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Hexadecimal
2008-12-16, 21:25
Okay, so there's this omnidimensional existence way too big to fully comprehend, and totally beyond control or even minor manipulation. It simultaneously views itself through every perspective possible, and experiences itself through every individuation imaginable. Everything has already happened, but continues happening, and as far as I can tell, will always be happening although it has already finished. Each individuation gets to experience all other individuals in a giant mechanism of constantly evolving algorithms determining who we are now, next, and before. We even get to experience this existence from its most aware perspective, that of its whole, self-perceiving view. Without having to wholly switch from one view to another, we have access to the system as a whole inside ourselves. It's an ability every individual has; we are able to utilize some interior resource of our present being that catalogs all past and future beings we observe and condenses them into a direct channel with the unified being many of us refer to as God.
I'll end this with a quote from a Beatles song: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
ArmsMerchant
2008-12-17, 03:18
I have two things to say about this:
one, it sounds like gibberish;
two, I tend to agree.
But it sounds more like SotG fodder.
Okay, so there's this omnidimensional existence way too big to fully comprehend, and totally beyond control or even minor manipulation. It simultaneously views itself through every perspective possible, and experiences itself through every individuation imaginable. Everything has already happened, but continues happening, and as far as I can tell, will always be happening although it has already finished. Each individuation gets to experience all other individuals in a giant mechanism of constantly evolving algorithms determining who we are now, next, and before. We even get to experience this existence from its most aware perspective, that of its whole, self-perceiving view. Without having to wholly switch from one view to another, we have access to the system as a whole inside ourselves. It's an ability every individual has; we are able to utilize some interior resource of our present being that catalogs all past and future beings we observe and condenses them into a direct channel with the unified being many of us refer to as God.
I'll end this with a quote from a Beatles song: I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
sounds about right.
but it also sounds like you took too much acid
Exactly. Now if only I could figure out how to access this system. :mad:
Hexadecimal
2008-12-17, 21:38
sounds about right.
but it also sounds like you took too much acid
A few years ago, maybe. I don't do any drugs anymore. No drink either. I found out that meditation produces the same effects as drugs but to an even greater degree and with no side effects. DMT doesn't even begin to compare to introspective focus and the facing of deeply rooted wounds and fears.
Exactly. Now if only I could figure out how to access this system.
Baron, this sounds a little kooky, but I found out how to access this system living in a homeless shelter in November last year. I became aware of the system during a salvia divinorin trip back in 2005.
This sounds extraordinarily stupid, but you access it by talking to it, internally. It's hard to communicate with it because of how easily our mind strays and focuses in on single objects around us, or single threads of thinking inside of us, but the message will always get through, just often very muddled and unclear. The same goes for our ability to receive its messages to us. As we work to strengthen this channel of communication, our inability to focus on it slowly clears away and we begin to speak to it, and hear back from it, much more clearly and effectively. I suppose talking to it is what many call prayer, and listening to it is what many call meditation. I'll call it that when speaking to folks with a more religious leaning, but it's often not necessary, as it doesn't restrict access to anybody: I'm as happy to share this information with an atheist or agnostic as I am any theist.
Rizzo in a box
2008-12-17, 23:51
there is no chance of every understanding the universe which makes trying to understand it all the better
Interesting. Similar to insights I have had on acid. I am interested in beginning meditation, could you explain how you got started?
Rizzo in a box
2008-12-18, 03:53
Interesting. Similar to insights I have had on acid. I am interested in beginning meditation, could you explain how you got started?
sit down in a comfortable place, like a chair, sitting up straight
close yr eyes
focus on yr breathing
relax
don't fall asleep
el reformador
2008-12-18, 04:04
Exactly. Now if only I could figure out how to access this system. :mad:
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the only thing i disagree with is when you said it is too big to comprehend. i think that we're too small to comprehend. we aren't equipped with the processing ability to comprehend. further more, i don't think we're supposed to comprehend. i think we're supposed to experience our lives in ignorance of what really goes on. i don't think we should be questioning it, just knowing about it. these revelations came to me over the past six months with my research into religion, meditation, neurochemisty, as well as my studies of philosophy, mathematics, and physics. we don't know shit, and i think if we were meant to know shit we wouldn't be running into such fundamental problems as being able to prove or disprove the existence of matter.
Rizzo in a box
2008-12-18, 19:41
the only thing i disagree with is when you said it is too big to comprehend. i think that we're too small to comprehend. we aren't equipped with the processing ability to comprehend. further more, i don't think we're supposed to comprehend. i think we're supposed to experience our lives in ignorance of what really goes on. i don't think we should be questioning it, just knowing about it. these revelations came to me over the past six months with my research into religion, meditation, neurochemisty, as well as my studies of philosophy, mathematics, and physics. we don't know shit, and i think if we were meant to know shit we wouldn't be running into such fundamental problems as being able to prove or disprove the existence of matter.
intellectually you can not understand the truth or know it
directly? yes, you can
it takes more work than even studying even branch of science
although studying science will help
Gangliatic spinal demoninational divinatorial governisms
whatwhowherewhyagain
Hexadecimal
2008-12-20, 23:14
Interesting. Similar to insights I have had on acid. I am interested in beginning meditation, could you explain how you got started?
Certainly! I love sharing this kind of information.
The first (and only) requirement I know of in order to meditate successfully is the willingness to do it.
My journey in life started off with an extreme prejudice against all techniques and beliefs spiritual and religious, so I had no willingness whatever to meditate. As odd as this sounds, I had a good turn of fortune and was born with a predisposition to alcohol and drug addiction. This lead me to a jail sentence in July of 2006 when I had nothing to do but read the Bible. Now, I didn't accept most of what was in the book, but I noticed that more than it being a guidebook on how you must live your life, it was more a story book of a whole multitude of people's individual spiritual journeys (and several books of an entire nation's relationship with this entity) with an entity they all ascribed the name 'Yahweh' to.
I began attempting to contact this entity, thinking I had nothing else to lose at this point (my dignity had more than vanished). My attempts were rather fruitless up to this point, but there was born the basic willingness to seek out something that couldn't be proven empirically, yet was witnessed as a reality by people as far as history records and still is to this day.
Anyways, I continued to get fucked up and throw more and more away in my life with no real solution. I had a code of ethics, and a very strong willpower, but it wasn't enough to overcome my addictions. This brought me to my knees in a homeless shelter where I no longer had any reservations or prejudice against techniques such as meditation and prayer. I just gave it a try.
I was laying down on my jailhouse style mat in the homeless shelter, and just admitted my deficiencies and asked for help. I became entirely and completely relaxed, experienced a vision of sorts, heard the system's response, and have been practicing prayers and meditations since.
From that point, I have learned a variety of meditation techniques and methods of focusing prayers towards specific purposes - this has lead to a very balanced emotional nature and an overall sense of unity with existence. I've even had glimpses of what more religious folks would consider divine knowledge.
My favorite guide on meditation is this: http://www.shout.net/~jmh/clinic/science_of_breath/
It isn't how I first accessed the system, but it has never failed to open the channel of communication.
Again, all that matters is a willingness to do it. You may even want to start off just sitting in a chair, putting on some relaxing music, and start by imaging yourself peeling off your body and rushing through time and space. From there, cool things can happen. Focused breathing techniques like rizzo suggested, and as described in the link I provided allow one to focus their meditations on specific topics, but if you're just looking for verification as to the effects of it, any technique will suffice for now.
If you do it, it will work. If you don't, it will not. Simple, no?
Nightside Eclipse
2008-12-21, 05:29
Thanks for the guide link Hexadecimal.
Answered some questions I had about breathing.