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AnotherN00b
2008-12-20, 06:13
I've read a lot about what people don't like about their country on totse. so, if you were the president/prime minister/emperor, what would you do to make your country a better place?
personally i would make the justice system harsher and implement a program to stop certain people breeding and perpetuating their stupidity. i would raise minimum wage and tax the upper class more. and i would put my own house in order before i started worrying about foreign aid and peace keeping.
ReclaimPublicSpace
2008-12-20, 17:50
Make people who want to be parents take a test. Make people who want to vote take a test. Lower the voting age. Legalize all drugs, gay marriage, and gun ownership, but require tests for all of these. Etc. etc.
Basically if you want certain rights you would have to be able to prove that you can handle them...and what better way is there of doing that than taking a test!
Dichromate
2008-12-20, 19:00
Make people who want to be parents take a test. Make people who want to vote take a test. Lower the voting age. Legalize all drugs, gay marriage, and gun ownership, but require tests for all of these. Etc. etc.
Basically if you want certain rights you would have to be able to prove that you can handle them...and what better way is there of doing that than taking a test!
And I'd love to volunteer to design and administer these tests:P
(I guess that means I'm PM/President/Emperor elect now, I'll figure out what I'll do later).
Lewcifer
2008-12-20, 20:46
If I was Prime Minisiter, probably not a lot. I have a feeling a lot of my "policies" wouldn't make it through either the Commons or the Lords. However, if my title were more a long the lines of "Supreme Chancellor (PBUH)" then:
Stop ID card plans in their tracks
Stop DNA database plans
Either lead an overhaul of the legislative powers of the Eurpean Union or leave it all together
Repeal fox hunting ban
Repeal RIP Act 2000
Follow GB's timetable for withdrawal from Iraq (on the condition that more British companies are given uncontested contracts to build hospitals and infrastructure)
Put more troops into Afghanistan
Grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants currently in the country
Reduce annual quota of general economic migrants
Subsidise university fees of foreign doctors on the condition that they come to the UK to work
Stop all state trade with Israel
Increase tax on all Israeli produce entering the country
Increase economic aid given to the West Bank
Increase subsidies for dairy farmers
Enforce mandatory community service for able bodied people who have been unemployed for >6 months in return for benefits. No community service, no benefits
Decrease benefits given to the longterm unemployed for every child they have whilst on benefits
Legalise cannabis, ecstacy, mescaline and a host of other lower risk drugs
Decrease severity of punishment for non-violent crimes and low level theft
Increase severity of punishment for violent crimes (reinstate "life means life")
Increase spending on Education, decrease military spending
Increase funding for science related business, subsidise more students to study science based courses
Commission 30ft statue of myself
.....about covers it.
AnotherN00b
2008-12-20, 21:32
Make people who want to be parents take a test. Make people who want to vote take a test. Lower the voting age. Legalize all drugs, gay marriage, and gun ownership, but require tests for all of these. Etc. etc.
Basically if you want certain rights you would have to be able to prove that you can handle them...and what better way is there of doing that than taking a test!
i like this idea of testing the people. so i shall steal it and take credit for it when i take over.:p;)
vladthepaler
2008-12-20, 21:36
Mandatory sterilization & segregation at birth for genetically defective individuals.
Mandatory sterilization for those individuals who do not have the aptitude necessary to produce socially productive offspring.
Quarantine those with incurable contagions. Leave them in charge of the genetically inferior on "Retard Island" (formerly Australia).
Once the herd is culled, divide the remaining populace into smaller, more manageable city-states.
Go green.
Destroy all financial and monetary systems.
Educate & enlighten the masses.
Abolish dynasties. Having successful family members will not guarantee one's place in society. It will be based on individual merit.
Kill all the Jews.
Investigate these murders
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/
Yggdrasil
2008-12-21, 04:28
This country is so fucked, I don't see a positive way out this predicament. On that note, I'd:
Start troop withdrawal in an orderly fashion
Increase gov't subsidies for R&D firms.
Impose brutal taxes on all forms and derivates of petroleum, and to the companies handling it
Grant a bail out to auto companies, provided they are overseen by appointed personnel.
Increase funding for space program; facilities on the moon
Start massive campaign for development of practical Fusion technology
Phase out oil in a decade through quick implementation of current renewable technologies
Legalize gay marriage
Uphold gun rights, provided the person is qualified.
Start mandatory school fitness programs; healthy lunches & exercise
Legalize "light" drugs (not Cocaine/Heroin)
Work with Chinese to resolve Taiwan issue
Work with India & Pakistan to resolve Kashmir issue
Start programs for development of more efficient renewable techs
Grant path for aliens to acquire citizenship
Massive construction campaign to build efficient mass transit in all major cities
Sponsor universal health care
Provide large gov't subsidies to stem cell/medical research
Take a census every 5 years of IQ. Areas where large %'s of kids are below average receive gov't money for construction of educational facilities. Individual adults with consistently low scores required to attend courses
Decrease size of military, focus on developing more modern methods of conducting war (Lasers from planes & satellites)
Sponsor gov't program to provide all homes with internet access.
Enforce death penalty to sex offenders, murderers, etc.
Tax the Roman Catholic Church and all other religious facilities
Reduce cost of tertiary education
Start campaigns to increase urban density. Convert parts of suburbs to farmland; leave only dense metropolitan core
Build national defense works across the nation. AA around major cities, coastal defenses, extensive bunkers
I can't think of any more. Of, and hang a portrait of myself over the White House's gate. Very Mao Zedong-esque.
vazilizaitsev89
2008-12-21, 04:55
^^ I like that. I would just add a nat'l militia.
Lewcifer
2008-12-21, 04:58
Work with Chinese to resolve Taiwan issue
Work with India & Pakistan to resolve Kashmir issue
I'd be very interested to know what "working with" entails. We've been "working with" the Israelis and Palestinians for years (on and off) and that conflict has hardly been resolved.
Yggdrasil
2008-12-21, 15:08
The Pakistanis and Indians need to both fuck off. Kashmir could be an area with shared administrative powers by both nations, overseen by the UN.
As for Taiwan, they would be integrated into the PRC, provided that they are allowed Special Administrative Zone status, much like Hong Kong.
As for the Israelis and Palestinians, I would revive both Yitzhak Rabin and Yasser Arafat, give each a knife, and let them fight to the death.
Just kidding. The only real way to solve the problem is to establish a system of government in Israel similar to the one in Lebanon. Zionist Jews need to calm the fuck down.
Glasgowsweeman
2008-12-21, 21:13
If I was prime minister;
Increase military budget.
Make justice system harsher.(Chain gangs + death penalty)
Bomb the fuck out of Iran.
Kick all muslims out.
No political correctness.
Quit from the EU
Align closer to the US
Promote right wing people to control of every area of Government.
Rebuild the Navy to biggest in world (may take some time!)
Slowly start to take back the Empire (USA + Australia can stay independent )
2 years forced conscription- no fucking cop outs!
:D
Yggdrasil
2008-12-21, 23:34
^^
"This World ain't big 'nuff for the two've us"
godfather89
2008-12-22, 04:31
On The Economy:
Currently we face any economic situation that is deteriorating to the economic health of this nation in particular and generally abroad. As President, I would cut spending on all unnecessary programs and departments, lower taxes [for all] and let the market handle itself. The idea is to save money during hard economic times, with lower taxes people can have more money to save and a bit more to buy to help the economy. Just leave the market to its own operation, governments never have nor ever will know how to control the money or the economy, Soviet Russia should be a clear example of this fact! Which means get rid of the federal reserve and corporate lobbyists.
On Personal Freedoms:
Restore the Constitution, entirely! Break down all laws that are unconstitutional and allow freedom of expression, conscious, purchase and information resume without governmental oversight. No Big Brother!
On Political Diplomacy:
Get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, we spend too much money on two fronts... Battlegrounds we are not even winning. Abandon all political lobbying relation in government and actually allow for peace by having unbiased trading and be on good terms with all nations. NO "BEST" NATION Mentality, we are not kindergartners who pick a "best friend" and have everyone else just a friend or worst an enemy. I dont believe in popularity contests.
ALL OTHER SOCIAL Disputes should be taken care of by The people at their state and local levels of government. The Federal Government under my Presidency will have NOTHING to do with being some distant bureaucracy in Washington telling what some guy who lives in Nebraska should do with his farmland for example.
Dichromate
2008-12-22, 10:44
On The Economy:
Currently we face any economic situation that is deteriorating to the economic health of this nation in particular and generally abroad. As President, I would cut spending on all unnecessary programs and departments, lower taxes [for all] and let the market handle itself. The idea is to save money during hard economic times, with lower taxes people can have more money to save and a bit more to buy to help the economy. Just leave the market to its own operation, governments never have nor ever will know how to control the money or the economy, Soviet Russia should be a clear example of this fact! Which means get rid of the federal reserve and corporate lobbyists.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Are you trolling? seriously you must be trolling
godfather89
2008-12-22, 12:30
Well I am saying something controversial. But if it elicits an response in you that is emotional or you feel compelled to debate such a viewpoint I hold than please by all means do so... So in some way yes... Keep in mind what does a President Do When Running for President? Uses rhetoric and yet their viewpoint to elicit a favorable response.
anon99989
2008-12-22, 20:30
Step 1: The pope declares me Emperor
Step 2: ...
Step 3: PROFIT!
Bob65456
2008-12-23, 00:40
Assuming I'm like... a dictator and all, I suppose I'd change a few things...
Legalize gay marriage
Legalize pot
Lower the drinking age to 18
Lower the voting age to 16
Make people who want to vote have to pass some sort of test so it's known they're not stupid
Stop all stupid people from breeding
Get rid of the FED and the bullshit banks
Stop fucking up the environment
Raise the minimum wage
Get rid of the illegal income tax
just a small list
AnotherN00b
2008-12-23, 16:28
i've given this a lot of thought while drinking and reading this thread. so ontop of what i started with i would:
legalise all drugs, start selling them in the supper market. tax them like cigarettes
remove mandatory smoking bans in public places such as bars.
tax the stupid in as many ways as possible.
organise a protest rally against my own government. get all protesters together in a field. nuke field. win.
will add moar.....later
Captain Douche
2008-12-27, 05:30
I just took a little bit tooo much acid and threw up. I'd start with fixing that.
Think dumbasses.
Captain Douche
2008-12-27, 05:31
Thiiink.
Hold that thought.
Hold that thought.
Yo dawg heard you like quoting yourself so we put a quote in yo post so you can quote while you post
Cytosine
2008-12-27, 06:14
Good lord, so many things...
On a National Level:
First, I'd dismantle parliament, and the senate. All MPs would be arrested or reassigned to areas where they could be used, and party leaders executed.
All corporations would fall under the control of the state, and all production would be under strict government controls. A capitalist economy controlled by consumers would cease to exist.
Taxes would be raised astronomically, with the rich being taxed the most. A complete welfare system would be enacted with the entire population being fed and clothed by the state. There would be no homelessness. Every man and woman would have a job regardless of their education, as contributing to society would be an absolute requirement.
What constitutes a "contribution", however, would not be the same as it is now. The machinist, the scientist, and the artist all serve to enrich our lives and we must support each in turn.
An end to the prohibition of drugs with few negative health effects and little potential for addiction - this includes marijuana, LSD, psilocybin/psilocin, and the like. Heroin, meth, ketamine, and numerous other street drugs would remain illegal to produce, but possession would only result in confiscation and enrollment in an addicition program. Alcohol would be increasingly regulated and have special taxes associated with it - while under my drug philosophy it should be illegal, I doubt Canadians could deal without their booze. Tobacco would face a similar fate.
Freedom of religion would be preserved. However, the freedom to impose that religion would be completely eliminated. Belief would be as it should be; private. Groups who spew hatred ("God hates fags!"), bigotry ("God hates niggers!"), and ignorance (creationists) would be arrested under anti-defamation laws, and sent to prisons where they would be forced to work and educate themselves about the stupidity of their beliefs.
Removal of "special rights" for natives. Open the reserves up, and treat any resistance as hostile. No more claims that they "own the wind". Bullshit. We ripped their great-great-great-great-great Grandfathers off. Move the fuck on.
Education would undergo a massive reform - with children being taught that their duty extends to everyone in society, not just themselves. They would be encouraged to seek professions that they would both excel at and enjoy. By age sixteen they would be given a test similar to the G.O.A.T. in Fallout 3, or numerous career aptitude tests the world over. From there, their education would become specific to a "field" and would then continue onto more specific training as the situation warrants (clearly a scientist requires more time in school than a coffee shop attendant). This would hopefully produce a young workforce who are dedicated not only to their jobs but those around them. In the end, it won't really matter what you do for a living - the state provides all the essentials and then some.
The police and military would be merged into a more cohesive, better armed, better trained unit. Non-lethal solutions to civilian situations would be those primarily used. Deadly force should only be met with deadly force when all other options have been considered. Possibly streamline research towards creating a "phaser"-style weapon.
Go Green! Move away from petroleum fuel, and turn the prairies into a giant energy-generating station. Solar panels on every building.
Initially, dissent would be forbidden. However, as the years moved forward, those raised in my society would be permitted to take a test to become "citizens" - in essence, to get some of their democratic powers back and be allowed to vote on certain issues. The eventual goal would be a complete return to democracy, but a socialist democracy with a different philosophy than our current one.
Internationally:
Rapid troop recall from Afghanistan, and a note to the U.N./N.A.T.O. that we will never be their bitches again. If we go anywhere, and it will be a long time before we do, we want the support of other countries going in with us. None of this Rwanda bullshit again. Ever.
Begin work on a nuclear program with the intent of making Canada a nuclear superpower. No more relying on the U.S.A.
Militarization of the arctic for national defense.
Limited trade of primary resources would continue with the U.S., until other markets could be found. The border would be defended and no civilian traffic permitted.
Negotiate free trade with Cuba.
Ah, yes. Fun times. I would also officially start calling it "The Dominion of Canada". Because it sounds badass.
Australian here.
I would first declare full independence of the United Kingdom and make Australia a republic.
I would keep taxes the same, begin a Nuclear Weapons program to make us an ever more powerful regional superpower.
Give my citizens freedom of speech.
Pull all troops out of foreign nations and bring them home.
Annex all islands surrounding Australia (Sovereign or otherwise).
Begin building the Australian empire, beginning with a massive arms buildup and CMT.
Rather than attempt to rehabilitate drug addicts, I'd order their murder if they were caught doing drugs more than once.
Garibaldi
2009-01-02, 04:00
Wow, never knew that PLRC had so many closet Authoritarian/Statists
Oh wait, yeah I did...
Oh well, for shits and giggles, here's a few things I'd do off the top of my head:
- Preserve the Constitution; end the Patriot Act, MCA, etc.
- Begin a phased withdrawal from Iraq. Make it clear to the Iraqi Gov't that they either get their shit in order (eliminate corruption, sectarian leaders being parliament member, etc.) If this can't be done in a reasonable time frame, then I would invite the Iraqi Gov't, "Coalition" Members, and the UN *shudders* to discuss splitting the nation into three nations. It's not perfect, but there's no "good" way to get out of this mess that the Gov’t has got us in to.
- Abolish the Federal Reserve, begin the phasing out of the fiat currency which we currently have.
- Stop at once the REAL ID Act and any future plans for a National ID Card and RFID chips
- End the War on Drugs & Abolish the DEA. Legalize & tax "weaker" drugs (Marijuana, small dosage Opoids/Opiates, Benzodiazepines, etc.) and decriminalize all other drugs (Cocaine, Heroin, Acid, etc.) However, punishments for Driving under the influence, committing crimes under the influence, etc. will be just as harsh.
- Require the Federal Gov't (like most State Gov'ts are required) to balance its budget. Begin a debt reduction plan. Begin and audit of all Gov't sponsored/taxpayer-funded programs. Eliminate all waste programs and pork spending. Eliminate as much wasteful gov't bureaucracy as possible.
- With a balanced budget and lower National Debt, I would lower taxes across the board.
- Increase funding for NASA (after eliminating the wasteful bureaucracy parts of it). Begin plans for permanent settlements and helium-3 mining facilities on the Moon and plans for 3 phased Mars mission (robotic mission at first, then an automated mission to set up settlements, then finally a manned mission).
- Provide inducements and such for commercial/private Space missions
- End reliance on foreign oil (especially from the Middle East, Nigeria, & Venezuela) by at first utilizing our own oil and natural gas reserves. Provide funding for alternative energy, the ones that show "immediate" promise like tidal energy, wave energy, & geothermal energy. This should hopefully (I'm not an expert) buy us time to have efficient hydrogen fuel cells and eventually, fusion power.
- Provide funding for the research into Stem Cells, Cancer, AIDS, etc.
- Education... well it'd take to long to outline my view about how the Education system should be changed. However, I would see to it that "Intelligent Design", “Abstinence Only" Sex Ed, and other invasions of fairy tails (religion) into the Education System be ended. No school-sponsored prayer, no special admittances given to Muslims for their prayers, etc.
- End the tax-exempt status of all Religious institutions, especially the Catholic Church.
- Repeal most laws and/or restrictions against private gun ownership.
- Abolish the Electoral College system
- Build a closer relationship with the European Union, while encouraging (not force, induce, or bribe) them to close the floodgates on the mass Muslim immigrations into their nations.
- Immediately deport all illegal immigrants currently in jail or commit crimes.
- Begin a program for deporting illegal immigrants who leech off the gov't, while providing a path (not a b/s one, a path that actually takes effort) to legal residency for illegals who contribute to society.
- Instead of using the National Guard to fight in pointless wars, I'd use them to guard the southern border, and wouldn't reprimand any guardsmen who fired at armed illegals trying to cross the border.
- Review Defense spending, reduce spending in some areas and increase in others. The Defense Department and the Military should focus on the growing power of the SCO.
Eh, and about a million other things, but I've written enough already.