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It's generally accepted that animal abusers are more likely to grow up to be child molesters, serial killers, and other forms of anti-social miscreants. Would everyone else here agree with me that animal abusers, especially children, should be executed or worked to death? I do not believe that these people (or any other form of violent criminal) can be rehabilitated, and that they pose too great of a potential threat to humanity to be allowed to live.

Can anyone give me a reason as to why we should not? Also bedwetters, firestarters and others are up for less extreme consideration.

no. just because it tends to be like that doesnt mean it will happen.

In many cases it does. Earth has a devastating overpopulation problem, why not kill the least desirable in an effort to reverse this endemic?

I dont like animal abusers. So yes.

I don't like animal abusers, but they should be punished as the current law allows, maybe with counseling or time in a mental hospital. I believe that when it comes to crimes, especially murder, you must punish the guilty after they commit the crime, or when there's no doubt that they will commit the crime at some point in the future, they should remain innocent until they can be/are proven guilty.

ya animal abuse is fucked up like why would you even do that does your life suck so much you gotta take it out on animals they have earned more of a right to live then people

The function of law shouldn't be to keep people from suffering, it should be to provide the greatest possible freedom to everyone. Part of that is keeping people free from the threat of violence. A bigger part is letting people do whatever they want so long as it doesn't affect anyone else. Just because some kids tie firecrackers to frogs doesn't mean they're going to go around bombing convenience stores later on. If someone is predisposed towards violence and a lack of empathy towards others, that's their business so long as they intend to follow all the rules. We can make decisions about what to do independent of what we feel like doing, it's called free will. The law should respect that.

It's generally accepted th......

generally accepted =X= generally proven.....

For God's sake, we don't even execute murderers anymore, for the most part. Why the hell would we start executing people for something as trivial as animal abuse? :rolleyes:

I don't like animal abusers, but they should be punished as the current law allows, maybe with counseling or time in a mental hospital. I believe that when it comes to crimes, especially murder, you must punish the guilty after they commit the crime, or when there's no doubt that they will commit the crime at some point in the future, they should remain innocent until they can be/are proven guilty.

Yes, because it can be 100% assured that something that hasn't happened yet, will happen, in 100% of cases.

Something does not have to be generally proven to be law.

For God's sake, we don't even execute murderers anymore, for the most part.

That's one thing that is wrong with society.

Yes, because it can be 100% assured that something that hasn't happened yet, will happen, in 100% of cases.

Doesn't have to be assured.

If you were a troll, and I asked you right now if you were, would you tell the truth?

No I am not and if you do not want to take me seriously, just put me on ignore, I would much rather never be addressed at all than have to deal with the infectiously retarded bullshit of users like you.

I dont like animal abusers. So yes.

And I like you.


On topic:

I hate animal abusers, along with people who experiment on animals for whatever "lofty" reasons they think they have. Animals are not ours to use/exploit, and they should be left alone.

Though I honestly don't know what really should be done to these people. I am not really for killing them, not out of moral concerns for them (fuck that), but because it doesn't really solve the problem. I guess what we can consider doing is study these sick people's genes and see if we can isolate the ones that predispose them to these kinds of cruel behaviours, then screen all future infants against these genes.

Not very feasible at the moment but is the best solution I can think of.

The function of law shouldn't be to keep people from suffering, it should be to provide the greatest possible freedom to everyone.

I can see how you feel that way, although I have to say I disagree.

I DON"T think the laws should exist solely to provide the greatest possible freedom to everyone. It is my belief that laws should have other purposes (which I won't go into here, dont want to derail).

That being said I respect your opinion.

That's one thing that is wrong with society.

I agree, that we should start executing murderers again, but shouldn't we worry about that before considering executing people for abusing animals?

Yes I agree but I would like to see it implemented in areas where the death penalty is divine, such as Texas and Florida.

Also, fuck all of the appeals, no exhaustion, if you are proven beyond a reasonable doubt you don't deserve shit and you die the following morning.

One step forward, 2 back.

People who abuse animals should be tried just as if they'd done it to a person, but the death penalty for ANYONE is wrong.

Or we could put them in a cage with a tiger and tell them to do their worst. Irony at its best.

One step forward, 2 back.

People who abuse animals should be tried just as if they'd done it to a person, but the death penalty for ANYONE is wrong.

You're a queer, less than a man, low testosterone, faggy.

You can't kill some one based on an assumption. Period.

People who advocate the death penalty are ignorant and quick to jump the gun. "u hurt animals u need to DIE!", following their basic emotions and not looking at the situation logically. Being in prison for the remainder of your life is far worse than the death penalty.

Animal abuse should be treated as a serious crime, because as the smartest animals on the planet it is our duty to protect those bellow us. People say suffering and fear is universal, and I agree. That's why these people should receive stern punishment (a couple years jail time), but you need to realize, just because an animal can feel pain does not make it equal to us. We are above animals and since you don't even always get the death penalty for killing a person, you shouldn't for an animal.

People who advocate the death penalty are ignorant and quick to jump the gun. "u hurt animals u need to DIE!", following their basic emotions and not looking at the situation logically. Being in prison for the remainder of your life is far worse than the death penalty.



If that were so, there would not be an overwhelming majority of people on death row in the process of exhausting appeals.

We are not above animals, no life is more sacred than any other.

If that were so, there would not be an overwhelming majority of people on death row in the process of exhausting appeals.

We are not above animals, no life is more sacred than any other.

No. It's not in our nature to let our selves die. A man completely intent on suicide will start to struggle and try to free himself when the noose doesn't break his neck, but rather starts to choke him. Same as a man on death row.

I thought the death penalty was all about punishing some one to the full extent of their crimes, not about telling some one they don't deserve to live. The death penalty is quick and painless these days, an escape from the potential suffering that spending the rest of your life in a maximum security prison would inflict. It's this suffering that would make some one pay for their crimes.

And saying all life is equally sacred is your opinion. Unless you're a vegan you need to STFU. Are you a vegan?

You want to kill people (children even) for animal abuse... Good thinking...

If I follow your logic, you value the life of an animal higher than that of a human being?

On top of that, children CAN be rehabilitated. Every child is born neutral. What becomes of it, is a result of its education and the way that child is raised. Until an age of about 12, children are very susceptable for what you teach them.

Also, you have to look out with jumping to conclusions. I could say that eating ice cream causes children to drown. Why? Because in summertime, children eat a lot of ice cream. A lot of children drown in summertime too. Conclusion: eating ice cream causes a higher risk of drowning. What I didn't take in consideration here, is the fact that kids go swimming a lot during summer.

In the same way, we can look at your statement.
A man had a terrible youth and was abused by his parents who didn't teach him any values, and was left by the parents to rot. But he survived. In his childhood, he was a animal abuser. Later he grows up and goes psycho. He commits a robbery, and in the process kills the shop assistent. In the end he gets caught.

Does the fact that he abused animals have anything to do with him commiting the robbery? I don't think so. His education (or lack of it) and parents are to blame. The animal-molesting was a consequense of his youth.

Just my cent (Couldn't afford 2, I'm broke).
Also excuse me for my quite horrible/childish English, It's not my first language.

No. It's not in our nature to let our selves die. A man completely intent on suicide will start to struggle and try to free himself when the noose doesn't break his neck, but rather starts to choke him. Same as a man on death row.




If it is not our nature to let ourselves die, and man will struggle to fight for his life no matter what the cost, being on death row is worse then life in prison.

I thought the death penalty was all about punishing some one to the full extent of their crimes, not about telling some one they don't deserve to live.

Sounds like punishment to me.

The death penalty is quick and painless these days, an escape from the potential suffering that spending the rest of your life in a maximum security prison would inflict. It's this suffering that would make some one pay for their crimes.

No it is not, in fact lethal injection is often times severely painful as anesthetic normally wears off while pancuronium bromide prevents one from expressing their consciousness, as they are paralyzed, unable to express the writhing pain of sodium pentathol searing their veins and paralyzing their heart.

And saying all life is equally sacred is your opinion.

Saying they are unequally sacred is an opinion as well, what is the relevance of pointing this out? I'm not a vegan, why would that matter? I highly advise you exercise extreme caution should you decide to reply to me (ever again), as I am an extremely intelligent person and you do not stand a chance at competing with me. I would advise that you go blow off some steam and leave this topic alone for a few weeks, as you did so in the thread in which I annihilated you concerning stretching and sports performance.

If I follow your logic, you value the life of an animal higher than that of a human being?

We are not above animals, no life is more sacred than any other.


idiot

On top of that, children CAN be rehabilitated. Every child is born neutral. What becomes of it, is a result of its education and the way that child is raised. Until an age of about 12, children are very susceptable for what you teach them.


http://news.therecord.com/article/444544


Also, you have to look out with jumping to conclusions. I could say that eating ice cream causes children to drown. Why? Because in summertime, children eat a lot of ice cream. A lot of children drown in summertime too. Conclusion: eating ice cream causes a higher risk of drowning. What I didn't take in consideration here, is the fact that kids go swimming a lot during summer.

stupidity

In the same way, we can look at your statement.
A man had a terrible youth and was abused by his parents who didn't teach him any values, and was left by the parents to rot. But he survived. In his childhood, he was a animal abuser. Later he grows up and goes psycho. He commits a robbery, and in the process kills the shop assistent. In the end he gets caught.

Does the fact that he abused animals have anything to do with him commiting the robbery? I don't think so. His education (or lack of it) and parents are to blame. The animal-molesting was a consequense of his youth.

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Just my cent (Couldn't afford 2, I'm broke).
Also excuse me for my quite horrible/childish English, It's not my first language.

die in a fire

Well, I did want to discuss with you, but pretty much every comment you gave on my opinion made clear you are, in fact, a mongoloid. So up yours and go die.

Okay.

no they shouldnt be have ne of you ever seen inside a slaughter house? its there job nice posts THE RETURN

Saying they are unequally sacred is an opinion as well, what is the relevance of pointing this out? I'm not a vegan, why would that matter? I highly advise you exercise extreme caution should you decide to reply to me (ever again), as I am an extremely intelligent person and you do not stand a chance at competing with me.

You're an egotistical, pretentious piece of shit. "I'm an extremely intelligent person"... says your mum, faggot.

Have you seen what happens on the kill floors of abotoirs? Do you know how they remove testicles from bulls? The tails from lambs? Have you seen the conditions that egg laying hens live in? What about milking cows' living conditions? Poultry? Have you seen what they do to male chicks at birth?

Go fuck your self and your pseudo intelligence. If you can't see what me asking if you were a vegan was going to lead to, end your fucking life. The whole meat industry is animal abuse on a mass level and every time you buy a burger, eat an egg, drink a glass of milk, or have turkey for thanks giving you're contributing to it, and giving it two thumbs up saying "it's okay because I'm benefiting from it, yeah!".

I would advise that you go blow off some steam and leave this topic alone for a few weeks

I would advise that you go and blow off your balls, thus eliminating some one as socially retarded as your self from the gene pool.


To reiterate:

Saying they are unequally sacred is an opinion as well, what is the relevance of pointing this out? I'm not a vegan, why would that matter? I highly advise you exercise extreme caution should you decide to reply to me (ever again), as I am an extremely intelligent person and you do not stand a chance at competing with me.

oh my fucking GOD are you a loser...dear god.

Have you seen what happens on the kill floors of abotoirs? Do you know how they remove testicles from bulls? The tails from lambs? Have you seen the conditions that egg laying hens live in? What about milking cows' living conditions? Poultry? Have you seen what they do to male chicks at birth?



UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. This is of what significance again?

Go fuck your self and your pseudo intelligence. If you can't see what me asking if you were a vegan was going to lead to, end your fucking life. The whole meat industry is animal abuse on a mass level and every time you buy a burger, eat an egg, drink a glass of milk, or have turkey for thanks giving you're contributing to it, and giving it two thumbs up saying "it's okay because I'm benefiting from it, yeah!".

Animals are slaughtered for food, animals are tortured for no reason. Animal slaughter is not torture, at least not in developed nations. The consumption of animals for food is not a perverted, sick charade for the mentally perverse, unlike animal abuse.

Way to ignore my points though, as I expected you would.

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. This is of what significance again?

Here let me approach this like you would: You're a stupid, uneducated snob, and you can not even come close to my level of intelligence. I advise that before you consider even claiming to be anything other than a hick, you read up on how each any every one of the things I mentioned happens. Until then, I will leave this thread because you are obviously a social retard.

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH WOT?

Animals are slaughtered for food, animals are tortured for no reason. Animal slaughter is not torture, at least not in developed nations. The consumption of animals for food is not a perverted, sick charade for the mentally perverse, unlike animal abuse.

Just so we're clear here, we're speaking ENGLISH. In English 'torture' =/= 'abuse'. See thread title: Animal abuse. The meat industry does abuse it's animals. Read up about it, then respond with an informed opinion.

In English 'torture' =/= 'abuse

Yes it does.

. I have to admit that I don't really care about this thread. Animals are a resource to be used like oil or metal. End of discussion.

So now that I've said that, I have to say anyone who averages 80 posts per day on this site is a serious loser. Really, you have no fucking life if you can average that many posts a day. Normal people like to leave their house, interact with people, form relationships, and have hobbies.

You on the other hand, post incessantly, and you're very quick to anger. You also advise people you dislike to "exercise extreme caution" is they decide to reply to your stupid posts, and you seem to be suffering from delusions of grandeur when it comes to your intelligence. Anyone who thinks that they can annihilate someone in a thread (for the most part, there are some exceptions) needs give up the internet and join reality again.

This shit on here doesn't matter. In the grand scheme of life, your pseudo-intellectual viewpoints mean piss all. Get some friends, buy a bag of weed, and most importantly learn to chill the fuck out. Emptying your balls into something might help too. Notice I said something and not some girl, because I bet animals give you a hard on and you probably like to bust in there butts.

TL/DR: Get the fuck off totse, join the real world, sodomize a goat.

Way to ignore my points though, as I expected you would.

5char

I have to admit that I don't really care about this thread

Yes you do.

fuck no. Why the fuck would people have there lives ended for killing a animal??

makes me sick how you see more "save our animal" commercials than save human commercials

i agree i hereby declare every animal within a 1km radius of mankind to be slaughtered by the most inhumane means possible

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It's generally accepted that animal abusers are more likely to grow up to be child molesters, serial killers, and other forms of anti-social miscreants. Would everyone else here agree with me that animal abusers, especially children, should be executed or worked to death? I do not believe that these people (or any other form of violent criminal) can be rehabilitated, and that they pose too great of a potential threat to humanity to be allowed to live.

Can anyone give me a reason as to why we should not? Also bedwetters, firestarters and others are up for less extreme consideration.

i would have to agree with you in the fact that they cannot be rehabilitate and that they pose a great potential threat.
but i think there would be a better way of punishment. what i would think would be better is make them suffer the way the animal did. 'eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth'
i would much rather inflict endless suffering and punishment upon these characters than to just execute them.
would you agree possibly?

i would have to agree with you in the fact that they cannot be rehabilitate and that they pose a great potential threat.
but i think there would be a better way of punishment. what i would think would be better is make them suffer the way the animal did. 'eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth'
i would much rather inflict endless suffering and punishment upon these characters than to just execute them.
would you agree possibly?

I don;t think OP meant niggers when he said "animal"....

I don;t think OP meant niggers when he said "animal"....

that is not even funny

Animal abuse should be treated as a serious crime, because as the smartest animals on the planet it is our duty to protect those bellow us. People say suffering and fear is universal, and I agree. That's why these people should receive stern punishment (a couple years jail time), but you need to realize, just because an animal can feel pain does not make it equal to us. We are above animals and since you don't even always get the death penalty for killing a person, you shouldn't for an animal.

I suddenly...like you.

I just want to add one thing though: while it is true that animals are not truly "equal" (and this is assuming that "equalness" could be objectively determined, which it can't), it should be noted that being "equal" to us shouldn't be the requirement for ethical treatment.

For example, suppose there's a retarded person. I believe it's pretty safe to say by all accounts, he is not equal to me. However this doesn't mean I now get to mistreat/abuse/torture him. The same principle applies to animals, who might not "equal" to us in the sense that they are not as smart as us, however as sentient beings they can feel pain just accutely as we do, and this ALONE, I believe, is reason enough for us to treat them kindly/ethically.

They (disable/retarded) are equal in the way that all people are and deserving of the same rights.
Of course I would not disagree they are equal in ability, but the point of the divide between us and animals is that we are self aware sentient beings.

Execution is retarded.
Long prison sentences also.

As if locking someone up will make them suddenly love animals besides there are far more serious crimes. Not that I think torturing or inhumanely killing animals is good.

Oh, I forgot to say we should kill all white heterosexual men. Afterall, most serial killers are white, heterosexual and male.

So, 'The Return'... Did you die yet?

I don;t think OP meant niggers when he said "animal"....

Oh....*puts down shotgun*

Oh, I forgot to say we should kill all white heterosexual men. Afterall, most serial killers are white, heterosexual and male.

So, 'The Return'... Did you die yet?

Yet again your idiocy does not fail to disappoint; one's race is not something that one has a hand in choosing and being a white heterosexual male is most certainly not a precursor to serial homicide. Animal abuse however, is something that has been scientifically proven to be a precursor to anti-social behavior, as I have linked you to one example. It really upsets me that humans can create such foulmatter, shit for brains, abhorrentlogic, retardthought.

They (disable/retarded) are equal in the way that all people are and deserving of the same rights.
Of course I would not disagree they are equal in ability, but the point of the divide between us and animals is that we are self aware sentient beings.

Execution is retarded.
Long prison sentences also.

As if locking someone up will make them suddenly love animals besides there are far more serious crimes. Not that I think torturing or inhumanely killing animals is good.

Once again the maggotbrains have unleashed their army of shitthugs to hurl this kind of corpsewash at me, this is not about loving animals this is about population control in such dire times; why don't we remove the degenerates from society who will grow up to be nothing more than abusers. Execution is not retarded but I would agree that long prison sentences are the most useless and detrimental of them all. It's not about punishment it's about removal.

Yea but you see when I was a little kid I used to take great joy in pulling legs off of spiders, wings off of crane flies, destroying ant nests, annoying the dog etc.

Now I hate killing/maiming anything.

Killing/hurting animals =/= some sicko who will do the same to people.

And yes killing people because they killed an animal is retarded. Killing an animal is not as bad as killing a fellow human being therefore the law would be in the wrong to execute for such a crime as the punishment is more morally wrong than the act it is punishing.

Shit for brains = You

That's not animal abuse, it's insect abuse. Annoying a dog? LOL.

I never said killing an animal was as bad as killing a human, I said killing/torturing animals is a precursor, a birthright to anti-social behavior towards humans and other animals, and it is. Although I must say killing an animal is no different than killing a human, there is nothing sacred about humans, they are both biological organisms. After having interacted with all of you I'm really starting to consider whether or not eugenics is simply a better idea as it would prevent this pandemic of retardation from ever occurring in the first place.

I beg you, and everyone else in this thread please never, for the love of humanity, EVER procreate.

Abuse of animals is abhorrent and should have some kind of punishment - depending on the crime sometimes stricter, when I look at pics of 4chan of somebody setting a kitten on fire or beating a dog to death with a brick I do emotionally feel that that person should die.

But an emotional response to law does not compute. There is no question that an animals life is not equal to that of a human. The death penalty is inherently wrong and the United States is the only Western country backwards enough to still have it. To execute someone for killing or abusing an animal because it could be a precursor to violent crime later in life is craziness unless you can show me a scientific study that says everyone who has ever kicked a dog later becomes a murderer.

Most people who kill other people don't get executed - even in the U.S. It is ridiculous to suppose animals should be held at a higher standard.

It's not just murder but anti-social behavior and the studies are there. The death penalty is not wrong, man I'm so sick of people that have had their nuts swiped clean off. You must be that motherfucker from the pain series.

So it is ok to go on some crazy insect genocide? But not ok to kill a single dog inhumanely?

Killing someone unlawfully is murder, if someone has done nothing wrong you cannot kill them lawfully. If you are not killing them lawfully but because of something they have the potential to do it is murder, thus people who have your point of view will be murdering. So by your logic, as you are likely to cause murder by holding your views we should kill you.

Besides everyone is capable of murder if you put them in the right (wrong?) situation so you would have to kill everybody if you wanted to do it right. Of course you would have to start slow maybe extend the death penalty to gun owners I mean they are far more likely to kill someone. Also car owners there are a lot of car crashes that kill people because of dangerous drivers killing the them could solve this problem.

There are a myriad of problems with having a death penalty. But that is not really what this thread is about.

So it is ok to go on some crazy insect genocide? But not ok to kill a single dog inhumanely?



It's certainly not healthy behavior, but clearly we can establish a realm of exception in this case.

Killing someone unlawfully is murder, if someone has done nothing wrong you cannot kill them lawfully.

If someone has exposed themselves to be mentally perverted, a potential threat to the environment around them, then yes we can kill them lawfully. Laws are limited by region and by those who enforce them. Also the government has the right to do whatever they want as their own people so as long as they are citizens, and reserve the right to do whatever they want to non-citizens on their land. You can execute me should I get caught cutting a cats legs off or throwing boiling oil on it.


Besides everyone is capable of murder if you put them in the right (wrong?) situation so you would have to kill everybody if you wanted to do it right.

In other words, anyone can become mentally perverted, I agree.

Of course you would have to start slow maybe extend the death penalty to gun owners I mean they are far more likely to kill someone.

You can eliminate this problem by removing their "right" to bear arms.

Also car owners there are a lot of car crashes that kill people because of dangerous drivers killing the them could solve this problem.

Gun owners always make the same retarded argument to justify their mental perverseness, one does not need to own a gun to function properly in society, one does need to drive to work, to school, etc, if one is going to be a productive member of society. Vehicular accidents are unfortunate but necessary. Vehicular homicide is very uncommon.

There are a myriad of problems with having a death penalty. But that is not really what this thread is about.

Nothing but goodness stems from capital punishment, my friend. :)

I've read from several books that some of the most despotic leaders in history were animal abusers. I've read off of several biographies that Ivan the Terrible would throw his dogs and cats off the Kremlin Towers, only to rush down to the ground to watch them die.

But no, execution is excessive. Rehabilitation and prison? Sounds fair.

"Ivan the Terrible" sounds like a LOVELY GUY!!! LOL!!!!

Ivan's reign was one of the most unfortunate for the Russian landmass. Ivan was anything but healthy, and just looking at him you can tell he was anti-social. Rising to power does not eliminate one of anti-social behavior or disorders, let's not forget Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, etc etc.

Why do you and so many others believe that rehabilitation is possible? Why not just kill the faggots and get it over with? Earth cannot sustain this population something has to be done about it, and the lowest of the low is where we should start.

Animals are retarded organisms for fuck sakes.

Enjoy fapping to your furry porn, fucktard.

Animals are retarded organisms for fuck sakes.

Enjoy fapping to your furry porn, fucktard.

It does not matter.

Although I have no problem killing them for food animal abusers should have whatever they did to the animal done to them...Beaten kicked or set on fire.

Also on another note rapists I can't stand that they need to be raped and killed themself.

You're retarded and a fucking faggot.

Also on another note rapists I can't stand that they need to be raped and killed themself.

Yes because it is absolutely, 100% clear that ALL convicted rapists are terrible people who forced women to have sex with them.

On topic:

I hate animal abusers, along with people who experiment on animals for whatever "lofty" reasons they think they have. Animals are not ours to use/exploit, and they should be left alone.

Though I honestly don't know what really should be done to these people. I am not really for killing them, not out of moral concerns for them (fuck that), but because it doesn't really solve the problem. I guess what we can consider doing is study these sick people's genes and see if we can isolate the ones that predispose them to these kinds of cruel behaviours, then screen all future infants against these genes.

Not very feasible at the moment but is the best solution I can think of.

Nature vs nurture etc etc...

There is no such thing as a sadistic gene. A psychopathic gene yeah, but not a sadistic one - And psychopaths can be valuable to society in a ton of ways.

If that were so, there would not be an overwhelming majority of people on death row in the process of exhausting appeals.

We are not above animals, no life is more sacred than any other.

Are you a vegetarian?

Do you step on grass?

Have you ever smacked a mosquito?

i would have to agree with you in the fact that they cannot be rehabilitate and that they pose a great potential threat.
but i think there would be a better way of punishment. what i would think would be better is make them suffer the way the animal did. 'eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth'
i would much rather inflict endless suffering and punishment upon these characters than to just execute them.
would you agree possibly?

I ripped the legs off a fly once as a kid.

Should I have my limbs severed?

no. i dont even think mike vick should be in jail. Pretty soon animals will have more rights than people......i dont abuse animals but if a dog bites me im kicking it

I don't know if anyone has said this but...

As much as I HATE animal abuse of any kind, abuse of people, murderers, rapists, etc...
I do not believe the death penalty is just.

It's an eye for an eye and goes against who I am and what I believe in.
If someone kills, then you kill them... you just made it twice as bad.
Not only that but you just let them off the hook that way, they'll never suffer their own mind, their cell, their cubic life.
Guilt, regret, any range of emotions could make someone wish they were dead and their punishment is not being able to die. Cruel? Yes. Morally and logically better? I think so, though I'm sure many will disagree.

I've always believed in the whole "law of attraction thing", not because of "The Secret" (although it's creepy how close it is) but because my parents simply raised me that way, including using some of the quotes from that movie. But my mom learned them from her mom, etc. Anyways, I feel like one death is bad enough, creating another will just make even more deaths start happening, hell, you've already upped it by one death if you kill them.

So, kill people just in case?

No. because humans >>> animals. and in reality most animal abusers don't grow up to be serial killers.

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So, kill people just in case?

Yeah that's the OP's point I guess... :rolleyes:

http://www.theync.com/media.php?name=6826-shocking-man-is-murdered

It's generally accepted that animal abusers are more likely to grow up to be child molesters, serial killers, and other forms of anti-social miscreants. Would everyone else here agree with me that animal abusers, especially children, should be executed or worked to death? I do not believe that these people (or any other form of violent criminal) can be rehabilitated, and that they pose too great of a potential threat to humanity to be allowed to live.

Can anyone give me a reason as to why we should not? Also bedwetters, firestarters and others are up for less extreme consideration.

Nope. I don't care if you kill animals. So many things are being classed as animal cruelty today, it's getting ridiculous so there's no way I could really get behind what you're suggesting in its current incarnation. If you decide to 'put down' your own dog with a bullet to the brain you can be charged with animal cruelty in some areas. What a wank, that's much quicker than the bullshit expensive injection and it's cheaper too. There's nothing wrong with a little pyromania as long as you don't damage anyone else's shit (without their permission).

I think busybodies who can't keep their opinions to themself are much more dangerous, they go around fucking things up and pissing everyone off.

Anyways, I feel like one death is bad enough, creating another will just make even more deaths start happening, hell, you've already upped it by one death if you kill them.

Not all lives are of equal worth.

Jeffrey Dahmer's one of my favourite serial killers, so no.