http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnrUV8bYlss


This video is the real deal and the final question to our answers! Please take a look at it and respond in this thread. Its about the age old question of evolution vs creation.

I don't really have anything to say about his speech.

But why is "the illuminati" after him? Who is this guy?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnrUV8bYlss


This video is the real deal and the final question to our answers! Please take a look at it and respond in this thread. Its about the age old question of evolution vs creation.

Can't see how you come to that conclusion!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vnrUV8bYlss


This video is the real deal and the final question to our answers! Please take a look at it and respond in this thread. Its about the age old question of evolution vs creation.

I like this video because it shows that there are nutballs in every religion. I say this as someone who totally respects and tries to adhere to the religions and practices of the east (hindu, buddhist, etc)

Of course i'm not really familiar with this particular religious teacher so he might be using the word illuminati and demons and shit as metaphors or a type of zen koan when he says stuff like evolution is nonesense.

I like this video because it shows that there are nutballs in every religion. I say this as someone who totally respects and tries to adhere to the religions and practices of the east (hindu, buddhist, etc)

Of course i'm not really familiar with this particular religious teacher so he might be using the word illuminati and demons and shit as metaphors or a type of zen koan when he says stuff like evolution is nonesense.

Srimad Prabhupada was the guy who brought the Krishna religion to America and Aussy. This religion is very hinduish. Surprised you don't know to be honest if you're into indian religion.

Srimad Prabhupada was the guy who brought the Krishna religion to America and Aussy.

So he's the guy I complain to about that chinese girl who practically pushed me down the stairs at Niagara Falls? (I wouldn't take a pamphlet)

I think it looks like that grumpy old fart isn't even trying.

Suggesting we must have a soul that operates the body the same as we humans operate any other machine....is not mind blowing, original, or factual.

Seriously, his cult was sued by 95 people for fucking children, and one case of brain washing went all the way to the Supreme Court.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Society_for_Krishna_Consciousness#Or igin_of_the_soul


Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare

Means "Dont tell mommy"

I've never really paid much attention to the Krishnas, they've always seemed kind of kooky to me. They're like the mormons of Hinduism.

"Hindu" has its etymology in the Indus river. When the Persians were invading "India" they came through the Indus river. They did not know the people who lived on the other side of the Indus river so they called them after the river; but they could not pronounce it so it sounded like "Hindus"; this was a derogatory term which is not the native name to Indian spirituality/religion, nor is "India" the name given to the country, this was given by the British colonizers.

Traditional "indian" religion is Vedic dharma. Hinduism was invented and instituted by British colonizers.

Now as for the man in the video "His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada" was the man who founded ISKCON. He studied in india for many years and has translated many sanskrit books; and written dozens of books himself pertaining to vedic spirituality; and also toured 6 continents and circled the world 4 times preaching.

It is important to note that at least in the eyes of Prabhupada ISKCON is an "international society" rather than a religion; its in the name.

Now i will agree that (just like so many other things in life; particulary religion/spirituality) people have taken prabhupada out of context and politicized his teachings.

Remember all this man did is reiterate knowledge that has been known to Vedics for over 100,000 years.

Say what you want about that man, but for sure he had commitment and he knew his shit when it came to his area of expertise.

Say what you want about that man, but for sure he had commitment and he knew his shit when it came to his area of expertise.


I have as much respect for him and what he knows, as I do for a follower of Santa Claus, who knows everything there is know about this obese elf, and has read every christmas related story they could.

Grinch

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Dear BrokeProphet..


There is a difference between santa claus and a religious person. Its really sad to see that you cant see difference between them. Its clear that santaclaus is imaginary and between krishna who sri sri prabhupada worships, krishna is the incarnation of the supreme god of hinduism.

Dear BrokeProphet..


There is a difference between santa claus and a religious person. Its really sad to see that you cant see difference between them. Its clear that santaclaus is imaginary and between krishna who sri sri prabhupada worships, krishna is the incarnation of the supreme god of hinduism.

Really?

So it is clear that Santa Claus is imaginary, but Krishna is not?

This is clear?

Please tell me how you KNOW Krishna is not imaginary. Please tell me how you can fucking POSSIBLY have this KNOWLEDGE. Come up with just one piece of evidence Krishna has for existing that Santa does not. Just one.

The brick wall your meme erects around your brain is staggering both in scope and depth.

Broke owns my ass everytime I puke nonsense on here, so I will now resort to childish name calling.

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Really?

So it is clear that Santa Claus is imaginary, but Krishna is not?

This is clear?

Please tell me how you KNOW Krishna is not imaginary. Please tell me how you can fucking POSSIBLY have this KNOWLEDGE. Come up with just one piece of evidence Krishna has for existing that Santa does not. Just one.

The brick wall your meme erects around your brain is staggering both in scope and depth.

Please follow the below link and read. Dont make foolish arguments with me. you are looking too stupid to me.

http://ggiittiikkaa.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/09/rama-and-krishna-were-humans.htm

Please follow the below link and read. Dont make foolish arguments with me. you are looking too stupid to me.

http://ggiittiikkaa.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/09/rama-and-krishna-were-humans.htm

So you believe you have evidence that the religion is very old. For the sake of argument let's say your religion and books are 400 MILLION YEARS OLD!

.....It is still irrelevant, b/c it does not supply evidence indicating Vishnu is any more real than Santa. Which is what we are discussing. Your "Look over there" tactic, will not work. Try again....

Where is the evidence that indicates Vishnu is REAL and not made up like Santa?

Where is the evidence that indicates Santa is REAL and not made up like Vishnu?

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So to sum it up, you do not stay on track of the argument, ask me not to argue your irrelevant bullshit (which being irrelevant I don't have to) and insert ad hominem?

You will not win this argument without definitive proof that Vishnu exists. If you have such proof, please call your nearest University and have them take a look at it. If it is valid, you will be a rich man, who live on as a legend, both in scientific circles and religious ones.

Do you have such evidence?

Then kindly fuck off.

Brokeprophet this is a tired argument; you have one definition of evidence other people have theirs.

To say the objective is superior to the subjective is pure ethnographic bias.

I will admit there is no [definitive] material proof for God's existance, there is evidence for the theory of God; it is not unjustified even if you do not like this kind of evidence or it doesn't adhere to your definition.

Ultimately it takes faith, just like it takes faith to believe in the value of a theory or to treat it as a law.

When you treat theory as a law your going over the boundary of evidence and that is faith, and that goes for any theory scientific or religious.

Edit: There are various scholars who recognize prabhupada (sp) as an authoritative source of spiritual knowledge.

So you believe you have evidence that the religion is very old. For the sake of argument let's say your religion and books are 400 MILLION YEARS OLD!

.....It is still irrelevant, b/c it does not supply evidence indicating Vishnu is any more real than Santa. Which is what we are discussing. Your "Look over there" tactic, will not work. Try again....

Where is the evidence that indicates Vishnu is REAL and not made up like Santa?

Where is the evidence that indicates Santa is REAL and not made up like Vishnu?

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So to sum it up, you do not stay on track of the argument, ask me not to argue your irrelevant bullshit (which being irrelevant I don't have to) and insert ad hominem?

You will not win this argument without definitive proof that Vishnu exists. If you have such proof, please call your nearest University and have them take a look at it. If it is valid, you will be a rich man, who live on as a legend, both in scientific circles and religious ones.

Do you have such evidence?

Then kindly fuck off.



First you know what you are talking about. Krishna was a real person, which i have PROVED in my last post. It is indeed your arrogance that you just shifted the debate to something different. Vishnu is/was not a person. Did i say Sri vishnu is a person? He is supreme being, omnipotent, omnipresent and the most supreme GOD according to hinduism..Santa claus on the other hand IS A FICTIONAL character....

There is a difference between a omnipresent and supreme GOD and a "fictional character"


ALSO, Iam not a low life like you who will wants to make off everything.

You are being handed your ass everytime brokeprophet, not good for your health :)

^^

you shouldnt feed the trolls.

You pretty muched provoked a thread de-railment now and hes jsut going to rant on about his atheistic banter.