Seriously lets look at what we've got.

Emo/Screamo
new rave (ever seen nathan barley)
indie
really shit metal
grime (personally I like, but it's completely drowned out by all the other crap)

God I wish I was in the 90s

There's only been like three albums I've enjoyed the entire decade.

Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree
Original Pirate Material by The Streets
The Illusion of Safety by Thrice

And that's pretty much it.

Plenty of good ska and punk still being made.

Blake Schwarzenbach (Jawbreaker, Jets To Brazil) is starting up a new band. Can't wait.

Interpol, Muse are both pretty kick arse.

I was trying to think of a new band that came out this decade that I really liked, but I just haven't yet.
I'm only 24, I'm too young to be saying "well music back in MY day....." There's got to be something.

I'm only 24, I'm too young to be saying "well music back in MY day....."

Im 17 and I find myself saying that sometimes.

Interpol, Muse are both pretty kick arse.
both are awesome bands!

Dub fucking step

Nickleback, and the shit ton of bands that sound exactly the same, yet somehow manage to be better because they are, in fact, not Nickleback.

Nickleback, and the shit ton of bands that sound exactly the same, yet somehow manage to be better because they are, in fact, not Nickleback.

This.

I was listening to black stone cherry the other week. though they were pretty cool. Until I realised thed lead singer sounds like scott stapp and eddie vedder. Eddie is cool, but scot stapp? what a douche. Black Stone are stillgood however, but when I think of Scott Stapp it pains me.

Drop Kick Murphys and Flogging Molly are still putting out awesome stuff.

Oh yeah I forgot about muse, but seriously nickleback? how long has the media been trying to push that shit, only a week ago i saw an advert for their latest album or whatever, and in my whole life I've known 1 person who actually bought one of their CDs, and he was 12.

Oh yeah I forgot about muse, but seriously nickleback? how long has the media been trying to push that shit, only a week ago i saw an advert for their latest album or whatever, and in my whole life I've known 1 person who actually bought one of their CDs, and he was 12.

Nickleback are Hard Arse, as in, they like it hard in the arse :cool:

Muse are great. I've got all their albums, Need to listen to the older stuff a bit more.

There's been some good stoner/doom metal releases. There's been some pretty good metal albums released, but they're pretty far between though.

An overwhelming majority of the good music made this decade was made by the bands started in the 90s.

new reggae my friend, rebelution, tribal seeds, the expendables, passafire, and many more. we are in the new reggae outbreak if youre still in the dark

haha, "new reggae", the 70's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like depeche mode

haha, "new reggae", the 70's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like depeche mode

haha, "depeche mode", the 90's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like dubstep

haha, "depeche mode", the 90's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like dubstep

haha, "dubstep", the 00s are almost over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like millionaires (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfWnIid5J8)

like millionaires (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfWnIid5J8)

Thats like Sherri Moon on coke cloned thrice. Wow.

millionaires (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfWnIid5J8)



fucking love it


thumbs up

We got the return of Rick Astley.

haha, "depeche mode", the 90's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like dubstep

lol, I thought they were 80's

haha, "new reggae", the 70's are over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like depeche mode

depeche mode is just not my tunes man.
and that alcohol video made me sad...

Some great bands that started this decade:

Faunts
65daysofstatic
Dismantled
Silversun Pickups

Also, Muse and Interpol formed in the 90's.

Gnarls Barkley is one of my favorite bands of all time. They started in 03.

I would say some cool metal bands have came out now adays, ala pig destroyer, mastadon, and shit like that.

The streets with mike skinner is pretty rad too. I like interpol , MGMT, and the silver sun pickups

There are a few scattered punk bands that are really cool, and I liked Damien Marley's album a lot. Oh, and the new Streetlight Manifesto CD is fucking tits. There's good stuff out there, not necessarily up on Billboard.

But the sad thing is, we'll be remembered for bland, disposable pop, shitty ringtone rap, and Brokencyde*.


*God help us...

Does all this shit being marketed for pre-teens and teens actually count as music?

Gnarls Barkley is one of my favorite bands of all time. They started in 03.

Meh, he made 1 or 2 good songs, his shit's actually quite classy most of the time.

.....ng is, we'll be remembered for bland, disposable pop, shitty ringtone rap, and Brokencyde*.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HMogp86cI

I cant help it, i fucking love this song

Nine Inch Nails had some good releases this decade....

The white stripes

MSI

I could even think of a few more, Today there is just SO much stuff out there of course there is more crap, just have to dig harder for the gold :)

Nine Inch Nails had some good releases this decade....

Meh, none of which compare to what was released pre 2000.

With Teeth - Lame
Year Zero - Pretty Good
Ghosts - Awesome if you're in the mood for it
The Slip - Decent

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HMogp86cI

I cant help it, i fucking love this song

Goddammit.

Not very much this year....

AC/DCs new one...Motorhead's new one...Saxon kicked arse when they backed up Motorhead at the Hammersmith Apollo last month....That's about it for me.

God I wish I was old enough to have partied in the 80's metal scenes.

God I wish I was old enough to have partied in the 80's metal scenes.

This.

Some great bands that started this decade:

Faunts
65daysofstatic
Dismantled
Silversun Pickups

Also, Muse and Interpol formed in the 90's.

Yes, however, they gained commercial recognition in the 00's

Er...

The Bling Bling Gangsta Era In Hip Hop?

Developments in metal and that whole emo screamo crap, as was stated.... bloody scene kids, even though emo was developed in 1985 by rites of spring...

Part of UK garage really taking off... then coming down again.. then coming up again recently...

Music getting louder and louder (by which I mean, reduced microdynamics)

Ooo oooo... Illegal music download became big :D

Nu/Urban Rnb went seriously (and annoyingly) mainstream

Youtube music videos

... hmmm... can't tihnk of much else that hasnt been stated on the OP...

MWAH XXXX

Green day bitches!

Bands I really really like that have been formed post-2000

Arctic Monkeys
Velvet Revolver (although they've only released one decent album)
The Libertines
Kasabian (Live only)
Dr Rubberfunk
Dirty Pretty Things (again only one decent album)
Chicane
Adequate Seven

Not really much.

Bands I really really like that have been formed post-2000

Arctic Monkeys
Velvet Revolver (although they've only released one decent album)
The Libertines
Kasabian (Live only)
Dr Rubberfunk
Dirty Pretty Things (again only one decent album)
Chicane
Adequate Seven

Not really much.

indie shit

Green day bitches!

jesus of suburbia ... made me cry, i moved out when i was 14

indie shit

Only two, possibly three of those bands, would be considered indie and they are the few that rose above the mountains of mediocre indie drivel and were decent bands.

jesus of suburbia ... made me cry, i moved out when i was 14

Oh wait, you were moved to tears by Greenday. You're officially not allowed an opinion anymore.

Music died after the late 80's early 90's

Post-genre music.

Callisto
Pelican
The Mars Volta
Sparta
Audioslave

Pretty decent if you ask me, but too few in comparison to the shitty -core music and emo crap or whatever that sounds the same.

Oh wait, you were moved to tears by Greenday. You're officially not allowed an opinion anymore.

Best post of the thread.

This decade? There's been some good stuff.

Jaga Jazzist came out with "What We Must", my favorite album from them.

Radiohead came out with a whole bunch of wicked awesome stuff.

Tool came out with Lateralus, and 10,000 Days (10K Days being...not too bad, Lateralus being fucking amazing).

Bonobo started making albums in the early 21st century (their first being...2002? Don't quote me on that), and is actually really good.

Massive Attack is also quite good.

However, I agree that there's about 98 percent garbage out there. It infuriates me that subpar garbage gets by so easily.

Iron & Wine

The Japanese Popstars

+ some other things mentioned previously maybe.

EDIT: Oh and O'Death (amazing live, takes some getting used to on cd); Portugal. The Man (Although they're quite rubbish live).

Jack Johnson, Modest Mouse, The Killers, Brett Dennen, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Miyavi!!!!

Lots'a rap. State Radio, Carissa's Wierd...'indie shit' I guess.

Jack Johnson, Modest Mouse, The Killers, Brett Dennen, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Ya cause Radiohead, smashing pumpkins and RHCP didn't exist 10 years ago. :rolleyes:

Ya cause Radiohead, smashing pumpkins and RHCP didn't exist 10 years ago. :rolleyes:

the last two are stupid, but Radiohead has made some very important music this decade. They "happened" in the 90's and the 00's.

Post-genre music.

Callisto
Pelican
The Mars Volta
Sparta
Audioslave

Pretty decent if you ask me, but too few in comparison to the shitty -core music and emo crap or whatever that sounds the same.

the mars volta are horribly overrated, and equally as bad. prog rock sucks ass.

the last two are stupid, but Radiohead has made some very important music this decade. They "happened" in the 90's and the 00's.

Yes well 10 years ago was 1998. I'm sure they were before the decade. Maybe had he said score, it would be a little more credible.

And bbtc: It's not that Mars Volta is overrated, it's that they're trying something that people aren't used to. I have a lot of respect for the kooky and eerie feeling of the mars volta. Cedric and Omar really do creep me the fuck out, and turn me off sometimes, but after a few listens, most of their music reall makes you feel inadequate because they're pretty fantastic at what they're trying to do.

And bbtc: It's not that Mars Volta is overrated, it's that they're trying something that people aren't used to. I have a lot of respect for the kooky and eerie feeling of the mars volta. Cedric and Omar really do creep me the fuck out, and turn me off sometimes, but after a few listens, most of their music reall makes you feel inadequate because they're pretty fantastic at what they're trying to do.

progressive rock has been around since the 60's, and was pretty big in the 70's. the mars volta are not doing anything new.

progressive rock has been around since the 60's, and was pretty big in the 70's. the mars volta are not doing anything new.

Their time signatures are rather unique. Just because you're a retrofag doesn't mean you have the right to tell me who is talented and who isn't. Their drummer won the guitar center drum off at like age 8. What did you do at age 8? Learn how to not shit in your pants? Good job, captain.

Their time signatures are rather unique. Just because you're a retrofag doesn't mean you have the right to tell me who is talented and who isn't. Their drummer won the guitar center drum off at like age 8. What did you do at age 8? Learn how to not shit in your pants? Good job, captain.

you are mighty defensive. i'm just expressing my opinion. you can like what you want.

fyi, unique doesn't mean good.

you are mighty defensive. i'm just expressing my opinion. you can like what you want.

fyi, unique doesn't mean good.

Protip: Don't knock national acts that sell because of their musical abilities unless you can do their band better than them.

Protip: Don't knock national acts that sell because of their musical abilities unless you can do their band better than them.

i never claimed to be a musician. i don't have to be one to know what i like. once again, i can have my opinion.

the mars volta just play stupid songs that go everywhere and nowhere at the same time. and on top of that, all for way too fucking long.

i never claimed to be a musician. i don't have to be one to know what i like. once again, i can have my opinion.

the mars volta just play stupid songs that go everywhere and nowhere at the same time. and on top of that, all for way too fucking long.

The last thing you said sounds more like "I'm a whiny bitch who can't play music, so I make fun of bands I don't understand". You can have your opinion... it's just a shitty one because you're in no position to claim Cedric Bixler-Zivala or Omar Rodriguez or anyone else in TMV plays stupid songs. You're not a musician, you wouldn't understand. You said it yourself.

haha, "dubstep", the 00s are almost over, man, put down the ganja and try something more contemporary, like millionaires (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfWnIid5J8)

this leads me to believe the 80's are back.

The last thing you said sounds more like "I'm a whiny bitch who can't play music, so I make fun of bands I don't understand". You can have your opinion... it's just a shitty one because you're in no position to claim Cedric Bixler-Zivala or Omar Rodriguez or anyone else in TMV plays stupid songs. You're not a musician, you wouldn't understand. You said it yourself.

are you saying that only people who play music, can appreciate it? i appreciate all types of music, and respect anyone who can play an instrument. it isn't easy.

but that doesn't mean i have to enjoy listening to every band out there.

for instance, that faggot from dashboard confessional can play the guitar, but do you like his music? i doubt it. and neither do i.

so fuck off with your elitist attitude. just because you can play an instrument (assuming from posts), doesn't make you more apt to form an opinion on what makes a band good.

to each their own, you dumb cunt.

are you saying that only people who play music, can appreciate it? i appreciate all types of music, and respect anyone who can play an instrument. it isn't easy.

but that doesn't mean i have to enjoy listening to every band out there.

for instance, that faggot from dashboard confessional can play the guitar, but do you like his music? i doubt it. and neither do i.

so fuck off with your elitist attitude. just because you can play an instrument (assuming from posts), doesn't make you more apt to form an opinion on what makes a band good.

to each their own, you dumb cunt.

I may be a cunt, but I'm not dumb.

And you still can't talk bad about Chris Cabberas either. You said it yourself that you're no musician, so you wouldn't understand what makes these people good musicians. Yet you wanna tell everyone they play stupid songs and are dumb. Maybe when you learn how to correctly speak of musicians who have more talent in their eyebrows than you do in your entire body, even if you don't appreciate them, in a respectful manner, then I won't be such a twat towards you for digging that hole.

I may be a cunt, but I'm not dumb.

And you still can't talk bad about Chris Cabberas either. You said it yourself that you're no musician, so you wouldn't understand what makes these people good musicians. Yet you wanna tell everyone they play stupid songs and are dumb. Maybe when you learn how to correctly speak of musicians who have more talent in their eyebrows than you do in your entire body, even if you don't appreciate them, in a respectful manner, then I won't be such a twat towards you for digging that hole.

well, after reading this http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2113751 i decided arguing with you is pointless.

i bet you see it coming...


you fuckin suck.

well, after reading this http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2113751 i decided arguing with you is pointless.

i bet you see it coming...


you fuckin suck.

LOL. Way to get trolled.

LOL. Way to get trolled.

sure.

sure.

No really... It was a joke.

this leads me to believe the 80's are back.

How so?

so fuck off with your elitist attitude. just because you can play an instrument (assuming from posts), doesn't make you more apt to form an opinion on what makes a band good.


Actually, it does.

Take a simple fucking theory class and you'll realize how much effort and hard work gets put into the music you're putting down, and how little gets put into the music you probably praise. Not to mention how much musicianship it takes to not only play it, but phrase it correctly and put some sort of musicality into it (when there's a meter change every bar, you really have to pay attention to what the fuck you're doing).

And are you fucking kidding me? The songs are too long? Do you have the attention span of a fucking goldfish or something?

If everyone in the world were an educated musician, then at LEAST half of the garbage that gets accepted by retarded people with too much money (or their parents' money) wouldn't even be out there.

Actually, it does.

Take a simple fucking theory class and you'll realize how much effort and hard work gets put into the music you're putting down, and how little gets put into the music you probably praise. Not to mention how much musicianship it takes to not only play it, but phrase it correctly and put some sort of musicality into it (when there's a meter change every bar, you really have to pay attention to what the fuck you're doing).

And are you fucking kidding me? The songs are too long? Do you have the attention span of a fucking goldfish or something?

If everyone in the world were an educated musician, then at LEAST half of the garbage that gets accepted by retarded people with too much money (or their parents' money) wouldn't even be out there.

i don't think you have to be a musician, but knowing a little bit of theory and being able to follow exactly what all the instruments are doing is a major component of critical music listening. mars volta are a very impressive band if you can hear them correctly.

Actually, it does.

No it doesnt. People appreciate art without being artists themselves. Furthermore, why can a painter criticise another persons sculpture? They may both be artists, but they do different things. Things the other may know little about.


Take a simple fucking theory class and you'll realize how much effort and hard work gets put into the music you're putting down, and how little gets put into the music you probably praise. Cliffs Of Dover was written in 5 - 10 minutes. And that is one hell of an instrumental by the legendary Eric Johnson. He says it just came naturally. Doesnt seem like it was much hard work. Good songs =/= Complex, difficult or advanced songwriting. In actual fact, its usually the opposite. Simple songs are usually more successful. Ofcourse, songs that have came about through a lot of hard work are equally good, its simply not always necessary.


Not to mention how much musicianship it takes to not only play it, but phrase it correctly and put some sort of musicality into it (when there's a meter change every bar, you really have to pay attention to what the fuck you're doing).I think youre exaggerating a bit here. Phrasing is a pretty basic idea, and meter changes every bar, providing they dont change to odd time signatures, isnt hard to play over, and if they are odd.. well I doubt it would sound too good.



And are you fucking kidding me? The songs are too long? Do you have the attention span of a fucking goldfish or something?
Most commercial songs are 3 - 5 minutes for a reason. Thats how long people are generally interested in a piece of music. Genres where a lot more development occurs like prog rock and classical, can go on much longer while staying interesting, but even then, some people will get bored. [/quote]


If everyone in the world were an educated musician, then at LEAST half of the garbage that gets accepted by retarded people with too much money (or their parents' money) wouldn't even be out there.I'm a very well educated musician and I like lots of music people claim is total crap. People like different things. People like different food, different clothes, different cars, different TV shows etc. Same with music. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

If only they still made music like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1u5Yir0E5Y

Actually, it does.

Take a simple fucking theory class and you'll realize how much effort and hard work gets put into the music you're putting down, and how little gets put into the music you probably praise. Not to mention how much musicianship it takes to not only play it, but phrase it correctly and put some sort of musicality into it (when there's a meter change every bar, you really have to pay attention to what the fuck you're doing).

And are you fucking kidding me? The songs are too long? Do you have the attention span of a fucking goldfish or something?

If everyone in the world were an educated musician, then at LEAST half of the garbage that gets accepted by retarded people with too much money (or their parents' money) wouldn't even be out there.

i'm well aware of the time and energy that goes into making music.

but the mars volta being overly technical does not constitute them being a good band.

their music is horribly congested and boring.


but maybe, i just dont "get it". :rolleyes:

Jack Johnson, Modest Mouse, The Killers, Brett Dennen, Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

I'm so lost. How many of these started in 00's?? Not but one or two.

The Mars Volta makes up for all the fails. I've seen a lot of people have already mentioned them, so I'll throw in something new - the return of John Frusciante and his great solo works.

the return of John Frusciante and his great solo works.

John Frusciante is a pretentious, shallow twat. Thats all he is.

If only they still made music like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1u5Yir0E5Y

They don't?

I wish they still made music like this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RnrXiaPVeHY

How so?

cause it's cheesy, their style sucks, and its just rehashed electro party bullshit.

cause it's cheesy, their style sucks, and its just rehashed electro party bullshit.

Well, that sounds more like 90s eurodance (or whatever they called it). Like this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DFsZhw9IMqQ (Vengaboys - We're going to eat pizza).

you're right, their innovative lyrics and talent will be remembered for centuries to come. The composition is astounding, amazing out of box beats that Beethoven could have never dreamed of. Millionaires are in my book considered the Mozart of the 21st century, only closely followed by Wesely Willis.

you're right, their innovative lyrics and talent will be remembered for centuries to come. The composition is astounding, amazing out of box beats that Beethoven could have never dreamed of. Millionaires are in my book considered the Mozart of the 21st century, only closely followed by Wesely Willis.

Wesley Willis is hilarious.

Wesley Willis is hilarious.

NOOOOO, he is a true musician, songs such as "my mom smokes crack rocks" and "Chronic Schizophrenia" were amazingly well composed, the use of his keyboard's song bank was truly some thing to behold.

NOOOOO, he is a true musician, songs such as "my mom smokes crack rocks" and "Chronic Schizophrenia" were amazingly well composed, the use of his keyboard's song bank was truly some thing to behold.

I just remember his album where every song was the same, just with a different band name and an attribute. I couldn't stop laughing.

Meh, none of which compare to what was released pre 2000.

With Teeth - Lame
Year Zero - Pretty Good
Ghosts - Awesome if you're in the mood for it
The Slip - Decent

"Right Where It Belongs" is almost as sad as "Hurt". :(

Year Zero sparked a desire in me for more dystopian books.

I saw them live at Voodoo Experience, and they played some songs from Ghosts and The Slip. It was pretty good, but only my friends on acid really liked the Ghosts interludes. Nobody knows the words to any songs on The Slip yet, apparently.

But during the encore when he played "Hurt", it was just a beautiful moment, where everyone in the crowd felt connected. :)

But I digress, my head got punched at least six times during March of the Pigs.

The Killers, Minus the Bear. Both are fucking excellent and formed in the 00's

don't forget about Lupe Fiasco he's pretty damn good, as is A Perfect Circle , and bloc party and Santogold...

I just named 6 good bands formed in the 00's

No it doesnt. People appreciate art without being artists themselves. Furthermore, why can a painter criticise another persons sculpture? They may both be artists, but they do different things. Things the other may know little about.



That's why artists get away with so much shit too. The quality of ANY sort of art, be it music, sculpting, painting, etc, goes down when you have people who don't know what makes it good, but have money to buy it.


Cliffs Of Dover was written in 5 - 10 minutes. And that is one hell of an instrumental by the legendary Eric Johnson. He says it just came naturally. Doesnt seem like it was much hard work. Good songs =/= Complex, difficult or advanced songwriting. In actual fact, its usually the opposite. Simple songs are usually more successful. Ofcourse, songs that have came about through a lot of hard work are equally good, its simply not always necessary.



Retardedly simple songs are usually more successful for the same reason as I stated above. If you can't back up what makes a song interesting with anything other than "it sounds good", then it's no good. How are you looking at songs being simple? Some people may say the song "Because" (by the Beatles) is simple, when the vocal score for it is incredible.


I think youre exaggerating a bit here. Phrasing is a pretty basic idea, and meter changes every bar, providing they dont change to odd time signatures, isnt hard to play over, and if they are odd.. well I doubt it would sound too good.


I know. I was keeping the terminology in laymans terms for now so that people didn't get lost with where I was going.


Most commercial songs are 3 - 5 minutes for a reason. Thats how long people are generally interested in a piece of music. Genres where a lot more development occurs like prog rock and classical, can go on much longer while staying interesting, but even then, some people will get bored.

That's exactly what I'm saying! Do you not see what makes music interesting? It's all the fucking musical developments which occur in the song you're listening to! There's songs that I listen to on the fucking radio that don't even have a single note of DISSONANCE in them at all. They aren't interesting, they're just massmarketed garbage that fucking morons will buy off of undeserving "musicians".


I'm a very well educated musician and I like lots of music people claim is total crap. People like different things. People like different food, different clothes, different cars, different TV shows etc. Same with music. One mans garbage is another mans treasure.

It's NOT the same with music. Opinion plays into it a bit, but you can always back up WHY something is good for reasons other than "it sounds nice". For example - I fucking HATE opera, but I can give it my respect because I can look through a score and find alot of interesting bits and pieces in it.

I fucking HATE the Sex Pistols, and they don't get a single lick of my respect whatsoever. They could probably play their instruments better with their faces than with their hands, and the shit they write lacks diversity (even from ITSELF) and is an all inclusive mix of being harmonically, melodically, and musically boring.

If you can back up WHY your music is good, then it probably is. But the fact with alot of musicians that are making the most money nowadays, is that you can't do that.

"Right Where It Belongs" is almost as sad as "Hurt". :(

"Right Where It Belongs" is by far the best song on that album, followed by "Beside You In Time".