Who cares about that shit? Not W.

"So what?"
-- George W. Bush, after conceding that the U.S. invasion brought al-Qaeda to Iraq

Soooo...you people who think Iraq was all about Saddam & the trouble he might cause? Please: name the Top Three statements from the present Administration in Washington about attempts to assassinate him, leaving his country alone & just targeting him.

Do you think that even with such a sensitive subject, that Washington couldn't say, "Difficult"..."Problematical"..."Interesting Problem"...etc. without giving out too much information?

Please: link to any such statements that you know of that were released about targeting him before the Second Gulf War.

As I've not seen anything (there is so much information (too much. no?) about everything now days. I might have missed it.

Did you see it? Have you heard? Was invasion the ONLY way?

Speak up Brave Heart.

King George the Lesser: Clearly, one of the most important parts of my job because of 9/11 was to defend the security of the American people. There have been no attacks since I have been president, since 9/11. One of the major theaters against al Qaeda turns out to have been Iraq. This is where al Qaeda said they were going to take their stand. This is where al Qaeda was hoping to take ...

Raddatz: But not until after the U.S. invaded.

King George the Lesser: Yeah, that's right. So what?...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BushLegacy/Story?id=6460837&page=2

http://thecreativeforum.com/photopost/data/507/3noose-med.jpg

Too good for some War Crims...

A life in a Spandau Prison type establishment is more fitting. After a fair & balanced trial of course! :D

On the other hand: just as male mammals but heads to establish dominance over territory & for breeding rights? Is it any different for Humans? Who better, in these times, to prove fitness against than Muslims against Judaeo-Christians?

People have got to prove themselves. Just as soon outlaw the NFL/NBA/World Cup Soccer as outlaw war. People play/watch Pro Sports, get excited & care a lot, because it is entertainment & solves & proves nothing important. Because it's not "Politics" or "Religion"? It is "safe" to care for all you're worth.

After a while...just like all those Male Bull/Stallion/Bucks/Rams who spend all Summer companionably grazing together & watching out for each other...Fall (The Fall) comes & it is time to butt horns to establish Dominance.

At least death is usually an accident with Bulls & Bucks. No use of WMD's. No involvement of cows/does/lambs/fauns. Though some Studs will kill some other male's young so the female will go into heat & bear their kid.

In the end: if Big Suits can dish it out? They shouldn't ever expect that some of us on "their" side won't see if they can take it too! :mad: :D

"My Country, right or wrong!" Doesn't mean one should support one's leaders in rushing over a cliff, just because they "say to". How many parents who use the old, "If your friend said jump off the top of a building? Would you do it too?" Are quite willing to follow their leader into Hell for specious reasons, no questions asked?

A lot of people don't support our leaders with regard to the war, they just don't care about 'butting heads' when its way over there. its easier to be apathetic and watch MTV then demand some kind of civility from our government. plus how many people do you know who just say 'fuck them sand niggers' ?

You overestimate how much of a fuck George Bush gives.

He spent the last 8 years fucking the American people in the ass, then instead of saying "Yeah, I made some bad decisions, sorry", he said "Yeah, so what?"

He doesn't even give enough of a fuck to ACT like he's sorry.

A lot of people don't support our leaders with regard to the war, they just don't care about 'butting heads' when its way over there. its easier to be apathetic and watch MTV then demand some kind of civility from our government.

It's the American people's fault for not sticking up for themselves.

In France, for example, whenever the government fucks with the people, they protest on a grand fucking scale. Remember when the government fucked with the french youth, and they started lighting shit on fire?

The government isn't scared of it's people in America. That's why we get fucked.

plus how many people do you know who just say 'fuck them sand niggers' ?

Too many. At the beginning of the war, right after 9/11, almost everybody I knew said that we should make a "Blast crater" out of the entire Middle East, and that we should go to war with France for not supporting us and all this dumb shit.

How many fucking planes have to fly into your country before you guys start giving a fuck?

How many fucking planes have to fly into your country before you guys start giving a fuck?

Read a lot about it...or just blasted out bravado over brews with your buds? :eek:

Lots of people? If they can talk loud & manly? They don't have to know dick as long as they sound manly. You're not one of those are you? Know what you're talking about to back up your position do you?

Moonmeister is a faggot. God I'm so sick of queers. Who the fuck cares if we go to war, only a pussyman is afraid of war.

Who the fuck cares if we go to war, only a pussyman is afraid of war.

You assume, incorrectly, that fear is the overriding emotion behind an anti-war stance.

Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act and Pentagon got budget and Mid-east war.

http://thecreativeforum.com/photopost/data/507/3noose-med.jpg

Too good for some War Crims...

A life in a Spandau Prison type establishment is more fitting. After a fair & balanced trial of course! :D

On the other hand: just as male mammals but heads to establish dominance over territory & for breeding rights? Is it any different for Humans? Who better, in these times, to prove fitness against than Muslims against Judaeo-Christians?

People have got to prove themselves. Just as soon outlaw the NFL/NBA/World Cup Soccer as outlaw war. People play/watch Pro Sports, get excited & care a lot, because it is entertainment & solves & proves nothing important. Because it's not "Politics" or "Religion"? It is "safe" to care for all you're worth.

After a while...just like all those Male Bull/Stallion/Bucks/Rams who spend all Summer companionably grazing together & watching out for each other...Fall (The Fall) comes & it is time to butt horns to establish Dominance.

At least death is usually an accident with Bulls & Bucks. No use of WMD's. No involvement of cows/does/lambs/fauns. Though some Studs will kill some other male's young so the female will go into heat & bear their kid.

In the end: if Big Suits can dish it out? They shouldn't ever expect that some of us on "their" side won't see if they can take it too! :mad: :D

"My Country, right or wrong!" Doesn't mean one should support one's leaders in rushing over a cliff, just because they "say to". How many parents who use the old, "If your friend said jump off the top of a building? Would you do it too?" Are quite willing to follow their leader into Hell for specious reasons, no questions asked?

not quite sure what you are arguing here (could not comprehend your thread) but i think i can see a difference between war and the world cup - the world cup doesnt kill millions of people, destroy a huge area of the earth, increase profits for undeserving billionaires etcetc.

In France, for example, whenever the government fucks with the people, they protest on a grand fucking scale. Remember when the government fucked with the french youth, and they started lighting shit on fire?


I don't think a dumbass deciding to hide in an electrical substation and getting darwin'd is the best example ;)

How many fucking planes have to fly into your country before you guys start giving a fuck?

If by giving a fuck you mean pulling out of other countries and minding their own affairs, then I agree. However, you see it as the exact opposite, he's obviously "giving a fuck" just with an actual sense of logic.

Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act and Pentagon got budget and Mid-east war.

Or maybe they're just a legitimate insurgency organization that happens to not give a fuck about bombing a few fuckers with the Americans?

What he said was taken a little out of concept.

Remember this: Bush was trying to make the best decisions based on the (un)intelligence that he received. He, and the top minds in the country made decisions based on information that we've probably never seen, and never will see. You can say that Bush failed us, but you can't say he was trying to fail us. Also, you can't blame it solely on Bush himself.

Maybe Bush had reason to believe that there was a 90% chance that going into Iraq was a good thing, but just got fucked over by the 10%. Meh, whatever, it's easier to just jump on the bandwagon and say "Fuck Bush!" It's kinda funny, it's like when people watch sports and a guy messes up, and they yell at the screen and say he sucks. There's a reason that that guy is on the field, and the one yelling isn't.

And the CIA & such saying to Bush "Don't include this or that: no evidence" then he includes those things anyways? Huh.

http://www.juancole.com/2008/12/top-ten-myths-about-iraq-2008.html

"In fact, the State Department's Intelligence & Research (I & R) division cast doubt on the alarmist WMD stories that Bush/Cheney put about. The CIA refused to sign off on the inclusion of the Niger uranium lie in the State of the Union address, which made Bush source it to the British MI6 instead. The Downing Street Memo revealed that Bush fixed the intelligence around the policy. Bush sought to get up a provocation such as a false flag attack on UN planes so as to blame it on Iraq. And UN weapons inspectors in Feb.-Mar. of 2003 examined 100 of 600 suspected weapons sites and found nothing; Bush's response was to pull them out and go to war."

What Al Qaida has done?

1. When neocon wanted mid-east war, they activated a false flag attack - 911 in the name of Al Qaida. The victim is American people.

2. When Pentagon want to stay in Iraq and ask for more budget, Al Qaida bombed the market and mosque to kill Iraqi civilians, gave Pentagon an excuse to stay. (and even with more troops there). The victim is Iraqi civilians.

3. When Americans are tired of Iraq war and civilian casulty, Al Qaida mystically weakened and the death of US troops and civilian both dropped to the bottom. It helps Republican to avoid a big issue which would embarass them very much in the election year. Once again, Al Qaida helps Bush's party.

How conveniently Bush regime plays this "terrorist" whip - Al Qaida against American people.