Precisely. The purpose of life is.
That may be a bit confusing at first glance, but bear with me.

I believe that at some point in all of our lives we are proposed with the following question:
"What is the purpose of life?"
Some people find this question impossible to answer and therefore succumb to a life that they themselves perceive as meaningless. Since our perception is ultimately what solidifies our reality, it becomes just that. Life loses its lustre and is then lived in vain.

What a preposterous proposal to say that nothing matters! To do so is to devoid one's life of its divinity, and to insinuate that all of existence is but a senseless indulgence.
I personally have grown tired of hearing such a ridiculous question. We've had the answer all along. We've just been asking the question incorrectly. In fact, it is a question that needs not to be asked at all. Ultimately asking such a question is the equivalent to asking the purpose of purpose itself.

Life is the purpose.

I agree with Plato that an unquestioned life is a life not worth living, but to question life itself and resolve to an answer of a frivolous nature is defeating not only the purpose, but purpose itself.




I hope this will generate some conversation.. I'm interested in your outlook on this thesis

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.

-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?

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I find your attempt of a response laughable, and even more so the insult of "faggoty" :rolleyes:
Do tell me of the "faggoty" air of my post.

Or how about a legitimate response with an actual opinion? I have at least applied a reasoned argument, all you have done is stepped in to shut me down with no reason but that it is a question as old as time, which is true. All questions in philosophy are. Does this mean that all people should just give up on trying to provide their insight on such questions, and that automatically they are all rendered "laughable"? By that logic the subject of philosophy as a whole would also be laughable.

You don't even argue that I am incorrect..? I would be accepting of disagreements and contemplations. Not outright insults with no justification.

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.

-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?

I suppose the actual instance of life occurring as a whole is an entirely different contemplation that does still apply to the question. An answer that I would not imagine could be conjured up by logic. I have no evidence to back it, but I personally sometimes feel as though we are part of a universal consciousness that is insatiable until every scenario of existing has been exhausted. It sounds very hippy dippy, I know, or as the previous post stated, "faggoty". But even then, the question of how such a consciousness would come to exist still stands.. and that question escapes me.

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills.

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain.

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings.

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate. Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

I'll go ahead and agree with My Name is The Lord on this one. This smells like blatantly romanticized bullshit to me. As for my personal opinion, I'm for the "senseless indulgence" thing you mentioned. Oh yeah, that's right, secularism.

"Since our perception is ultimately what solidifies our reality, it becomes just that. " I'm with you there, but somehow the idea of deliberately changing one's perception on life without any logical reason to (other than it feels good and/or gives your life meaning; I mean in terms of truth/fact) a little disturbing. It seems to be the same stuff religious fanaticism is borne out of.

I like it. The purpose of life truly is just the biological need to eat, sleep, and reproduce-at least that's what I drew out of your post. But then that raises the question of "why me?" on a larger scale than just the individual.
Eat, sleep, reproduce? Those are just things we require to be biologically befined as "living." You're once again robbing something of its purpose by limiting it to something that you can comprehend easily. The oldest truly original "human" action you can take-metaphor. Nothing you can say, not the longest tirade you could espouse upon our ears would ever come close. Neither could I, neither could cannibal hooker. Sorry, did I say metaphor was the oldest human action? Thinking about it, metaphor came second. First came our need to define, and in doing so, "understand." From that arose the very obvious need, the constant nagging in our minds that the short assortment of sounds (and then later letters) we just used to give something meaning...is truly inadequate. So to solve our little dilemma, we must have figured: more words means more meaning! And la tee fuckin dah; metaphor.

If I may, we Michael Bay'd it. MOAR EXPLOSIONS MEENS BETTAR MOVEE! We're still falling for the same fallacies.

Did you see that in her post, she never actually calls life anything but life? The purpose of life is. The first use of life in that sentence is merely the use of those 4 letters so you can understand the topic of the sentence. In leaving the sentence "unfinished," she doesn't fall trap to limiting the unlimited with feeble letters. In that little piece of emptiness between that final "s" and that period, where there stands nothing, it is representative of everything.
-edited in- But now with the pressure of over population, are people losing the meaning of life? This is when we just exist, or find something fun/helpful to put our life's work into in order to feel like we have a purpose.?
Losing the meaning? No, most of us have never had any. It's just, the more we know, we think it will logically bring us closer to understanding everything, to understanding life. We havn't been satisfied yet (never will be with that route) and some are starting to get afraid. Because the more we try to understand, the more we unearth things that are destructive to our existence.

There's a reason that an archetype of 'flawed pride" exists across stories in all cultures. Where we are now, all began when one first human being couldn't accept what they didn't understand, couldn't walk away satisfied. Ecosystems of all sizes regulate themselves, continue moving in a cyclical fashion. Overpopulation happens in nature, it's just that nature usually fixes it...which we've overcome (we believe). The elastic nature of the planet...the way overpopulation would be solved with a solution equivalent in strength and proportion to the problem...Our ass kicking is going to be monumental. Another way WE'RE THE BEST!:D:p Maybe every animal on this planet actually does have the capacity for logical thought in ways we never imagine...Maybe it's just the fact that we were the only ones who couldn't walk away...we held in excess what we still consider to be virtuous today: Pride. What causes wars? Patriotism. What causes wars? Religion. All these animals might have walked away from a life like ours because logically, the cost is too high. A cost we pay in life, and a cost we'll possibly all pay in the most fantastic extinction this Earth has ever seen! One word I can appreciate our invention of right now would be: Expedience. Best word evar. Describes almost everything that's human.

So. What is the meaning of life? The meaning of life is. Answers are so close under our noses sometimes, yet we don't see them. We have to learn that our definition of "answers" is too strict. Until conceding that some things are too infinite (not finite) to be understood (another flawed word), we are deceiving ourselves.

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That was your response to one person trying to express their own personal thought, in efforts to stimulate intellectual discussion. You began with an attempt to insult them, to belittle them, an extremely weak tactic amongst trained debaters.

It speaks to your character.

Not only did you try to insult them, but you used the word "faggoty" (not a real word, just a lazy adjective that people of lower intelligence levels generally like to use). It demonstrates your intolerance, because you seem to think it's an insult to be homosexual.

It speaks to your character.

Despite how short your post is, it still manages to be rife with cliche. It reeks of unoriginality, and as such, I know it won't even be committed to my memory; I'll have forgotten you by tomorrow.

It speaks to your character.

Your name is "My Name is the Lord." I don't even know if I need to say anything for this one, but as I mentioned earlier, sometimes we can't see things that are right under our eyes. Remember how I earlier spoke of humans having an excess of pride? Well some have more than others. Which is why, even though I'm only trying to show you something so that you can learn from it (which makes me better than you in no way whatsoever), I feel you will still lash out, likely with swearing, character attack without basis, intolerant insults, and with no real substance to your argument besides its intimidation. In many ways, like a Michael Bay movie. Your name is perfect for the type of post you just made. You are giving yourself the authority you believe comes with that 4 lettered word, placing yourself above others.

It speaks to your character.

You assign a number to something...34,345,443,545,404...quantify it...which to me seems as though maybe, just maybe you are trying to understand it. You never bash any particular part of her philosophy...you just bash her...so do you indeed understand what she is saying? You also leave yourself invulnerable to criticism (or so it may have seemed) by giving us none of your own ideas on life. You could have respectfully declined to accept her views, and then justify why, by giving us some of your own, but you didn't. I know you're sick of hearing it, but:

IT SPEAKS TO YOUR CHARACTER.

If you want me to leave it at a couple sentences you can consider...

Even if cannibal hookers post is the 34,345,443,545,404th piece of philosophy on life to come from humanity, it is at least original, a new number. Which is a compliment, that she managed to be original even considering all the ideas humanity has ever come up with:)

You, on the other hand said nothing original...all I saw were numbers I've seen over and over again...because everything you said matched something someone had already; to me, you were just a collection of numbers less than 34,345,443,545,404...

It's hard not to sound like your attacking someone when every paragraph starts with you, but it's also hard not to be human, myself being a little upset that you would rather someone BE SILENT than THINK (and encourage others to do the same).

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills.

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain.

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings.

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate. Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

Touche. I actually appreciate this kind of input(although not the insulting aspects that are not necessary). As all philosophy is, this is just theory. I am actually quite anti-religious if I may have come off as otherwise.. well, I suppose more agnostic as implied by my use of divinity. I also agree that how we came to be is probably chance. Your opinion/theory is just as valid, as you are entitled to it.

Ok, I'm sorry. The question escapes you because you are a growing human with an existence crisis and hormonally assaulted emotions that impede your critical thinking skills. You apologize, then proceed to simply insult her again, because she physically can't have the answers, but you can right?

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man. Our brains are nothing more than living organs my friend we will not be conscious when their blood supply is cut off. Consciousness is material, the product of electric impulses in your brain. You contradict yourself. Although the brain is material, in the way we define it, it wouldn't exist without ELECTRICITY, WHICH IS DECIDEDLY IMMATERIAL.

That is where these non-existent concepts such as purpose and the "mind" (which is just another word for brain) originate, they are all material and as insignificant as tree bark. Life is not a purpose it just happened to be, by chance; because of the laws of motion materials just happened to find themselves situated on this planet which eventually became human beings. Tree bark is life...the fact that you consider it insignificant...yes...speaks to your character.

There is not a purpose and there never will be, man will always be mortal and he most likely never will leave this planet, primarily because of this dogmatic existence crisis religious moral-seeking bullshit which distances man from the very intellect we have acquired. The only "purpose" is to exploit that which is around one so that one may procreate. You're a defeatist. Actually wait, you're not. You are the flawed thinking of humanity, if you think EVERYTHING IS SIMPLY AROUND US SO WE CAN EXPLOIT IT. That's why we're headed for ultimate destruction.

Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.YOU A MOMENT BEFORE: Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man.

You are a good metaphor for Christianity.

A man passing off his word as God's, full of hypocritical back handed slaps, gaps in both emotion and reasonable thinking, meaningless apologies, and ultimately self destructive tendencies, as your nihilistic little rant has shown.

Man developed consciousness as his brain evolved beyond that which is observed in any other animal. Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man..

Actually you are wrong. There is a TON of research supporting that Dolphins are actually worthy of the definition of being people. I use people of course in the sense of not a human but someone or something that is aware of itself, is capable of analytical thought, etc.

Actually you are wrong. There is a TON of research supporting that Dolphins are actually worthy of the definition of being people. I use people of course in the sense of not a human but someone or something that is aware of itself, is capable of analytical thought, etc.

Always consider though, it's just research more humans looking for answers conducted. Even though I completely agree with that research, I still must say that we can't believe we understand something just because we observe it long enough, and in more and more intricate ways. Until a human being inhabits the mind of an animal, we can't say for sure what that animal is thinking.

As I said originally, they may be a hell of a lot smarter than us:)

But I don't know, they could be even less so than we believe.

I can't claim to know any better than anyone, but my personal belief is that we are seeing only a sad fraction of what is really going on in animals heads, whatever it may be.

EDIT: Reading that I realized I made a silly assumption. When we inhabit the mind of an animal, if ever, we would know nothing more than we do, because we bring the bias of human consciousness with us. But without it, inhabiting an animals mind would then be "useless" to us, scientifically at least, because animals havn't attempted to reveal all their inner secrets to us yet, why would they without outside influence (which if we bring in the form of our own consciousness, skews the truth of that creatures mind). RUN ON SENTANC3S ROOL

Always consider though, it's just research more humans looking for answers conducted. Even though I completely agree with that research, I still must say that we can't believe we understand something just because we observe it long enough, and in more and more intricate ways. Until a human being inhabits the mind of an animal, we can't say for sure what that animal is thinking.

As I said originally, they may be a hell of a lot smarter than us:)

But I don't know, they could be even less so than we believe.

I can't claim to know any better than anyone, but my personal belief is that we are seeing only a sad fraction of what is really going on in animals heads, whatever it may be.

I couldn't agree more.

I suppose the actual instance of life occurring as a whole is an entirely different contemplation that does still apply to the question. An answer that I would not imagine could be conjured up by logic. I have no evidence to back it, but I personally sometimes feel as though we are part of a universal consciousness that is insatiable until every scenario of existing has been exhausted. It sounds very hippy dippy, I know, or as the previous post stated, "faggoty". But even then, the question of how such a consciousness would come to exist still stands.. and that question escapes me.

We escape that reality by quantifying everything, by thinking that we can quantify everything, that it is the true path to understanding. The cold logic of science, and the flawed logic of most major religions are both just as bad as eachother, but on opposite ends of the spectrum.

Thinking that we can eventually exhaust all possibilities suggests a finite number of possibilities, which brings you back to step one of humanities struggle:) Thou shalt not quantify!:p

Belle, the fact that you value people's character on the internet says a lot about your character.

Belle, the fact that you value people's character on the internet says a lot about your character.

But...if you don't value character over the internet...why are you putting a value to mine, based on the internet? Contradictions...hypocrisies...

Also the fact that you think your character over the internet is different than in real life makes me think:

Why would you want to change your character, your integrity, yourself, just because there is a medium between those who you're communicating with over the internet? Someone of true character, of evolved thinking, wouldn't feel the need to change themselves; to display themselves in any different a way than in real life...because this IS STILL REAL LIFE, even though people claim the internet isn't. It's a PART of real life.

So, who enjoys changing their character in situations that allow it to be done without question?

People of little or no character...hoping not just to look better in others eyes, but to feel better about them self. By insulting others, by belittling them, by "winning" arguments by never really disproving the opposition, just making them look bad. But some see past.

Which is why, even though I'm only trying to show you something so that you can learn from it (which makes me better than you in no way whatsoever), I feel you will still lash out, likely with swearing, character attack without basis, intolerant insults, and with no real substance to your argument besides its intimidation.

I told you that you would attack my character, and since you said nothing else, I'd have to consider that intimidation. You might be wondering how I can so accurately predict human response, and I will tell you in a moment.

Of course, being only human, I made some false assumptions. You demonstrated a clever piece of human intelligence.

You saw that, the more you spoke, the more material I had with which to criticize you. So logically you assumed that the shortest response would leave you the safest from criticism. You believed you could strike the fatal blow by first taking one of the main tenets of my argument, then turning it into the main tenet of your own (while adding your own personal flavor, insult), making it more concise; invulnerable.

You thought that I couldn't argue against myself.

I'm oftentimes happy to argue against myself:)as what more level a playing field do you have? Plus, you can solve your own problems instead of sitting around being miserable about the human race. You'll also save face in future arguments:)

Taking your own criticism positively is a key to personal growth!

So, do you have any of your own arguments to offer me? Because as of right now, everything I pointed out still stands on Page 1...where anyone is free to see that in real debate, intimidation and insult get you nowhere.

If I've contradicted myself here, let me know, as I am always open to what will make me more aware of my own flaws; criticism, which is all I ever wanted to offer you. It may seem destructive at first, but theres a reason people call it constructive criticism. Pride is the only barrier keeping this from being a positive experience for you.

I've said it before...I'm only human...which leaves me open to hurting feelings sometimes. Like right now.

I told you that I'd give you the insight I had, the insight which allowed me to know with what you would respond.

The simpler the mind, the more it behaves like clockwork.

In truth, I underestimated you, but I wasn't far off the mark, was I?

It's laughable that you would insinuate that you have presented any form of argument throughout this thread; all you have done is psychoanalyze me (as popular as psychology is among would be intellectuals and other forms of homosexual) and make meaningless critique of my "character" and how I present myself.

I have presented an argument, that consciousness is material and life has no meaning. Consciousness is material because it derives from biological processes in the brain, namely electricity. Electricity is not immaterial; energy is nothing more than a physical quantity it is material. Would you like to suggest to me that consciousness is derived from anywhere other than the brain or that it is generated through a process that is supernatural or of a spiritual nature?

You say that my way of thinking is what would destroy humanity; nothing could be further from the case it is the exploitation of natural resources that has enabled man to enjoy a more comfortable and opportunistic lifestyle. If mankind had not reached petroleum reserves we would still be dragging plows and riding mules. To suggest that if humanity did anything to the contrary, that would be beneficial for our survival, is laughable.

Ultimately it does not matter how humanity is destroyed, it will be destroyed within the very relatively near future. Even if man could make himself physically immortal, survive the death of a sun that is dangerously nigh the end of it's existence as we know it, terraform and colonize other planets and solar systems; we will never escape the heat-death of the universe and all of the finite matter within it. Ultimately it will not matter what humans achieve, what we do or what we believe because ultimately there will be nothing.

It is unfortunate that you and so many other humans, because of their vain and narcissistic desires to exist forever and exploit and enjoy that which is material are frightened by reality.

What you have suggested is hilariously ironic, that "life is". It is so novel that you cannot fill the gap, you may not want to acknowledge it but even the laws of nature will not allow you to put a word after "is". There is absolutely no point, goal or meaning in human life it is only what you want it to be. You can only fill it with your sick little narcissistic material desires. I want to become a broker on wall street so that I may enjoy luxurious lifestyle with a beautiful voluptuous Iranian wife who will allow me to walk her on a leash around the house and willingly ask me to urinate in her cereal. I want to be able to hire someone to dunk themselves in a vat of boiling oil at their 30th wedding anniversary when I am eighty years old, instead of living in a care home staring at an RCA television set playing country music and jeopardy, dying in a diaper smelling nothing more than pine-sol and and my own feces. I may have filled the gap but it is only the filling of MY gap, in MY material mind, it DOES NOT become the "point" of human existence it simply becomes the point of my life.

And that is it my friend, your life is what you make it. Enjoy it while you can, just imagine how lucky you are to have been given your own shot at role playing.

And as far as far as clockwork goes, you are one of the most condescending, presumptuous insecure individuals on this website. Typical of the most hopelessly optimistic, so insecure; constantly requiring such great reassurance and criticism of that which you could never surmount.

To do so is to devoid one's life of its divinity, and to insinuate that all of existence is but a senseless indulgence.

In this context what does "divinity" mean?

Before I insult you in any way, I'd like to point out that despite the length of my posts, what I'm saying is pertinent at all points in them. So instead of assuming one or the other from the beginning, here's what I've gathered from your response:

Either you've been selectively reading bits and pieces and responding.

Or, you haven't grasped some of the more abstract concepts I've presented, because there are very clear cases of you agreeing with me while at the same time insulting my stance.

Same as I've said in every post about you, you're a hypocrite (that or an idiot), because you can't even seem to agree with yourself.

It's laughable that you would insinuate that you have presented any form of argument throughout this thread; all you have done is psychoanalyze me (as popular as psychology is among would be intellectuals and other forms of homosexual) and make meaningless critique of my "character" and how I present myself. You seem to like laughing:) Laughter is good comfort, an easy way to turn away from things that make you uneasy, uncomfortable. I notice you call me homosexual this time, proper terms in reference to my complaint, but still used as an insult. Clever way of validating while simultaneously degrading me (but still bad debating):). Outside of the internet, people have a difficult time taking you seriously when you're as intolerant a person as you. It's not the laughing kind of "not seriously" though, I know how much you love that! In case you didn't notice, I went paragraph by paragraph through your one post pointing out the hypocrisy and contradiction, one piece of your argument at a time. You brush it off, because those aren't things you can defend, they've already been said. Once again, you fail to validate because you think it will have an effect on me.

I have presented an argument, that consciousness is material and life has no meaning.Thanks for the thesis Consciousness is material because it derives from biological processes in the brain, namely electricity.Electricity AND Chemical processes, hand in hand. Electricity is not immaterial; energy is nothing more than a physical quantity it is material. Would you like to suggest to me that consciousness is derived from anywhere other than the brain or that it is generated through a process that is supernatural or of a spiritual nature? Energy is mass, mass is energy, blah blah. That physical quantity you are expressing is another way of materializing everything. Electricity isn't material, though I already pointed out that it has the potential to be. I think it's folly that we believe that because we can measure something, it becomes material. It becomes "understood". And your little question at the end, I can't claim to know the answer to that, and neither can you. But still you present yourself as though you do.

If you knew ANYTHING about the human brain, you would know that it is still vastly unexplored (in the immaterial sense), and the people the world look to for the best answers admit this. You're are claiming to know more than collective humanity, how cute:). I'm merely of the mind that our brains can't be trivialized in such a fashion. Many things that are now science, were once supernatural. Keeping an open mind to things like collective conscious doesn't do any harm, its simply in the tradition of how EVERYTHING WE KNOW TODAY WAS DISCOVERED. If no one questions what was established, nothing would change. Which is ironic considering your next point.

You say that my way of thinking is what would destroy humanity; nothing could be further from the case it is the exploitation of natural resources that has enabled man to enjoy a more comfortable and opportunistic lifestyle. If mankind had not reached petroleum reserves we would still be dragging plows and riding mules. To suggest that if humanity did anything to the contrary, that would be beneficial for our survival, is laughable.Hahahaha, I will share in your hearty laughter. You won't even entertain ideas to the contrary? You would just laugh and laugh? You know, for not being religious you're acting much in the same manner as I've seen many a bible thumper, when one questions anything written in said book. For hating religion as much as you seem to, all you are doing is perpetuating the exact same mindset that allows religion to exist. That allows tyranny to exist. That allow those who lie in order to control, to never have to worry about being found out. You claim the brilliant flash is superior to the slow burning flame? Why? The cost is so much more. The only defense you offer is it has "enabled man to enjoy a more comfortable and opportunistic lifestyle." When you say man, I know the intention is to say ME. Because if you had been one of the human beings ravaged by the mean that achieves your current end, you might think differently. But you don't consider that, because it is outside of your material world. Which is once again why you're a "perfect" citizen for any Western government. As long as you're happy, you don't care the cost.

Ultimately it does not matter how humanity is destroyed, it will be destroyed within the very relativelyEVERYTHING IS RELATIVE near future. Even if man could make himself physically immortal, survive the death of a sun that is dangerously nigh the end of it's existence as we know it, terraform and colonize other planets and solar systems; we will never escape the heat-death of the universe and all of the finite matter within it. Ultimately it will not matter what humans achieve, what we do or what we believe because ultimately there will be nothing. My bad, you actually are a defeatist. Oh, and the fact that you believe those theories like hmmm, a Christian believes their book...well, enough said. Human Beings have been about a city block from home in this universe (the moon) if you want to look at it in terms you can understand. Think one block sounds like a lot out of the entire Earth? Well I said one block, but never one Earth. Our one block of exploration, if you wanted to break it into the same fraction as what we've explored in the known universe, would be a block out of a hundred trillion Earths. Oops, massive understatement, that hardly covers the fraction of our GALAXY that we've explored. Don't try and pretend that we know when the universe will end. It doesn't make you God. Don't try and fucking tell people it's ending in the"relative near future." Just because you bought into it doesn't mean you have to lead others astray. Science admits that everything it gives you is theory, and you treat it like infallible truth. You just found your own little religion to believe in, so that you can claim you're correct in every argument you are ever in. I know the human race will end, I just don't see the point in forcing it to come sooner than later. Maybe you have a shred of conscience and make your self feel better by saying "Ultimately it will not matter what humans achieve, what we do or what we believe because ultimately there will be nothing." When you tell yourself that, well you can lead any life you want and still feel good about yourself can't you? Is it not the same as:

You can sin all you want, do whatever the fuck you want, so long as you make one quick apology before you die. Nearly the same, except you've removed the one last thing that kept a sense of morals in many people in the world, which is the apologizing part, for fear of going to hell. You rule. Live without consequence. So you have taken the internet to heart! You've learned there is no consequence for anything you say or do here, and would like to believe it true for the rest of the living you do.

It is unfortunate that you and so many other humans, because of their vain and narcissistic desires to exist forever and exploit and enjoy that which is material are frightened by reality. I have no desire to live forever, as a matter of fact I recognize the sanctity of death, and its all important role in balancing life. I'm looking forward to dying, whenever my life so happens to reach that point. I've lived on one end of the spectrum, it will be interesting to feel the other for a few moments (relative), it is as cannibal hooker said before, another experience to be had. Oh look, you've contradicted yourself again as well! Trying to criticize others for being vain and centered on materialism; why, you would have our raping of the earth and each other no other way, because it allows you to live a comfortable and opportunistic lifestyle. Enjoy it:) But don't deny the reality of what it costs others for you to live this way.

What you have suggested is hilariously ironic, that "life is". It is so novel that you cannot fill the gap, you may not want to acknowledge it but even the laws of nature will not allow you to put a word after "is". There is absolutely no point, goal or meaning in human life it is only what you want it to be.So wait, it's nothing but it's something? You are a master of contradiction You can only fill it with your sick little narcissistic material desires. I want to become a broker on wall street so that I may enjoy luxurious lifestyle with a beautiful voluptuous Iranian wife who will allow me to walk her on a leash around the house and willingly ask me to urinate in her cereal. I want to be able to hire a seventeen year old girl to shit on my chest and let me punch her in the vagina with brass knuckles when I am eighty years old, instead of living in a care home. I may have filled the gap but it is only the filling of MY gap, in MY material mind, it DOES NOT become the "point" of human existence it simply becomes the point of my life.Thanks for agreeing entirely, asshole. Laughing again, hopefully at yourself this time. That gap is representative of EVERYTHING, hows that for an abstract concept? This is a big part of what I meant. Your most disgusting and crass little rant is just you agreeing with me, thinking your angering me by "fighting" my point offensively. Good for you. So tell me, was it that you just didn't read what I wrote, or do you still not understand what I was trying to say? That gap is nothing, which is representative of everything, which speaks to the individual human experience of finding your own meaning in all that life is. ANYONE CAN SAY "THE MEANING OF LIFE IS" AND HAVE IT BE TRUTH. Why would I want to put a word after is?...all that becomes is materialism. The exact materialism you keep claiming to despise. Trying to value something as invaluable as life by defining it, imprisoning it to words.

And that is it my friend, your life is what you make it. Enjoy it while you can, just imagine how lucky you are to have been given your own shot at role playing.So you believe in luck hmm? Where does this power for luck come from? Is it supernatural or divine? If you're asking me to ponder this luck, I'm obviously going to come back to you and say:

"Shit, you're right, such incredible chance...against all odds something emerged from essentially nothing, and that proceeded to become everything we know. Makes me wonder if it is really chance...how about you?"

And of course in my imagination, as you so told me to use, I hear you...

"I WONDER ABOUT FUCKING NOTHING, BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ALL THE RIGHT ANSWERS!"

"Well...even if my wondering is never fulfilled..I'll still have enjoyed my life at its end, as I'll have experienced my own personal ideal journey, a life of questions, of philosophy, of learning and sharing, a life with a sense of love and community with those who share the same desires as I. I'm already living that life, and am glad I've realized the trappings of material so young.

Knowing that at least I was one of those who felt the need to continue questioning when others were satisfied, well, it does give me some selfish satisfaction. But I also understand it's necessity in an age of complacence without complaint, acceptance without thought, and living without consequence. Maybe I'll have contributed something to humanity by the time I die. Maybe not.

At least I've found a life where I can be happy without delusion and still have the potential to do some good in the world.

And as far as far as clockwork goes, you are one of the most condescending, presumptuous insecure individuals on this website. Typical of the most hopelessly optimistic, so insecure; constantly requiring such great reassurance and criticism of that which you could never surmount.This is only here because you cannot help but play shot for shot. It doesn't matter if it's true or if it's not, a person like yourself would have included this no matter what they believed.

That is why understanding a persons character becomes oh so important in debating. Had you the character of someone I respect, I might have taken all of that as criticism to consider ways of bettering myself with. But I do not see any reason to respect you, as you demand no respect. Besides, when you say "hopelessly optimistic" it's my turn to tell you that your writing is quite laughable. :)

You're so ironic, I can't believe you're not rusting!

And I'm so puny, it's ironic that I'm actually tall.

But seriously, I can hardly believe how you make the same moronic moves over and over again, even when I explain how they make you look stupid.

When I read "one of the most condescending, presumptuous insecure individuals on this website," the first person that comes to my mind is the one pointing that very presumtuous, condescending, insecure finger... Just like last time, and it's still the same matter of character really. Still just as ironic, well moreso, because you actually show that you understand irony this time around, yet still are ignorant of its prescence.

To close, there are things I could indeed never surmount...

But you sir,

I did indeed mount:)

How's that for homosexual?

the meaning of life is 42. or 43 sometimes. it can be 45 if you try hard enough. almost never is it 41, but sometimes.

you people are in a pointless paradoxical and unprovable debate, and you are getting really mad about it. i realize that this is a frustrating question, but this is something you should have asked yourself when you were 13 and gotten over and beyond it by the time you're 15. this is because, knowing the answer behind "the meaning of life" or however you want to rephrase or simplify it, will not drastically change how you act or live out the rest of your life. all this question does is bring up more specific questions as you start to answer them, and it is a never ending chain of "why".

the meaning of life is 42. or 43 sometimes. it can be 45 if you try hard enough. almost never is it 41, but sometimes.

you people are in a pointless paradoxical and unprovable debate, and you are getting really mad about it. i realize that this is a frustrating question, but this is something you should have asked yourself when you were 13 and gotten over and beyond it by the time you're 15. this is because, knowing the answer behind "the meaning of life" or however you want to rephrase or simplify it, will not drastically change how you act or live out the rest of your life. all this question does is bring up more specific questions as you start to answer them, and it is a never ending chain of "why".

Aha, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy, nicely done. I do understand that this is just my personal philosophy, and in no way am I trying to force it on anyone. I agree that it may not change the way one chooses to live their life, but I often do hear people who sink into depression because they feel like nothing they ever do will ever be of any worth and have a whole general attitude of "why even bother living"
The point that I am trying to make is that the question is a frivolous one as the answer is in the question, or at least from my perspective.

In this context what does "divinity" mean?
I personally am a believer in the cosmological argument for the existence of god. There is motion present in life and for motion it is necessary to have an original force of movement. Therefore there must be an original mover that is unmoved itself. I would label such a force as "god", though I do not think of it as an entity like a person while religion does. I would describe such a force to be divine, and thus our existence.

And as far as far as clockwork goes, you are one of the most condescending, presumptuous insecure individuals on this website. Typical of the most hopelessly optimistic, so insecure; constantly requiring such great reassurance and criticism of that which you could never surmount.

Yes, it's always the optimist who is hopeless, rather than the pessimist. :rolleyes:

Are you a little horny?

Are you a little horny?

Crap like this doesn't belong in Humanities. Do not derail the thread into a name calling competition.

Precisely. The purpose of life is.

Tell me something I don't know. Life just is. There aren't any questions and there aren't any answers. Wrap your mind around that, but I'm sure you have.

To sum up life in one word - it's. We just aren't in any position to perceive truth. We have a place in the order of "things", but I bet bacteria living inside your mouth don't know what's going on or understand their roll in life. They view brushing your teeth as a big Godly storm. Seriously, watch South Park's Lice Capades, it opened my eyes lol.

I have at least applied a reasoned argument

However, this makes me laugh. There isn't any reason or logic when we can't even comprehend the forces that created our own existence.

There aren't any questions and there aren't any answers.

Other animals are not self-aware as their brains haven't even come close to evolving to the level of man.

Just because we happen to be self-aware does not make us any more important, divine or eternal than a common flea.

Woah, woah, woah! How can you possibly sit there and claim that every other organism on this rock couldn't possibly be self-aware? Maybe man is cursed with deep thinking, whereas all other organisms acknowledge their own existence but can't second guess it, so they accept it for what it is.

I agree with the second part about the flea. Everything has its purpose and place.

We sense one-millionth of true reality, man. We couldn't possibly see the bigger picture without further evolution and discovery. Maybe that's what our species is striving for.

I just get absolutely infuriated when I hear someone say the space program is pointless and a waste of resources. Or the people that go, "Oh Noz! Teh LHC will engulf our planet in a black hole! We must stop it!" These people are absolute clueless fuckwits and do not benefit their species in any way by opening their mouths. Without acquiring further understanding of the forces which shape our world, our species is doomed. We don't have any God-given protection in this world except the ability to think ahead and use tools appropriately. Our technology is the only buffer we have between survival and extinction.

The world is constantly changing. We need to change and grow with it - adapt.

Woah, woah, woah! How can you possibly sit there and claim that every other organism on this rock couldn't possibly be self-aware? Maybe man is cursed with deep thinking, whereas all other organisms acknowledge their own existence but can't second guess it, so they accept it for what it is.

I agree with the second part about the flea. Everything has its purpose and place.

We sense one-millionth of true reality, man. We couldn't possibly see the bigger picture without further evolution and discovery. Maybe that's what our species is striving for.

I just get absolutely infuriated when I hear someone say the space program is pointless and a waste of resources. Or the people that go, "Oh Noz! Teh LHC will engulf our planet in a black hole! We must stop it!" These people are absolute clueless fuckwits and do not benefit their species in any way by opening their mouths. Without acquiring further understanding of the forces which shape our world, our species is doomed. We don't have any God-given protection in this world except the ability to think ahead and use tools appropriately. Our technology is the only buffer we have between survival and extinction.

The world is constantly changing. We need to change and grow with it - adapt.

The final two sentences you post are interesting to think about.

If you look at the concept of adaptation, humans and other animals are divided on opposite sides of a figurative line.
An animals most readily available form of action (they seem to believe), is to change themselves to meet the challenges of their environment. These changes are observed generation after generation until it becomes a part of their very nature; the process of evolution. Long slow change.

Humans change the environment to suit themselves, removing or shielding ourselves from natural obstacles, so that in many ways we don't know how to confront them, only hide from them. Fast, drastic change. It has nothing to do with us changing at all. We have evolved in only the most negligible ways in the last 5000 years. Basically nothing about us has changed physiologically, we just get better and better at molding our environments to suit our needs.

The deeper into this civilization we retreat, the more true it seems to become. Western medicine is in many ways based upon the same tactic of covering up, rather than addressing the root of an issue itself. It's the band-aid, the cast, the anti-depressants. In some cases it seems to work, but in others...

Some people think our God-given protection (aside from what you specified) is the ability to throw. Yes, throw. We aren't particularly fast, we don't have fearsome claws, no shredding fangs...What else would have allowed us to be successful at hunting, aside from our intelligence? The ability to close the gap between ourselves and our prey quickly and without their knowledge. Luckily our bodies are actually designed to be able to throw:D Did we figure out the need and then proceed to evolve? Or did we notice we had the ability, and then figure out how to use what we were given? Hm...

As for the bigger picture, I think that is indeed what was and still does drive a great many of us to explore and discover. I just think it's a vain ideal to want to understand everything. We can't wait to be God, and it's not going to happen.

However, this makes me laugh. There isn't any reason or logic when we can't even comprehend the forces that created our own existence.

There aren't any questions and there aren't any answers.

Saying "the purpose of life is" renders both the question useless, and the answer infinite (which isn't considered an answer to humanity, in terms of science).

This statement makes mockery of logic and reason by using the contrivances of man to admit our own limitation in terms of...well...our contrivances, our creations only designed to help us "understand" the world.

That is how I personally view the statement, but I suppose as those are just words, they are open to the infinite interpretation of humanity...thus both agreeing and disagreeing with it are the same thing to me:)

Woah, woah, woah! How can you possibly sit there and claim that every other organism on this rock couldn't possibly be self-aware? Maybe man is cursed with deep thinking, whereas all other organisms acknowledge their own existence but can't second guess it, so they accept it for what it is.


It's simply true. No cat knows what it's name is given by the owner; it simply responds the the same vocal patterns over and over until it becomes routine. The cat never knows that it's name is "nature's doormat" it simply responds to what is routine. I know that my name is Osama Bin Laden, I would not respond to being called "nature's doormat" because I know that I am not a doormat; I am self aware. Despite what OP said; there is no evidence that animals (nonhuman) are self-aware, only that they may have the capacity for self-awareness and even then it's just one of those studies that comes out for novelty purposes, something that might justify the plot of a Disney movie someday or something.

I don't know about anyone else but I sense all of reality, for I am Lord.

It's simply true. No cat knows what it's name is given by the owner; it simply responds the the same vocal patterns over and over until it becomes routine. The cat never knows that it's name is "nature's doormat" it simply responds to what is routine. I know that my name is Osama Bin Laden, I would not respond to being called "nature's doormat" because I know that I am not a doormat; I am self aware. Despite what OP said; there is no evidence that animals (nonhuman) are self-aware, only that they may have the capacity for self-awareness and even then it's just one of those studies that comes out for novelty purposes, something that might justify the plot of a Disney movie someday or something.

I don't know about anyone else but I sense all of reality, for I am Lord.

"They may have the capacity for self-awareness." To say that and then not even entertain the idea is ignorant.

Besides, there have been studies that have shown as far as we can tell, dolphins meet more of the criteria for being considered a "person" than many human beings do.

I didn't read what you posted there, but I'm sure it was severely gay. B)

It's simply true. No cat knows what it's name is given by the owner; it simply responds the the same vocal patterns over and over until it becomes routine. The cat never knows that it's name is "nature's doormat" it simply responds to what is routine. I know that my name is Osama Bin Laden, I would not respond to being called "nature's doormat" because I know that I am not a doormat; I am self aware.



All that proves is that cats aren't human not that they aren't self aware. For instance if an alien came down and started speaking gibberish and you couldn't understand or reply would that remove your self awareness? Now I'm not saying that a cat is self aware, no one knows yet.

It's simply true. No cat knows what it's name is given by the owner; it simply responds the the same vocal patterns over and over until it becomes routine. The cat never knows that it's name is "nature's doormat" it simply responds to what is routine. I know that my name is Osama Bin Laden, I would not respond to being called "nature's doormat" because I know that I am not a doormat; I am self aware. Despite what OP said; there is no evidence that animals (nonhuman) are self-aware, only that they may have the capacity for self-awareness and even then it's just one of those studies that comes out for novelty purposes, something that might justify the plot of a Disney movie someday or something.

I don't know about anyone else but I sense all of reality, for I am Lord.
:confused:There is no evidence? I have read evidence done by actual scientists. You probably didn't even look into such research existing before making the statement that it doesn't exist.

I didn't read what you posted there, but I'm sure it was severely gay. B)

I enjoy how you still resort to homosexuality as an insult, rather than making a legitimate rebuttal. Pointing fingers and calling someone gay does not discredit them and is injuring your argument, not helping it. Apparently "The Lord" has the maturity of a child and would be more suited to spending his time watching Disney movies than comparing reality to them.

All that proves is that cats aren't human not that they aren't self aware. For instance if an alien came down and started speaking gibberish and you couldn't understand or reply would that remove your self awareness? Now I'm not saying that a cat is self aware, no one knows yet.

No it would not as I would not have a clue what the aliens were saying. A cat cannot even comprehend the idea of communicable language. Furthermore if an alien species was intelligent enough to make it to Earth before we made it to them; traveling incomprehensible distances that would take man millions of years to commute, I would assume they would be intelligent enough not to speak gibberish to us, as we both know that we cannot understand the dialect of one another.

We know that these pea brain animals are not self-aware. A self-aware being would not eat it's own shit (any jackass/tubgirl/1cup references will be ignored). All cats have the same mannerisms, they meow the same, stretch their legs the same way, have the same sex over and over, fight the same, etc. They have no personalities, they cannot be self aware. I'm not even going to argue this anymore because I am God, I could sit there and argue with someone that the corpse of Madeleine McCann in is Emeril Lagasse's basement, it would only be a waste of time to talk to someone who would say it could be so. Philosophy is fucking gay anyway you cannot argue it with the majority of the population and that is why fudgepackers like Belle here just resort to psychoanalyzing everyone and telling the whole world what they think their "next move" will be, as if anyone could give a flying fuck.

I didn't read what you posted there, but I'm sure it was severely gay. B)

I warned you, and now you're posting this crap in other threads too.

No it would not as I would not have a clue what the aliens were saying. A cat cannot even comprehend the idea of communicable language. Furthermore if an alien species was intelligent enough to make it to Earth before we made it to them; traveling incomprehensible distances that would take man millions of years to commute, I would assume they would be intelligent enough not to speak gibberish to us, as we both know that we cannot understand the dialect of one another.

We know that these pea brain animals are not self-aware. A self-aware being would not eat it's own shit (any jackass/tubgirl/1cup references will be ignored). All cats have the same mannerisms, they meow the same, stretch their legs the same way, have the same sex over and over, fight the same, etc. They have no personalities, they cannot be self aware. I'm not even going to argue this anymore because I am God, I could sit there and argue with someone that the corpse of Madeleine McCann in is Emeril Lagasse's basement, it would only be a waste of time to talk to someone who would say it could be so. Philosophy is fucking gay anyway you cannot argue it with the majority of the population and that is why fudgepackers like Belle here just resort to psychoanalyzing everyone and telling the whole world what they think their "next move" will be, as if anyone could give a flying fuck.

Curious how a cat would purr, hiss, and meow at appropriate times. That is utilizing a communicable language. Cats most definitely do have distinctive personalities, I even know that from personal experience. I have owned extremely affectionate cats and cats who scratch me if I even try to pet them. That is a glaring difference in their perceptions of affection.

Oh yes, resorting to psychoanalyzing people is much lower than continually resorting to name calling when repeatedly told how immature of an insult it is to question someone's sexuality, and then continuing to use such an "insult" repeatedly. You're even stepping in and calling an intangible subject like PHILOSOPHY gay, something incapable of even having a sexual orientation. When you call things gay we think less of you, not who you are arguing against. You call yourself god? How incredibly arrogant. Please refrain from posting any longer. You are just trying to justify yourself when you have clearly been proven wrong and are just disregarding the evidence.
The fact that you cannot argue philosophy with the majority of the population does not make it frivolous, it is a sad truth that our society is ill educated and apathetic. That is like saying that no one can grasp quantum physics, therefore it doesn't matter. No need to expand our knowledge, just disregard that which takes effort to understand.

I always thought the purpose of life was to find the purpose of life. This however is impossible, for no matter what you think someone will always have an opinion or fact that negatively affects your opinion. Therefore the purpose of life is to find the purpose of life, for if we did not have life there would be no purpose. The purpose of life is life.

Also you are probably realizing now all the negative posts do not agree with your theory, therefore it cannot be true unless you have uniformed agreement, which out of the human mind and how we think will never happen.

to annoy as many people as possible via the internet.

DT

Oh come on now, Lord. You know damn well cats are capable of basic communication. They meow when they're hungry, purr when they're content, hiss when they're threatened. I suppose next you're going to tell me birds aren't capable of communication because all they do is chirp. If you spend enough time camping and adventuring outdoors, you'll see the awareness plain as day in many animal's eyes. To be connected to reality through one or more senses is to have awareness.

Listening to birds singing is wonderful. Those bastards are straight up having a conversation over miles of distance. It's amazing.

It's simply true. No cat knows what it's name is given by the owner; it simply responds the the same vocal patterns over and over until it becomes routine. The cat never knows that it's name is "nature's doormat" it simply responds to what is routine. I know that my name is Osama Bin Laden, I would not respond to being called "nature's doormat" because I know that I am not a doormat; I am self aware. Despite what OP said; there is no evidence that animals (nonhuman) are self-aware, only that they may have the capacity for self-awareness and even then it's just one of those studies that comes out for novelty purposes, something that might justify the plot of a Disney movie someday or something.

I don't know about anyone else but I sense all of reality, for I am Lord.

so any speech pattern given by a human is objectively understood by any species on earth? how do you know that everytime a cat meows at you it isnt calling you the cat equivalent of "piece of shit" and you respond to it out of routine. self-awareness isnt black and white

The cats are conditioned to meow when they want food. Buy yeah, animals can talk to each other. Maybe not a distinguished language, but you can sure tell when a cat is pissed.

I always thought the purpose of life was to find the purpose of life. This however is impossible, for no matter what you think someone will always have an opinion or fact that negatively affects your opinion. Therefore the purpose of life is to find the purpose of life, for if we did not have life there would be no purpose. The purpose of life is life.

Also you are probably realizing now all the negative posts do not agree with your theory, therefore it cannot be true unless you have uniformed agreement, which out of the human mind and how we think will never happen.
In philosophy that is not possible. There will never be uniform agreement with one theory, which is why we have philosophy in the first place. Just because someone disagrees does not automatically make me wrong. People have incorrect opinions all the time.

As previously stated, this is indeed a personal philosophy and I don't expect many people to agree with me. I'm not sure that you realize it, but you actually just fundamentally agreed with me. The whole point of my thesis was that the purpose of life is life. Then you tell me that I am wrong yet repeat it back to me? :confused:

Whatever it is, it's beyond the scope of our ability of understanding. Possibly a part of some bigger picture, like cells to a bigger organism. But still, you're individual life is still is so insigificant that it's pointless.

Precisely. The purpose of life is.
That may be a bit confusing at first glance, but bear with me.

I believe that at some point in all of our lives we are proposed with the following question:
"What is the purpose of life?"
Some people find this question impossible to answer and therefore succumb to a life that they themselves perceive as meaningless. Since our perception is ultimately what solidifies our reality, it becomes just that. Life loses its lustre and is then lived in vain.

What a preposterous proposal to say that nothing matters! To do so is to devoid one's life of its divinity, and to insinuate that all of existence is but a senseless indulgence.
I personally have grown tired of hearing such a ridiculous question. We've had the answer all along. We've just been asking the question incorrectly. In fact, it is a question that needs not to be asked at all. Ultimately asking such a question is the equivalent to asking the purpose of purpose itself.

Life is the purpose.

I agree with Plato that an unquestioned life is a life not worth living, but to question life itself and resolve to an answer of a frivolous nature is defeating not only the purpose, but purpose itself.




I hope this will generate some conversation.. I'm interested in your outlook on this thesis


That was nice, to read. but then i saw your handle....:D

The cats are conditioned to meow when they want food. Buy yeah, animals can talk to each other. Maybe not a distinguished language, but you can sure tell when a cat is pissed.

Not my cat :( he killed my neighbors dog.....

he wasnt even hungry, i gave him 2 cans of dog food before he left for the morning:confused:

The cats are conditioned to meow when they want food. Buy yeah, animals can talk to each other. Maybe not a distinguished language, but you can sure tell when a cat is pissed.

On the contrary, I imagine it is us who is conditioned to feed the cat from them meowing. They learned an effective way to get us to feed them on command. They notify us, we hear them meow and make the connection that they want food. We didn't really teach them that they have to meow or else they won't get food. Or maybe it's a mutual conditioning.. but you know what they say, your cat owns you..

Cannibal Hooker and Belle are good examples of why we should keep women/queers off the internet.

Cannibal Hooker and Belle are good examples of why we should keep women/queers off the internet.

And you are a good example of someone who doesn't actually have anything to contribute but just posts because he wants to troll.

You no like, you no buy, put me on your ignore list if you don't like what I have to say.

It must fist be spoken of the shell, the appearance of the vastness of the deep, before the student immerses oneself into the ocean of compassion. But one must gain a glimpse of the truth of it, lest misery be faced.

“What of this shell,” thou may inquire, “What of this appearance?” This finite body, these cities of decadence, these minds of urine; oh no it did not start here mind you. This is the cross of matter and spirit, of body and mind, within the finite is the infinite mind. For every soul is but a drop of the divine joy of the Eternal Father. To all but the mystic, this drink is left un-drunk.

“How do I find this divine wine? I wish to have my fix.” Do not rush young child, quiet your mind and look within, betwixt all things, beyond these influential waves and into thou being. Bask in the virtue of silence, listen to the static and let your body fall away, but do not let thou mind astray.

The sky gods clash, to death they fight and with the new season they are birthed again. And the creatures of the nether, they speak nothing but truth. They feed off your anger, your leaks and cracks, that which cannot be held, they molest and shoot three times back. Put down thou sword and embrace this fiend. Examine and love, accept and learn of this being. Treat him with respect, treat him as an equal, put him within thou gut, let him return to his loving abode.

Ah yes my child, develop your self control. Take no heed to the negativity of others. Your will power must grow strong. The undisciplined whims and ill-formed thoughts of others must not divert you from thou path, they will hamper your drive and distort thou cause. What potential do you hold?

Fly to the heavens, and listen to the celestial trumpets. The angelic orchestra beckons, listen to the music of the spheres, take heed of their guidance. You have more wisdom than you could ever have imagined. Write down the inspiration of the whispering angels, and pursue the ideas through to the end. Nervous art thou? It must be ignored, for it will only hamper your drive, and sully your overall success.

From the lower spheres of the Kosmic infinity, grasp hold of the powers of Earth and let it be with you. Stabilize the mind space. Create a fertile landscape for the plants, animals, and fungi to incarnate within. Productivity will be promoted. Allow your ideas to reach full fruition. It all begins with intuition.

To the soiled mind, veiled to the love and the light which it once was, your true nature is forgotten, in abysmal ignorance and abandon you bask. You say there is no God, no order in the chaos, no higher intelligence, laughing and smiling and crying upon his beloved children. You say there is no Jesus. “He was not a man, He never existed.” Even if the man never walked upon this sphere of Fire, water, wind, and land, to say he does not exist is to refuse to open thou eye and see that his light has never left thou side. You ignore the higher nature of the infinity you are, the infinity you have always been. The ideal above all sin.

“Drugged out hippy, poetic faggotry, just another moron with a computer.” You cannot bring me down, it takes two to play that game. I shall not succumb to pathetic insults, and surface combing arguing. It is a choice, and I will overcome, I will be at piece. I will develop the necessary skills important to my path, and I will master them, I will excel. I will be at peace. My laziness will be banished as I learn who I am. I WILL SUCCEED AND PEACE WILL BE WITH ME.

Jesus and I, ecstatic smiles and fingers entwined, ascend we shall, into the torsion sky’s of infinite mind. From the branches and into the divine tree, I merge with one.
Being/Consciousness/Bliss I AM the Light and the Love of the One Infinite Creator.

The purpose of life is what you make of it. My purpose is the pursuit of happiness with out negatively impacting the happiness of those around me.

The purpose of life is..


to make babies, an make the world a better place for those babies.

To sit around and write psuedo-philosophical meanings of life.

No, but seriously, if we take evolution as a given truth then our purpose is entirely the same as any other animal, assuming you subtract the abstract layer of the ability to rationalise and possess enough cognitive capacity to engauge in such a debate of purpose, that is.

So what are we left with? any kind of objective purpose? I would say that our purpose is to prolong our own lives in order to reproduce as long as possible. And, as we have already seen with evolution, to eventually create a perfect species.

Consume. Reproduce. Await further instruction