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vazilizaitsev89
2008-12-02, 01:48
I was reading at the washington post and 20k american troops are being deployed to the United States in order to "aid law enforcement after simultaneous terrorist attacks"

I cant help but NOT to buy it. what are your opinions

droppinds
2008-12-02, 02:31
Just to clarify everyone on the current state of Posse Comitus

The open admission that U.S. troops will be involved in law enforcement operations as well as potentially using non-lethal weapons against American citizens is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act, which substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement unless under precise and extreme circumstances.
Section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act states, “Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
Under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, the law was changed to state, “The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”
However, these changes were repealed in their entirety by HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, reverting back to the original state of the Insurrection Act of 1807. Despite this repeal, President Bush attached a signing statement saying that he did not feel bound by the repeal. It remains to be seen whether President elect Obama will reverse Bush’s signing statement.
The original text of the Insurrection Act severely limits the power of the President to deploy troops within the United States.
For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, “(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.”

I mean i cant say i blame them. Normally id just say to use the nat guard+ Coast Guard, police, Marshall service, and whatever troops are already here. But seeing as the nat guard and coast guard are all in Iraq cant say i blame the decision as illegal as it is. Dont worry tho soon enough theyll be an attack right after Obama takes office and well all get drafted. Lets see the canidate "for peace" or the "anti-war" president elect speak out against this.

P.S. Where are those nukes the military lost in late August 2007 from Minot air force base?

Freelance Tax Collector
2008-12-03, 09:34
P.S. Where are those nukes the military lost in late August 2007 from Minot air force base?

Didn't they all end up being accounted for, but some of the lower level personnel involved die in "accidents"?

Seems the Air Force had a bad run this last year. Hill AFB saw a crate full of M16s disappear. Then that general shot himself....

We lost the Skyline
2008-12-03, 22:50
What terrorist attacks are you refuring to?

vazilizaitsev89
2008-12-04, 12:53
ones that will possibly happen in the future

Lb13
2008-12-04, 15:30
I was reading at the washington post and 20k american troops are being deployed to the United States in order to "aid law enforcement after simultaneous terrorist attacks"

I cant help but NOT to buy it. what are your opinions

Instead of bitching and crying why don't we start to arm ourselves?

vazilizaitsev89
2008-12-04, 16:54
Instead of bitching and crying why don't we start to arm ourselves?

I've already armed myself..7mm mag. Not much. but its something

Freelance Tax Collector
2008-12-05, 07:33
Well, as long as FEMA gets involved...... we'll be OK.

Lb13
2008-12-10, 08:26
I've already armed myself..7mm mag. Not much. but its something

got to start somewhere. remember to not pile too many at the same place and bury them in water/rot proof containers. ammo clips scopes binoculars gas masks. all very valuable investments for the future.

stupid noob
2008-12-12, 10:02
got to start somewhere. remember to not pile too many at the same place and bury them in water/rot proof containers. ammo clips scopes binoculars gas masks. all very valuable investments for the future.Magazines, not clips you fucking mall ninja.



When it's time to start burying guns, it's time to start using them.

Lb13
2008-12-13, 22:49
Magazines, not clips you fucking mall ninja.



When it's time to start burying guns, it's time to start using them.

clips/mags, interchangeable really...

Ron Smythberg
2008-12-14, 17:43
You people are the exact reason why the government feels it necessary to bring in the military for security.

Can't you see your own hypocrisy?

stupid noob
2008-12-14, 18:10
clips/mags, interchangeable really...
Only to mall ninjas.

Lb13
2008-12-14, 21:19
Only to mall ninjas.

never met one.

stupid noob
2008-12-14, 22:02
never met one.
Check the mirror.

Lb13
2008-12-15, 01:39
Check the mirror.

wow that gave me 3rd grade flash backs. :cool:

stupid noob
2008-12-15, 02:47
wow that gave me 3rd grade flash backs. :cool:
Faggot.

Lb13
2008-12-16, 06:19
Faggot.

stupid noob

illuminatikiller
2008-12-16, 09:51
P.S. Where are those nukes the military lost in late August 2007 from Minot air force base?

They didn't lose them, they flew from Minot to like Louisiana or some other shitty southern state.

Speaking of nukes and North Dakota, are there other states where nukes are easy to find, or do they just have all the missiles here 'cause nobody lives here?

stupid noob
2008-12-16, 12:19
They didn't lose them, they flew from Minot to like Louisiana or some other shitty southern state.

Speaking of nukes and North Dakota, are there other states where nukes are easy to find, or do they just have all the missiles here 'cause nobody lives here?
No body that matters, anyway.

illuminatikiller
2008-12-16, 12:45
no body that matters, anyway.

o rly?

Freelance Tax Collector
2008-12-19, 06:13
Speaking of nukes and North Dakota, are there other states where nukes are easy to find, or do they just have all the missiles here 'cause nobody lives here?

There's a thing for google earth you can get that marks the location of active silos.

illuminatikiller
2008-12-19, 09:30
There's a thing for google earth you can get that marks the location of active silos.

excellent

godfather89
2008-12-22, 03:35
The 20K troops have been added as a control group because, the economy is going to collapse and the powers that be know it. Think about it when people are rioting for food and survival the national guard and local law enforcement will not be enough. So, keep in mind there are those of us who know the truth that more police and government means loss of freedom, if this happens you may trigger sporadic revolutionary attacks. The Media paints it up as "terrorism" even though their the good guys and the "law" tries to contain it. It is my hope to see this nation ablaze with revolution and burning away these parasites on the tree of liberty.

I also believe some 20K more have been added to that as well.

PirateJoe
2008-12-22, 17:56
clips/mags, interchangeable really...

They're really not interchangeable. There is a difference, and just because most people are uneducated doesn't mean they mean the same thing.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/clipmag1.jpg

Lb13
2008-12-27, 06:43
They're really not interchangeable. There is a difference, and just because most people are uneducated doesn't mean they mean the same thing.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/OD1911/clipmag1.jpg

hahahaha are you serious? do you honestly think I'm going to stop saying "clips"? I mean you may be right and all but you knew what I meant so who gives a shit? there is so many things to get pissed off about in life why get mad if some stranger says "clips" on the internet? anyways Im going to load up my clips and be ready, you do the same with your mags.

Rumbo
2008-12-27, 18:11
Why use guns against guns?

If they know you are armed you will be the first to go.

If you kill expect to be killed.

Remember if you live by the sword you will by by the sword.

It's isnt a licence to go nuts, be invisible if you really want to help humanity.

superslacker
2008-12-29, 15:31
If you really want to get technical, then the bottom example of a "clip" in that picture is actually a ringloader or speedloader. But it is a very moot point.

And yes, bad things are happening and the soldiers that are violating Posse Comitatus are a battle-experienced combat brigade, which really doesn't bode well. At this point, it may be tempting to arm up but Rumbo is right. However, consider the words of Thomas Jefferson:

"A revolution is necessary every 10 years to prevent tyranny."

and also,

"At certain points in a nation's history the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots."

Then again, he wanted America to be a nation of yeoman farmers--blame Harrison for the corporate monstrosity we've become.

notamuppet
2008-12-30, 00:22
Why use guns against guns?

If they know you are armed you will be the first to go.

If you kill expect to be killed.

Remember if you live by the sword you will by by the sword.

It's isnt a licence to go nuts, be invisible if you really want to help humanity.

You couldn't be more wrong. Hiding won't help humanity, it won't even quell your fears.

As to all that say arming yourself is only going to make things worse, you're all in for a hell of a surprise. The second you give power to someone they exploit it for their own benefits.