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hedonist
2008-12-14, 09:42
Note: I'm still kinda drunk & its 1 in the morning + I just took some benzos so pardon the incoherency of the post...

I haven't visited this website for awhile, but anyway I am in college right now and looking for ideas/recommendations on how to leverage the possible opportunities that a degree would give me. So far I have been working on dual majoring in business and one of the life science(s). This will take me 4 years instead of the original 2-3, so I will be about 22 when I graduate. Originally I would have been graduating about April of 2009, but I hated the classes and decided to fuck off for a quarter since I had been going to school non stop for 2 years. Would it be weird if a 20y/o had a BA already? The main reason I decided against this is that getting into business school requires job experience, and I don't really want to work at all until I have some sort of degree and can [hopefully] make a decent amount of money. So I have decided to stay in school longer and get into the life sciences in addition to my business degree. Hopefully this will take me to graduate school, but I don't know how that "game" works. I will be graduating with $0 debt but still being kinda poor. Would I be able to get a bunch of scholarships and get most of my grad school paid for?

Ok, now with all that explained presently my goal for the next few years is to complete the above and make about 500k or so while helping improve humanities' body of scientific knowledge, I'm not completely randian in that sense after all;). After about 10 years or so I think this would be possible. This would then be transferred offshore to grow like crazy so I would have 20k/yr in passive income. I could even get citizenship in a country that does not tax their citizens overseas earnings thanks to my ancestors. Then I would do whatever I wanted (as far ahead as I feel like planning at this stage). One other thing: I dislike children, so a gigantic $ sink never exists, I also will just get a storage locker for my stuff, a house costs too much w/ government stuff here in the us of a.

Euda
2008-12-14, 16:52
I don't really want to work at all until I have some sort of degree

That's not a good approach; it displays a lack of motivation.

There are a lot of scholarships for grad students.

hedonist
2008-12-14, 20:40
To clarify: I don't want to work in mcdonalds or the like....ever. Working hard in school or in jobs that pay decently like fixing rich people's computers is fine.

Euda
2008-12-15, 00:22
Have you ever looked for a job? There are plenty of worthwhile jobs out there that pay well, if you're willing to look.

A student's options aren't limited to fast food.

Remember, employers don't consider a graduate to be experienced without any experience. A bachelor's degree or diploma without experience isn't the most useful thing in the world; there's nothing to prove that you know how to actually work.

Go sit down with someone in Human Resources within the industry you want to be in and ask about qualifications. Not only does that answer you questions, but it gets your foot in the door with that organization.

RAOVQ
2008-12-15, 03:48
im not sure of the numbers, but i would imagine the number of people graduating with some business degree from my university close to a thousand per year.

you have high (unrealistic) hopes. the kind of money you intend to earn is not handed out to everyone with a BA. you have to be exceptional to get the type of job needed to raise that kind of capital.

but you don't seem exceptional. you will enter a grad program without any employment history and a three month gap in your education. scholarships are handed out not just on academic performance, but personal attributes and shown dedication. they don't want someone who is arrogant and thinks that hard work is below them. nor do they want someone who thinks that they have it all figured out (and extremely angsty).

basically, get real. if you can't get a real part time job, get a mcjob, even if only until something better shows up. the field you are in is highly competitive, with some truly impressive people wanting exactly what you want, but you sit there are bitch about not lowering your standards. ive noticed a trend among people who graduate in any degree without any substantial work history - and that is they are basically unemployable.

whocares123
2008-12-15, 06:21
The main reason I decided against this is that getting into business school requires job experience, and I don't really want to work at all until I have some sort of degree and can [hopefully] make a decent amount of money.

How does this make sense? Getting into business school requires job experience (agreed)...so you don't want to work at all now? ( :confused: ) Are you saying you want to work for a while after graduating from college, gaining experience before you go to business school? How are those interviews going to go, do you think?

"Resume:

- Bachelors in Business and a life science.

- Enjoy long walks and benzos

- ??? "

I would seize any opportunity you have to work now, not only to make money, but at the very least to show that you are capable of working. Fucking great if it's something in your interested field, but still good even if it's not. Who cares if it's minimum wage shit? You gotta crawl before you can walk.


Ok, now with all that explained presently my goal for the next few years is to complete the above and make about 500k or so while helping improve humanities' body of scientific knowledge, I'm not completely randian in that sense after all;). After about 10 years or so I think this would be possible.

Which brings me to the point that you shouldn't plan to be making half a million dollars a year by your early to mid 30s. Do you realize how little of the population actually achieves success like that at that stage in life? And very few of them do it without having come from prominent backgrounds, going to top tier business schools, getting set up with internships and jobs from daddy's friends, and networking their ass off...as well as, usually, being competent and good at what they need to do.

I don't understand what your job goals are. "Helping improve humanities' body of scientific knowledge." What does that entail?

Steal_Everything8
2008-12-16, 06:59
Would it be weird if a 20y/o had a BA already?

I'll be 18 when I get my BA. I'm a Sophomore at FSU right now, and I'm 17. I know someone that got their BA at 17.

Also, get a job/internship now. It will look good on resumes later.