It's time to shut the fuck up about it. I'm so sick of it being socially and morally ok to defend and be nice to the obese. Here's an obese person that was recently used in a study by me, alone in my house:

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/files/images/obese-man.jpg

The Results: DISGUSTING.

There is a simple way to avoid being obese and there's no point in sugar coating it (they eat it up and stay obese). It's what the rest of us do: exercise regularly and control what and when we eat. It's that simple. If you don't do this it's your choice. You might eat a lot because you are depressed and it feels good, you get bullied, you like food etc. There are other options (:diet, stomach staple, exercise, teachers, councillors, drugs, education, training etc) but you've chosen this one to lighten [sic] your problems so don't complain about the effects or give sympathy to these people. There are ALWAYS options.

Not a fair thing to say? I think it is.

There is a plethora of information out there for us regarding obesity and well-being - it's shoved in our faces. Someone who turns to drugs to aleviate or soften their problems in life are harshly treated and looked upon as scum because it leads to bad things (crime, addiction, etc). There's a wealth of common information about drugs and drug use too. So why attack them and not obese people?

Obesity leads to bad things too: injury, disease, inflates medical costs, depletes otherwise plentiful resources, etc.

Whether the claim is genetics (:rolleyes:), bullying, stress, depression etc there are other options both good and bad that you can take. These people -if they are still classed such at their weight- are a fucking drain on humanity. They've made a choice and now they must deal with it.

You might be sick of the bolding I've been using but it does boil down to choice. There are a multitude of options and treatments availible to obese people and people who are borderline obese. Some might take hard work, others not so much but if people are too stupid or lazy to act then fuck them.

The fitter, healthier, smarter of us can rule over you in the end. I don't mind.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2qbuqa0.gif

http://i43.tinypic.com/2evuc8p.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/i5nqli.jpg

These guys could both put 585 pounds above their heads in less than one second. That means they can get 585 pounds as well as their massive bodies to accelerate at unthinkable speeds and secure it overhead. Now just imagine what they could do to a whiny little faggot like toothlessjoe.

Obesity is a condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to such an extent that health may be negatively affected. Those powerlifters typically have high BMI's but safe levels of bodyfat. They're still carrying too much weight for them to be considered healthy in the long run but that is a different issue.

Someone carrying too much fat (or even muscular weight as you've illustrated) doesn't escape the fact that it's an unhealthy choice they've made. Which is what we're talking about. Stop being a faggot over it.

You must be a fatty.

They're not powerlifters, they're weightlifters. Who cares about health? If I could choose between being morbidly obese and being able to clean and jerk 585 pounds, and being you, I would choose obesity. Better to live a day as a drug lord than a lifetime as a sweatshopper.

It being a lifestyle choice doesn't prevent it from being an epidemic.

It's only in the last fifty years or so that fatty, high-protein, high-carb, high-sugar food has been widely available. For the entire course of human evolution minus forty years, natural selection has rewarded those that eat as much as possible, leading to a generally greedy population. Obesity is just a problem of our genetic inheritance being unsuited to our current environment.

A few years ago I had sex with a fat chick.
She seriously sweat through all my bed sheets, it was fuckin horrible.
Fuck obese people.
(And not in the way I did)

A few years ago I had sex with a fat chick.
She seriously sweat through all my bed sheets, it was fuckin horrible.
Fuck obese people.
(And not in the way I did)

They always swallow though.

They're not powerlifters, they're weightlifters. Who cares about health? If I could choose between being morbidly obese and being able to clean and jerk 585 pounds, and being you, I would choose obesity. Better to live a day as a drug lord than a lifetime as a sweatshopper.

I have a buddy who can bench 460 pounds easily. If you don't believe me I can point you to a thread where I dicuss losing a bet over whether or not he can bench over 400.

he sure can

I have a buddy who can bench 460 pounds easily. If you don't believe me I can point you to a thread where I dicuss losing a bet over whether or not he can bench over 400.

I have a buddy who can eat fifteen pounds of raw hamburger meat in one sitting. If you don't believe me I can point you to another instance when I make the exact same claim in a slightly different manner with no actual proof.

Fat people are cool.

I have a buddy who can bench 460 pounds easily. If you don't believe me I can point you to a thread where I dicuss losing a bet over whether or not he can bench over 400.

he sure can

Who the fuck cares? One can bench press heavier weights as one is moving the weight only about 24-30 inches. Ask him to lift that weight from the floor to above his head ( a distance of more than one hundred inches ) and watch him fail to even pull it above his dick. The bench press is a bullshit lift.

Look, I can live with fat people, but I'm sick of them acting like its all glandular and shit

ok I got one family member who's fat because he never got his health back after catching a series of tropical diseases during the war, polio dysentry all that, so fair enough, but it's not like he's malnourished.

All I'm saying is, how many fat blokes do you see in pictures from aushwitz? exactly

For the entire course of human evolution minus forty years, natural selection has rewarded those that eat as much as possible

I think you're confused there.

The wealthy factory owners of generations past were in a position to eat well and be greedy. It's not because they ate well and were greedy that elevated them to success. There were loads of fat people around who weren't rich etc.

These people -if they are still classed such at their weight- are a fucking drain on humanity.

The fitter, healthier, smarter of us can rule over you in the end. I don't mind.

that is fucked up.
although you make a good point in stating that it is simply a choice. but it is a choice people become significantly weak towards. there are a bunch of factors you left out as to why obesity can play a role in one's life [stress, depression, past experiences...etc.] and i hardly view those as a choice. no one chooses to be stressed or depressed. just like no one just CHOOSES to be gay. it is what is in a humans nature. and with that it brings consequences or reactions to such emotions and fears. i.e. suicide, eating the problem away, not eating anything, addiction...etc. thus leading to many of the causes of why obesity has become a problem. who are any of us to shun them.
but don't get me wrong, i don't want to sound as if i am blaming obesity on a human emotion, because i am often stressed and depressed, and i don't weigh 300lbs. but i can admit that at times i have looked at food as something a little comforting. So i can sympathize and understand the underlying causes for obesity. Or for any CHOICE a person makes leading to bad habit or other mental breakdowns.
i think you should show a little more compassion. Maybe some understanding. although i can admit that your point brings me to thinking hard. i think that you ignore the reasoning. there is reasoning and understanding behind every choice, behavior, action, etc., and when i read this i just noticed that you refused to show any.

there are a bunch of factors you left out as to why obesity can play a role in one's life [stress, depression, past experiences...etc.]

Learn how to read:

You might eat a lot because you are depressed and it feels good, you get bullied, you like food etc. There are other options (:diet, stomach staple, exercise, teachers, councillors, drugs, education, training etc) but you've chosen this one to lighten [sic] your problems so don't complain about the effects or give sympathy to these people. There are ALWAYS options.

Not a fair thing to say? I think it is.

There is a plethora of information out there for us regarding obesity and well-being - it's shoved in our faces.

The point I have made is that for whatever reason you have you have made a choice to eat. The affect overeating can have on you is well documentated and always in the public eye. It's common knowledge. There are other options for you no matter what underlying problem leads you to binge. You've chosen the easy one: eating.

Deal with it.

i think you should show a little more compassion. Maybe some understanding. although i can admit that your point brings me to thinking hard. i think that you ignore the reasoning. there is reasoning and understanding behind every choice, behavior, action, etc., and when i read this i just noticed that you refused to show any.

I have shown plenty.

There are options you can take that are not eating, some good (teachers, councilling, etc) and some bad (rage, drugs, etc). I never said any path would be easy but there are other paths.

I have the lifestyle of an obese person yet the body of a skinny white boy. I think I'm in normal range for BMI but just on the low end. But I don't look like I weight as much as I do, I need more muscle, oh well I'm usually too stoned to get off my ass and work out.

options, yes you have. but that wasn't my point. my point was simply that the reasoning behind has a big effect on your options.
you may not be fat, but that is because your choice overall or your option overall was to be stronger and see your life and something that shouldn't be wasted or the choice to not pay hundreds in hospital bills. but not everyone has that thought process.
obese people i see as people who can't view it as anything but an unfortunate way the shape of their body turned out.
i just don't think that you have room to sit here and shun when you have not yet been in that situation yourself, and would have no idea how an obese person would feel.
you view it as weakness, and in a sense so do i, but i am not going to sit here and refer to them as disgusting purely on the fact that they might not be a strong person. obesity is unfortunate, and like you stated it is a CHOICE. but i am simply stating there is a solid reason that need be considered. and is the reason i could show sympathy.
you could give a shit about the fat person next to you.

Fat people are wierd

Hey Joe,get a set of teeth so you can overeat like the rest of us...

Toothlessjoe, I had a dream about you last night.

You were like being weird and bitching about stuff, but you didn't look like you. You looked like Cereal Killer from the movie Hackers and you had a beard.

:)

Toothlessjoe, I had a dream about you last night.

You were like being weird and bitching about stuff, but you didn't look like you. You looked like Cereal Killer from the movie Hackers and you had a beard.

:)

You really need to go outside more.

You really need to go outside more.

you really need to commit suicide :mad:

Why does everybody hate on ToothlessJoe?? Have I missed something here'

What mr toothlessjoe has left out is the self esteem, insecurity, depression and other psych related issues that are the MAIN PROBLEM BY FAR for obese people to deal with (I can't prove this, just go along with it, k?)

Exercise and healthier eating can only be tackled effectively once the psych is fixed.

The ironic thing with fat people, is that the psych can usually only be fixed by getting exercise and healthy eating going to a consistent degree.

DESPITE ALL THIS

I agree with what you have said about people believing that OBESE people should be morally dealt with with content.
The thing with people who are weak of mind is, that they usually haven't got the will power to get themselves out, which means that you usually need an external force (aka, a psychologist, friend, drill Sargent etc) to go in there and get them.

The thing about this that isn't accepted in a civil and polite society, is how difficult it actually is to deal with fat people wining about how their legs hirt, or how "they can;t possibly get better" or how no one will ever want to fuck them etc.

To deal with these kind of people as an external force, you need to be direct and hard hitting, which usually breaks the civil and polite atmosphere that ordinary people are so razzled without.

In conclusion, the accepting, civil atmosphere that our current western society has always liked is unproductive for fat people.

REPLY

Why does everybody hate on ToothlessJoe?? Have I missed something here'

Yes, you have, and I've missed it too, but I don't mind, because firstly it's funny seeing everyone hate toothlessjoe, it reminds me of steve, and secondly, he continues to provide bitch and moan with interesting topics despite the criticism.

In conclusion, GO TOOTHLESSJOE, you are more entertainment then you can imagine!

*waves flag*

It's both. I do think obesity with a 'cause' is quite different to obesity out of laziness, though, not that the causes excuse it.

anastaciadarling, its mostly not 'how their bodies turned out'. 1% of this stuff is gonna be glandular, and even if you're built 'big' you still have a choice about your level of activity and diet. The armchair view on facts relating to obesity are outdated, and we have come 20,30 years with immense amounts of research and different weight management solutions since then.

Who the fuck cares? One can bench press heavier weights as one is moving the weight only about 24-30 inches. Ask him to lift that weight from the floor to above his head ( a distance of more than one hundred inches ) and watch him fail to even pull it above his dick. The bench press is a bullshit lift.

It's not a bullshit lift, but it's a bullshit way to test one's strength. A lot of dumbasses bench press too much and get imbalances because they don't know what they're doing and think bench press is the best lift ever.

Well, to be fair, the human body didn't evolve to cope with the large quantites of sugar which now pervade the western diet. Add to that the social factors, e.g. growing up in a houshold where sugar-rich foods are the norm, and you've got a bi... significant... social problem.

Obesity is the result of a lifestyle choice, though not one in its own right. Just like there are people who choose to eat gargantuan amounts of food, there are also people who smoke and drink to excess. Are we to consider lung cancer, emphysema, cirrhosis, etc. lifestyle choices as well? What about those who choose not to use disinfectants or handle raw meat without properly washing? Are influenza and salmonella "lifestyle choices?" The point I'm trying to make is that obesity is not a lifestyle choice, but a disease. Though it may be the result of a person's own actions, so are many other things which aren't conventionally considered lifestyle choices. The distinction is slight, but it exists and it's important to recognize it as such.

I sort of like how much care toothlessjoe puts in his trolling. You gotta give it to him. He does try a lot harder than all you other poor saps. Thing is though, joe, that trolling is supposed to be funny. Not just annoying...

I think you're confused there.

The wealthy factory owners of generations past were in a position to eat well and be greedy. It's not because they ate well and were greedy that elevated them to success. There were loads of fat people around who weren't rich etc.

I'm not saying it is, just that people on the whole tend to overeat in our modern society because of our genetic inheritance. And greed is something which motivates plenty of people to success.

Obesity is a choice in the same way smoking's a choice. The ultimate responsibility rests on the individual, but there are a huge range of factors that make it much more likely that a certain individual will become obese. Metabolic factors, stress, environment, income, upbringing, psychological factors, loads of things. If a kid's raised by a family who provide him with huge, rich meals all his life, and the same kid is bullied at school and can't make friends, and the same kid happens to put on weight more easily than an average person, and the same kid grows up to weight 300lbs, can you really say that the kid made a 'choice' to be obese? It's not like people sit down and think "I'm going to eat 'til I'm huge".