I'm just thinking outloud, but it seems that phenethylamine (phenylethylamine) should be a good precurser. Seeing as that all phenethylamine drugs are built off this molecule.

amphetamine = alpha-PEA
methampetamine=methyl-alpha-PEA

I doubt you can get to MA from PEA, because someone would have already thought about it. I assume it is something like MA>MDMA, can't be done.

But there should be some serious stimulants that could come out of it.

At the very least, is there a way to make it not break down by MAO? I have a thread in BLTC going, this is a very good drug it just lasts about 15 minutes because it breaks down. Like PEA is fucking me up. But if it could last longer than 15 minutes it would be the shit.

There is a supplement out there that is methyl-PEA, I forget what it is called but on the bottle it comically says "don't use if you have a history of drug abuse."

Maybe the methyl makes it hit the BBB faster?

So this is a clone thread in disguise? You move your question from the title right back to your BLTC thread.

So this is a clone thread in disguise? You move your question from the title right back to your BLTC thread.

How is this a thread in disguise? When I consume PEA I get high but the duration is too short. I am wondering if there is a way to chemically change it so it lasts longer by either not getting as inhibited by MAO or hits the BBB faster.

PEA is also what 100% of all phenethylamines are based off of.

You are a real asshole dude.

The cycle of knowledge has four stages.

-- Unknowingly ignorant
-- Knowlingly ignorant
-- Knowlingly enlightened
-- Unknowingly enlightened

As it is said, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially when you read and browse interesting internet forums but don't take the time to actually sort out solid background chem and basic principles. You skip redox theory, acid-base theory and electron structures because you're too busy reading up on the latest dope cook and keeping up with the underground slang - Consequently you are Unknowingly ignorant, the most amusing of stages (though not as dangerous as knowingly enlightened - see also 'god complex'), because you can parrot off slang and basehead terminology while utterly failing to understand IUPAC nomenclature, and somehow assuming that you can get off calling the moderator of this forum a 'real asshole' when not moments before you proudly declared that phenethylamine to methamphetamine was impossible...

murk the luck foar, fewnag.

Find a chemical for a use, not a use for a chemical. Noob.