Ok so I've been training BJJ on and off for the last two years now and recently got back into it after finding another club (most of them close down locally due to lack of students and travelling 2-3 hours to get to a school makes me stop going after a little while). So we've been rolling for while and then we moved onto a "mini-tournament" of sorts for the guys who were a little more experienced and wanted to push a bit harder.

I caught my opponent in a keylock from top side-mount. I had it for about 10 seconds and the guy was fighting his ass off to improve his position and to not tap. After I re-adjusted my position (brought the elbow back into his body with the back of the palm on the ground) I applied pressure again and he still wouldn't tap out. I kept looking at our instructor and the others but they didn't say anything or seem concerned - so I applied more pressure, still no tap. I gradually applied more and sure enough I heard a huge pop akin to a dry carrott getting snapped and felt his arm twitch; he screamed and verbally tapped while I jumped off and kinda freaked out about it.

I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this type of scenario and if this pop could of been a break or what was it? Shoulder, elbow? He didn't seem too bad at the end of the night but he was keeping his arm against his body still.

So, should I not go back to the school and find another one because the instructors didn't step in even though it was a more serious session of "rolling"/"competing" assuming they are careless? Or should I not worry so much? I mean it is their responsibilty to tap if they get caught but we weren't competing for money and were training still.

That's his own fault if he didn't tap.

Are you white or blue? It's pretty gay, at my gym, there's this guy of which I am better than, and the instructor reckons he will get his blue belt in "6 months".

That's his own fault if he didn't tap.

Are you white or blue? It's pretty gay, at my gym, there's this guy of which I am better than, and the instructor reckons he will get his blue belt in "6 months".

I'm still a white. It's so hard to find a school outside of the cities (or at all in England) that doesn't close or move so I have to switch about a lot; I never really get much of a chance to demonstrate what I can do. I'm just concerned for the lack of concern and attention the instructors were seemingly paying.

6 months sounds like bullshit to me. Has he been training at other places or is he fresh to it? Do you ever get pissed off with the really fat guys who attend classes with no muscle? They just fucking slump on you and make no attempt at offense and some of them are so fat I can't close my fucking guard or grip their limbs or anything :mad:.

It happens. I see a lot of this with shoulder locks (kimura, americana etc.) If you feel pain, its your job to tap. Some people are really flexible and you can twist their arm all day long. Some people decide in the middle of a roll that they need to uphold their reputation. And it sucks but sometimes a little extra crank is all it takes to push a joint over the edge.

I wouldnt give him a few oppurtunities to tap, apply steady pressure as you would in a fight. You arent trying to kill them, but you shouldnt have to screw up your training because you are worried about an idiot dosent know when to tap.

Personally, when training, I tap at the feeling of pressure. By then I know im not escaping, and if I wait for that "oh shit!" pain it might be to late.

I've been there almost exactly. I didn't push it that far, and instead just told the person "I win. Fuck you" and that was that. Because I was doing this in Krav Maga and not my actual BJJ classes, it was sufficient because we all know I won and no one wanted to have anything else go wrong. We'd already been forced to leave two places before we got our own gym due to throwing one guy through a wall, people grappling under the carpet that got torn up, and other damages.

I'm still a white. It's so hard to find a school outside of the cities (or at all in England) that doesn't close or move so I have to switch about a lot; I never really get much of a chance to demonstrate what I can do. I'm just concerned for the lack of concern and attention the instructors were seemingly paying.

6 months sounds like bullshit to me. Has he been training at other places or is he fresh to it? Do you ever get pissed off with the really fat guys who attend classes with no muscle? They just fucking slump on you and make no attempt at offense and some of them are so fat I can't close my fucking guard or grip their limbs or anything :mad:.
He is new, started about the same time as me...

There's this fattie at my gym, fuckin' huge beast, we call him fartguy because he did a loud as fart while we were watching the instructor demonstrate something. Pretty lulz, no one wanted to partner with him.

I didn't push it that far, and instead just told the person "I win. Fuck you" and that was that.

This. Put your ego aside, not only are you training, but it's not worth possibly giving someone a permanent disability.

You have a sherdog account

You have a sherdog account
Never, ever, derail a BJJ thread. :mad:

Never, ever, derail a BJJ thread. :mad:

Why's everyone allways learn BJJ? Whats wrong with normal JJ? I mean it isn't like your going to need techniques especially adapted for a point scoring system in real life.

Why's everyone allways learn BJJ? Whats wrong with normal JJ? I mean it isn't like your going to need techniques especially adapted for a point scoring system in real life.
Don't really know how to answer that without a typical fanboy explanation. :cool:

But it's mostly the media that portrays BJJ, for example, the UFC and the Gracies in it.

"w0w omg i can becum tuff fihter lyke that mann ryt thurr"

Don't really know how to answer that without a typical fanboy explanation. :cool:

But it's mostly the media that portrays BJJ, for example, the UFC and the Gracies in it.

"w0w omg i can becum tuff fihter lyke that mann ryt thurr"

Stop taking my attempted derailment seriously.

i'd stay at that gym. its not the instructers fault the dude didnt tap when he was suppose too. they likely jus thought the guy was flexable. its the fighters responsability to tap or snap, you cant judge a gym by one dumb student.

Stop taking my attempted derailment seriously.
If it's about BJJ, then it's on topic. :o

Almost had my arm snapped last night lulz, didn't tap to an armbar. I was blocking it, but my hand got sweaty and it slipped off and he got it. The instructor said , "10 more seconds" so I tried to hold on.

:D And I did for the 10 seconds, but everyone was shitting bricks because it looked like my elbow was hyperextending. It wasn't, I just lifted my shoulder to ease the pressure.

stay not your fault. but next time let the guy know he needs to tap. its not about getting the sub its about learning and transitioning. dont hurt your sparring partners then you have nobody to train with. next time switch to a farside armbar and just hold it. just keep transitioning and play with him.