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youngnastyman
2008-12-24, 20:09
http://tinyurl.com/eurotransam
Well this is a shocker to say the least.
The one thing i wanna know is how on earth they got a stock 3000 lb-ish car to 4685 lbs and still move it that fast.
frinkmakesyouthink
2008-12-24, 20:57
I appreciate the work that's gone into it and think it's an amazing track car, but...
I can't help but think what's basically gone on here is a bunch of engineers with a lot of money have gone and said 'They think they're so smart just because they have a car that can do 250-odd mph, let's show 'em boys!' and gone and stuffed a really big engine into an old and slightly shit car.
By comparing it to a Veyron (and I'm about to go on a rant about this here) is what they've seemingly not realised is that a Veyron is the most exclusive, most expensive car in the world. It's got second-to-none engineering and design throughout, it's got excellent acceleration, braking and handling, it's an amazing long-distance tourer, it's incredibly comfortable and luxurious AND it just happens to have (when it was released) the highest top speed of any production car.
Looking at the Veyron's performance, it's incredible. It's still got the fastest 0-100-0 time of any production car, and bar one other production car (which is also very stupid for the same reasons), also the highest top speed. It came fifth on the TG test track, and the four other cars that beat it were basically stripped out racing cars with number plates tacked on, not luxury GT cars.
To say that a car is a 'Veyron-Beater' by only picking one catagory of judgement is incredibly childish. By that rationale, my Toyota is a Veyron-Beater because it has more seats, but a Veyron has one of the most luxurious interiors ever made. My mum's Fiat is a Veyron-Beater because it gets better MPG, but a Veyron is beautifully designed. A Top Fuel dragster has better acceleration, but a Veyron can out-handle the vast majority of cars on the road. And those race-cars-for-the-road are Veyron beaters because they have (a very marginally) higher top speed, but are completely eclipsed in every other respect.
/rant
Ignoring the stupid article (and anyone stupid enough to say they've made a Veyron-Beater without actually doing it properly) it's a pretty cool car. I'd like to hear the engine note
Except... it's not a production car. There are a fair few custom cars about that are faster than a Veyron.
Mr Smith
2008-12-25, 02:42
frink's right though, you can be faster, you could try to be more luxurious, you could have better handling but you can't beat the prestige that a bugatti veyron brings with it.
everyone says they could spend the money and build something faster and better for 1+ mil, but bugatti created an icon with the veyron. Half the price is probably just paying for the right to drive one.
intravenous
2008-12-25, 02:53
I don't see what the big deal is. It still has four wheels.
:D
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2008-12-25, 03:25
The Veyron is this generation's Diablo/Countach/Testarossa
/thread
youngnastyman
2008-12-25, 08:05
To say that a car is a 'Veyron-Beater' by only picking one catagory of judgement is incredibly childish. By that rationale, my Toyota is a Veyron-Beater because it has more seats, but a Veyron has one of the most luxurious interiors ever made. My mum's Fiat is a Veyron-Beater because it gets better MPG, but a Veyron is beautifully designed. A Top Fuel dragster has better acceleration, but a Veyron can out-handle the vast majority of cars on the road. And those race-cars-for-the-road are Veyron beaters because they have (a very marginally) higher top speed, but are completely eclipsed in every other respect.
I understand where you're coming from, but if you were to pick the one thing the Veyron is known for, the first thing to pop into your mind when you think Bugatti Veyron, it would most likely be the mind blowing top speed.
DavidThePyro
2008-12-25, 09:37
Shelby SuperCars Ultimate Aero already dethroned the Veyron in top speed for a production vehicle. So a more correct title would be "Bugatti Veyron sort of De-throned by a one off custom car, but only in Europe."
red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-26, 09:44
By comparing it to a Veyron (and I'm about to go on a rant about this here) is what they've seemingly not realised is that a Veyron is the most exclusive, most expensive car in the world. It's got second-to-none engineering and design throughout, it's got excellent acceleration, braking and handling, it's an amazing long-distance tourer, it's incredibly comfortable and luxurious AND it just happens to have (when it was released) the highest top speed of any production car.
To say that a car is a 'Veyron-Beater' by only picking one catagory of judgement is incredibly childish.
quoted for truth. i hate seeing articles that say they're a veyron beater. like the ssc, it hasnt hit is claimed top speed, wonder what the vector w-8 will do when it comes out, but still, wont have every thing else the bugatti has besides speed. to beat the veyron, shit you'd have to have an interior made of chinchilla, designed by all the design houses in italy, and a collibration between aston's designers, and bugatti's, and pininfarina's, along with a W-18 six turbo, with a 9 - speed triple clutch transmission, and top out at 350 mph.. that would be a veyron beater. the inteior of the veyron is f-u-c-k-i-n-g amazing. love the horse power gauge
Shelby SuperCars Ultimate Aero already dethroned the Veyron in top speed for a production vehicle. So a more correct title would be "Bugatti Veyron sort of De-throned by a one off custom car, but only in Europe."
It wasn't really, because they didn't produce enough of them for it to be official.
When has driving in a straight line ever been important, I bet it couldn't reach its top speed in under a 1/4 mile :rolleyes:
Rykoshet
2008-12-26, 21:22
No offense frink, but a custom car, especially one built off an 80s pontiac is a much greater feat of engineering than a veyron.
They basically took a 747 and turned it into a jet plane, instead of just building a jet plane. It brings a lot more bragging rights, and I think it's just cooler.
At the end of the day, the veyron may be more expensive, but there's still hundreds like it. There's only one 407km/h pontiac in the world.
That said, if I was rich, I'd much rather build a car myself than buy the best. Even if it didn't turn out to be the best, it'd be mine, and there'd be a lot more pride that came with it than if I bought it.
I'd rather have a 250 GTO that I pimped out to look like the mach 5 (a dream of mine) than a brand spanking new FXX.
Sponsored Link
2008-12-26, 21:49
Uh... what? That Pontiac has what, a 9L beast under the hood and 399 hp more than the Bugatti, and its a better car?
Mr Smith
2008-12-27, 02:02
no offense frink, but a custom car, especially one built off an 80s pontiac is a much greater feat of engineering than a veyron.
they basically took a 747 and turned it into a jet plane, instead of just building a jet plane. It brings a lot more bragging rights, and i think it's just cooler.
At the end of the day, the veyron may be more expensive, but there's still hundreds like it. There's only one 407km/h pontiac in the world.
That said, if i was rich, i'd much rather build a car myself than buy the best. Even if it didn't turn out to be the best, it'd be mine, and there'd be a lot more pride that came with it than if i bought it.
I'd rather have a 250 gto that i pimped out to look like the mach 5 (a dream of mine) than a brand spanking new fxx.
you're a fucking idiot.
THERE'S NO FUCKING BRAGGING RIGHTS. IT'S A FUCKING SHIT EIGHTIES MUSCLE CAR THAT THEY BOLTED A FUCKOFF MOTOR TO.
WHAT'S WITH MOTHERFUCKERS HAVING TO BUILD UP SHIT CARS? THE VEYRON IS FAR BEYOND ANY OF OUR DRIVING ABILITIES IN THIS FORUM, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
AND THERE'S A REALLY GOOD FUCKING REASON THERES ONLY ONE 407 KM/H PONTIAC IN THE WORLD. NO ONE ELSE IS FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH TO POUR THE MONEY INTO ONE.
DavidThePyro
2008-12-27, 02:03
like the ssc, it hasnt hit is claimed top speed
It wasn't really, because they didn't produce enough of them for it to be official.
http://www.shelbysupercars.com/guinness-world-record.php
citizenuzi
2008-12-27, 04:27
Ya know, that pontiac may not be the squirrels' nuts, but it IS fucking sick. Give some credit where credit is due. 9L? Gi-fucking-gantic turbos? 250+ mph top speed and street legal? Talk shit when you own something better.
Sponsored Link
2008-12-27, 04:32
Ya know, that pontiac may not be the squirrels' nuts, but it IS fucking sick. Give some credit where credit is due. 9L? Gi-fucking-gantic turbos? 250+ mph top speed and street legal? Talk shit when you own something better.
Well, A 9l machine that makes more power than an 8l machine isn't really that impressive.
Rykoshet
2008-12-27, 05:24
Well, A 9l machine that makes more power than an 8l machine isn't really that impressive.
The point is a group of engineers from Norway don't have nearly the same think tank or the entire Volkswagen group behind them for support.
For them to make a car that comes close to matching the Veyron is insane.
thunderstruck
2008-12-27, 05:34
Well, A 9l machine that makes more power than an 8l machine isn't really that impressive.
1400/9L is 156hp/L. 1000/8L is only 125hp/L. There just is no pleasing you hp/l, cohc loving eurofags is there.
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2008-12-27, 18:40
1400/9L is 156hp/L. 1000/8L is only 125hp/L. There just is no pleasing you hp/l, cohc loving eurofags is there.
The difference is the Veyron is covered in penises, which 'cohc loving eurofags' love so much. It couldn't be the smoothness of the power or the drivability, nor the torque curve.
Peak power = quality? Do you drive a 2jz?
Mr Smith
2008-12-28, 01:26
Ya know, that pontiac may not be the squirrels' nuts, but it IS fucking sick. Give some credit where credit is due. 9L? Gi-fucking-gantic turbos? 250+ mph top speed and street legal? Talk shit when you own something better.
i gave the motor in it credit.
ComradeAsh
2008-12-28, 02:34
Yeah, but the veyron is stable at its max speed.
Mr Smith
2008-12-28, 03:07
did i mention the bugatti isn't a gay ass eighties muscle car?
Township Rebellion
2008-12-28, 03:35
LMFAO. This post is riddled with faults. Where to begin..
No offense frink, but a custom car, especially one built off an 80s pontiac is a much greater feat of engineering than a veyron.
That's ridiculous. So, literally years of engineering back-ache combined with millions of dollars spent lovingly crafting a high-speed machine of impeccable quality from the ground up in every single aspect is less impressive than a bunch of rich guys stuffing a big motor into an old muscle car?? You dumbass. Anybody with plenty of time and money can take any old car and put 4-figure horsepower into it, it takes true hard work and genius to make a bespoke car from scratch to do everything, and make it as close to perfection as possible.
They basically took a 747 and turned it into a jet plane, instead of just building a jet plane. It brings a lot more bragging rights, and I think it's just cooler.
The 747 is a jet plane. The more correct analogy is a Cessna that's had a much bigger engine installed. Which still isn't that impressive, mind I've never really heard of modifying air-planes and don't know how hard it would be. As for bragging rights, only fools brag.
At the end of the day, the veyron may be more expensive, but there's still hundreds like it. There's only one 407km/h pontiac in the world.
407 km/h doesn't make it any less of a Pontiac. Though I do agree there is plenty of kudos building a car like that yourself, and much more kudos at actually driving a car that fast, at the end of the day it's still a heavily modified Pontiac that has become an even less enticing prospect for daily road use than it was when it was stock. The Bugatti can do 400+, but it's also comfortable, stable, uncompromised in its pursuit of automotive perfection. It even handles well and is proven to be quite reliable, whereas the Pontiac would be none of those things. It simply has a high top speed, and any qualities it had as a standard road car would be heavily compromised.
That said, if I was rich, I'd much rather build a car myself than buy the best. Even if it didn't turn out to be the best, it'd be mine, and there'd be a lot more pride that came with it than if I bought it.
Well sure. At least this is correct. Mind, if I had the coin I would have both cars of my own hand as well as high-end production machines. Just because you didn't make it doesn't mean you aren't allowed to appreciate and enjoy the numerous qualities a factory machine has. A Porsche or Lamborghini or Bugatti would enjoy much higher build quality that a few guys in a private garage could ever hope to match, the proof being the uncountable number of "custom" machines that have attrocious interiors and ugly body kits. Another example are the numerous british sports cars being made these days by a bunch of enthusiasts with over-optimistic ambitions, and each and every one of them fail. Hard.
I'd rather have a 250 GTO that I pimped out to look like the mach 5 (a dream of mine) than a brand spanking new FXX.
:eek::mad: you would destroy a 250 GTO??? You imbecile! Seriously, you have that backwards: you should rebuild a brand new FFX to look like a Mach 5, 250 GTOs should simply be left to bask in their legendary glory. A good example is this:
http://robson.m3rlin.org/cars/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ferrari_p4-5_by_pininfarina_2006_05.jpg
It's the Pininfarina P4/5, and it was rebuilt using a Ferrari Enzo. Its body is lighter and more aerodynamic, and it recalls the legendary Ferrari 330 P3/4 or the 60s. It was commissioned by an american collector and is a one off. And, a classic was not sacrificed to make it.
koz_1048
2008-12-28, 04:32
Errr... The Veryon goes to 253mph... Which is still faster than that thing...
And err, the Veryon was dethroned well over a year ago...
And um, how the fuck can you compare the two?
2JZs & RB26s have both been tuned by guys to produce over 1000hp. So? Go get on by the time you get a Supra to 1,400hp, it'll still be 10 times cheaper than a veryon. Cool ain't it?
What a joke.
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2008-12-28, 04:39
Errr... The Veryon goes to 253mph... Which is still faster than that thing...
And err, the Veryon was dethroned well over a year ago...
And um, how the fuck can you compare the two?
2JZs & RB26s have both been tuned by guys to produce over 1000hp. So? Go get on by the time you get a Supra to 1,400hp, it'll still be 10 times cheaper than a veryon. Cool ain't it?
What a joke.
True that bro. Who doesn't like peak power at 7000 rpm and 6000 rpm of turbo lag?
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-28, 05:22
/rant
Yea, you're just made because America beat Europe. :p
Anyway, America really does win at making a faster, cheaper, more economical, and far more powerful production car even with two fewer turbos: http://www.supercars.net/cars/3621.html
(This car has two turbos and you should recall the Veyron has four and a plethora of intercoolers and radiators.)
The Veyron is this generation's Diablo/Countach/Testarossa
/thread
This. Really, the Veyron is fast and it's probably luxurious, but they still have a face only a mother could love. It's just mostly eye candy for people who like to keep up with the latest happenings of Britney and Kevin.
koz_1048
2008-12-28, 10:49
True that bro. Who doesn't like peak power at 7000 rpm and 6000 rpm of turbo lag?
Chuck a supercharger on it. That would ( in theory atleast) make up for the turbo lag.
Mr Smith
2008-12-28, 12:35
Yea, you're just made because America beat Europe. :p
Anyway, America really does win at making a faster, cheaper, more economical, and far more powerful production car even with two fewer turbos: http://www.supercars.net/cars/3621.html
(This car has two turbos and you should recall the Veyron has four and a plethora of intercoolers and radiators.)
This. Really, the Veyron is fast and it's probably luxurious, but they still have a face only a mother could love. It's just mostly eye candy for people who like to keep up with the latest happenings of Britney and Kevin.
four turbochargers is a cool thing in itself.....
Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2008-12-28, 14:32
Fastest cars around Nordschliefe? a Dodge 'truck engine bolted to a railway track chassis' Viper and a Chevrolet 'pushrods and leaf springs are sooo 1952' Corvette.
2JZs & RB26s have both been tuned by guys to produce over 1000hp. So? Go get on by the time you get a Supra to 1,400hp, it'll still be 10 times cheaper than a veryon. Cool ain't it?
Yeahup, the quad digit power barrier has well and truly given way. It's no longer so impossible to get 1000hp or hell 2000hp out of inline sixes, bent eights, and vee-10s which were formally garden variety (not so much with the still exotic V10), in this new age.
WHAT'S WITH MOTHERFUCKERS HAVING TO BUILD UP SHIT CARS? THE VEYRON IS FAR BEYOND ANY OF OUR DRIVING ABILITIES IN THIS FORUM, SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
Uhh, the Bugatti Veyron is designed to be a car "anyone" can drive.
To say the Veyron isn't the best of the best is stupid. Find me ANY other car that weighs over 4000lbs, has under 1000rwhp, is luxurious, easy to drive, and makes all of it's power reliably.
Take a look at the SSC Ultimate Aero, it's making 1,287hp, weighs under 3000lbs, is basically a stripped down car without radio, air conditioning, etc., and it can JUST barely beat the Veyron in ONLY top speed, but nothing else.
The Veyron is currently the BEST of automotive engineering the world has ever seen, and probably will be that way for a good while.
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-28, 21:05
Uhh, the Bugatti Veyron is designed to be a car "anyone" can drive.
It has user-adjustible power limits?
MrFishHat
2008-12-28, 22:16
Fastest cars around Nordschliefe? a Dodge 'truck engine bolted to a railway track chassis' Viper and a Chevrolet 'pushrods and leaf springs are sooo 1952' Corvette.
We Americans really are the best at a lot of things. In this case its going really fast around a track for probably less money then Europeans with similar times.
It has user-adjustible power limits?
No, but the car was designed to be able to be driven by anyone as a daily. Maybe not reach it's top speed and what not, but anyone who is a competent driver SHOULD be able to drive a Veyron.
Keep in mind a good amount of the reason the veyron is stable at speed may be the extra half ton of crap it's lugging around with it, compared to other performance cars.
Sponsored Link
2008-12-29, 02:50
It has user-adjustible power limits?
gas pedal
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-29, 03:11
Keep in mind a good amount of the reason the veyron is stable at speed may be the extra half ton of crap it's lugging around with it, compared to other performance cars.
lol
DavidThePyro
2008-12-29, 07:15
Uhh, the Bugatti Veyron is designed to be a car "anyone" can drive.
To say the Veyron isn't the best of the best is stupid. Find me ANY other car that weighs over 4000lbs, has under 1000rwhp, is luxurious, easy to drive, and makes all of it's power reliably.
Take a look at the SSC Ultimate Aero, it's making 1,287hp, weighs under 3000lbs, is basically a stripped down car without radio, air conditioning, etc., and it can JUST barely beat the Veyron in ONLY top speed, but nothing else.
The Veyron is currently the BEST of automotive engineering the world has ever seen, and probably will be that way for a good while.
So somehow heavier weight makes it a better performance car?
BTW, the Ultimate Aero has a 'navigation system, 10-speaker audio/CD/DVD system, video/DVD screen, back-up camera, air-conditioning, and trunk space' as options.
And in addition to top speed, the SSC wins in the price category, being around 1/3rd the price. 0-60 goes to the Veyron, 1/4 mile time and trap go to the SSC.
I don't mean to take anything away from the Veyron here, but give the SSC it's credit.
So somehow heavier weight makes it a better performance car?
BTW, the Ultimate Aero has a 'navigation system, 10-speaker audio/CD/DVD system, video/DVD screen, back-up camera, air-conditioning, and trunk space' as options.
And in addition to top speed, the SSC wins in the price category, being around 1/3rd the price. 0-60 goes to the Veyron, 1/4 mile time and trap go to the SSC.
I don't mean to take anything away from the Veyron here, but give the SSC it's credit.
Uhh, when a car that weighs twice as much can accelerate faster, and be nearly as fast, with LESS power makes it a MUCH more impressive piece of machinery to me.
The SSC used to break the "fastest production car in the world" has no radio, video/DVD screen or any other features like that. It comes purely as option on the SSC, and it shouldn't reach the top speed with all that stuff.
The SSC is an amazing car, but I think the Veyron still has it beat by leaps and bounds. And this is coming from someone who very much prefers domestics.
wolfy_9005
2008-12-29, 10:43
But the Bugatti is ugly as fuck...
wolfy_9005
2008-12-29, 10:44
gas pedal
Win!
And brake pedal ofc :)
citizenuzi
2008-12-29, 17:42
Meh, I'll still take a TT Viper for the less than the $100k it'd cost, streetable @ 800-1000hp and potential for 1500-2000.
Meh, I'll still take a TT Viper for the less than the $100k it'd cost, streetable @ 800-1000hp and potential for 1500-2000.
A TT Viper does NOT cost less than $100k, I personally know two people with 1100+rwhp TT Vipers.
red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-29, 23:03
http://www.shelbysupercars.com/guinness-world-record.php
they first claimed 270 mph achievable (but i guess the aerodynamics couldnt support it).
but with just a few mph separating the ssc from the veyron, its really unimpressive IMO.
dont get me wrong, they're amazing cars, but the veyron has the most amazing interior in the business, and looks good. to me its more of a high speed tourer, where the ssc is a balls-out top speed machine. its like the modern 30 mm avenger chaingun, fast, and a precise piece of machinery. the ssc is just like a big 155 mm anti-tank gun, semi-crude, but damn powerful.
ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-29, 23:12
Uhh, when a car that weighs twice as much can accelerate faster, and be nearly as fast, with LESS power makes it a MUCH more impressive piece of machinery to me.
<insert Chevy V8 engine talking points here>
ComradeAsh
2008-12-30, 00:59
<insert Chevy V8 engine talking points here>
Well, on the one hand, they have 8 cylinders...
red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-30, 02:30
you could pull wayyy more bitches in the bugatti veyron. especially the new targa one, or pur sang, or expensive hoes with the hermes edition.
/thread
citizenuzi
2008-12-30, 03:29
A TT Viper does NOT cost less than $100k, I personally know two people with 1100+rwhp TT Vipers.
OK?? So you're telling me if I buy an RT/10 or GTS for $40-50k I won't be able to work the engine (and chassis for that matter) for less than another 50??
youngnastyman
2008-12-30, 12:26
where are all you people getting these points like "Oh the interior is so good" Have you actually sat in it?
Don't believe all the reviews and things you read. The seats could be too soft or too firm, the driving position could be off. You don't really know until you've sat in it which you haven't.
DavidThePyro
2008-12-30, 12:39
Uhh, when a car that weighs twice as much can accelerate faster, and be nearly as fast, with LESS power makes it a MUCH more impressive piece of machinery to me.
The SSC used to break the "fastest production car in the world" has no radio, video/DVD screen or any other features like that. It comes purely as option on the SSC, and it shouldn't reach the top speed with all that stuff.
The SSC is an amazing car, but I think the Veyron still has it beat by leaps and bounds. And this is coming from someone who very much prefers domestics.
First of all, 1/4 mile time and trap go to the SSC. Last I checked, that's a form of acceleration. The Veyron will 0-60 faster because it's AWD. I bet if it were RWD, it could do better than 253mph..
How much weight does a nav system, even with 10 speakers add? Can't be more than 100lbs, and due to the fact that top speed has very little to do with weight, and everything to do with frontal area and CD, which are obviously not affected by interior options... I doubt it would change the top speed by enough to be bested by a Veyron.
If a prettier interior, which is entirely subjective, and the fact that it's more 'techy' mean 'beats by leaps and bounds,' you're correct. If it moistens your naughty bits, cool, but when discussing facts, try finding some facts to discuss first...
Mr Smith
2008-12-30, 12:53
you could pull wayyy more bitches in the bugatti veyron. especially the new targa one, or pur sang, or expensive hoes with the hermes edition.
/thread
what do you mean by especially?
you'll pull so many stunners with the regular veyron it's not funny.
Sponsored Link
2008-12-30, 17:32
where are all you people getting these points like "Oh the interior is so good" Have you actually sat in it?
Don't believe all the reviews and things you read. The seats could be too soft or too firm, the driving position could be off. You don't really know until you've sat in it which you haven't.
Because when VW was building this car with several hundred million dollars in hand, they went WELL HAY FRITZ I THINK THIS LUKS GUD WEL LEEV IT LIK DIS and built the car with a shitty driving position and plasticky interior.
red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-30, 19:14
what do you mean by especially?
you'll pull so many stunners with the regular veyron it's not funny.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/13_bug_vey_gs_press.jpg
top comes down, panties come down. especially in socal
red_eyed_wonda
2008-12-30, 19:28
Because when VW was building this car with several hundred million dollars in hand, they went WELL HAY FRITZ I THINK THIS LUKS GUD WEL LEEV IT LIK DIS and built the car with a shitty driving position and plasticky interior.
i sat in one at the silicone valley auto show. most amazing feeling materials used ever. its more than a fucking million dollar car itself. they left nothing to spare in development
where are all you people getting these points like "Oh the interior is so good" Have you actually sat in it?
Don't believe all the reviews and things you read. The seats could be too soft or too firm, the driving position could be off. You don't really know until you've sat in it which you haven't.
Would that spoil the interior if it wasn't to ones individual tastes? Would that mean all the reviews are wrong, and it isn't nice for what it is?
Uhh, when a car that weighs twice as much can accelerate faster, and be nearly as fast, with LESS power makes it a MUCH more impressive piece of machinery to me.
That's just AWD at work, not any kind of amazing engineering.
intravenous
2008-12-31, 02:35
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/08/13_bug_vey_gs_press.jpg
top comes down, panties come down. especially in socal
You'd pull all of the same vapid whores in the regular Veyron man.
Sponsored Link
2008-12-31, 02:52
You'd pull all of the same vapid whores in the regular Veyron man.
Vapid whores that I'm sure neither of us would complain about.
Township Rebellion
2008-12-31, 03:27
Um, I'm sure you guys remember that it was a bunch of europeans that built up that Firebird, not Americans..?
Fuck all y'alls. The Veyron is fucking cool, it'll pull all the hot bitches and it's extremely fast and just about the finest piece of engineering modern technology can allow... except it's a bit too heavy and not quite as focused as it could be. The SSC Aero is even faster, but about as classy as a karp. Dunno how it handles, but considering its american origins, it'll probably steer as well as it looks. As for crazy hot-rodded machines like the car the OP posted, any fool with lots of money can hire a bunh of smart asses, point to whatever shitbox they have lying around and say "make that really fast".
Fuck all that. I still think the ultimate supercar is the Mclaren F1. Oh sure, it'll "only" do 240 MPH, but it's also way waaaaaay hotter, lighter, leaner, and cooler than anything else mentioned in this thread. It has a 6.1L V12 designed by legendary BMW engineer Paul Rosche and as well as having mountains of grunt, is also considered the finest sounding engine ever fitted to a road car:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrZ-AQ0QXV0
Yes, I know Tiff is a dickwad, but just listen to that thing!
Aaaaaaand... the regular version has a passenger seat each side of the driver... hence, two hot bitches. And don't thnk you couldn't pull 'em with one...
That's just AWD at work, not any kind of amazing engineering.
Then why aren't there a plethora of other AWD 250+mph cars out there? :rolleyes:
OK?? So you're telling me if I buy an RT/10 or GTS for $40-50k I won't be able to work the engine (and chassis for that matter) for less than another 50??
You wont be able to build a TT Viper for less than 100k. Maybe, and a VERY big maybe if you do it yourself, but no one builds TT Vipers themselves.
DavidThePyro
2009-01-06, 01:32
Then why aren't there a plethora of other AWD 250+mph cars out there? :rolleyes:
You wont be able to build a TT Viper for less than 100k. Maybe, and a VERY big maybe if you do it yourself, but no one builds TT Vipers themselves.
There isn't a huge market to support many million dollar supercars. There is a twin T4 turbo kit for Vipers at $10k... $40k for a clean 00-03... I don't think the install is $50k.
intravenous
2009-01-06, 10:18
Vapid whores that I'm sure neither of us would complain about.
I'd tap it but I wouldn't talk to it.
Mr Smith
2009-01-06, 13:40
I'd tap it but I wouldn't talk to it.
you should have seen this chick i fucked on the weekend.
god i love being 18 haha. i was on a ridiculous amount of e/speed/bud/alcohol.
now i have to go to the doctors and piss in a cup :(
red_eyed_wonda
2009-01-06, 23:22
now i have to go to the doctors and piss in a cup :(
lots o water, b-complex, and eat some meat. should fool the standard test.
water to dilute, b-complex to yellow, meat for creatine for the specific gravity.
heh, used to deal with drug tests in high school.... parents would wonder why my car smelt like bud, the rare chance they got in it, and whenever they would test me it would be negative, so they gave up. by the time i was 17, i hadnt got in any trouble, and did well in school, so they let me drink at the house, and smoke. was f'in sweet in that big ol house i used to be in.
now my piss is so dirty, i'd probably get water intoxication before diluting it enough ;)
ya think 18 is sweet, spend some time in college hitting on the freshmen. heh.
Mr Smith
2009-01-07, 01:34
haha nah not a drug test man, just making sure i didnt catch anything rofl.
those home tests are peasant, we used to get them in highschool.
haha i am in college (uni) now man, im almost 19 n finished highschool (11-12) in 07.
i love chilling with the girls in human movement on my lines off, they're all so fucking hot :)
Cowboy of the Apocalypse
2009-01-07, 05:17
lots o water, b-complex, and eat some meat. should fool the standard test.
water to dilute, b-complex to yellow, meat for creatine for the specific gravity.
..Why do you think Vegemite is so popular in Australia?
red_eyed_wonda
2009-01-07, 06:30
haha nah not a drug test man, just making sure i didnt catch anything rofl.
ah, yeah, those tests are teh suck, but last time i had one done i had blood drawn too. when i got the results back clean for everything much oxy was munched that day. was just looking through my pictures i have saved on my phone, and some are kind of shocking to have so many pharmaceuticals, and not remember taking the pictures. i have a picture of 4 norco 10/325's and like 10 5/500 vikes and a couple of oc 40's on this desk that my computer is at, but no recollection of ever taking it... and benzos out the ass, my primary doc is old school, and loves em. gave my moms valium for dizziness, i got dalmane for sleep. fucking dalmane! good shit! #30 30mg!! water soluble benzo!! $3 co-pay!!! (arrgh getting into bltc mode haha)
Mr Smith
2009-01-07, 08:18
lol nah i love opiates, i was getting oc 80's for $5 a pill a little while ago.
red_eyed_wonda
2009-01-07, 08:39
lol nah i love opiates, i was getting oc 80's for $5 a pill a little while ago.
you, sir, are a bastard. i wish i could get some that cheap. maybe if i bought like a couple hundred tevas, i got the name brand ones for $10 a year back, and loved it. but recently i've got roxi's for cheap... easier to break down. i've had vast experience with everything except some rc's, mescaline, pcp (only did a low dose), and special k. free needle exchanges 'round these parts are a big tease. 10 rigs a day free + replacements for however many you return (although they stopped carrying teurmo's in my size :/ BD's are allright, just not the same feel.), sharps boxes, wipes, filters, tourniquets, DI water, saline, and condoms (heh, since i've moved out here i've never bought any, get handfuls for free!)
Mr Smith
2009-01-07, 09:25
haha i dont bang but the needle exchange in my city was shut down by the government years ago.
mescaline, rc's, special k, peyote etc are pretty much unheard of in my city. benzos can go fuck themselves, blackouts suck.
this years supposed to be relatively drug free for money/gym purposes.
intravenous
2009-01-07, 10:37
RC's and ketamine aren't that hard to find in Australia man. Unless you're in the territory or some shit.
The active chem. in Peyote is Mescaline by the way. I had the shit once, it was a fucking laugh. I was spitting and watching laser beams shoot out of my mouth, ahah.
intravenous
2009-01-07, 10:41
(although they stopped carrying teurmo's in my size :/ BD's are allright, just not the same feel.)
What the fuck are you talking about?
A syringe is a syringe, all you need to worry about is the gauge and needle length.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/brownbomber/100_1001.jpg
mmmm, bloodz.
ComradeAsh
2009-01-07, 10:44
. I was spitting and watching laser beams shoot out of my mouth, ahah.
Oh, don't tempt me.
Mr Smith
2009-01-07, 10:47
RC's and ketamine aren't that hard to find in Australia man. Unless you're in the territory or some shit.
The active chem. in Peyote is Mescaline by the way. I had the shit once, it was a fucking laugh. I was spitting and watching laser beams shoot out of my mouth, ahah.
In my town it's not abundant by any means. I'm more into opiates/benzos/coke/ecstasy majority of the time as well. Shrooms/acid/bud every now and then.
This place is wacked though. Kid's pay $35 a pill n $40 a tab.
a gram of coke runs $300 min. :( it's fucked compared to what we pay in Sydney or Melbourne for the shit.
intravenous
2009-01-07, 10:55
WA is worse dude. Kids will pay up to $50 for an e. I used to have mates who would get on in Melbourne and drive all the way to Perth to make their sales, just because of the ridiculous monies they could bring in by doing so.
Not me officer. Lul.
Mr Smith
2009-01-07, 14:33
lol NYE is a mad little earner.
i bought a 20 bag of pills (in this dream i had) and sold them for $45-65 each (i think i paid 12 each, I went in with a few mates for a substantial amount, in this dream that i had). I didn't tell anyone i had pills until about 1.30 in the morning to. (in this dream, occifer!)
frinkmakesyouthink
2009-01-08, 21:48
I think drug testing in schools is fucking disgusting. Drug testing by parents shows fucking awful parenting.
Unfortunately it seems that it's on the way in in the UK too. Who cares if you smoke a bit of weed or take some pills at the weekend. It's no worse than drinking, and if it's affecting your studies then its your problem, not the drugs. If you're using coke or heroin then your problems are deeper than a few late essays anyway.
Maybe if the testing was carried out by a separate clinic within the school that offered support and advice, then I'd approve, but if it's going to affect your academic life or go on any sort of permanent record, it's fucking wrong.
Mr Smith
2009-01-09, 01:44
i went to a private school lol, it didn't matter if you failed the drug test. All that happened was your parents made a 'generous contribution' to the school and they gave you another 'chance'. I was also doing coke in highschool. rofl, I still got into one of the better uni's in australia (yeah i know it's not much...lol)
rofl/
so anyone in this forum not using drugs?
frinkmakesyouthink
2009-01-09, 01:48
^ Not any more.
Mr Smith
2009-01-09, 01:50
yewww.
this year is drug free cause i need the money for other things, like a house. that and im keen to focus more at the gym .
Proxymatic
2009-01-11, 18:25
I appreciate the work that's gone into it and think it's an amazing track car, but...
I can't help but think what's basically gone on here is a bunch of engineers with a lot of money have gone and said 'They think they're so smart just because they have a car that can do 250-odd mph, let's show 'em boys!' and gone and stuffed a really big engine into an old and slightly shit car.
By comparing it to a Veyron (and I'm about to go on a rant about this here) is what they've seemingly not realised is that a Veyron is the most exclusive, most expensive car in the world. It's got second-to-none engineering and design throughout, it's got excellent acceleration, braking and handling, it's an amazing long-distance tourer, it's incredibly comfortable and luxurious AND it just happens to have (when it was released) the highest top speed of any production car.
Looking at the Veyron's performance, it's incredible. It's still got the fastest 0-100-0 time of any production car, and bar one other production car (which is also very stupid for the same reasons), also the highest top speed. It came fifth on the TG test track, and the four other cars that beat it were basically stripped out racing cars with number plates tacked on, not luxury GT cars.
To say that a car is a 'Veyron-Beater' by only picking one catagory of judgement is incredibly childish. By that rationale, my Toyota is a Veyron-Beater because it has more seats, but a Veyron has one of the most luxurious interiors ever made. My mum's Fiat is a Veyron-Beater because it gets better MPG, but a Veyron is beautifully designed. A Top Fuel dragster has better acceleration, but a Veyron can out-handle the vast majority of cars on the road. And those race-cars-for-the-road are Veyron beaters because they have (a very marginally) higher top speed, but are completely eclipsed in every other respect.
/rant
Ignoring the stupid article (and anyone stupid enough to say they've made a Veyron-Beater without actually doing it properly) it's a pretty cool car. I'd like to hear the engine note
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cooldarkknick
2009-01-15, 04:18
The SSC Ultimate Aero TT hit 254.15 mph, beating the Veyron, which got 252mph. So, the Veyron has been de-throned for a long time now.
Mr Smith
2009-01-15, 05:36
you stupid fuck.
can you fucking read you sizzle dick motherfucker?
it has been clearly stated, numerous times in fact, that the SSC does indeed have a higher top speed, but this alone doesn't make it a Veyron beater.
open your stupid fucking eyes and read frinks post, it's quoted in the one above yours...
http://gearpatrol.com/images/caterham.r500.jpg
The true Veyron de-throner. Faster round the Top Gear track!
frinkmakesyouthink
2009-01-15, 13:06
I take back everything I said. If someone offered me one of those or a Veyron, I'd take the Caterham any day.
citizenuzi
2009-01-15, 15:00
Caterham CSR makes me splash. Any cat or 7 lookalike for that matter!