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launchpad
2008-12-07, 14:17
Recently went there.

Wow - I found it had a huge effect on me. Actually being there, a place where up to 3 million people were killed in such a small geographic location...it boggles the mind. I really felt that it helped bring the reality and closeness of the Second World War home, and there terrible actions of the Nazis, even moreso than just being in Krakow or Warsaw did.

Did any of you guys visit Auchwitz or any other camps? What were your thoughts? It really had a large impact on me.

Also, this is not a thread to debate whether or not the Holocaust happened - so if any of those crazies (I dunno if they hang around Travails or not, they usually stick to Humanities) see this, kindly stay out of it.

parkus
2008-12-07, 14:23
Work to be free :rolleyes:

Revvy
2008-12-07, 14:53
Went about 3 weeks ago and pretty much thought the same. Though eventually I didn't have time to see Birkenau.

If you follow my travel diary in Travellers Travails I wrote quite a bit about it... Will be updated shortly ;)

lostmyface
2008-12-07, 19:02
you guys are all braver souls than i. the idea of visiting one of the camps scares the shit out of me. i dont know how i would handle it. hats off to you all though.

parkus
2008-12-07, 20:54
you guys are all braver souls than i. the idea of visiting one of the camps scares the shit out of me. i dont know how i would handle it. hats off to you all though.

Why is that?

BSK
2008-12-07, 21:05
Auchwitz

you managed to write the name of a city wrong in 2 different styles, pretend you have been there and it had a large impact on you? troll alert ..

launchpad
2008-12-07, 22:10
Studying for exams, not worried about spelling correctly on a quick thread I rhymed out in 2 secs on totse - it's a pretty straightforward question - who has visited there and what effect did it have.

BSK
2008-12-07, 22:17
not worried about spelling correctly on a quick thread I rhymed out in 2 secs

it had a large impact on you? fucking bullshit troll ..

launchpad
2008-12-07, 22:58
In any case, anybody who WAS there - what were your experiences - we got in just before it closed for the day at like 2 30 and it was pretty cloudy...After the bus from Krakow (during the 2 hours it took we saw a fair amount of anti-Jewish graffiti I'm sad to say...especially as we neared Auschwitz) it was pretty muddy at the camp - I guess that added to the atmosphere...I also liked how they have you look through the museum before you actually go in - it makes it more real somehow...seeing pictures and clothes and stuff...Also, something I hadn't realized before was the whole secrecy behind it ... they cordoned off like 40 miles outside the camp as a no-go zone and enslaved the Poles who had lived there...I was wondering why everything looked so bleak as we approached. Because it was a cloudy, misty day, the ground was muddy when we finally got in through the gates..it's just such a somber and ... I don't quite know - such a crazy atmosphere I imagine everyone experiences it in their own way..Looking forward to hearing what you thought of it Revvy...and we didn't see Birkenau either because we had to catch the last bus which left at like 6 20 : (

I Fought The Law
2008-12-08, 08:59
I didn't get to Auschwitz while I was in Poland, allthough I went to Mattenhausen. Pretty sobering experience. Especially the stairs of death there.

The Nazi's would make them carry these huge chunks of rocks up these really steep stone steps from a quarry. Every so often if they felt like it they'd push one and it would be like a domino effect of huge rocks and crushed people rolling down these stairs.

parkus
2008-12-08, 09:02
It's a very er.. picture-esque place.

Especially in the snow.

goldenleaf
2008-12-09, 13:50
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels

Rawk
2008-12-10, 23:31
I've been to Dachau and Sachsenhausen (I probably spelt them incorrectly and thus I haven't been and am simply trolling :rolleyes:)

To my knowledge they weren't extermination camps like Auschwitz so but people were executed at both, there's a wall at Dachau with bulletholes in it where they executed a load of Soviet POWs. The memorials were interesting to look at, the politics behind them, how you go about trying to capture the emotions associated with the Holocaust in a piece of art etc
I did feel pretty bad seeing the living quarters, especially the toilets, pretty fucking inhumane.
Its good to get a guided tour so they can fill you in on certain stories and extra information.

bozoyoro
2008-12-14, 22:22
I might go in a few years, but everybody I know who's gone was shocked in how sad it was... My sister is going in a little while, but when she went to Ethiopia she was just as shocked

GatorWarrior
2008-12-22, 08:43
Auschswitz.
I came, I saw, I lol'd

jewishnazi
2008-12-24, 03:46
i went to Auschwitz, it reminded me of better times.

Xerxes35
2008-12-24, 11:14
Recently went there.

Wow - I found it had a huge effect on me. Actually being there, a place where up to 3 million people were killed in such a small geographic location...it boggles the mind. I really felt that it helped bring the reality and closeness of the Second World War home, and there terrible actions of the Nazis, even moreso than just being in Krakow or Warsaw did.

Did any of you guys visit Auchwitz or any other camps? What were your thoughts? It really had a large impact on me.

Also, this is not a thread to debate whether or not the Holocaust happened - so if any of those crazies (I dunno if they hang around Travails or not, they usually stick to Humanities) see this, kindly stay out of it.

The holocaust (Meaning the alleged deaths of 6,000,000 jews. There were people murdered in camps but that number is a lie) was made up by Zionists because they used it as propaganda for having Britain and the United States go to Palestine and conquer them there and set up their puppet state of Israel to gain ground in the middle east. It made the western people 'feel bad' for the Jews so they didn't stop their respective governments from going and murdering Syrian-Palestinians.

And now I will be called an anti-semite and a fool and a heretic and every other name in the book because people believe everything the government tells them because they can not think for themselves, and generally ignorant on the subject anyway.

If you think that they can not fake 6,000,000 people dying, then I suggest you read up on history. The Allies tricked the Axis into having them think that they had a million man army and tons of planes and tanks on tape and the "accidentally" let the axis get a hold of their "intelligence." The axis believed it too.

Also someone posted this earlier which is correct.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels

Ganja Fett
2008-12-29, 00:09
^this^

Revvy
2008-12-29, 00:39
The holocaust (Meaning the alleged deaths of 6,000,000 jews. There were people murdered in camps but that number is a lie) was made up by Zionists because they used it as propaganda for having Britain and the United States go to Palestine and conquer them there and set up their puppet state of Israel to gain ground in the middle east. It made the western people 'feel bad' for the Jews so they didn't stop their respective governments from going and murdering Syrian-Palestinians.

And now I will be called an anti-semite and a fool and a heretic and every other name in the book because people believe everything the government tells them because they can not think for themselves, and generally ignorant on the subject anyway.

If you think that they can not fake 6,000,000 people dying, then I suggest you read up on history. The Allies tricked the Axis into having them think that they had a million man army and tons of planes and tanks on tape and the "accidentally" let the axis get a hold of their "intelligence." The axis believed it too.

Also someone posted this earlier which is correct.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels

So where's your sources?

Give me some reputable sources and I'll happily believe you.

Rawk
2008-12-29, 00:59
So where's your sources?

Give me some reputable sources and I'll happily believe you.

Ah you don't understand, its a global conspiracy by the evil jews who Hitler didn't actually try and destroy even though they were totally evil...but he didn't kill them...even though he should have....and it would have been a good thing if he did...but he didn't...erm :confused:

Slave of the Beast
2008-12-31, 15:23
Maybe the German contractors weren't quite up to date with the old vorsprung durch technik and just got their water and gas pipes mixed up? And rather than admit to this embarrasing plumbing error, their Teutonic pride forced them into claiming they intended on killing 6 million people.

Which means they still killed a shitload of Jews, but we shouldn't give 'em quite such a hard time over it.

GatorWarrior
2009-01-01, 04:01
maybe the german contractors weren't quite up to date with the old vorsprung durch technik and just got their water and gas pipes mixed up? And rather than admit to this embarrasing plumbing error, their teutonic pride forced them into claiming they intended on killing 6 million people.

Which means they still killed a shitload of jews, but we shouldn't give 'em quite such a hard time over it.

ahahahaha