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Gold n Green
2008-12-25, 13:32
So anyway, someone I know must think I'm weird and bought me crystals for Christmas. I have green quartz, blue agate, sodalite, citrine, carnelian, haematite and a clear quartz, in a little pouch thingo.

Now, are these things really actually necessary for spirituality? I thought I was doing fine before without them.

Allegedly, they are for chakras or something, which I am not convinced are real anyway. Now, according to these kinds of philosophy, your chakras need to be good to astral project, which I can do. Therefore, why would I, according to this pattern of belief, require crystals? I seem balanced enough already.

Also, what's the deal with not letting anyone touch your crystals? I'm confused. I might go chuck them in a river or something, let a platypus develop psychic powers or something.

Nightside Eclipse
2008-12-25, 23:35
You said you don't believe in chakras? Is there a reason (I'm interested).

I think various crystals can bring you the appropriate desire if someone is experienced with what a stone can do.

Have you heard of the crystal skulls? I've heard they have healing energies.

Gold n Green
2008-12-26, 05:55
The reason is as follows:

From what I read about chakras, there are different ones for things like love, libido, anxiety/tension, honesty, whatever.

Now, that all comes from the brain and how your brain reacts to situations as well as hormones, personality, neurotransitters, right?

The chakras seem to just be an old way of trying to understand the different facets of who we are, eg, The Lion King, where Simba says something about how the stars are dead ancestors or whatever, and Pumba goes on to explain what a star is.

Old knowledge is usually just guesswork.

Also, never having considered chakra work before, I can astral project, I have a very bright aura, visible by people who don't even know how to/never tried to/never have seen auras before.

So yeah, I consider the chakras a bit nonsense and superstitious.

Not to say that I do not believe in spirituality, or mystical stuff, or God, or whatever, but spirituality has to evolve when further understanding becomes available.

Fuck
2008-12-26, 19:10
Due to my experience with lucid dreaming, I'm obliged to say visualizing certain colors on certain areas or "chakras" of the body can promote a certain "type" of dream to happen.

According to my experience with an amethyst cluster, I'm obliged to say laying with one near the stomach region can cause one to wake in a really deep "sleep paralysis" state in which they feel as if the stone weighs 2000 tons and is energetically keeping them still. Also, sleeping with the stone near the eyes can cause what is here in reality to appear as an "overlaid" image in your "dream sight".

That's all I'm going to say. I'm not really sure what to do with crystals but they definitely have some effect on the human body that most of us do not understand.

ArmsMerchant
2008-12-26, 19:30
There are an awful lot of superstitions regarding various metaphysical things, which I deplore since they tend to discredit the whole field.

I would advise against discarding the crystals--seems disrespectful to the devas. Give them to someone who can appreciate them.

Gold n Green
2008-12-27, 07:01
There is a river near me, in fairly dense, untouched by modern man, bushland. Lots of native wild life. Things like koalas, wallabies, turtles, snakes (they're everywhere, never seen any in there though, but haven't been looking), all types of lizards as well as endangered fish species which are not even supposed to exist in this river. Hawks, black cockatoos (not supposed to be here either...), and other birds which are supposed to be extinct in this area. This river turns from fresh, to brackish, to salt, to open ocean, eventually. It also changes environment from bush, to suburban, to urban, to industrial, to suburban again, to areas around manufacturing, oil refineries etc, the further down river you go. Where I am the water is crystal clear and not salinated. Up river from me, there are mining interests potentially going to destroy the source of the river, hopefully environmental extremists do something about it, if the government won't. There is also an underground river connected (sort of, same area) with this river. The types of fish I know to exist in there require freakishly clean water to survive, and are even hard to keep in a tank where you can regulate everything. All parts of the river contain fish though, and water dependant bird life, it is fairly clean, perhaps from tidal flushing?

I haven't noticed introduced species in there, apart from a single fox I saw once, but foxes are hard to get a look at. Never noticed rabbits or rabbit warrens, doesn't say there aren't any, however, calicivirus would have greatly reduced their numbers, and foxes eating them, as well as snakes entering burrows. The foxes would probably also eat small native marsupials, rodents and what have you, including birds. Never seen feral cats or dogs in there, surprisingly.

No deer, as far as I am aware.

It is probably the most natural remaining Australian bush around, in regards to biodiversity and animal populations, and it is relatively unheard of. There is no grass there, grass is an introduced species. Australian grasses are nothing like lawn grass, more sedge like, and I am not considering that grass in this sense.

I don't know how much bush there is near me, but I'd say over 50000 acres easily.

I am also convinced there are Yowies in there. Yes, sounds crazy, I don't care.

Now, these crystals would not be naturally occurring in my vicinity. What do you think about putting them somewhere discreet in the river? After all, isn't the river the lifeblood of the area?

ArmsMerchant
2008-12-27, 22:23
^Good idea, IMHO.

Yggdrasil
2008-12-29, 18:42
You said you don't believe in chakras? Is there a reason (I'm interested).

I think various crystals can bring you the appropriate desire if someone is experienced with what a stone can do.

Have you heard of the crystal skulls? I've heard they have healing energies.

I don't quite know what you meant in your first two statements, so I'll leave it at that.

But I'll have to stop you at the crystal skulls. If you are alluding to the crystal skulls of an alleged Mesoamerican origin, then you my friend are alluding to a proven hoax. Repeated testing on the skulls show that they were all created in the 19th century, in Germany.

For example, there is the case of the famed F.A. Mitchell-Hedges. He alleges to have found the skull during an archaeological dig in Central America, and he kept it ever since, publishing books and charging people to see it; a tradition carried on by his daughter in his death. She claimed the skull to be thousands of years old, as well.

When she finally handed it over for scientific analysis in a laboratory, it was absolutely concluded that the skull was fashioned with modern, metal tools, as is the case with every other crystal skull. Afterwards, the bitch refused further analysis, yet shekept on charging money and writing books.

Continue talking about chakras if you will, because I have limited knowledge on what they're all about, and it therefore would be presumptuous of me to argue for, or against, something which I know so little about.