Wouldn't it be great to see a forum online, with civilian members of society registered as "minute men" in their town, city or county?

Pearl Harbor wasn't too long ago, and the LA riots were only a few years back. I'm not familiar with other parts of the 'States, but shit hits the fan numerous times a generation. Sports riots, gang activity, so on and so forth.

I see plenty of hunters' forums, and these guys become so close as friends that they many consider each other family.

I don't know, I just thought it'd be cool, haha.

Food for thought, I guess.

Militias + National Guards = modern minutemen no?

So when the shit hits the fan, the nazis/ruskies/us government knows who to target first?

:mad:

Wouldn't it be great to see a forum online, with civilian members of society registered as "minute men" in their town, city or county?

Pearl Harbor wasn't too long ago, and the LA riots were only a few years back. I'm not familiar with other parts of the 'States, but shit hits the fan numerous times a generation. Sports riots, gang activity, so on and so forth.

I see plenty of hunters' forums, and these guys become so close as friends that they many consider each other family.

I don't know, I just thought it'd be cool, haha.

Food for thought, I guess.
As lavared said thats what the Army National Guard is for dumb fuck. And what does pearl harbor have to do with minutemen? Pearl harbor didn't need minutemen each branch of the military has a branch in Hawaii so they had that covered. But there is the National Guard which is the modern day militia of olden days.

There really isn't any modern day equivalent to ye olde militia. The closest thing would be state militias which are recognized as part of the DoD, since they don't go out of country, and are really more voluntary with smaller commitment lengths than the National Guard.

Militias + National Guards = modern minutemen no?

The only thing a national guard dude can go in a minute is eat 6 double whoppers.

The only thing a national guard dude can go in a minute is eat 6 double whoppers.

Someone give that man a medal.

Just because two of my friends in the 82nd kept a platoon of NG at bay with a couple of paintball guns during training for the NG deployment, and just because they killed a bunch of the poor, cowering bastards with a stick after doubling around and "slashing" them with it because they weren't advancing, using any of their IMT's (much less squad manuevers), and just because a National Guardsman serving me a burger once kept telling me about how many bodies "they" hadn't found in the swamp (he was a badass killing machine by night, fry chef by day), doesn't mean they all suck, After all, they do have Special Forces.


Seriously. I've heard good things.

They are still a bunch of fat old guys that are stil E5s.

A lot of them DO have multiple deployments, and years of experience. Better than you average NG grunt I guess, and they have more funding. Of course there are always some exceptions, better or worse.

They are the kinda guys that always walk around 10 pistol mags on their gun belt tucked under their spare tire(s). Seriously.

I recall a few years back a NG A- team was breaking contact in Afghanistan, then chose to hold up(against an estimated 150 Taliban) after only a few hundred meters due to fatigue. Once they got settled in, they actually did some serious damage and stuck it out until QRF got there.

What I find most amusing is that I've actually heard really great things about a team or two of Reserve Special Forces from someone whose opinion I respect greatly on the matter. Apparently, some of the reservist units are better prepared than HSLD fulltime guys. Of course, I'd bet good money that 90% of them would love to tell me how they are badass hitmen while cooking my burger after I made it clear I'm not interested in conversation.

What I find most amusing is that I've actually heard really great things about a team or two of Reserve Special Forces from someone whose opinion I respect greatly on the matter. Apparently, some of the reservist units are better prepared than HSLD fulltime guys. Of course, I'd bet good money that 90% of them would love to tell me how they are badass hitmen while cooking my burger after I made it clear I'm not interested in conversation.

It's all relative, and probably only comes to a case by case basis of the individual in question. I'm sure there are plenty of turd burglars on active duty to go around. In fact, I know so.

However, it's probably safe to generalize that a burger flipper is nothing more significant than his outward appearance.

However, it's probably safe to generalize that a burger flipper is nothing more significant than his outward appearance.

Unless his burgers are made from human meat :eek:.

As lavared said thats what the Army National Guard is for dumb fuck. And what does pearl harbor have to do with minutemen? Pearl harbor didn't need minutemen each branch of the military has a branch in Hawaii so they had that covered. But there is the National Guard which is the modern day militia of olden days.

Your lack of respect not only is offensive, but denies you much if not any credibility.

As I stated, "civilians". My comment about Pearl Harbor was of the dangers that come by as generations pass, many people fail to realize that shit hits the fan often. I gave more than one, too. 1992 LOS ANGELES RIOTS. You dumb fuck.

This was a simple little idea of a thread but you came in and made a dick of yourself and had to act immaturely and disrespectfully. Your problems with daddy-o reside between you and him, not you and I. So take that shit elsewhere.

And to everyone else, I realize that the national gaurd would be closest to a modern day militia, but they were nowhere to be seen in LA. At one point, there were no policemen, no riot teams. Every household purchased a firearm and hoped for the best. People were killed, places of business were destroyed. I friend of mine took a bullet in the neck (he survived), community stores were molitov'd and burnt to the ground.

It wasn't until the ex-military community stepped in that safety seemed imminent. Not until they banded together and protected their businesses, their homes, and their way of life. They held that shit down, and they put an end to the mess by SHOOTING BACK.

Of course, this isn't the only story of the Riots, but it is a significant piece of the puzzle.

In firearm carry debates, it is much spoken of civilian activism, "good-guys with guns". I believe this is a valid argument for the men with weapons, and I've experienced the truth in it personally.

The only thing better than a good-guy with a gun is a whole community of good-guys with guns.

I'm just saying it might be nice, no reason for any hollering here.

State militias, not NG.

Also, you want to post here :

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?p=10785337#post10785337

A bunch of &T children are gloating about the LA riots got things done. They keep telling me you have to fight for your rights and I keep laughing too hard to type.

Looney, I'm a bit confused by your statement.

I'm not for the LA riots, nor for the people "uprising" a looting. No, I'm against what happened. I don't believe anyone should ever do or experience what went on in the riots, correctly referred to as the Watts Riots.

I'm sorry if my statement has absolutely no relation to yours :).

Just saying, good guys with guns, cool, yay, awesome, rad. You know.

I grew up in LA, though. LA city. Koreatown. I mean, the heart of the riots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTw-UHalZc

Aint that some shit...Old lady couldn't eat.

State militias are closer than the NG to ye olde militia. There are several that are part of the DoD.


I wanted you to go tell all of the children in there saying that we need to go defy authority because authority is mean about your experiences. I'm not including those with legitimate cultural issues, but there are plenty of kids whose parents are making at least six figures bitching about how bad authority is. One in particular loves to moan about the evils of "ageism" that is apparently rampant in our society. I'm not kidding.

Militias + National Guards = modern minutemen no?

No the national guard is a government entity. A militia is supposed to be there to keep the government in check not be there for the government. A militia protects the country not the government. The national guard does protect the country a little but it just seems they are more there for the gov and not for the people. A militia should be made up of the citizens not the government soldiers.

Militias + National Guards = modern minutemen no?

I think he is talking about a militia with no governmental command (civilian only).

If you think in a country of 300 odd million people with liberal gun laws and history of guerrilla warfare against invaders, that there aren't secret armies/militias scattered around, you are kidding yourself.

Think about people like ex-Green Berets. A lot of them would be disenfranchised with the government, and would likely train anyone who thinks on a level they approve of, of guerrilla tactics and SF tactics so they know what to counter.

Trust me, your country has underground armies/survivalists scattered everywhere.

Oh, we know. It's just that misguided clusters of them like Elohim City and the CSA go and commit terrorist acts and get themselves infiltrated because instead of training for legitimate causes, they decide to try and wage war against the government.

That's unfortunate. Some people need orders to go with training, they can't think rationally when given complete freedom.

That's not to say that the government isn't an enemy you shouldn't train to fight against, if lessons past have shown us anything. Especially when the government monitors and tries to infiltrate patriot groups. Why are they so scared of these groups? Worried they are doing the wrong thing and are going to get caught?

Getting compromised would suck. Some people are too eager to recruit though, they see numbers as power, when it is actually the opposite. Groups less than 6 are the way to go, if one goes down, you don't destroy a whole network.

Now that is starting to sound like a terrorist cell, when it's the complete opposite.

A little to serious!

Not a militia to keep the government in check. Not a group of men who train daily in the desert.

I meant, per se, a hunting forum, without the hunting. People who can create a community of a common ground, armed and willing to fight.

Sounds kiddish when put in those terms, but I'd rather see a community without a specific mission statement.

It would be like gangbanging without the mischied, the mafia without the drugs and extortion. We all know the koreans did it in the riots, and the blacks banded together as well. Fuck, Pico Blvd was a front line. God that looks like fun.

Shit, we can start here!

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It would be a nice thing. I mean, there's people you go here for help. Whether it's pyromaniacs or politics, this forum has a decent set of well-minded people.

We could have med-students, hobby pyros, jeeps, hunters, fishermen, law-students the works. We could all hang out, grill some red and reduce crime!

What was that watch community that patrolled New York City?

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To ice it, we all have friends we go to when shit hits the fan. Friends ready to deal with the cops, deal with hoodlums and gangbangers.

Oh who am I kidding.

I bet if you weren't watching it on TV you wouldn't think it looks like fun. You sound like a deputy sheriff/vigilante wannabe. You're a cock.

As far as the guys completely bashing the National Guard, I can't say shit about other units and such but my unit is pretty squared away. Of course there is a few of those fat fuck E-4/E-5s that have been in for years and don't do shit and only way to get them to run is tell them there's chow. But for the most part a lot of our guys are prior Active Duty, and know their shit and all. Like I said I can't speak for other units but our company is pretty good. And as far as better funding that's a fucking joke, the state of Arizona couldn't even afford to send a fucking company of volunteers with a Unit out of Hawaii. That's the one thing I hate about the National Guard there has been about 4 different missions proposed for volunteers and each fucking one gets canceled due to funding. I'm hoping this next one in April isn't the same way. Don't get it mixed up they do go over plenty of times, our unit just got back in July(missed that one) just a lot of shit gets canceled thanks to no money. If anyone has had bad experience with NG guys that sucks because it gives other people bad name, and don't get me wrong not trying to say NG is any where on standard with Active duty but its not all its made out with drill being just BBQs and drinking as most active duty think.

As far as original poster you just sound like a cunt. That's just my personal opinion.

That's unfortunate. Some people need orders to go with training, they can't think rationally when given complete freedom.

That's not to say that the government isn't an enemy you shouldn't train to fight against, if lessons past have shown us anything. Especially when the government monitors and tries to infiltrate patriot groups. Why are they so scared of these groups? Worried they are doing the wrong thing and are going to get caught?

Getting compromised would suck. Some people are too eager to recruit though, they see numbers as power, when it is actually the opposite. Groups less than 6 are the way to go, if one goes down, you don't destroy a whole network.

Now that is starting to sound like a terrorist cell, when it's the complete opposite.

The problem associated with all militia type groups is that they tend to attract some pretty interesting types, and unfortunately there has been a history of completely unwarranted violence against the American people and government by groups such as CSA, McVeigh, etc.

I don't think anyone would say that there are not legitimate gripes against some aspects of government, as there always are, but rather than be prepared and peacefully discuss things like the democratic aspect of our democracy, they make themselves into groups that need to be infiltrated for the safety of law enforcement, public officials, and private citizens. A potentially good concept becomes corrupted, and then brings discrimination upon itself.

It's a lot like gangs. They used to kick drug dealers out of neighborhoods, and then they became the drug dealers. A lot of militia organizations became violently White Supremacist, associated with criminal elements, and advocated terrorism. When you pick a fight with the US government, they'll accept.

The problem associated with all militia type groups is that they tend to attract some pretty interesting types, and unfortunately there has been a history of completely unwarranted violence against the American people and government by groups such as CSA, McVeigh, etc.

I don't think anyone would say that there are not legitimate gripes against some aspects of government, as there always are, but rather than be prepared and peacefully discuss things like the democratic aspect of our democracy, they make themselves into groups that need to be infiltrated for the safety of law enforcement, public officials, and private citizens. A potentially good concept becomes corrupted, and then brings discrimination upon itself.

It's a lot like gangs. They used to kick drug dealers out of neighborhoods, and then they became the drug dealers. A lot of militia organizations became violently White Supremacist, associated with criminal elements, and advocated terrorism. When you pick a fight with the US government, they'll accept.

i did my research paper on the oklahoma city bombing for my emergency response to terrorism class. mcveighs connection with the elohim city white supremicist militia is pretty interesting. They even found similar blasting caps to the ones mcveigh had stolen. But the authorities did not charge the group in connection with mcveigh.

The problem associated with all militia type groups is that they tend to attract some pretty interesting types, and unfortunately there has been a history of completely unwarranted violence against the American people and government by groups such as CSA, McVeigh, etc.

I don't think anyone would say that there are not legitimate gripes against some aspects of government, as there always are, but rather than be prepared and peacefully discuss things like the democratic aspect of our democracy, they make themselves into groups that need to be infiltrated for the safety of law enforcement, public officials, and private citizens. A potentially good concept becomes corrupted, and then brings discrimination upon itself.

It's a lot like gangs. They used to kick drug dealers out of neighborhoods, and then they became the drug dealers. A lot of militia organizations became violently White Supremacist, associated with criminal elements, and advocated terrorism. When you pick a fight with the US government, they'll accept.

That's true about the 'interesting types'. Haha. You can pick the type walking down the street. I don't think that militia groups should be political. Perhaps they have a political wing, as has been demonstrated for decades, that they stay totally out of contact with, lest the armed wing get destroyed when the time comes for it to actually be needed.