just went up on Konami's official site, last night.

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/?ref=kjp_eng

hhmmm...WTF?

some speculate it means MGS4 is coming to 360 (because of the power button); but don't forget that's impossible. and besides, that power button is on the PS3, as well. the green could simply indicate that it's active.

theres really no telling. I'm excited, nonetheless..

but don't forget that's impossible.

Lulz, why would you think that's impossible?

A new MGAc!d perhaps?

Metal Gear Ion?

Lulz, why would you think that's impossible?

Cause the 360 sucks ass, duh.

Cause the 360 sucks ass, duh.

You're just silly.

You're just silly.

We're both silly when it comes to these kinds of opinions.

We're both silly when it comes to these kinds of opinions.

Okay.

Okay.

Now, now, we both know about our bias towards platforms we don't like.

I just call 'em like I see 'em dude.

I don't give a shit who makes what, or what platform something is on, if it's a good game it's a good game.

And I don't take kindly to stupid comments like "it's impossible for MGS4 to run on the 360". Not when nearly every multiplatform game in existence runs better on the 360, even some where the PS3 version was the lead.

MGS4 doesn't do anything the 360 isn't capable of save for lossless 7.1 audio and lossless cutscenes (oh, and maybe some stupid product placement). It doesn't matter that some simple compression with virtually no loss in quality would make the game fit just fine on a normal DVD. A loss no one without the highest end audio equipment and the best TV on the market would notice. It's just funny hearing stupid shit like "OMG BD is so awesome MGS4 would need like 80 DVD's to fit lulz" coming from morons, especially when half of them are playing on SD TVS in stereo.

But coming back to what I said before, none of this really makes a difference to me because MGS4 isn't a good game. I don't give a fuck if it comes to the 360 or not because I don't want to play it because MGS stopped being good after the first one. I can admit to wanting to play some games on PS3, like Uncharted and Wipeout HD, but they're not near enough to sell me on the system.

I just call 'em like I see 'em dude

Liar liar pants on fire!

I don't give a shit who makes what, or what platform something is on, if it's a good game it's a good game.

The first step to fixing a problem is admitting you have one.

And I don't take kindly to stupid comments like "it's impossible for MGS4 to run on the 360".

That's not what he said. He was referring to contracts.

Not when nearly every multiplatform game in existence runs better on the 360, even some where the PS3 version was the lead.

Opinions, opinion, opinions and biased opinions.

MGS4 doesn't do anything the 360 isn't capable of save for lossless 7.1 audio and lossless cutscenes (oh, and maybe some stupid product placement). It doesn't matter that some simple compression with virtually no loss in quality would make the game fit just fine on a normal DVD. A loss no one without the highest end audio equipment and the best TV on the market would notice.

That isn't really being discussed. The reason MGS isn't on the 360 isn't because of hardware limitations. It's because of certain contracts between certain companies. If you weren't such a biased prick, you would've noticed that.


It's just funny hearing stupid shit like "OMG BD is so awesome MGS4 would need like 80 DVD's to fit lulz" coming from morons, especially when half of them are playing on SD TVS in stereo.

I didn't hear anything of that kind in this thread. In fact, I've never seen anyone make that kind of comment. Not even on the dumbshit fanfag comments on youtube.

But coming back to what I said before, none of this really makes a difference to me because MGS4 isn't a good game.

That's an opinion. Probably a biased one as well. If MGS was on the PC or 360, you'd probably like it. I mean, if you don't own a PS3, how can you possibly know it's a bad game? Oh right, you can't.

I don't give a fuck if it comes to the 360 or not because I don't want to play it because MGS stopped being good after the first one.

You mean it stopped being good after you became a biased shithead? I'm feelin' you.

I can admit to wanting to play some games on PS3, like Uncharted and Wipeout HD, but they're not near enough to sell me on the system.

If the PS3 had millions of exclusives, you'd still pull one reason or another to be biased against it. Such is the way of the dark side... :o

It's obviously a Wii game.

Liar liar pants on fire!

:rolleyes:

That's not what he said. He was referring to contracts.

Yeah? You sure about that? Where exactly are these contracts that say MGS4 will never ever be on another platform? Care to link to them for me?

Opinions, opinion, opinions and biased opinions.

Actually, it's not an opinion, it's cold hard fact. Go read some of the Eurogamer head to head comparisons if you like. Something like 1 in 5 multiplatform titles end up running on par or better than the 360 on PS3. Most of them suffer from screen tearing, lack of AA, poor framerate, less post processing effects, or blurrier textures. Most of the time more than one of those things. It's really quite telling when there are many games where the 360 version has AA and the PS3 version doesn't, yet the 360 version still maintains a higher framerate.

That isn't really being discussed. The reason MGS isn't on the 360 isn't because of hardware limitations. It's because of certain contracts between certain companies. If you weren't such a biased prick, you would've noticed that.

Show me this supposed contract that states MGS4 can never be ported to another console. I remember a lot of fanboy faggots talking about how Final Fantasy was a Sony franchise and FFXIII was going to be the PS3's savior. Look how that turned out.

Fact is, MGS4 has done pretty much all it's going to do on the PS3. It's sold something like 4 million copies, and gave the system a moderate sales boost for a month or two. A 360 port would be nothing but gravy at this point. I'm not saying that's what this is, but it would make sense.

I didn't hear anything of that kind in this thread. In fact, I've never seen anyone make that kind of comment. Not even on the dumbshit fanfag comments on youtube.

I never said anyone was making outrageous claims like that in this thread, but until I see proof of this supposed contract it's the only thing I can assume SG was implying as I've seen such nonsense from him before on this forum.

And you've never heard shit like that? Really? You mean to tell me you never saw the famous MGS4 360 picture?

http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_mgs4xbox360oj1_20080826.png

That's an opinion. Probably a biased one as well. If MGS was on the PC or 360, you'd probably like it. I mean, if you don't own a PS3, how can you possibly know it's a bad game? Oh right, you can't.

No shit it's an opinion. And no, it's not really biased, because I used to love the series. MGS1 is still one of my favorite PSX games, but MGS2 was a huge piece of shit that soured me on the series forever. How do I know MGS4 is also a piece of shit? Because it continues the same godawful story found in MGS2, and features the same gameplay I grew very very tired of.

I don't care what console something is on. I loved the Gamecube, but I thought The Twin Snakes fucking blew, even though I love the PSX game. It ruined the cutscenes, butchered Ninja's voice acting, and made the game easier than the Staple's easy button with First Person view.

You mean it stopped being good after you became a biased shithead? I'm feelin' you.

No, it stopped being good when it featured a daytime soap "romance" that you had to sit through every 10 minutes, a faggot vampire, a dude being controlled by a fucking hand, a cutscene every 20 feet, incest, a fatass on rollerblades, and the worst videogame story I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. I expected MGS2 to be like getting to fuck 40 virgins, and instead it was like being fucked by 40 large Puerto Ricans.

If the PS3 had millions of exclusives, you'd still pull one reason or another to be biased against it. Such is the way of the dark side... :o

Why would I be biased against it if it had a million exclusives I want to play? I have nothing against Sony, aside from the stupid shit they've done with the PS3. I owned a PS2 and enjoyed it, I have a PSP and enjoy it. It's not my fault Sony overpriced their console and lost all their exclusives, and I'm not going to buy the fucking thing just because they used to know what they were doing.

In conclusion, blow me.

It's obviously a Wii game.

:eek:

:rolleyes:

Don't go toothlessjoe on me here.



Yeah? You sure about that? Where exactly are these contracts that say MGS4 will never ever be on another platform? Care to link to them for me?

You haven't been paying much attention to the gaming world, have you?


Actually, it's not an opinion, it's cold hard fact. Go read some of the Eurogamer head to head comparisons if you like. Something like 1 in 5 multiplatform titles ends up running on par or better than the 360 on PS3. Most of them suffer from screen tearing, lack of AA, less post processing effects, or blurrier textures. Most of the time more than one of those things.

That's just bullshit and you know it. In fact, whenever I see one of those "independent" benchmarks of any kind, I have to cringe. I thought you'd be above such crap. GTA IV runs best on the PS3, although the difference with the 360 isn't noticeable. The PC version is pure and utter shit however. Does this mean the PC is gay. Oh noes, better not say that.


Show me this supposed contract that states MGS4 can never be ported to another console. I remember a lot of fanboy faggots talking about how Final Fantasy was a Sony franchise and FFXIII was going to be the PS3's savior. Look how that turned out.

The contract between SQUARE and Sony ended, thus Final Fantasy 13 will be available on both platforms. I never said you won't see a MGS on the Xbox. You just won't see one for now. Is that so difficult for your biased head to understand?

Fact is, MGS4 has done pretty much all it's going to do on the PS3. It's sold something like 4 million copies, and gave the system a moderate sales boost for a month or two. A 360 port would be nothing but gravy at this point. I'm not saying that's what this is, but it would make sense.

Kojima isn't interested in the 360 right now. That can always change in the future though. The thing is, there probably won't be a MGS on the Xbox anytime soon.

I never said anyone was making outrageous claims like that in this thread, but until I see proof of this supposed contract it's the only thing I can assume SG was implying as I've seen such nonsense from him before on this forum.

What you have going on with scarygary does not concern me. There is just nothing in his sentence that would suggest a smartass comment about the Xbox needing 50 dvds for MGS or other technical limitations.

I could also say that you've been spewing nonsense about the PS3 on this forum a lot as well and... wait I'm already going that. You have been spewing nonsensical crap about the PS3 around here.

And you've never heard shit like that? Really? You mean to tell me you never saw the famous MGS4 360 picture?

http://360.kombo.com/images/content/news/blurb_mgs4xbox360oj1_20080826.png

Never seen that picture. Don't let yourself get carried away by morons. The people making those pictures of a huge ass Xbox were also idiots.

No shit it's an opinion. And no, it's not really biased, because I used to love the series. MGS1 is still one of my favorite PSX games, but MGS2 was a huge piece of shit that soured me on the series forever. How do I know MGS4 is also a piece of shit? Because it continues the same godawful story found in MGS2, and features the same gameplay I grew very very tired of.

I can't understand how you can not like MGS4 if you liked MGS. That just makes fuck all sense. As for the story, it's always been over the top. In that sense, MGS also had a god awful story. Really, you have to be pretty open minded to accept those silly bosses.

I don't care what console something is on. I loved the Gamecube, but I thought The Twin Snakes fucking blew, even though I love the PSX game. It ruined the cutscenes, butchered Ninja's voice acting, and made the game easier than the Staple's easy button with First Person view.

I actually liked Twin Snakes better than the original MGS. But then again, I wasn't really concerned with that bullshit "hardcore" fans had to say about the first person view. The game was also polished as hell. If nothing else, it was a very nice addition to the original. A great game to revisit Shadow Moses with better graphics and new gameplay.

No, it stopped being good when it featured a daytime soap "romance" that you had to sit through every 10 minutes, a faggot vampire, a dude being controlled by a fucking hand, a cutscene every 20 feet, incest, a fatass on rollerblades, and the worst videogame story I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. I expected MGS2 to be like getting to fuck 40 virgins, and instead it was like being fucked by 40 large Puerto Ricans.

Welcome to the world of Anime. MGS4's story features a pretty nice finale and the fact that you go back to Shadow Moses Island is sweet as fuck. Everything is way over the top, in just about every sense. Vamp is a faggot, but you get to blow his head off. I don't see how the story is any more crazy than that of the original MGS.

Why would I be biased against it if it had a million exclusives I want to play? I have nothing against Sony, aside from the stupid shit they've done with the PS3. I owned a PS2 and enjoyed, I have a PSP and enjoy it. It's not my fault Sony overpriced their console and lost all their exclusives, and I'm not going to buy the fucking thing just because they used to know what they were doing.

Well I got mine for free so I can't really say anything about the over priced aspect of it. So far, I am super happy with my PS3. Just about the any thing that bothers me is the lack of content on PSN but fuck, I hardly use that anyway. If I want to see trailers, I'll visit gametrailers or appletrailers for movies.

I actually despise Sony for their Lik-Sang faggotry, but shit. That isn't going to stop me from having fun on the PS3.

In conclusion, blow me.

Meta won't allow me to have sex with children anymore. :(

You haven't been paying much attention to the gaming world, have you?

Where's the link?

That's just bullshit and you know it. In fact, whenever I see one of those "independent" benchmarks of any kind, I have to cringe. I thought you'd be above such crap. GTA IV runs best on the PS3, although the difference with the 360 isn't noticeable. The PC version is pure and utter shit however. Does this mean the PC is gay. Oh noes, better not say that.

Eurogamer is an unbiased news source that does extensive testing to determine which is the superior version of a multiplatform game.

Also, they disagree with your obviously biased assessment of GTAIV running better on the PS3:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=137829

Here's a nice excerpt:

So the results clearly show that over the course of the entire clip, 360 out-performs PlayStation 3 in every one of the six scenarios presented here. Indeed, on the longer vids, with a larger average sample, we're seeing a good 17 to 18 percent variance. Tests on gameplay (playing through the same mission, but not rendering identical scenes, obviously) saw a similar range of variance too. For example, the 'Ivan the Not So Terrible' stage has a nice range of in-car, on-foot, rooftop and cut-scene action. 30.106fps average on a 360 runthrough, compared with 26.733fps and 26.696fps on two separate PS3 captures of the same mission.

The 360 version, despite running at a higher native resolution and supporting 2xAA, has a higher framerate as well.

Here's a breakdown of every head to head they've ever done:

http://misterslimm.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/eurogamer-xbox-360-vs-ps3-head-to-head-face-off-results/

That's 74 multiplatform titles that run better on the 360, 38 that are a draw, and 10 that run better on the PS3.

I never said you won't see a MGS on the Xbox. You just won't see one for now. Is that so difficult for your biased head to understand?

And I never said an MGS4 port was coming, and I never said this announcement was related to MGS4 on the 360. But I'm not aware of any contract that states MGS4 can't come to the 360, or can't come to it within a reasonable timeframe, and until you prove to me otherwise, I won't believe it.

And remember, Sony doesn't buy exclusives, remember?

Kojima isn't interested in the 360 right now.

What does Kojima not being interested in the 360 have to do with an MGS4 360 port?

I could also say that you've been spewing nonsense about the PS3 on this forum a lot as well and... wait I'm already going that. You have been spewing nonsensical crap about the PS3 around here.

Show me this nonsensical crap, show me the lies I've spread about the PS3.

As for the MGS series, maybe I just grew out of it, I don't know. I did replay MGS1 after MGS2 though, and still found it to be a great game, so I don't know if that was it. I'm well aware the MGS1 was over the top and featured a pretty convoluted story, but it really wasn't that hard to follow, had some truly great villains that made for some of the best boss fights ever, and it wrapped up nicely. MGS2 had laughable, silly villains, had a story that by the end had no idea what it wanted to be, and went WAY overboard on the cutscenes. The main character sucked, the villains sucked, the story sucked, the ending sucked. I will admit it improved the gameplay in a few key areas, but what does that matter when all your motivation for utilizing that gameplay has been cut off at the knees? It's like riding a bike 20 miles to have sex with a chick you met on the internet, and in her pictures she looked hot, but when you got there she turned out to be a tranny. Maybe you enjoy riding your bike anyway, but after a 20 mile journey that ended in severe disappointment you're not going to look back on the day and say "Man, that was a great bike ride!".

In some games the gameplay is enough, but in a game that beats you over the head with it's story every 5 minutes, it better be a good one or you're going to end up pissed off.

New metal gear game on the iPhone.

look at it this way; I am a Metal Gear fan. I probably wouldn't be if MGS2: Substance hadn't came out for Xbox. but due to this, I am a HUGE MGS fan. once it became overly-obvious that MGS4 would not come out on 360 (LOOOONG before it was released), my plans of buying one took a quick turn to the PS3, instead. this is also atop the fact that RE5 and SFIV wouldn't come out on the Wii. a PS3 just seemed the best route for me to take; but most especially because of MGS4. in my opion (I won't even bother saying it harshly): MGS4 was worth the $500. no fucking doubt about it. greatest game ever made, and I don't care what anyone says. fuck you if you don't like it, and fuck you even if you do. it makes no difference to me.

my comments are not 'biased opinion' or 'fanboyism', they are fact. the motherfucking 360 just isn't suitable for MGS-fucking-4. it would have to be entirely re-created TO be. hardware limitations prevent it, product placement prevent it, contracts prevent it, developers prevent it, the size of the game prevents it, KOJIMA prevents it; and IF in the long run, it comes out for 360...GOOD. maybe 360 owners will realize what the fuck they've been missing out on. I have a friend who owns a 360, I would LOVE for him to be able to play it; and I'm sure he would too.

and on a side-note, Sony owns like, 15% of Square Enix. even with FFXIII coming out on 360, they profit. the only reason PS3 fans are upset about it is because if the 360 is capable of it, than it just doesn't sound as impressive anymore. 3rd party developers are swingers. they go for the better deal. the only company that doesn't do this is probably Capcom (because they're the shit). on the other hand if MS managed to win over some-one like Team Ico...THAT would be a kick in Sony's ass, nuts and throat.

but back to this new title...if it somehow manages to make it on 360, exclusively...I would buy a 360, just as I did a PS3. no doubt. until then, it's PS3 all the way, because it's a kick-ass console, nonetheless.

oh, and does anyone remember Kojima's miro-complaint about having to compress MGS4 to fit the 50GB dual layer Bluray?

well...the 14 layer, 400GB Blurays go public in 2010. just in time for MGS5, baby.

lthe only reason PS3 fans are upset about it is because if the 360 is capable of it, than it just doesn't sound as impressive anymore.

Lulz.

Honestly, if after all this shit from you two about how a 360 MGS is a near impossibility this turns out to be an MGS 360 game, or even better, an MGS4 port, I'm going to lol so hard.

Before I didn't care what this was, but now I really hope it's a 360 game just for that reason.

-http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/mgst/?ref=kjp_eng

Whats the 'T' for? Also, it might just be an extra like Special Missions, Substance and Subsistence.

How's MGO now anyway? I stopped playing after a while, there aren't enough maps.

Where's the link?

Go do your own homework. A little bit of common sense would help too.

Eurogamer is an unbiased news source that does extensive testing to determine which is the superior version of a multiplatform game.

Also, they disagree with your obviously biased assessment of GTAIV running better on the PS3:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=137829

Here's a nice excerpt:

So the results clearly show that over the course of the entire clip, 360 out-performs PlayStation 3 in every one of the six scenarios presented here. Indeed, on the longer vids, with a larger average sample, we're seeing a good 17 to 18 percent variance. Tests on gameplay (playing through the same mission, but not rendering identical scenes, obviously) saw a similar range of variance too. For example, the 'Ivan the Not So Terrible' stage has a nice range of in-car, on-foot, rooftop and cut-scene action. 30.106fps average on a 360 runthrough, compared with 26.733fps and 26.696fps on two separate PS3 captures of the same mission.

The 360 version, despite running at a higher native resolution and supporting 2xAA, has a higher framerate as well.

That may be what they call themselves but I have disagreed with them often in the past. I am extremely skeptical towards these "extensive" benchmarks, of any kind, and I only trust my own experience. Performance wise they're the same in my opinion, as they are in terms of graphics. In my experience, the PS3 version has slightly more vibrant colors. Both consoles suffer from hiccups at certain points in the game. Although oddly they don't occur at the same spots.



Here's a breakdown of every head to head they've ever done:

http://misterslimm.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/eurogamer-xbox-360-vs-ps3-head-to-head-face-off-results/

That's 74 multiplatform titles that run better on the 360, 38 that are a draw, and 10 that run better on the PS3.

That's just super but as I stated earlier, I don't agree with their benchmarks.


And I never said an MGS4 port was coming, and I never said this announcement was related to MGS4 on the 360. But I'm not aware of any contract that states MGS4 can't come to the 360, or can't come to it within a reasonable timeframe, and until you prove to me otherwise, I won't believe it.

I doubt there is a contract that states MGS4 can never get ported to the 360. Thing is though, that MGS4 will be a PS3 exclusive for a few years at least.

And remember, Sony doesn't buy exclusives, remember?

It's hard not to remember when you're saying it twice. :o


What does Kojima not being interested in the 360 have to do with an MGS4 360 port?

A lot. He treats that damn franchise like his own child. I know, the man's sort of a fruitcake but that's beside the point.


Show me this nonsensical crap, show me the lies I've spread about the PS3.

*points to every one of your posts about the PS3* :o

As for the MGS series, maybe I just grew out of it, I don't know. I did replay MGS1 after MGS2 though, and still found it to be a great game, so I don't know if that was it. I'm well aware the MGS1 was over the top and featured a pretty convoluted story, but it really wasn't that hard to follow, had some truly great villains that made for some of the best boss fights ever, and it wrapped up nicely. MGS2 had laughable, silly villains, had a story that by the end had no idea what it wanted to be, and went WAY overboard on the cutscenes. The main character sucked, the villains sucked, the story sucked, the ending sucked. I will admit it improved the gameplay in a few key areas, but what does that matter when all your motivation for utilizing that gameplay has been cut off at the knees? It's like riding a bike 20 miles to have sex with a chick you met on the internet, and in her pictures she looked hot, but when you got there she turned out to be a tranny. Maybe you enjoy riding your bike anyway, but after a 20 mile journey that ended in severe disappointment you're not going to look back on the day and say "Man, that was a great bike ride!".

You still sound like you don't like MSG4 simply because you don't want to like it. If you're really a fan of MGS, I highly suggest you play through it.

In some games the gameplay is enough, but in a game that beats you over the head with it's story every 5 minutes, it better be a good one or you're going to end up pissed off.

Personally, I didn't really care that much for the story as its anime like whackiness is and has always been way over the top for me. But the cutscenes are so polished, looking at them on my HD plasma tv was well worth it, even if I didn't really pay attention to Otacon's bitching and crying over the fact that he's still a virgin. It was overall digital sweetness!

Massive walls of quote and response posts and CarbonB isn't involved? WTF?

That's you all over Snoopy, a lot of talk and nothing to back it up.

There's this contract, I know the details, trust me, MGS4 can't come to 360 for a loong time

Where's the link?

Find it yourself


Eurogamer benchmarks every multiplatform title that comes out and finds the 360 versions to be superior far more often than the PS3 versions.

Don't trust em! Just don't man!

But they're a reliable, unbiased news source?

Still don't trust them. I perceived that the PS3 version is better and so it must be so, fuck cold hard facts!


Where are the posts where I fabricate things about the PS3?

All of them, can't find any, but all of them lololol

Just shut the fuck up.

I'll read through all this later -_- I have a report to do and anime episodes to watch.

Edit: I still read through it all... couldn't resist.

Mean I think the 'power logo' speaks for itself, something to do with the 360 is being released. I bet it's like MGS 4: Substance and all you PSfagz (*looks at XeNobiTe)will be owned. XeNobiTe may be able to pull shit statements out of thin air to counteract this rumor... but again the images speak for themselves.

http://www.play-girlz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/xbox-360-power-button.jpg http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7500/29649843jo7.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa112/dcemureviews/ps3irfront.jpg
Mean why drop an obvious clue that points towards the PS3? The green is a giveaway too...

Actually I'm even less sure what it means now... I'm going to go do that report now... or maybe I'll do it tomorrow -_-

Yes, You Don't See; we realize that it is strikingly similar to the 360's indication light. but the point is, that symbol is universal, as well as it's color. if it were a big "X" it would be a better clue; yet an even bigger clue would be if it were red, instead of green (as in RRoD, biatch).

if it were to go 360, it wouldn't mean exclusively. it would just be PS3/360, perhaps even PC. it would be an enhanced version like Substance/Subsistence, gone multiconsole just like MGS2:Substance.

speculation now has it that "MGST' stands for "Metal Gear Solid Touch". the "i" as in "ipod (touch)". "!" meaning "alert" (as anyone who's ever played an MGS would know), and the symbol (along with the font color) meaning 'active/in the works'. Kojima/Konami have a close relation with Mac anyhow, as obvious in MGS4.

if this is the case, I'm not excited. but agh, I HATE cryptic messages. especially when it comes to MGS!!

Yes, You Don't See; we realize that it is strikingly similar to the 360's indication light. but the point is, that symbol is universal, as well as it's color. if it were a big "X" it would be a better clue; yet an even bigger clue would be if it were red, instead of green (as in RRoD, biatch).

if it were to go 360, it wouldn't mean exclusively. it would just be PS3/360, perhaps even PC. it would be an enhanced version like Substance/Subsistence, gone multiconsole just like MGS2:Substance.

speculation now has it that "MGST' stands for "Metal Gear Solid Touch". the "i" as in "ipod (touch)". "!" meaning "alert" (as anyone who's ever played an MGS would know), and the symbol (along with the font color) meaning 'active/in the works'. Kojima/Konami have a close relation with Mac anyhow, as obvious in MGS4.

if this is the case, I'm not excited. but agh, I HATE cryptic messages. especially when it comes to MGS!!


I swear if it comes out for that fagmachine iPhone I will personally hunt down and kill the chink behind the MGS games.

besides, if MGS was going 360, MS would jump up and blurt it out ASAP, rather than have Konami break it gently in cryptic symbolic equations, on a page that no-one ever visits anyway, due to only being updated every 3 years, or so.

besides, if MGS was going 360, MS would jump up and blurt it out ASAP, rather than have Konami break it gently in cryptic symbolic equations, on a page that no-one ever visits anyway, due to only being updated every 3 years, or so.

That only leaves the gayass iPhone, and my promise still stands.

oh, and does anyone remember Kojima's miro-complaint about having to compress MGS4 to fit the 50GB dual layer Bluray?

well...the 14 layer, 400GB Blurays go public in 2010. just in time for MGS5, baby.


I imagine you could take up a 50 GB dual layer Blu-Ray disc with 9 hours of uncompressed HD cutscenes...

I can't wait to laugh when those 400GB Blu-Ray discs go on sale. I imagine half of your hard drive will be used up with just one game install, because the PS3 can't fucking read the disc fast enough.


Speaking of PS3, when the hell is the new Twisted Metal game coming out? I'll buy a PS3 when that hits the street.

^ sometime next year.

That's you all over Snoopy, a lot of talk and nothing to back it up.

There's this contract, I know the details, trust me, MGS4 can't come to 360 for a loong time

Where's the link?

Find it yourself


Eurogamer benchmarks every multiplatform title that comes out and finds the 360 versions to be superior far more often than the PS3 versions.

Don't trust em! Just don't man!

But they're a reliable, unbiased news source?

Still don't trust them. I perceived that the PS3 version is better and so it must be so, fuck cold hard facts!


Where are the posts where I fabricate things about the PS3?

All of them, can't find any, but all of them lololol

Just shut the fuck up.

Well there still isn't any 360 version of MGS4. You come back around when it does get released and lol all you like. I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you though.

Also, yes benchmarks are done by halfwits to support dumbass fanfag wars. A perfect example of that would have to be Orange Box for the PS3. It got burned down by pretty much every "independent" gaming news source as a big steaming pile of low fps crap. Well, I own the Orange Box for the PS3 and really I wonder if they've even played through the entire game.

It both looks and runs fine. In fact, I was amazed by it, as I bought it after reading a dozen of poor reviews about it. I expected huge hiccups, lockups and slowdowns and even crashes. Lucky for me, I've never encountered any of them, safe for hiccups at a one point in one of the levels. And it wasn't even haltering the gameplay.

So there. I never trust any reviews, no matter what the source is. They bitched about the Far Cry 2 version of PS3. I have that, guess what. Runs perfectly and looks absolutely stunning.

So, if you still want to be a biased fanfag, don't let me stop you. At least you have the solace of knowing that gaming website will back up your fabricated views. It's just too bad they get in the way of you actually having some fun on a system.

the one you don't see: who the fuck is this nub?

Well there still isn't any 360 version of MGS4. You come back around when it does get released and lol all you like. I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you though.

Also, yes benchmarks are done by halfwits to support dumbass fanfag wars. A perfect example of that would have to be Orange Box for the PS3. It got burned down by pretty much every "independent" gaming news source as a big steaming pile of low fps crap. Well, I own the Orange Box for the PS3 and really I wonder if they've even played through the entire game.

It both looks and runs fine. In fact, I was amazed by it, as I bought it after reading a dozen of poor reviews about it. I expected huge hiccups, lockups and slowdowns and even crashes. Lucky for me, I've never encountered any of them, safe for hiccups at a one point in one of the levels. And it wasn't even haltering the gameplay.

So there. I never trust any reviews, no matter what the source is. They bitched about the Far Cry 2 version of PS3. I have that, guess what. Runs perfectly and looks absolutely stunning.

So, if you still want to be a biased fanfag, don't let me stop you. At least you have the solace of knowing that gaming website will back up your fabricated views. It's just too bad they get in the way of you actually having some fun on a system.

the one you don't see: who the fuck is this nub?

nub? I'm the man who will put a piece of metal in the head of the creator of MGS, since he's most likely going to be a sellout fag to the other rich fags who prance around with their worthless iPhones. What a discrace to put a game of that caliber on the fucking iPhone.

SO FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY PS3!!! If it's so good how come the 360 outsold it 3:1? Huh? I'm waiting.

FUCK KOJIMA THAT FUKCING FOX HUMPER!!! AND FUUUUCK MGS!!! GUESS WHAT SNAAAAAAKE I'M YOUR TRANSVESTITE FATHER WITH AN EVIL ARM GRAFTED ONTO MY EYEBALL!!!!

WHAT LIQUID!!!!

SOLIDDDDDD SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!

LIQUID????

SOLID....

*THEY EMBRACE LIKE FAGZ*

Disregarding the color scheme of the site, I'd say that's more likely to be a Wii-port of Metal Gear Solid.

SO FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY PS3!!! If it's so good how come the 360 outsold it 3:1? Huh? I'm waiting.

oh, and Beverly Hills Chihuahua held #1 at Box Office for a few weeks, month before last.

sales don't mean shit.

oh, and Beverly Hills Chihuahua held #1 at Box Office for a few weeks, month before last.

sales don't mean shit.

They only do when your own console is winning MIRITE

oh, and Beverly Hills Chihuahua held #1 at Box Office for a few weeks, month before last.

sales don't mean shit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=322769

Yeah keep telling yourself that :rolleyes: The PS3 is actually SUPERIOR since it doesn't sell, forgive my stupidity.

Edit: Forgive the link I'll just leave it there... I thought you were doubting that 3:1 ratio and I was too for a bit, but upon reading your post again I see you're just a fucktard fanboy that bawwws that the PS3 has both a limited library and sales but doesn't admit it.

nub? I'm the man who will put a piece of metal in the head of the creator of MGS, since he's most likely going to be a sellout fag to the other rich fags who prance around with their worthless iPhones. What a discrace to put a game of that caliber on the fucking iPhone.

SO FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR SHITTY PS3!!! If it's so good how come the 360 outsold it 3:1? Huh? I'm waiting.

FUCK KOJIMA THAT FUKCING FOX HUMPER!!! AND FUUUUCK MGS!!! GUESS WHAT SNAAAAAAKE I'M YOUR TRANSVESTITE FATHER WITH AN EVIL ARM GRAFTED ONTO MY EYEBALL!!!!

WHAT LIQUID!!!!

SOLIDDDDDD SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!

LIQUID????

SOLID....

*THEY EMBRACE LIKE FAGZ*


Slow down Albert. You`re about to get a stroke... :o

Well there still isn't any 360 version of MGS4. You come back around when it does get released and lol all you like. I wouldn't hold my breath for it if I were you though.

Also, yes benchmarks are done by halfwits to support dumbass fanfag wars. A perfect example of that would have to be Orange Box for the PS3. It got burned down by pretty much every "independent" gaming news source as a big steaming pile of low fps crap. Well, I own the Orange Box for the PS3 and really I wonder if they've even played through the entire game.

It both looks and runs fine. In fact, I was amazed by it, as I bought it after reading a dozen of poor reviews about it. I expected huge hiccups, lockups and slowdowns and even crashes. Lucky for me, I've never encountered any of them, safe for hiccups at a one point in one of the levels. And it wasn't even haltering the gameplay.

So there. I never trust any reviews, no matter what the source is. They bitched about the Far Cry 2 version of PS3. I have that, guess what. Runs perfectly and looks absolutely stunning.

So, if you still want to be a biased fanfag, don't let me stop you. At least you have the solace of knowing that gaming website will back up your fabricated views. It's just too bad they get in the way of you actually having some fun on a system.

the one you don't see: who the fuck is this nub?

And again, an entire post that's the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALA".

Nothing to back up what you say, and apparently every media outlet out there is in on a conspiracy to put your beloved PS3 down.

Sure, maybe Orange Box PS3 runs fine for you, if you don't notice incredibly low framerates in some of the games, but even if you're too much of a biased fanboy to notice it, it doesn't mean the game doesn't run poorly. Hell, even Valve themselves have admitted it was a terrible port that runs like shit.

Here's an excerpt from Eurogamer's Orange Box Review:

Dipping into the graphically more challenging Episode One, the game initially still manages to impress, matching the 720p/30 performance of Xbox 360 seemingly with few problems. However, the deeper you move into the game, the more the frame rate issues intrude on the experience. Catching falling debris with the gravity gun becomes an exercise in anticipating lag as the frame rate dives dramatically. Fierce firefights can become a slideshow. Death is your constant companion not necessarily because of your lack of gaming ability but because you literally can't see what's going on - the PlayStation 3 is simply not giving you enough visual information to work with.

But while Episode One is decent enough and just about bearable even when things go pear-shaped, its sequel is essentially a complete write-off. The Source Engine is pushed to its limits in Episode Two, rendering scenes far more complex than any seen in the previous Half-Life games. It looks absolutely gorgeous, but on PlayStation 3, the drop in frame rate is always with you, kicking in right from the beginning and rarely letting up.

They made that all up right? They're fighting the man and trying to make the little guy look good with their propaganda right? Sony of course being the man and Microsoft being the little guy :rolleyes:.

And again, an entire post that's the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALA".

Nothing to back up what you say, and apparently every media outlet out there is in on a conspiracy to put your beloved PS3 down.

Sure, maybe Orange Box PS3 runs fine for you, if you don't notice incredibly low framerates in some of the games, but even if you're too much of a biased fanboy to notice it, it doesn't mean the game doesn't run poorly. Hell, even Valve themselves have admitted it was a terrible port that runs like shit.

No one here is being a fanboy of the PS3. The point is your blatant and unfounded hate towards it.

And Valve has no right to comment on the PS3 version of Orange Box as they have openly admitted that their programmers suck too hard to properly port the game to the PS3. But Valve lost my respect back when they failed to support opengl with half life 2.

If you so badly hate the PS3, I might record a few minutes of Orange Box on it later when I get home. I`m pretty sure you haven`t played it yourself. You so blindly follow the crap you read about it on the internets.

I didn't read through everything, so if it's been mentioned already, then fucking oh well. Does anyone else remember Rabb posting an article about something in MGS4 being unlocked around Christmas time? Like on a certain day Konami would release some patch, and it was supposed to unlock more of the story.

I'd like to see this video myself. Record Episode 2 considering it is supposed to be unplayable....

I didn't read through everything, so if it's been mentioned already, then fucking oh well. Does anyone else remember Rabb posting an article about something in MGS4 being unlocked around Christmas time? Like on a certain day Konami would release some patch, and it was supposed to unlock more of the story.

i think it was speculated that since snake only had 6 months to live after MGS4, and december 12 would be exactly 6 months since the game's release. we'll see soon enough.

No one here is being a fanboy of the PS3.

It's blatantly obvious to anyone with even a modicum of sense that you are.

If you so badly hate the PS3, I might record a few minutes of Orange Box on it later when I get home. I`m pretty sure you haven`t played it yourself. You so blindly follow the crap you read about it on the internets.

Go ahead, cherry pick a scene from one of the games and show it running fine.

But I've seen it running at a terrible framerate with my own eyes, and there's a reason it's widely regarded as one of the worst ports this generation. And it's definitely not smoke and mirrors, it's not some big conspiracy as you seem to believe, it's just a really poor port, end of fucking story. The more you try to deny it, the more like a pitiful Sony fluffer you look.

Maybe it's a new 12 hour long unskippable documentary about nanomachines and METAL GEAR?! :rolleyes:

Maybe it's a new 12 hour long unskippable documentary about nanomachines and METAL GEAR?! :rolleyes:

No, they already released that.

It's called MGS4.

It's blatantly obvious to anyone with even a modicum of sense that you are.

By that same logic I could say that you`re a pc and 360 fanboy.

Go ahead, cherry pick a scene from one of the games and show it running fine.

But I've seen it running at a terrible framerate with my own eyes, and there's a reason it's widely regarded as one of the worst ports this generation. And it's definitely not smoke and mirrors, it's not some big conspiracy as you seem to believe, it's just a really poor port, end of fucking story. The more you try to deny it, the more like a pitiful Sony fluffer you look.

Looks like I shouldn`t even bother, as you seem to have already made up your mind. It`s your loss after all, not mine.

I`m sure you opinion is more valind than mine. What, with all the extensive benchmarks you`ve seen on jewtube on the orange box. The fact that I`ve played through the entire thing on the PS3 isn`t valid at all as I`m a fanboy and fanboys clearly can`t see a poor frame rate... :rolleyes:

Oooooh noez :o

By that same logic I could say that you`re a pc and 360 fanboy.

I thought everyone around here said I was a Wii fanboy? And before that, a PSP fanboy. In the L4D thread I was a PC fanboy putting the 360 down. In this thread I'm a 360 fanboy putting the PS3 down. In the endless DS vs PSP threads I was a Sony fanboy putting Nintendo down. In the Wii threads I was a Nintendo fanboy unable to see what a gimmick it all was.

Am I fanboy for Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft? Is that possible?

Looks like I shouldn`t even bother, as you seem to have already made up your mind.

Yeah, when you watch something happen it's kind of hard not to take it for reality, unless you're on hallucinogens. But yeah, I think I'm going to take the word of every reputable website that reviewed the game, and what I've seen with my own two eyes, over your conjecture.

The fact that I`ve played through the entire thing on the PS3 isn`t valid at all as I`m a fanboy and fanboys clearly can`t see a poor frame rate...

Sadly, that's pretty much it.

Unless you have some magic PS3 that runs The Orange Box better than every other PS3 on the face of the planet, you're either a liar or you're ignoring the truth.

I thought everyone around here said I was a Wii fanboy? And before that, a PSP fanboy. In the L4D thread I was a PC fanboy putting the 360 down. In this thread I'm a 360 fanboy putting the PS3 down. In the endless DS vs PSP threads I was a Sony fanboy putting Nintendo down. In the Wii threads I was a Nintendo fanboy unable to see what a gimmick it all was.

Am I fanboy for Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft? Is that possible?

My point exactly. The word fanboy is dropped to easily. I have been having a lot of fun lately on my PS3. Does that make me a fanboy. I certainly am no whore for Sony (lik-sang bullshit). If I didn`t get my PS3 for free I probably wouldn`t have bought one either. I still can`t deny that it`s pretty good system.


Yeah, when you watch something happen it's kind of hard not to take it for reality, unless you're on hallucinogens. But yeah, I think I'm going to take the word of every reputable website that reviewed the game, and what I've seen with my own two eyes, over your conjecture.

Yes, on average reputable websites have rated the Orange Box for the PS3 with 8.9. I`m sure games that run like a one legged dog get an average of 8.9

Sadly, that's pretty much it.

Unless you have some magic PS3 that runs The Orange Box better than every other PS3 on the face of the planet, you're either a liar or you're ignoring the truth.

I am neither. You get carried away by poor reviews and stupid fanboys that blow shit out of proportion. JUST like that pic of MGS4 needing 50 dvds. Sure, if MGS4 got ported to the 360 it would need a few dvds. Would it need 50? No. Sure, the Orange Box has minor performance related hiccups at a few spots. Does this makethe game shitty and unplayable? Not at all. GTA IV for both consoles gets hiccups far more often than the Orange Box gets on the PS3. Does anyone actually bitch about GTA IV`s hiccups? Nope, they just enjoy they game.

I`ll make you a video when I get the time and see if you are a reasonable person or a cunt.

Does anyone else remember Rabb posting an article about something in MGS4 being unlocked around Christmas time? Like on a certain day Konami would release some patch, and it was supposed to unlock more of the story.

i think it was speculated that since snake only had 6 months to live after MGS4, and december 12 would be exactly 6 months since the game's release. we'll see soon enough.

This.

6 days left if true.

If I didn`t get my PS3 for free I probably wouldn`t have bought one either. I still can`t deny that it`s pretty good system.

Yeah, and if you'd actually went through my post history and looked, instead of spouting off bullshit about me spreading lies about the PS3, you would have realized that I've never said the PS3 isn't a good system. It's got some good features, and it's a lot more reliable than the 360.

But it also doesn't have very many good exclusives, and certainly not many I'm personally interested in. It doesn't really matter to me if it's built like a rock and does all sorts of other cool shit if it doesn't have any games I really want to play.

I am neither. You get carried away by poor reviews and stupid fanboys that blow shit out of proportion. JUST like that pic of MGS4 needing 50 dvds. Sure, if MGS4 got ported to the 360 it would need a few dvds. Would it need 50? No. Sure, the Orange Box has minor performance related hiccups at a few spots. Does this makethe game shitty and unplayable? Not at all. GTA IV for both consoles gets hiccups far more often than the Orange Box gets on the PS3. Does anyone actually bitch about GTA IV`s hiccups? Nope, they just enjoy they game.

What about the pic of the DVD's? How did I let myself get "carried away" by it? It was a stupid joke, nothing more. It doesn't make sense for you to say I'm getting "carried away", when you're typing paragraph after paragraph defending the PS3.

Yes, on average reputable websites have rated the Orange Box for the PS3 with 8.9. I`m sure games that run like a one legged dog get an average of 8.9

But you're also ignoring the fact that the game scored an average of 9.6 on the other consoles. And the only reason for the disparity? The poor performance of the PS3 port.

The thing is, the game was still a great value, because HL2 wasn't really affected by the poor performance (since it used no new tech), and EP1 only performed poorly intermittently. Episode 2 however, performed poorly throughout nearly the entire game, because it was pushing the hardware the most. But even with the poor performance, it was still 5 great games for $60, and even if it slowed to a chug often, it would be hard for any media outlet to give it a terrible score. I never claimed the PS3 version was unplayable, just that it was vastly inferior.

This is reflected in IGN's score, where the PS3 versions lost more than a point off it's score:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/840/840505p3.html

The remainder of our criticisms are to blame for the discrepancy in scores between the PlayStation 3 version of the game and the 360 version (the PS3 version, after all, wasn't handled entirely by Valve). The PlayStation 3 Orange Box performs far worse, and this fact just isn't up for debate. While framerate issues aren't as problematic in Half-Life 2 and Episode One, Episode Two suffers a great deal, especially during the episode's larger battles. We regret to say that some sections border on being unplayable because of the stutters, which often cause your aim to be thrown off and timing shots to be very difficult. The problem isn't persistent throughout, but when it hits, it hits hard.

More troubling still is the difference in load times. Almost all the PS3 load times are at least five seconds more than the 360, but loading a saved game/loading after death is particularly awful. These clock in at about two to three times as long as the 360 version, which slows down the gameplay considerably. Even though the PS3 Orange Box sports a quicksave feature, any benefit of this option is lost considering the overall abundance of loading.


Even in Portal, a short title that often requires a little trial and error, this problem is massive. The 360 version takes about three seconds to load your last checkpoint if you die. The PS3 version takes seventeen. It hurts.

Well obviously, the PC and 360 version will be better in terms of performance. I never said they weren`t. You were just going on about how the game runs like absolute crap, which is a lie. I have every half life and half life 2 game on the PC. Why buy it for the PS3 then you might ask yourself? I just wanted to try playing it from my big seat with a controller. And guess what, it was pretty damn awesome.

You were just going on about how the game runs like absolute crap, which is a lie.

Two media outlets talking about sections that are rendered almost entirely unplayable because of the poor performance? Sounds like absolutely crap to me. When the poor framerate affects your ability to aim, that's where I draw the line.

But they were just lying and exaggerating right?

Why buy it for the PS3 then you might ask yourself? I just wanted to try playing it from my big seat with a controller. And guess what, it was pretty damn awesome.

You can do that on PC too if you're so inclined. I've played plenty of PC games with a controller while lying on my bed.

Two media outlets talking about sections that are rendered almost entirely unplayable because of the poor performance? Sounds like absolutely crap to me. When the poor framerate affects your ability to aim, that's where I draw the line.

But they were just lying and exaggerating right?

In my experience? Yes they were. At no point was the game rendered unplayable by poor performance. How else could I have completed it?

You can do that on PC too if you're so inclined. I've played plenty of PC games with a controller while lying on my bed.

No I can't. I don't want a PC in my living room. I don't want my tv hooked up to a PC. I cringe at the thought of having to control shit with a mouse behind the tv. It's mindnumbingly irritating having to boot a pc, log in and doubleclick an icon on the deskop from behind when I'm lying down on my couch. Also, the graphics cards in my pcs are somewhat against standard tv resolutions. I don't feel like hoping my nvidia drivers won't screw up or dicking around with aspect ratios and whatnot. I'm tech savvy and all, but when it comes to this type of shit I'm lazy as hell. Is it that much to ask when I plug in my dvi cable that an option for 1920x1080 becomes default? I guess it is.

I could get over all of this but it's just so much easier with a console. And the PS3's version of Orange Box didn't ruin my Half Life 2 experience over that on the PC. I quite enjoyed it.

who let the Opiate off the leash? Thank god.

Why are you guys arguing? The person who started this argument (Kojima) will die by my hands. Fear not, I will fulfill my destiny and KILL THE FAGGY IPHONE!!!!

Why are you guys arguing? The person who started this argument (Kojima) will die by my hands. Fear not, I will fulfill my destiny and KILL THE FAGGY IPHONE!!!!

You Go Girl!

You Go Girl!

I HATE THOSE RICH FAGZ WITH THEIR IPHONES!!!! THEY WILL BUUUUURN WHEN THEY CAN'T' PLAY AC!D ON IT.

>< TIME TO DIE KOJIMA!!!!

I bet i would get to be mentioned on Xplay if I do it... Morgan will say my name :3

TO JAPAN!!!!

Of course, there's also a new DS coming out called the DSi. It's touch as well.

I HATE THOSE RICH FAGZ WITH THEIR IPHONES!!!!


You're just jealous because you don't have an iPhone.

Of course, there's also a new DS coming out called the DSi. It's touch as well.

but the DSi is just a subdivision of the DS. The DSi won't have any exclusive games... at least I hope it won't. I wouldn't leave it out of nintendos shit bag for them to pull something like that.

You're just jealous because you don't have an iPhone.

Fuck you. FUCK YOU. I'M NOT JEALOUS OF THAT FAGGY OVERPRICED, WOTHLESS THING!!!

you're a fucktard, you know that. I HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH!!! FUCK YOU!!!!

kOJIMAZ WILL BURN IF HE MAKES IT FOR IPHONE
ONCE I AM SHOT DOWN BY JAPANESE POLICE I CAN BE WITH NAMI-SWAAAN MY TRUE LOVE
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/ManCalledLogi/Nami_face.jpg <3 <3 <3 :3

Fuck you. FUCK YOU. I'M NOT JEALOUS OF THAT FAGGY OVERPRICED, WOTHLESS THING!!!

you're a fucktard, you know that. I HATE YOU SO FUCKING MUCH!!! FUCK YOU!!!!

Steady on the caps. In fact, just slow down altogether or you will be taking a long nap.

Steady on the caps. In fact, just slow down altogether or you will be taking a long nap.

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU TWAT!!! TWAT TWAT TWAT!!!

When I take down K., you'll be sorry. Then your faggy machine won't get MGS5 ahahhaahahahaahah

http://www.absoluteanime.com/one_piece/nami3.jpg I HATE THIS WORLD I WANT NAMI :(

I HATE THIS WORLD

A quick blow to the head with a ball peen hammer can fix that.

A quick blow to the head with a ball peen hammer can fix that.

K... then will I be with Nami 4ever?

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w286/ManCalledLogi/Nami_face.jpg <3 <3 <3

I <3 her so much :(

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/holy_shit_iphone2.gif

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No I can't. I don't want a PC in my living room. I don't want my tv hooked up to a PC. I cringe at the thought of having to control shit with a mouse behind the tv.

You can use PS controllers with computers, 360 controllers too. I know what you're saying about the unsuitability of it all though.

I didn't read past the second page....

i hope it comes out for the 360, i don't hate the ps3, its just i don't want to buy one just for one game, although that was my original plan

Metal Gear Solid Touch for iPod.

Metal Gear Solid Touch for iPod.

Wuts Dat? MGS4 is getting closer to the 360, you say?

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

Wuts Dat? MGS4 is getting closer to the 360, you say?

Yeah. by moving to something by Apple.

besides, if MGS was going 360, MS would jump up and blurt it out ASAP, rather than have Konami break it gently in cryptic symbolic equations, on a page that no-one ever visits anyway, due to only being updated every 3 years, or so.

because the halo projects that sold the console were introduced by microsoft themselves, and not by criptic messages on websites "no-one" goes to....

Yeah. by moving to something by Apple.

Hey, at least it's away from Sony.

Hardly at all. MGS4 is full of Sony and Apple product placement. The two are closely related, despite their small rivalry in the device market.

I can't believe he's moving MGS to a shitty phone that only rich douches own. It's going to be some crap sniping game too, and will hardly be considered 'MGS'.