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The Divinity of Racism
2008-12-06, 00:13
I'm really tired of "atheists" who celebrate Christmas. They often say that they "won't turn a gift down", that's bullshit. In order to be offered a gift, you have to show up at the Christmas tree, you have to go to your grandmother's house; otherwise you will not be offered a gift. If you accept a gift awarded to you on Christmas, you are celebrating CHRISTmas, a Christian holiday. It is a CHRISTian holiday, and it always will be. You cannot bend the rules and redefine it as a secular or nondenominational holiday, and if anyone makes an attempt to do so in my thread I will lash you so severely that you offer your account up for gives. There is no reasoning for this bullshit, if you partake in Christmas you are a Christian and you cannot claim to be ANYTHING else, period. Everyone is such a greedy fucking attention whore that does this shit for the drama, you aren't a fucking Atheist or non-Christian if you accept gifts and celebrate this gay ass holiday.

ªŞe×
2008-12-06, 00:18
Maybe you should go back in time 1500 years and tell christians they can't bend the rules of pagan religions and change the winter solstice to the birth of christ.

Metaphysicist
2008-12-06, 01:07
Why shouldn't they be able to enjoy the festivities of the secular side of it?

23
2008-12-06, 01:09
1) Christmas is largely pagan, as other poster stated.

2) Christmas has transcended religion and is an institution in Western society. It is more about giving than Jesus's b-day.

http://www.essortment.com/all/christmaspagan_rece.htm

Read it, fool.

Metaphysicist
2008-12-06, 01:24
1) Christmas is largely pagan, as other poster stated.

2) Christmas has transcended religion and is an institution in Western society. It is more about giving than Jesus's b-day.

http://www.essortment.com/all/christmaspagan_rece.htm

Read it, fool.


Christmas is just another example of how Christianity is full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

It is well accepted these days that Christ had to have been born in Spring. The only reason we celebrate it in December is because that is about the time of the old pagan Winter feast days. When the first Christian missionaries came around, they knew they weren't going to get many converts if they took away their holidays.

So instead, they co opted them.

Bckpckr
2008-12-06, 02:09
I don't celebrate Christmas and would gladly shoot any atheist that gets all heavy into that shit. American consumerism at its worst.

Angry Blue Bird of Death
2008-12-06, 05:13
Atheists piss me the fuck off :mad: and this one of the reasons why.

The Methematician
2008-12-06, 07:02
I'm a devout moslem and I celebrate christmas and exchange gifts with my non-moslem friends all the time, what's wrong with that ??

I don't think you have to be a believer of Christ to celebrate christmas...it's just a holiday. FACT is ... you don't have to have a certain religion to celebrate a NATIONAL holiday....and any activities associated with it...

LuKaZz420
2008-12-06, 09:22
SKS+Mall at Christmas time= entertaining news for us to watch at home.

I hate all these festivities as well, I never usually do anything this time of year, last Christmas I came back home to spend it with my folks and it sucked majorly, I hate it when you're being forced to be merry about something you don't feel anything for.

Usually I just sit around the house on my own, watch movies, drink beer, get baked, that's about it.

Also I never buy any presents and I turn down presents from other people, the first few times you do this you can risk seriously offending people, but I don't care, I've been doing it for years now.

Iehovah
2008-12-06, 17:41
Christmas is an insult to the Christian religion and should be enjoyed as such.

Otherwise, shed a tear and slit a wrist.

nimajneb92
2008-12-06, 17:48
Christmas is no longer celebrated for it's religious reasons, but nowadays for its consumerism. It's just a reason for most people to be happy and exchange gifts. If you want you could go into the religious part, but nothing is wrong with forcing someone to not enjoy the spirit.

ZeroMalarki
2008-12-06, 18:20
Christmas is just another example of how Christianity is full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

It is well accepted these days that Christ had to have been born in Spring. The only reason we celebrate it in December is because that is about the time of the old pagan Winter feast days. When the first Christian missionaries came around, they knew they weren't going to get many converts if they took away their holidays.

So instead, they co opted them.

Its to replace Yule

Glasgowsweeman
2008-12-06, 18:28
If there is no God-he isnt going to care an atheist attended his celebration...only christifags will moan and no one cares about them...:mad:

hurryupanbuy3
2008-12-06, 18:32
So what your saying is, if your an atheist you should not accept any gifts from your relatives because you don't believe in god? Fuck that i'm not going to turn down 200-300 dollars worth of stuff because i don't believe in god. Christians need to stfu!

Silverfuck
2008-12-06, 18:34
It's people like you who create this atmosphere of inter-religion division which leads to religiously-motivated conflict.
We are all human beings, and our religious affiliation is such a shallow thing that I cannot believe that people allow it to divide humanity so intensely. It's has nothing to do with whether Christmas is a Christian holiday or not, it has to do with the fact that hating the majority of the world's population due to what they believe, and hating every aspect of religious culture, including a celebratory holiday that, while may generally involve an orgy of consumerism, also brings people together, is fucking retarded, and you are a fucking retard. Saying that atheists shouldn't partake in Christmas is like saying that white people shouldn't eat Indian food; it's illogical and ignorant, and deprives people of a perfectly good experience.

The Return
2008-12-07, 02:11
It's people like you who create this atmosphere of inter-religion division which leads to religiously-motivated conflict.
We are all human beings, and our religious affiliation is such a shallow thing that I cannot believe that people allow it to divide humanity so intensely. It's has nothing to do with whether Christmas is a Christian holiday or not, it has to do with the fact that hating the majority of the world's population due to what they believe, and hating every aspect of religious culture, including a celebratory holiday that, while may generally involve an orgy of consumerism, also brings people together, is fucking retarded, and you are a fucking retard. Saying that atheists shouldn't partake in Christmas is like saying that white people shouldn't eat Indian food; it's illogical and ignorant, and deprives people of a perfectly good experience.

Shut up you stupid ass sellout consumerist cunt. And no, race is something one has no hand in choosing so it's not like saying a white shouldn't eat Indian food. You just want presents you spoiled little bitch. Hopefully someone will buy you some flash cards.

And religious affiliation isn't superficial at all and that's because of the very argument you just made. If this were REAL CHRISTIAN times your cunt would be resting on a cross and your ass would be burnt to a crisp and rightfully so you dumbass family values want-to-be social hippy ass faggot bitch cunt.

The Return
2008-12-07, 02:17
So what your saying is, if your an atheist you should not accept any gifts from your relatives because you don't believe in god? Fuck that i'm not going to turn down 200-300 dollars worth of stuff because i don't believe in god. Christians need to stfu!

You see this is just it every little teenage "atheist" faggot out there is just a wannabe, doing it for the attention and because it's "cool". Perhaps you would have noticed I am an atheist had you read the thread.

PirateJoe
2008-12-07, 02:22
You see this is just it every little teenage "atheist" faggot out there is just a wannabe, doing it for the attention and because it's "cool". Perhaps you would have noticed I am an atheist had you read the thread.

What, you don't like good food, good company, and good gifts? Who gives a fuck who's messiah was born on what day, I'm down.

The Return
2008-12-07, 02:23
FACT is ... you don't have to have a certain religion to celebrate a NATIONAL holiday....and any activities associated with it...

HAHA! Then why don't these same faggot Atheists celebrate national prayer day, national bible week, Easter, lent and all of these other glorious Christian unconstitutional holidays? OH YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING IN IT FOR THEM. THEY ARE ALL SELFISH WANNABE FAGGOTS.

The Return
2008-12-07, 02:24
What, you don't like good food, good company, and good gifts? Who gives a fuck who's messiah was born on what day, I'm down.

Selfish faggot, worthless, wannabe, family values prick, good for nothing, poser, in it for the attention.


And no I do not like being in the company of theists.

And no the food is not good.

The presents are meaningless, oooh I got a nice alarm clock and a pair of clothes I don't like! Wonderful!!! GO JESUS I'M A CHRISTIAN!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.... SIILLLEENTT NIGHTTTTT.

The weather sucks, the season sucks, the people suck, the religious holiday SUCKS.

PirateJoe
2008-12-07, 02:42
Selfish faggot, worthless, wannabe, family values prick, good for nothing, poser, in it for the attention.


And no I do not like being in the company of theists.

And no the food is not good.

The presents are meaningless, oooh I got a nice alarm clock and a pair of clothes I don't like! Wonderful!!! GO JESUS I'M A CHRISTIAN!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.... SIILLLEENTT NIGHTTTTT.

The weather sucks, the season sucks, the people suck, the religious holiday SUCKS.

http://www.sew-custom-embroidery.com/images/bah%20humbug%20scrooge2.jpg

Marsh
2008-12-07, 02:50
So if someone walked up to you and told you it was part of their religion to give you a gift and handed you a present, you would turn it down?

The Return
2008-12-07, 02:57
Yes I would, and I do not understand what is so hard about that. I never buy anything for myself (maybe four times a year) aside from food. People are so god damned materialistic. And nothing is more certain in the book of fate that if I accepted that present and opened it, it would be an alarm clock or a fucking faggot ass tie or something. It's like this holiday is the real April Fool's Day, you get time off from hell for a time of celebrating the lord, faggot ass gay ass Christmas songs, bad food regarded as good, shitty weather, allergies and most importantly PRESENTS! Yet when you open the present it's just a reminder that you work in a faggot ass 9-5 job such as a tie or worst of all, a FUCKING GOD DAMNED ALARM CLOCK. FUCK. Why the FUCK would anyone give each other alarm clocks? Motherfucker that is so god damned insulting it makes me want to blow up a quartz mound or something.

Iehovah
2008-12-07, 04:33
HAHA! Then why don't these same faggot Atheists celebrate national prayer day, national bible week, Easter, lent and all of these other glorious Christian unconstitutional holidays? OH YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING IN IT FOR THEM. THEY ARE ALL SELFISH WANNABE FAGGOTS.

Face it, you're nothing more than an angry little kidiot, probably a newb-atheist, who wants to sit around crying about how horrible religion is and anyone who dares to disagree with you is evil scum, destroying the spirit of true atheism. Get the fuck over it.

Nothing wrong with a good dose of greed, especially when someone is sucker enough to play into it.

duckshit
2008-12-07, 04:36
if someones about to give me presents for christmas ill pretend to celebrate long enough to walk off with my free shit. jokes on you, jesus isnt real.

Silverfuck
2008-12-07, 04:57
Shut up you stupid ass sellout consumerist cunt. And no, race is something one has no hand in choosing so it's not like saying a white shouldn't eat Indian food. You just want presents you spoiled little bitch.

Well, I'm glad to know that you've got me all figured out.

Just so you know, I've told all of my family in friends to make charitable donations instead of giving me gifts. Go fall asleep in a burning building you sack of shit.

The Return
2008-12-07, 04:57
Face it, you're nothing more than an angry little kidiot, probably a newb-atheist, who wants to sit around crying about how horrible religion is and anyone who dares to disagree with you is evil scum, destroying the spirit of true atheism.


You're right and I'm also a fat fuck with long greasy hair who gets fucked in the ass by the gang members that live below me every time I want to go out for a walk. They share me around the apartment block like an object. I have no scholarly achievements or athletic talent or anything, in fact my teachers hated me so much they tried to bribe me in to dropping out of highschool. I'm just a regular old ugly ass loser with no direction in life. Enjoy your Christmas presents, I'm going to go down to the river to contemplate hanging myself, to escape my sexually abusive parents and my community as I do so on a regular basis.

The Return
2008-12-07, 04:58
Well, I'm glad to know that you've got me all figured out.

Just so you know, I've told all of my family in friends to make charitable donations instead of giving me gifts. Go fall asleep in a burning building you sack of shit.

Oohh, charity, aren't you a thoughtful little mysterious bitch.

Silverfuck
2008-12-07, 05:00
Oohh, charity, aren't you a thoughtful little mysterious bitch.

You're right, helping people in need is really deserving of your sarcasm. I'm glad you contribute so much to the world.

The Return
2008-12-07, 05:01
You're right, helping people in need is really deserving of your sarcasm. I'm glad you contribute so much to the world.

You aren't helping anyone in need, you're just telling people to donate to charity. Nice try though you conceited little cunt.

Silverfuck
2008-12-07, 05:03
You aren't helping anyone in need, you're just telling people to donate to charity. Nice try though you conceited little cunt.

And what do you do, I wonder, besides bitch about how everyone is such a cunt compared to you?

The Return
2008-12-07, 05:04
I contribute to a planet in need by not contributing to a maggot in need.

WritingANovel
2008-12-07, 05:19
And what do you do, I wonder, besides bitch about how everyone is such a cunt compared to you?

lol.

Dude, he's a troll, and he's been trolling you the whole time.

Iehovah
2008-12-07, 05:27
You're right and I'm also a fat fuck with long greasy hair who gets fucked in the ass by the gang members that live below me every time I want to go out for a walk. They share me around the apartment block like an object. I have no scholarly achievements or athletic talent or anything, in fact my teachers hated me so much they tried to bribe me in to dropping out of highschool. I'm just a regular old ugly ass loser with no direction in life. Enjoy your Christmas presents, I'm going to go down to the river to contemplate hanging myself, to escape my sexually abusive parents and my community as I do so on a regular basis.

Save yourself some effort and just slit your wrists now.

The Return
2008-12-07, 05:39
I would, but I don't know if I can reach them. I've just got so much damn bodyfat. My forearms are like fucking tree trunks.

Iehovah
2008-12-07, 05:47
I would, but I don't know if I can reach them. I've just got so much damn bodyfat. My forearms are like fucking tree trunks.

All you need is a flesh wound. With all that grease in your veins, you'll go up like a bonfire the second you light a match.

The Return
2008-12-07, 05:48
I didn't know human veins could accumulate grease.

Iehovah
2008-12-07, 05:52
I didn't know human veins could accumulate grease.

You're a medical marvel, I'm sure.

The Return
2008-12-07, 05:57
Why are you still posting in this thread?

Awesome McBadass
2008-12-07, 08:11
I just want to say that I'm a consumer whore.
I love material possessions and spending money; I'm not ashamed one bit to admit that.
I know I'm going to get some drawn out ramblings about "selling-out" and "big, greedy corporations" and all those other cliche ideas that people think is an individual, rebellious thought, when in reality, tons of people have the same cookie-cutter mentality.

Who gives a fuck about the reasons behind Christmas.
I'm an atheist, I'm gonna celebrate by eating food and getting gifts--deal with it.

The Return
2008-12-07, 08:17
I know I'm going to get some drawn out ramblings about "selling-out" and "big, greedy corporations" and all those other cliche ideas that people think is an individual, rebellious thought, when in reality, tons of people have the same cookie-cutter mentality.



...............................................

Awesome McBadass
2008-12-07, 08:22
...............................................

Exactly.
You have nothing since I already knew what you were going to say.

The Return
2008-12-07, 08:34
You have nothing since I already knew what you were going to say.

LOL, what the fuck are you babbling about?

hurryupanbuy3
2008-12-07, 13:52
You see this is just it every little teenage "atheist" faggot out there is just a wannabe, doing it for the attention and because it's "cool". Perhaps you would have noticed I am an atheist had you read the thread.

it's cool? atheists are one of the most hated minorities in the country. im an atheist because i dont believe in god or the bible or in any religion so fuck you

hurryupanbuy3
2008-12-07, 14:01
Selfish faggot, worthless, wannabe, family values prick, good for nothing, poser, in it for the attention.


And no I do not like being in the company of theists.

And no the food is not good.

The presents are meaningless, oooh I got a nice alarm clock and a pair of clothes I don't like! Wonderful!!! GO JESUS I'M A CHRISTIAN!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.... SIILLLEENTT NIGHTTTTT.

The weather sucks, the season sucks, the people suck, the religious holiday SUCKS.

sounds like this guy got molested by his parents one Christmas when he was little

The Return
2008-12-07, 14:27
im an atheist because i dont believe in god or the bible or in any religion

How ironic, so am I! So why the harsh attitude? Perhaps reading is not your forte?

hurryupanbuy3
2008-12-07, 17:34
hey you started it :)

Yggdrasil
2008-12-08, 04:27
it's cool? atheists are one of the most hated minorities in the country. im an atheist because i dont believe in god or the bible or in any religion so fuck you

That attitude's why half of America hates us. Smile politely, wave, then flip them off as they turn around.

In regards to the OP, people have celebrated during the Winter solstice for many millenia before Christianity. Why should we be the only jaded ones during the festivities?

The Return
2008-12-08, 04:45
That attitude's why half of America hates us. Smile politely, wave, then flip them off as they turn around.

In regards to the OP, people have celebrated during the Winter solstice for many millenia before Christianity. Why should we be the only jaded ones during the festivities?

It's not winter solstice it's Christmas and no that is not true and all of these pagan/Christmas isn't about Christ shit is really starting to annoy me, please never propagate these myths ever again.

The Return
2008-12-08, 04:46
Smile politely, wave, then flip them off as they turn around.


You are a coward.

Yggdrasil
2008-12-08, 05:03
It's not winter solstice it's Christmas and no that is not true and all of these pagan/Christmas isn't about Christ shit is really starting to annoy me, please never propagate these myths ever again.

Yes it is, and if you think otherwise you're bullshitting yourself. The early Christians converted most of Germanic and Celtic Europe by adapting the local mythologies to their own.

You are a coward.

I'm not a coward; I'm a realist. The fuckers who are intolerant of atheists won't listen to us if we are hostile, so all we can do is put up a façade while we secularize society and out-breed them. We'll rarely get through to them, so might as well pretend to live-and-let-live.

The Methematician
2008-12-08, 07:40
the lacks of promised lashing against non-christian celebrating x'mas renders this thread a phail thread.......

[/thread]

nshanin
2008-12-08, 18:47
Go to a department store. You will see idols. Idols of consumerism. There's no Jesus, only Santa. What use is there in arguing for "Merry Christmas" over "Happy holidays" if you take all of the essence out of it? Why don't you call it SantaFest? The only people who celebrate the birth of Christ are Christians; Christmas is for the rest of us.

the lacks of promised lashing against non-christian celebrating x'mas renders this thread a phail thread.......

[/thread]

That's for My God...

The Return
2008-12-08, 18:53
Go to a department store. You will see idols. Idols of consumerism. There's no Jesus, only Santa. What use is there in arguing for "Merry Christmas" over "Happy holidays" if you take all of the essence out of it? Why don't you call it SantaFest? The only people who celebrate the birth of Christ are Christians; Christmas is for the rest of us.


another child atheist. hahahahaha, you don't even have a say in what you do, you're 17 years old you live with your parents. you cant rebel they'll beat your little faggoty ass.

and i wouldn't go to a department store if i wanted to learn about christmas. idiot.

Awesome McBadass
2008-12-08, 18:53
Why don't you call it SantaFest?

I approve.

The Return
2008-12-08, 18:54
I like cock.

some badass

Awesome McBadass
2008-12-08, 18:56
some badass

:rolleyes:

nshanin
2008-12-08, 20:20
another child atheist. hahahahaha, you don't even have a say in what you do, you're 17 years old you live with your parents. you cant rebel they'll beat your little faggoty ass.
Who's the atheist? :confused:

and i wouldn't go to a department store if i wanted to learn about christmas. idiot.

Who said otherwise. I was just pointing out how Christmas is entirely secular in the mainstream US.

Runaway_Stapler
2008-12-09, 01:52
some badass

...said the uber hardcore dood who gets off insulting people on the internet!

SydMorrison
2008-12-09, 01:59
First, it's a Pagan holiday. Good effort on that one though.

Second, you guys must be fucking losers if you don't enjoy the company of anybody. Hell, it's probably better off that you DON'T celebrate it, because those people don't enjoy YOUR company either. You can probably rot in a garbage for all they care.

I'm an athiest, I celebrate Christmas. Don't like it? Fuck you then! I got free shit, and you didn't. Who said it's selfish? If anything, it's more selfish to openly reject the presents they offer you because you're on too high of a fucking horse to accept them.

Like I said, I'm an athiest. But this is why I hate alot of athiests as well - because they've got their heads so far up their asses that they can't see past their own shit when trying to do fucking ANYTHING.

Herr fucking Himmler. This Christmas turn up the oven to 350.

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-09, 02:18
lol.

Dude, he's a troll, and he's been trolling you the whole time.

was going to say that..

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-09, 02:23
First, it's a Pagan holiday. Good effort on that one though.

more links to back that up. The Tree is PAGAN.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_tree.htm

Second, you guys must be fucking losers if you don't enjoy the company of anybody.

I enjoy some peoples' company. Also im agnostic, not atheist :)

That attitude's why half of America hates us. Smile politely, wave, then flip them off as they turn around.

I think that's part of why many hate Atheists, (SOME OF) them being assholes (browsing a forum where 5-6 atheists simply jump religious people and the entire forum is full of 'em makes me understand why people HATE them. Part of it is religious bias. There is both sides being mean to each other

JustAnotherAsshole
2008-12-09, 02:25
Because it doesn't matter that I put aside a little bit of what money I do have to donate to the poor/homeless. You don't want me to celebrate Christmas because I don't believe in the silly, unimportant details of your faith.

Why shouldn't they be able to enjoy the festivities of the secular side of it?

Dude, because annoying religious cunts with nothing better to do say so. That's why.

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-09, 02:33
Selfish faggot, worthless, wannabe, family values prick, good for nothing, poser, in it for the attention.


PirateJoe may be a right-winger but he's not a "poser" or "in it for the attention"


And no the food is not good.


depends on the area and place for me.


The presents are meaningless, oooh I got a nice alarm clock and a pair of clothes I don't like! Wonderful!!! GO JESUS I'M A CHRISTIAN!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHE.... SIILLLEENTT NIGHTTTTT.


ask for money then


The weather sucks, the season sucks, the people suck, the religious holiday SUCKS.

It's actually nice to go around downtown Chicago (especially michigan avenue/state street) at night. and given night starts at 4-5 pm it's so pretty :).

Especially if it's snowing a little. Look in the air, the buildings, the pretty lights..... :)

If I had a girlfriend, it's be better though :(

But that might change by this thursday :)

I actually like the season and less sunlight. The bad parts of the winter (all the decaying leaves left-over is annoying, but that's if you walk in woods or somewhere similar. If you're on sidewalks it's better. Depends.

And depending on the people yes it can suck.

BrokeProphet
2008-12-09, 02:36
Christmas is all about Christ, huh?

Ask any 7 year old, who they would rather meet, Jesus or Santa Claus.

Christmas is about buying shit and getting shit. Christmas is more of a corporate function in our capitalist society than it is a religious function. It is more important to CEO's and shareholders, than it is to the average Christian, who may even ACTUALLY attend church once this year around this time.

Christmas never belonged to Christians, and still doesn't.

I tell you the problem is there are too many Christians and not enough lions.

How many of you "religious" folks actually get that without having to use your google button.

Happy Holidays!!!

nshanin
2008-12-09, 02:39
I tell you the problem is there are too many Christians and not enough lions.

That was a dick move.

The Return
2008-12-09, 03:03
Christmas is all about Christ, huh?

Ask any 7 year old, who they would rather meet, Jesus or Santa Claus.



LOL, once again, I would not go to a department store nor would I ask a seven year old if I was interested in the meaning of Christmas.

I'm not even going to get in to an argument with you idiots, it's clearly hopeless to attempt to enlighten you. But do take in to consideration a very basic reality here, even if Christian was of "pagan origins", you are not pagans either. Regardless of it's origins, they are all religious, and if you are an atheist participating in them is hypocritical, unfounded and selfish, the qualities of a spoiled little brat that never had it's ass beaten enough as a young.

Because it doesn't matter that I put aside a little bit of what money I do have to donate to the poor/homeless. You don't want me to celebrate Christmas because I don't believe in the silly, unimportant details of your faith.

No I do not but I do want you to be taken out to a construction sight by a bunch of mafioso and drowned in a fourty-four gallon drum of concrete mix, perhaps if you had read my posts you would have took note of the fact that I am an atheist. Once again this new wave child-atheism is nothing more than an attentionwhore victim complex fad, most of the people involved are actually dumber than theists.



I'm an athiest, I celebrate Christmas. Don't like it? Fuck you then! I got free shit, and you didn't. Who said it's selfish? If anything, it's more selfish to openly reject the presents they offer you because you're on too high of a fucking horse to accept them.

No it is not, after all I have no friends and family, I am a

fucking loser who can probably rot in a garbage for all they care.

JustAnotherAsshole
2008-12-09, 03:14
Once again this new wave child-atheism is nothing more than an attentionwhore victim complex fad, most of the people involved are actually dumber than theists.


1- Not a child.

2- I believe in a god, an all powerful thing that watches over and does.. well, something. I believe in morals, being a good person, etc, etc, but I'm not religious. I don't go to church, I don't believe any of it's teachings and so on. I believe that people can be good without organized religion.

3- I was replying to the OP, not you. I read no posts past the OP's, as I was responding only to his. I have no Idea what the hell you're talking about when you mention the rest of your posts.

The Return
2008-12-09, 03:43
2- I believe in a god, an all powerful thing that watches over and does.. well, something. I believe in morals, being a good person, etc, etc, but I'm not religious. I don't go to church, I don't believe any of it's teachings and so on. I believe that people can be good without organized religion.

In other words you want the comfort of religion without having to put in work for it. Selfish, individualist, retarded, child.

SydMorrison
2008-12-09, 04:19
In other words you want the comfort of religion without having to put in work for it. Selfish, individualist, retarded, child.

Do you really think that if something that divine actually existed, that it would give a flying FUCK what we do on Sunday mornings? Don't you think it would have something better to do with its time?

I mean, this is kind of stupid arguing this point from athiest to athiest, it just fucking pisses me off that you get off calling people selfish on the internet. If you really wanted to get down to the fine print, you're fucking selfish too!

Get off the fucking internet and sell your computer you selfish cunt! That money could go to starving Africans!

At least that'd be selflessness that gets us somewhere, as opposed to selflessness given to some invisible man in the sky.

The Return
2008-12-09, 04:27
Yes if I was God and people were participating in what is supposed to be a celebration of my son's nativity and his life for their own selfish desires, their wishes to be given material gifts and to be loved by their fellow maggots, placing more value on them than I, while in the coming weeks they will go back to spitting upon my name and the very Earth I gave them, I would be extremely angry and I would probably crush this dustball and all of the maggots who reside here in an instant.

nshanin
2008-12-09, 04:35
Keep it up and I'll nominate you for troll of the year.

SydMorrison
2008-12-09, 04:50
Yes if I was God and people were participating in what is supposed to be a celebration of my son's nativity and his life for their own selfish desires, their wishes to be given material gifts and to be loved by their fellow maggots, placing more value on them than I, while in the coming weeks they will go back to spitting upon my name and the very Earth I gave them, I would be extremely angry and I would probably crush this dustball and all of the maggots who reside here in an instant.

Wow.

That's some serious hypocrisy right there.

The Return
2008-12-09, 05:06
Hypocrisy (like judgment) is just another child-attack. Care to explain why?

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-09, 07:01
That was a dick move.

it was funny though. I don't think he was serious

Do you really think that if something that divine actually existed, that it would give a flying FUCK what we do on Sunday mornings? Don't you think it would have something better to do with its time?

given it's an omnipotent being, yes it might be that curious and controlling :o:p

JustAnotherAsshole
2008-12-09, 22:19
In other words you want the comfort of religion without having to put in work for it. Selfish, individualist, retarded, child.

If believing in silly things like a a Jewish guy rising from the dead, and the earth being less than 10,000 years old is putting work into it, then yes, you're correct.

See, to me, putting "Work" into it means being good to people, trying to better myself and helping the less fortunate. Which I'm doing. I don't need to believe in silly shit to be a good person.

EDIT: Also, go fuck yourself for your attempt to confine spirituality to organized religions.

chrislol
2008-12-10, 00:40
Fuck yeah!!!! Christmas motherfucker!!!! Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

The Return
2008-12-10, 12:31
If believing in silly things like a a Jewish guy rising from the dead, and the earth being less than 10,000 years old is putting work into it, then yes, you're correct.

See, to me, putting "Work" into it means being good to people, trying to better myself and helping the less fortunate. Which I'm doing. I don't need to believe in silly shit to be a good person.

EDIT: Also, go fuck yourself for your attempt to confine spirituality to organized religions.

I confine spirituality to the mentally retarded. You are not doing anything to better yourself if you are this stupid, and you cannot do anything about no matter how hard you try, I don't know why someone like you is using the words "less unfortunate".

nshanin
2008-12-10, 14:15
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW!:mad:

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-10, 17:48
This is totseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

PlentyofTorrents.com
2008-12-10, 23:12
Christianity ripped off the Jewish bible and Muslim prayer beads. The inventors of the Bible had no imagination I bet they borrowed stuff from Greek mythology too. :rolleyes:

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-11, 02:33
Christianity ripped off the Jewish bible and Muslim prayer beads.

erm. Islam came AFTER Christianity.

The inventors of the Bible had no imagination I bet they borrowed stuff from Greek mythology too. :rolleyes:

some things in christianity DO have similarities with Greek Mythology and Egyptian things as well..

BrokeProphet
2008-12-12, 00:42
What is meant by participating?

*Putting a tree in your house and decorating it with shiny bits of glass?
*Hanging socks on your fireplace, and leaving out milk and cookies, for an obese elf?
*Getting shit and buying shit for other people, wrapping it in colored paper and setting it under the aforementioned tree?
*Drinking egg nog?
*Taking the kids to the mall to sit on a fat bearded fucks lap, while some elf takes your picture, and you stare at a cardboard cutout of flying reindeer?
*Watching Charlie Brown Christmas, or A Christmas Story for the 80th fucking time?

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Please tell me where all of this shit is in the Bible, and how it relates to your lord and savior?

Tell me how December 25th relates to Jesus Christ...

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It doesn't b/c this holiday is no longer about your zombie.

Go fuck yourselves now.

Iehovah
2008-12-12, 05:19
*Watching Charlie Brown Christmas, or A Christmas Story for the 80th fucking time?

Don't diss 'A Christmas Story', or I'll shoot your eye out.

The Return
2008-12-12, 06:08
What is meant by participating?

*Putting a tree in your house and decorating it with shiny bits of glass?
*Hanging socks on your fireplace, and leaving out milk and cookies, for an obese elf?
*Getting shit and buying shit for other people, wrapping it in colored paper and setting it under the aforementioned tree?
*Drinking egg nog?
*Taking the kids to the mall to sit on a fat bearded fucks lap, while some elf takes your picture, and you stare at a cardboard cutout of flying reindeer?
*Watching Charlie Brown Christmas, or A Christmas Story for the 80th fucking time?

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Please tell me where all of this shit is in the Bible, and how it relates to your lord and savior?

Tell me how December 25th relates to Jesus Christ...

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It doesn't b/c this holiday is no longer about your zombie.

Go fuck yourselves now.

oooooooooomMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGMGG !!!!!!!


READ THE FUCKING THREAD FOR THIR THIRTIETH FUCKING TIME I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. IT'S NO WONDER SO MANY PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME EVERYONE LACKS THE ABILITY TO READ.

MYmentos
2008-12-12, 13:06
I agree with those who lean more towards the giving rather than celebrating a certain religion side of things. If you're an atheist, but you've been brought up by christians, you kinda feel inclined to participate in the whole family tradition thing. I celebrate christmas as a time of giving and sharing happiness with my family, but i don't believe in jesus.

You've gone and taken a beautiful thing like christmas and turned it in to a subject about anti-ism and hating. You jerk-off.

PlentyofTorrents.com
2008-12-12, 16:00
Christmas ™ (http://www.walmart.com/)

:D

The Return
2008-12-12, 16:37
I would much rather be bombarded with materials rather than use my brain as well as have some integrity because that isn't what life is about. If you're an atheist, but you've been brought up by Christians, you're usually too much of a pussy to tell them you're an atheist, and more often it's really just a stunt for attention. I really like Christmas because I am a spoiled American brat who has to attain electronic goods to comfort myself over my worthless existence, and getting together for the Lord Almighty with my family is a good feeling, but I don't do it for the Lord.

You've gone and taken a beautiful thing like me getting presents and turned it in to a subject about anti-ism and hating. You jerk-off.

I'm very sorry.

seann
2008-12-13, 07:06
fuckin atheists :mad:

True Star Wars Fan
2008-12-14, 19:44
Don't diss 'A Christmas Story', or I'll shoot your eye out.

lol. I hate 'It's a wonderful life' because my mom had me watch that old-ass movie when I wanted to watch the fireplace/play games/look at the trees/eat or bake cookies and shit like that whn I was younger.

[/related rant]

Christmas ™ (http://www.walmart.com/)

:D

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE ;)


*Putting a tree in your house and decorating it with shiny bits of glass?

and lights, and garland, etc. Not just shiny bits of glass :mad:

*Drinking egg nog?

don't do that...ewww


Go fuck yourselves now.

lol

mizled
2008-12-17, 02:40
X-mas lights are pretty.
and getting x-mas presents is cool.

Fuck your god, christmas is about Santa.

..and me.