I really hope I'm reading this wrong, right at this current moment I'm reading the Kybalion, and here is a quote from it:

"The Universe is your home, and you shall explore its farthest recesses before the end of Time. You are dwelling in the Infinite Mind of THE ALL, and your possibilities and opportunities are infinite, both in time and space. And at the end of the Grand Cycle of Aeons, when THE ALL shall draw back into itself all of its creations--you will go gladly for you will then be able to know the Whole Truth of being At One with THE ALL. Such is the report of the Illumined--those who have advanced well along The Path."

Am I reading this right? Is this saying everyone will eventually just, dissapear? No longer exist, but yet it says earlier (don't know if I got it in the quote) that your eternal. So I'm confused, I thought everyone was already one with The All, or "GOD" how the heck do we disapear into him, we're already a manifestation of his thought, how do we just go away? I'm confused, someone explain this to me.

I don't know if this helps, but it is very similar to the concept of Nirvana or Moksha. Eventually everyone will break free from the cycle of suffering and reincarnation.

Other than saying that we cannot understand God, I am not sure. I am only part of the way through the Kybalion, If I come up with more while reading it I will see if I can help you out.


Also, you posted the quote twice.

Hmm, well, if you mean by Nirvana that makes since, I was thinking of it we were just of obliterated into nothing. Thank you for explaining it that way, I nearly caused myself a stroke.
And opps, I'll fix the double quote.

I don't know if this helps, but it is very similar to the concept of Nirvana or Moksha. Eventually everyone will break free from the cycle of suffering and reincarnation.

Other than saying that we cannot understand God, I am not sure. I am only part of the way through the Kybalion, If I come up with more while reading it I will see if I can help you out.


Also, you posted the quote twice.

By the way, what chapter are on in the Kybalion, it seems to just list already known stuff just by studying a broad range of Occultist texts. Although, that was one of the points, the texts of Hermes' were scattered and never in one complete text as the Kybalion said. So, my question is, are you getting anything out of this read that you haven't come across before? I'm currently on chapter VII, "The All" in All and haven't gotten anything out of it so far, it's just like a revision, tell me when you come across something new, or interesting, and what your actually getting out of reading it.

I am on Chapter 4. So far everything I have seen I have already read somewhere just worded differently.

Anyways, I will probably have the book finished before the end of the night.

I am on Chapter 4. So far everything I have seen I have already read somewhere just worded differently.

Anyways, I will probably have the book finished before the end of the night.

Well, I'm on chapter 8: Planes of Correspondence, and let's see if you can clear this up for me again,

"But, yet, even the highest of these advanced Beings exist merely as creations of, and in, the Mind of THE ALL, and are subject to the Cosmic Processes and Universal Laws. They are still Mortal. We may call them "gods" if we like, but still they are but the Elder Brethren of the Race,--the advanced souls who have outstripped their brethren, and who have foregone the ecstasy of Absorption by THE ALL, in order to help the race on its upward journey along The Path. But, they belong to the Universe, and are subject to its conditions--they are mortal--and their plane is below that of Absolute Spirit."

Again, still mortal, does it mean mortal in a sense of they (higher beings) will die off and go away eventually, or mortal in a sense compared to The All because they are inferior? Or again, does it just mean mortal as in not yet achieved "nirvana?"

/sigh, sometimes words confuse me...

Edit: I'm stopping at chapter 9 for tonight, tell me how the rest goes for you, or what you picked up from it in experience or knowledge, intellectually or spiritually, etc.

It's like this. A metaphor for the human experience.

First, before the big bang, there is God. That's all there is. Him/her/it, whatever. God kills himself. How? He destroys his wholeness. He is divided by space and time, and explores himself.

Unfortunately ALL of this can be used as a metaphor that fits into a rational and deterministic model for human experience and the workings of the imagination.

There is still hope. Hope that experience differentiates objectively.

Then again I have never read yer book but am quite fond of recycling realities.

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I'd totally suggest reading it, it's Hermetic text that you see throughout all occult studies, it's probably the thing I identify the most with "the truth" of how things are and how they work, I don't see a thing to disagree upon in the text.

In most of my studies I have read that most astral beings are stuck in their place of spiritual existence and cannot advance like humans can. For example I remember someone, I think Lon Milo Duquette, saying that there is an ArchAngel or god called gravity, and working under it are lesser beings which could be called fall, slide, and every other aspect of gravity has an entity looking over it. In other words our modern science only explains how, but does not explain why. I'm not sure if he meant that gravity literally is an entity, and no one has ever bothered to contact it, or he was just making a metaphor to explain the hierarchy and purpose of these spirits.
In Franz Bardon's Initiation into Hermetics he says that because elemental spirits, admittedly not 'gods', are only made up of one element they are unable to transcend their current state and can only be reabsorbed back into their element. Therefor I have a little doubt about all spirits being the same as man, even if we are all nothing more than thoughts of God.

However, according to this text, and mainly the quote you posted, it is making the point that they are just like us but have just advanced further in spiritual development. It is quite obvious though that the 'gods' and spirits are also just thoughts of The All like us. This might have been all they meant or they could literally mean that Michael the Archangel once lived, like us, on the physical plane.

The book had a lot of great information in it. I think I am going to spend quite some time studying it.
I would suggest you read it as well Moonius, its relatively short and you can find it online.

Edit: Directly out of Bardon's book-

"There is one conviction that the magician will win while visiting all the element
organism, namely that however great the intelligence and knowledge of these sprites
may be, they are still composed of one single element, whereas Man represents all
four elements plus the fifth, akasa, the principle of God. Now he will understand why
the Bible says that Man is the most perfect of all beings, created by God in his own
image. This is the reason for the discontent of all the elemental organisms at the sight
of Man’s immortality, toward which all of them feel envy. It is understandable that
each elemental being seeks to obtain immortality, and that the magician is in a
position to bestow such an opportunity on them. "

The Bible, in its original texts, actually says that man was created in the image of the gods and goddesses(Elohim) rather than God(YHVH, if this was ever actually considered a deity by the initiates is debatable. It fits much better the description the Kybalion gives to The All). Which makes this subject even deeper.

I am not sure if what Bardon is saying here is only applicable to elementals or to other astral beings as well.

However, according to this text, and mainly the quote you posted, it is making the point that they are just like us but have just advanced further in spiritual development. It is quite obvious though that the 'gods' and spirits are also just thoughts of The All like us. This might have been all they meant or they could literally mean that Michael the Archangel once lived, like us, on the physical plane.
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This, yeah, the book says they advanced through time and we were on stage four and five for the most part of the ladder, some below on level 3, and some advanced humans on 6.
And other "races" or, entities on other planets are on higher levels than us on the next scale, and some races on other planets even below us on the spiritual growth ladder. Like we are all evolving simultaneously. Very interesting gesture, but if you read The Book of Urantia it actually says a similar thing. (A book believed to be written by aliens that are far more advanced than us spiritually and technologically) and in that book it talks about the rebellion of Lucifer and how it went across many planets and universes like it was an actual battle and they were "beings" not like "entities" and did not seem to be metaphorical at all, at least the way I was reading it, I do believe I read one time Arms Merchant read it before in the recommend reading post?

ha ha ha fools. it's not that big of a deal.

You will meet THE ALL at the end of the path. We are living within a realm of infinite possibilities, walk through the path, and at the End you will experience THE ALL experience(s) (ALL is ONE)

The snake bites its' own tail. Look up Nirvana or Samadhi.

The Sun is in Sagittarius this is perfect.

This, yeah, the book says they advanced through time and we were on stage four and five for the most part of the ladder, some below on level 3, and some advanced humans on 6.
And other "races" or, entities on other planets are on higher levels than us on the next scale, and some races on other planets even below us on the spiritual growth ladder.

I agree with you here, but the Angels and Gods of other cultures seems to serve a very specific function in the universe. Almost as if they are the nature of the universe itself. Please don't confuse the word universe here with The All. They seem to be quite a bit different than just highly advanced beings.

I am probably completely wrong and bais, but it sounds like it is saying, "You will learn as much as you can for a long time. You will do so until the universe collapses"

I like how it says "then THE ALL shall draw back into itself all of its creations" just my opinion I got from that copy paste :)

For some reason just reminds me of the universe rubber band theory.