I believe that this 'crisis' was made to introduce the amero (the new currency for canada mexico and the united states) after many failed 'solutions' and after the dollar collapses completely someone will step froward and introduce the ultimate solution... the amero.

they will pitch that idea in a package of 'a stronger dollar' 'an economy fixer' 'better for trading abroad' and even as a 'job creator' the media will be all over it slowing manipulating the mind of the masses to accept this. as crazy as it sounds many people will not only accept this they will demand it

what do you guys think?

i think you need to lay off the zeitgeist.

You will have no choice but to accept if that whole conspiracy thing is true. there will be no point in keeping your toilet paper, fomerly known as US dollars. either way according to the conspiracy, the economy will fall.

the dollar is still rather strong. and how exactly would introducing a new currency help things?

Its just like erasing zeroes after a certain amount of time...and to unite all three countries now wouldnt do anything besides make current economic problems worse

Yup. the western world is screwed. its all going to happen real quick, in a time where everyone needs it, such as national bankruptcy.

give it about four years.

the dollar is still rather strong. and how exactly would introducing a new currency help things?

Its just like erasing zeroes after a certain amount of time...and to unite all three countries now wouldnt do anything besides make current economic problems worse


not today or next year but within a few years...and no it wont help, but they will say it will.


Yup. the western world is screwed. its all going to happen real quick, in a time where everyone needs it, such as national bankruptcy.

give it about four years.

The only way to really be a union with mexico and canada is by lowering the standards of living in canada and the us and raising it in mexico.

That is why you never hear a mexican complain about nafta or joining the us. because it will help them.

Now they just need to keep destroying the dollar by mass printing it for the bailouts for the "necessary" companies to stay afloat. did I mention that the crisis these companies are in are fake? well they are... people who ask for handouts are bums on the streets. not people flying across the country in private jets and staying in resorts and still have the nerve to beg for billions.

more than half the country opposes any type of bailout, yet they ignore us. why do they ignore us? because it is just a step up there pyramid...they are at the top...we are at the bottom and those who deny what the truth or are too blind to see are buried at the bottom.

Alot of masonicly controlled companies have future knowledge of whats to take place so they are trying to squeeze the last dollars out of the system.

The only solution for this fake crisis is economically crashing all individuals and turning everyone into financial slaves, except and a grander level and more more obvious.your right, living standards will be lowered , and there might be a so called civil war. These guys knew, they were just making it worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txDWRR5WRFQ

you have a good day now!

Alot of masonicly controlled companies have future knowledge of whats to take place so they are trying to squeeze the last dollars out of the system.

exactly, the boats sinking and they are loading their pockets with jewelery before jumping on the raft. the reason the gov is giving the big three a "hard time" with their hand out is too manipulate the situation by acting as if they are against it. The big three will get there share with very limited restrictions.

The restrictions they will have are stupidly laughable like the CEO's will have a yearly salary of ONE dollar. how stupid do they think we are? are we really supposed to believe they wont go into company funds and only live off of one worthless dollar for a year?



and there might be a so called civil war. These guys knew, they were just making it worse.

Are you ready? I'm not


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txDWRR5WRFQ

hahaha

That is why you never hear a mexican complain about nafta or joining the us. because it will help them.




i followed your train of thought until i got here. then i lost you. mexico hates nafta, it is neo colonialism. other than that, this is one of the more believable conspiracies i have read about in a while.

I most certainly am , and it was all because I had future knowledge of this so called fake crisis.

I most certainly am , and it was all because I had future knowledge of this so called fake crisis.

I'm not sure if you work or still live with mommy and daddy, but guess what...this IS a fucking crisis. Tell the millions of people who were laid off that this ISNT a crisis and see what kind of reaction you'll get

Everyone who lends half an ear to this "Amero" horse shit is a vile waste of matter. Like devaluating the Dollar ten-fold to match the Peso would fix shit.

A union would never have been passed before, and even less now, since, thank God, the Democrats are opposed to free-trade agreements.

If such a Union was formed, the US economy would grind to a halt. All labor would shift to Mexico, where labor is cheaper and less prone to unions or lawsuits.

No fucking sensible politician who wants to be re-elected would commit such tomfoolery.

You guys probably don't get much Canadian news- Our government is on the brink of a coalition. I believe this will lower the state of living here. The amero is very possible- if Quebecois separatists get what they want- good-bye Quebec and hello U.S.. Fuck you guys and fuck mexico. Buy guns.

i followed your train of thought until i got here. then i lost you. mexico hates nafta, it is neo colonialism. other than that, this is one of the more believable conspiracies i have read about in a while.

when i said that i meant from my point of view i see mexicans welcoming it...

I'm not sure if you work or still live with mommy and daddy, but guess what...this IS a fucking crisis. Tell the millions of people who were laid off that this ISNT a crisis and see what kind of reaction you'll get

In this thread when we say fake crisis we don't mean that people are really not losing jobs and homes we mean that this very real crisis occurring, didn't come about naturally, certain people pulled some strings to make it happen. you see what i mean?

Everyone who lends half an ear to this "Amero" horse shit is a vile waste of matter. Like devaluating the Dollar ten-fold to match the Peso would fix shit.

:rolleyes:

not today or next year but within a few years...and no it wont help, but they will say it will.



If such a Union was formed, the US economy would grind to a halt. All labor would shift to Mexico, where labor is cheaper and less prone to unions or lawsuits.

Are you serious? just for fucks sake I'll answer that. in short that is part of what they want. they want the u.s. to fall equal to other countries and unite it first with our neighbors then the world. in a one world economy there is no place for one region being (for lack of a better word) better. unions are there enemy because unions are groups of peasants getting together in power thus they feel threatened. the only power should be held by the worthy in their eyes. and guess what? we aren't worthy to them.




No fucking sensible politician who wants to be re-elected would commit such tomfoolery.


Need I drop the letter W? case closed.

But i don't like taking the easy obvious way out so I'll answer that too.

They will inch their way closer and closer to their goal. you will not wake up one day out the blue in Mexico.

the dollar is still rather strong. and how exactly would introducing a new currency help things?

Its just like erasing zeroes after a certain amount of time...and to unite all three countries now wouldnt do anything besides make current economic problems worse


Yes but they fly over our financial storm. when the dust settles we will be that much closer to the 1wg. did you think they were just going to shop the amero to all of us and just hope we would accept it?

You guys probably don't get much Canadian news- Our government is on the brink of a coalition. I believe this will lower the state of living here. The amero is very possible- if Quebecois separatists get what they want- good-bye Quebec and hello U.S.. Fuck you guys and fuck mexico. Buy guns.


exactly. BUY GUNS/AMMO

Just for pity's sake, I'll discuss all you've presented in good faith.

Basically, all of your responses hint that high-level politicians are conspiring to unite the world under a World Government. I'm not going to discuss the insurmountable logistics of such a plan, and I won't even discuss any other flaws in this thinking. Instead, I'll offer an alternative response:

Perfect, let them establish the one world government. What would that mean? For starters, there would be no international conflicts. There would be freedom of trade between regions previously hostile. It would create a collective sense of humanity.

Any such "World Government" conspiracy, whose evil workings are said to be decades in the making, will know better than to be oppressive. Every single nation in hisotry that has conquered a large collection of people and treated them like shit has fallen. EVERY SINGLE ONE. The Assyrians fucked up bad, the Nazis fucked up bad, the Japanese fucked up bad, and the Russians fucked up real bad.

No matter how strong of an iron fist a nation can wield, it will always fall if its people are oppressed. Take the Arab Empire of the 8th century, for example. They conquered all of Southwest Asia, North Africa, Anatolia, and Spain, and remained in power for centuries. Why? They were tolerant. People could trade freely throughout their Empire, they could worship freely, and there was internal stability.

If there is a mass conspiracy to establish a world government, they will know better than to follow the Assyrian's suit. A nation that is tolerant to its inhabitants and has a flexible government will last as long as that homeostasis is maintained. And when it is not, said government will be replaced by another government.

If said replacement government is oppressive to its new inhabitants, it will be short lived, and will fall, only to be replaced by another government. Sometimes, you get a tolerant government right of the bat, as in the US's case, or you may have continual shitty governments, in Haiti's case. Eventually, a new, tolerant will set in, and will usher yet another long-lived state.

History has always played out like this, and it always will. If people are trying to take us over by means of a centuries old conspiracy, they will want to maintain power forever. Therefore, they will know they will have to be tolerant and flexible, or they will just be another ripple in the seas of time.

Just for pity's sake, I'll discuss all you've presented in good faith.

Basically, all of your responses hint that high-level politicians are conspiring to unite the world under a World Government. I'm not going to discuss the insurmountable logistics of such a plan, and I won't even discuss any other flaws in this thinking. Instead, I'll offer an alternative response:

Perfect, let them establish the one world government. What would that mean? For starters, there would be no international conflicts. There would be freedom of trade between regions previously hostile. It would create a collective sense of humanity.

Any such "World Government" conspiracy, whose evil workings are said to be decades in the making, will know better than to be oppressive. Every single nation in hisotry that has conquered a large collection of people and treated them like shit has fallen. EVERY SINGLE ONE. The Assyrians fucked up bad, the Nazis fucked up bad, the Japanese fucked up bad, and the Russians fucked up real bad.

No matter how strong of an iron fist a nation can wield, it will always fall if its people are oppressed. Take the Arab Empire of the 8th century, for example. They conquered all of Southwest Asia, North Africa, Anatolia, and Spain, and remained in power for centuries. Why? They were tolerant. People could trade freely throughout their Empire, they could worship freely, and there was internal stability.

If there is a mass conspiracy to establish a world government, they will know better than to follow the Assyrian's suit. A nation that is tolerant to its inhabitants and has a flexible government will last as long as that homeostasis is maintained. And when it is not, said government will be replaced by another government.

If said replacement government is oppressive to its new inhabitants, it will be short lived, and will fall, only to be replaced by another government. Sometimes, you get a tolerant government right of the bat, as in the US's case, or you may have continual shitty governments, in Haiti's case. Eventually, a new, tolerant will set in, and will usher yet another long-lived state.

History has always played out like this, and it always will. If people are trying to take us over by means of a centuries old conspiracy, they will want to maintain power forever. Therefore, they will know they will have to be tolerant and flexible, or they will just be another ripple in the seas of time.


This. MOTHERFUCKING THIS!

Just for pity's sake, I'll discuss all you've presented in good faith.

Basically, all of your responses hint that high-level politicians are conspiring to unite the world under a World Government. I'm not going to discuss the insurmountable logistics of such a plan, and I won't even discuss any other flaws in this thinking. Instead, I'll offer an alternative response:

Perfect, let them establish the one world government. What would that mean? For starters, there would be no international conflicts. There would be freedom of trade between regions previously hostile. It would create a collective sense of humanity.

Any such "World Government" conspiracy, whose evil workings are said to be decades in the making, will know better than to be oppressive. Every single nation in hisotry that has conquered a large collection of people and treated them like shit has fallen. EVERY SINGLE ONE. The Assyrians fucked up bad, the Nazis fucked up bad, the Japanese fucked up bad, and the Russians fucked up real bad.

No matter how strong of an iron fist a nation can wield, it will always fall if its people are oppressed. Take the Arab Empire of the 8th century, for example. They conquered all of Southwest Asia, North Africa, Anatolia, and Spain, and remained in power for centuries. Why? They were tolerant. People could trade freely throughout their Empire, they could worship freely, and there was internal stability.

If there is a mass conspiracy to establish a world government, they will know better than to follow the Assyrian's suit. A nation that is tolerant to its inhabitants and has a flexible government will last as long as that homeostasis is maintained. And when it is not, said government will be replaced by another government.

If said replacement government is oppressive to its new inhabitants, it will be short lived, and will fall, only to be replaced by another government. Sometimes, you get a tolerant government right of the bat, as in the US's case, or you may have continual shitty governments, in Haiti's case. Eventually, a new, tolerant will set in, and will usher yet another long-lived state.

History has always played out like this, and it always will. If people are trying to take us over by means of a centuries old conspiracy, they will want to maintain power forever. Therefore, they will know they will have to be tolerant and flexible, or they will just be another ripple in the seas of time.

You my friend are absolutely right. the thing is that back in those days they didn't have microwave weapons, lazer weapons that blind people chemical weapons that do a variety of different fucked up things to us to keep them in control. they all had the same weapons, I don't know about you but i don't have a death ray on my roof top or small rockets ready to shoot out my chimney or a microwave weapon on my front lawn. shit they don't even want us having a gun bigger than a .22

Those governments that you marked as oppressive didn't have the power to spy on its people with excuses of terrorism. they didn't have several well funded intelligence agencies that could come to my house and arrest me, take my computer and toss me in Gbay just for engaging in this conversation with you over the net.

Imagine if the roman empire said you had to apply for a permission slip to own a sword because some idiot killed some other idiot across the country?

This fight will be epic but we will prevail you are right but people need to know this and be ready for when the day comes.

I see the good things that can come about in a 1wg but i don't let myself be fooled, I also see the bad things. for example RFID chips, censoring the net, censoring radio, cameras everywhere, just where i live i have 5 cameras facing my house! I cant even take a piss on a tree without getting token to jail and placed on a sex offenders list. that's never happened to me but it can if i did. I live in a neighborhood not an office building. Tell me how many cameras there are facing your house?

If the nwo happened this would be happening in every neighborhood even yours.

I drove down to the Mexican border recently. do you know how many armed military checkpoints I crossed? two, not to mention the anti-terrorism questions i had to answer to get back in to the u.s. like

how long where you in mexico?
who you go see?
who did you have contact with?
why where you in mexico for 20 minutes?
pull your pants back
are you a tagger?
whats in that bag?

What if they did that everywhere in the name of homeland security? there is two check points on either side leaving Reno Nevada. one check point in San Clemente California between L.A. and San Diego. but they cover them up as "agricultural checks" or "livestock checks" or "immigration checks" these are besides the other two i mentioned before. Imagine if they don't let you go anywhere unless you have a 100 percent good reason?

Everyone is ok because people say they don't want the Mexicans or ms-13 or terrorist to cross over here. BUT what happens if they start justifying military check points just to go to the grocery store? oh wait we are almost there, they are called "DUI checks" it isn't that hard to believe they can start making it to where you have to show your RFID dog tag to get through.

small towns exist where if you ain't from there they automatically start investigating you to see what the fuck you are doing there.

In Los angeles they have ICE braking down doors arresting people just because they don't have their birth certificate tatted on there face. how many times do you carry it? don't matter right because you are white. but wait till the ACLU start whining and complaining about racial profiling and they will have to start busting white peoples doors down too.

you are not a terrorist or gang-member or mexican and you dont violate the law in public so you are ok right? wrong let me explain.

The day can come soon where if you get caught with a joint they put you in house arrest because our jails are so over crowded. wait they already do that. but what if they place a monitoring system on your phone while they are at it, wait they do that too. Why don't they just place surveillance cameras in your bedroom while they are at it? they wont you say? why not? if you are on probation/parole why not? they have told us before that if you use drugs you are supporting terrorism so you my friend will be marked as a low level domestic terrorist. Tell me how in the hell are you going to argue with that? people love to say "if you don't have anything to hide then you shouldn't worry about it"

but you may not use any type of drug right? well swallowing a pill without the right permission slip from big brother and you might get arrested too.

What if you associate with someone who uses drugs? guilty by association.

first the child molesters then the gang members then the terrorist... then the world.

microwave weapons, lazer weapons that blind people chemical weapons that do a variety of different fucked up things to us to keep them in control. I don't know about you but i don't have a death ray


Wow. Once I got to the "death rays" part I started chuckling exuberantly and I really couldn't force myself to read any longer.

What a nut...

All those things you mentioned are oppressive, but they are all in the name of security. If you've done nothing wrong, then a simple inspection shouldn't mind much. And if the people doing these checkpoints start to go overboard (/jail/kill innocent, it won't be long before they lose the reins of power).

The whole thing about the CCTV cameras in the UK is a good example. As authoritarian as it may seem, they're being used for civil purposes. You shouldn't have taken a piss on that tree, you shouldn't have run the red light, etc.

I can tell myself I sound like a brainwashed drone, but these are my personal conclusions. If we want to live in a peaceful world of tolerance and equality, we've got to give up some rights.

Honestly, as of now, I don't support any of that, however. I like my right to own guns, I like my rights to piss on a tree. But if the day comes when a "NWO" type thing takes over, we've just got to accept it and realize that they will do a good job. They wouldn't be hellbent on a massive conspiracy like that if they didn't understand how governments rise and fall.

Rest assured, the people will prevail.

Wow. Once I got to the "death rays" part I started chuckling exuberantly and I really couldn't force myself to read any longer.

What a nut...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1w4g2vr7B4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raygun

Yes I'm a nut because you don't read.

All those things you mentioned are oppressive, but they are all in the name of security. If you've done nothing wrong, then a simple inspection shouldn't mind much. And if the people doing these checkpoints start to go overboard (/jail/kill innocent, it won't be long before they lose the reins of power).

The whole thing about the CCTV cameras in the UK is a good example. As authoritarian as it may seem, they're being used for civil purposes. You shouldn't have taken a piss on that tree, you shouldn't have run the red light, etc.

I can tell myself I sound like a brainwashed drone, but these are my personal conclusions. If we want to live in a peaceful world of tolerance and equality, we've got to give up some rights.

Honestly, as of now, I don't support any of that, however. I like my right to own guns, I like my rights to piss on a tree. But if the day comes when a "NWO" type thing takes over, we've just got to accept it and realize that they will do a good job. They wouldn't be hellbent on a massive conspiracy like that if they didn't understand how governments rise and fall.

Rest assured, the people will prevail.

Your words calm me... I hope you are right.

maybe its the whole secretive thing that makes us afraid of what we don't fully understand.

I still believe what i have been believing but I respect your views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1w4g2vr7B4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raygun

Yes I'm a nut because you don't read.



Your words calm me... I hope you are right.

maybe its the whole secretive thing that makes us afraid of what we don't fully understand.

I still believe what i have been believing but I respect your views.

So you can quote wikipedia? Wow. Have a cookie.

On a serious note, I would advise you look into taking psychiatric drugs.

Your words calm me... I hope you are right.

maybe its the whole secretive thing that makes us afraid of what we don't fully understand.

I still believe what i have been believing but I respect your views.


Of course, it's in our nature to afraid of the unknown. Personally, I don't even believe the conspiracy theories. I was just trying to put forth a empirical analysis of the plausible logistics of such a conspiracy.

If you still choose to believe the conspiracies, then take my argument to heart and sleep easy :)

"The conspiracy is there is no conspiracy."

Edit: Just watched the "ray gun" video, the conspiracy nut linked to me. It actually looks like it could be a very effective tool to be used by law enforcement. It causes no real physical damage. It is a positive step forward in crowd control.

So you can quote wikipedia? Wow. Have a cookie.

On a serious note, I would advise you look into taking psychiatric drugs.



:rolleyes:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aGvwttDayiiM&refer=home

Their already producing the amero now as I write this...
The Fed is essentially devaluing the dollar by having a 0% to 0.25% Interest Rate...
More and more nations are beginning to look at other currencies, turning away from america...

The only conclusion I can see is The Amero being made the Currency and the government approving of this new currency under the guise of taking care of people. When being that the currency is Central Banker originated it will only make matters worst. My advice is to buy Gold so than that way you can exchange the gold for the Amero when the time comes...

This is Economic Terrorism of the Highest Caliber. We need a revolution and we need to spread the word about this now.

Their already producing the amero now as I write this...
The Fed is essentially devaluing the dollar by having a 0% to 0.25% Interest Rate...
More and more nations are beginning to look at other currencies, turning away from america...

The only conclusion I can see is The Amero being made the Currency and the government approving of this new currency under the guise of taking care of people. When being that the currency is Central Banker originated it will only make matters worst. My advice is to buy Gold so than that way you can exchange the gold for the Amero when the time comes...

This is Economic Terrorism of the Highest Caliber. We need a revolution and we need to spread the word about this now.

this.


I advise everyone to at least try and raise animals and/or grow whatever they can on any land they can use and arm themselves to protect their property from people who don't think any of that is necessary.

if/when shit hits the fan you cant fight on a empty stomach.

It's all about levveling the playing feild for everyone.

Part of the free trade across america. Introducing the Amero.

will create a tempory boom. in The north american unions industry.

Because The Amero is central banker originated, it will lead to more and more inflation because historically that is what governments like to do when the currency is in their hands to manipulate fully. Stock up on food, water, basics and arms because this will cause the lower class to be the nothing class and the middle class to be the new lower class or if you play the cards right part of the upper class but because of high taxes that Obama will put on the upper class the upper class will become like a middle-upper class.