are nearly identical.
Can all parties now agree that the barbs of a taser and fish hook are very similar?No he cant because he will chage his story again now.
-First it was tasers have NO barbs.
-Then it was "you are proving my point that tasers have barbs"
-then it was "tasers don't have "fishhook" like barbs"
Who knows what it will be next.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-18, 18:52
Wow this went a long way just because of the stupid picture I posted. My bad, I see now that picture was definately photoshopped to make bigger barbs. I didnt know any better =\. Im also kinda relieved that there not as big as I thought.:)
Wow this went a long way just because of the stupid picture I posted. My bad, I see now that picture was definately photoshopped to make bigger barbs. I didnt know any better =\. Im also kinda relieved that there not as big as I thought.:)
Still, I'm guessing something solid, like a plate carrier vest with 1/4" thick wood board or lexan might be enough to stop anything of that nature coming in.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 19:33
Still, I'm guessing something solid, like a plate carrier vest with 1/4" thick wood board or lexan might be enough to stop anything of that nature coming in.
Most certainly, even a leather jacket over a hoodie would do.. These things only travel at about 170fps, they fuck up quite often.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-18, 22:37
Heavy hoodie+ paintball body armor? Thats what Id try, but would the electricity still get to you through direct contact with your clothes?
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 22:40
Nah it wouldn't, they are designed to incapacitate someone via neuromuscular stimulation. It would only incapacitate you if it penetrated tissue and it would only feel extremely uncomfortable if the barbs touched you. If they just contacted your clothing, nothing would happen. Paintball armor would do just fine. B)
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 23:04
It is called Electro-muscular disruption or EMD and it results in Neuro-muscular incapacitation. But you are right it does cause muscle contractions by the involuntary stimulation of motor and sensory nerves.
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 23:13
It is actually Electro-muscular disruption or EMD and it results in Neuro-muscular incapacitation. But you are right it does cause muscle contractions by the involuntary stimulation of motor and sensory nerves.
disruption = stimulation
where do you think the prefix "ne" is derived from in the word "nerve"? neuron perhaps? could that be related to electricity? LOL, you're a dumbass. don't even attempt to get in to an argument with me again.
Random_Looney
2008-12-18, 23:17
The etymologies of neuro, meaning nerve, and elektro, meaning "amber" from which electricity was derived, are not related.
I used the Greek of both.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 23:19
disruption = stimulation
where do you think the prefix "ne" is derived from in the word "nerve"? neuron perhaps? could that be related to electricity? LOL, you're a dumbass. don't even attempt to get in to an argument with me again.
I am not attempting to get into an argument with you, I am simply telling the person you qouted the correct terminology, IIRC you started that argument with me and then kept provoking it.
And 'ne" is not a prefix, nerve is a prefix apparently.
Acronym Definition
NEURO- Nerve (Prefix)
Martian Luger King
2008-12-18, 23:20
Their Greek etymologies mean nothing, I'm talking about their usage in English.
ilovechronic
2008-12-18, 23:24
Their Greek etymologies mean nothing, I'm talking about their usage in English.
well I will fix it for you so you don't have to cry. goto page 8. i unqouted you.
Capn Tenacious
2008-12-20, 03:43
I didn't really read the forum much but I suggest Insulated boots they are about 350 dollars in australia and they stop electricians from being electricuted by stopping the electricty from earthing out you can get insul;ated gloves as well they can be a little heavy but your best bet
ilovechronic
2008-12-20, 03:52
I didn't really read the forum much but I suggest Insulated boots they are about 350 dollars in australia and they stop electricians from being electricuted by stopping the electricty from earthing out you can get insul;ated gloves as well they can be a little heavy but your best bet
Yeah but that is not practical.
Random_Looney
2008-12-20, 13:18
Their Greek etymologies mean nothing, I'm talking about their usage in English.
You may have meant their English connotations, but you used improper prefixes and the term derived, which mean etymologies from either Latin or Greek.I didn't really read the forum much but I suggest Insulated boots they are about 350 dollars in australia and they stop electricians from being electricuted by stopping the electricty from earthing out you can get insul;ated gloves as well they can be a little heavy but your best bet
Won't work.
I didn't really read the forum much but I suggest Insulated boots they are about 350 dollars in australia and they stop electricians from being electricuted by stopping the electricty from earthing out you can get insul;ated gloves as well they can be a little heavy but your best bet
It doesn't work because the two prongs are positive and negative terminals of the same circuit. So in any case the electricity went through you, but it never goes to the ground.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-23, 17:57
It doesn't work because the two prongs are positive and negative terminals of the same circuit. So in any case the electricity went through you, but it never goes to the ground.
So if you stopped it with your clothes, it would complete the circuit through your clothes and not you. But wouldnt it have to leave a charge on something, or does the fact that the circuit is completed eliminate the possibility of something becoming charged?
I just wanna know exactly how this works before I do anything stupid.
IndigoGrover
2008-12-23, 21:42
just wear a PFD, one that cover your whole torso, not those big orange ones with the foam blocks, then put an aviators jacket or flight deck jacket (surplus store) over that. neither conduct electricity, and the outer coat will slow down the prongs while the PFD catches them, and soaks up all of the electricity, if your wearing an old flight deck jacket it may not even get through!:)
So if you stopped it with your clothes, it would complete the circuit through your clothes and not you. But wouldnt it have to leave a charge on something, or does the fact that the circuit is completed eliminate the possibility of something becoming charged?
I just wanna know exactly how this works before I do anything stupid.
Clothes are not conductive, so they prevent the circuit being closed.
diminished.to.me
2008-12-24, 06:18
So therefore, no electrical current actually ends up leaving the prongs at all?
The Swede
2008-12-24, 17:23
In theory, but remember electricity can jump.
In theory, but remember electricity can jump.
It would take a very large current to overcome the resistant of most clothing. For the amounts involved in most tasers, I would say non-conductive materials are enough to stop you closing the circuit.
Remember electricity, like everything, always follows the path of least resistance.
The Methematician
2008-12-26, 05:19
It would take a very large current to overcome the resistant of most clothing. For the amounts involved in most tasers, I would say non-conductive materials are enough to stop you closing the circuit.
Remember electricity, like everything, always follows the path of least resistance.
Which is why stainless steel mesh will do it well.....
After replaying GTA:SA,...I've got another idea..
I was thinking why is that every time you ram another vehicle with a rhino (tank) the other vehicle would blow up....then it occurred to me...REACTIVE ARMOR ,...that's why..
So you can do the same for your anti-tazer armor. Get a steel plate, and make some 2.5inch diameter dimples on them, systematically lined up across the breast plate. Then fill those dimple with plastic explosives or semtexs.
Now everytime your being tazered, the electrical current from the tazer will set off the plastic explosive on you armor, and the dimple-shaped steel plate will direct the explosive force outward, much like a shaped charge.....causing them to blow up outward and away from you,....thus destroying the prongs in the process....
Sophisticated yes....but guaranteed to work too....
reggie_love
2008-12-27, 05:09
Q: How do you spot a horrible idea?
A: If it's prefaced by this:
After replaying GTA:SA,...I've got another idea..
Martian Luger King
2008-12-27, 10:52
Methmetician, if you have a steel plate to begin with, why even bother? Taser prongs cannot even penetrate hoodies let alone metal. Man, why did I ever have to be born in to unity with humankind?