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Gold n Green
2008-12-27, 19:51
I distinctly remember, and I have a freaky memory, that there was a guy in the USA who was federally banned from purchasing weapons.

He made his own Stens. The BATFE got on to him, and wanted to burn him.

The court decided, whist he was not allowed to legally purchase a gun, he was allowed to make his own for personal use, not have to register them, was unable to transfer them, and did not have to serialise or mark them in anyway. Something to do with his 2nd Amendment rights.

If one day it becomes illegal to be a Christian, speak put against the government, that would make it illegal to legally purchase guns.

Well, now you have a loop hole with precedent set.

If you can't find it online, don't worry. The powers to be probably had it sanitised, as they do.

Fuck the system!

Pray for peace, train for war. (http://svr.gov.ru/)

Please note, I despise communism, extremist Islam, but some people are above all that and are just playing the global game the way it has to be played.

reggie_love
2008-12-28, 05:25
...what?

Martian Luger King
2008-12-28, 05:27
LOL, what a fucking mall ninja.

ilovechronic
2008-12-28, 05:33
Thats better than a keyboard niinja^

Martian Luger King
2008-12-28, 05:36
I don't know about that.

ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-28, 05:55
I seem to recall that manufacture of a weapon for which the BATFE has not allowed you to make can legally only be made for personal use. That's the law, if I am to recall this correctly. What the law is very clear on is that you cannot make a fully automatic weapon that you have not been given authority to manufacture and/or operate by the BATFE, which I suspect he got hit for.

I happen to love and admire pure communism. (It's part of Christianity, you know.) Of course, the best we have at this stage of cultural evolution is capitalism.

Gold n Green
2008-12-28, 06:55
It worked something like he was federally banned from all firearms, so the BATFE wouldn't let him do anything.

Some supreme court or something said he was allowed to make his own, just not get involved in anything 'legal' such as what the BATFE regulate. Therefore, he was legally allowed to be outside the law.

Pure communism won't work because the kind of people who want power are easily corruptible, and the kind of people who would run it perfectly would never get involved in such shenanigans.

ilovechronic
2008-12-28, 07:00
anyone can build there own ak or ar in semi auto without any registration or serial number. It is non transferable like you said. That is what you do when you build aks from receiver flats or you drill a 80% ar lower.

ArgonPlasma2000
2008-12-28, 07:13
It worked something like he was federally banned from all firearms, so the BATFE wouldn't let him do anything.

Some supreme court or something said he was allowed to make his own, just not get involved in anything 'legal' such as what the BATFE regulate. Therefore, he was legally allowed to be outside the law.

Now, I'm currently consuming alcoholic beverages, but how is this "federally banned from all firearms" different from a felon not being able to own a firearm? (According to state law or some such... In my state I know that a convicted felon has the possibility of holding a CCP, so I would reason a convicted felon would also be able to own a firearm in this state of MS.)

Pure communism won't work because the kind of people who want power are easily corruptible, and the kind of people who would run it perfectly would never get involved in such shenanigans.

I disagree with some caveats, but such arguements are reserved to some other thread. Suffice only to say that purpose must overtake greed in order for any form of communism to flourish, and that I do not think that institutional communism can function with maximal personal freedom and perpetude if such an economic system is federally mandated and if such a system is centralized.

Like I said, communism has been a part of Christianity, as it is recorded, ever since Christ left the disciples. Christianity was never meant to be, nor can be, a sort of government over people as opposed to such things as Stalinism, fascism, democracy, etc. I believe that communism should stem from a belief of altruism and selflessness, regardless of religion. I believe that is the only way to preserve both maximal personal freedom and perpetude of such a system.

Honestly, I find it humorous that I speak of rights and freedoms and my beliefs of Christianity under the same breath when many of my bretheren try their entires lives to take rights and freedoms away from us.

Gold n Green
2008-12-28, 07:28
Now, I'm currently consuming alcoholic beverages, but how is this "federally banned from all firearms" different from a felon not being able to own a firearm? (According to state law or some such... In my state I know that a convicted felon has the possibility of holding a CCP, so I would reason a convicted felon would also be able to own a firearm in this state of MS.)

Yes his being a convicted felon would have done it. I don't know the exact terminology except he was not allowed to own any type of firearm, nationwide.

I disagree with some caveats, but such arguements are reserved to some other thread. Suffice only to say that purpose must overtake greed in order for any form of communism to flourish, and that I do not think that institutional communism can function with maximal personal freedom and perpetude if such an economic system is federally mandated and if such a system is centralized.

Like I said, communism has been a part of Christianity, as it is recorded, ever since Christ left the disciples. Christianity was never meant to be, nor can be, a sort of government over people as opposed to such things as Stalinism, fascism, democracy, etc. I believe that communism should stem from a belief of altruism and selflessness, regardless of religion. I believe that is the only way to preserve both maximal personal freedom and perpetude of such a system.

Honestly, I find it humorous that I speak of rights and freedoms and my beliefs of Christianity under the same breath when many of my bretheren try their entires lives to take rights and freedoms away from us.

There aren't many true Christians alive. Just frauds.

Check Ephesians 6:12 for a good reference. That's NT, not OT. I think...