The BBS will be down for a couple of hours later tonight. I'm making a few upgrades.

Do not panic.

Thank you. Also what are the upgrades?

And who hacked the enigma account?

Thanks for the heads-up.

[big friendly letters]Don't panic.[/big friendly letters]

Everything is back on-line now.

Jeff, you gonna tell us who used the enigma account and raped everything?

Also waiting for you to accept my friendship request, because this is MYSPACE, NOT SPARTA.


:)

Jeff, any news on what the hell happened in the beginning of November? Who hacked this place?

While you're at it, upgrade your management. After over 989,000 km on bad roads, I'm sure it needs a complete overhaul.

I didn't see this topic until now. I panicked.

While you're at it, upgrade your management. After over 989,000 km on bad roads, I'm sure it needs a complete overhaul.

They're upgrading themselves. King_Cotton just gave his account away in Half Baked and every other forum he could post in: http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2185538

Pretty sad when good and faithful Templars need to do this just to get their valid concerns addressed. Great work once again, zok. You rock man. Don't step down, just keep dragging the place further into the toilet with your lazy, uncaring and self-centered attitudes.

Now you guys are going to turn this thread into a shitstorm again.

Pretty sad when good and faithful Templars need to do this just to get their valid concerns addressed. Great work once again, zok. You rock man. Don't step down, just keep dragging the place further into the toilet with your lazy, uncaring and self-centered attitudes.

I'm doing my part to try to "fix" this idealogy and ineptitude. Hopefully THIS thread will make some waves......

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2185606

Now you guys are going to turn this thread into a shitstorm again.

There is absolutely no "again" in any of this. The original shitstorm never left, its just many people decide to put their head in the sand and walk away from the idiocy. Here we go......11/15/08 from the words of Jeff Hunter himself...

I'll be posting a full account of who did what, and when, and how, pretty soon. I'm trying to give the culprit a chance to fess up and redeem himself first, but he's still pretending to be an innocent bystander.

Nobody made him put this post up, he wasn't forced at gunpoint to promise us whatever info. But promise he did....and now we all sit here reading about him prattling on about petty operational nuances of this place.

Nobody fuckin cares Jeff, especially since you are creating quite the recent history of LYING to everyone. Either fix your fucking website or GTFO. At the very least quit promising things to people and then never deliver......its irresponsible and lazy. Probably why the rest of the staff under you behaves in such a manner without doing anything around here, too.

No Agent 008...nobody is "turning it into shitstorm". Just commenting on it......

Jeff you are the 10,000 visitor. You lucky dog.
Also you did promise to reveal the truth about who hacked Totse. I do not think the guilty party will come forward and confess and ask for forgiveness so it is time to out him. We already know it was Snoopy and the " we are above the rules gang".

I think it's great that you keep up with any important updates that Totse needs.

Keep up the good work, Jeff! Times are changing, and Totse may need to change with it if you want it to keep going strong.

There is absolutely no "again" in any of this. The original shitstorm never left, its just many people decide to put their head in the sand and walk away from the idiocy. Here we go......11/15/08 from the words of Jeff Hunter himself...



Nobody made him put this post up, he wasn't forced at gunpoint to promise us whatever info. But promise he did....and now we all sit here reading about him prattling on about petty operational nuances of this place.

Nobody fuckin cares Jeff, especially since you are creating quite the recent history of LYING to everyone. Either fix your fucking website or GTFO. At the very least quit promising things to people and then never deliver......its irresponsible and lazy. Probably why the rest of the staff under you behaves in such a manner without doing anything around here, too.

No Agent 008...nobody is "turning it into shitstorm". Just commenting on it......


You always complain about Zok and acidmelt and that usually has some reason behind it but why are you complaining about Jeff. He is not prattling, he is just informing the community why the site was down. While he did promise to post a full explanation of what happened he said why he is not doing it immediately. I'm sure that he has a good reason and it is not because he is lazy. There is also no history of lying, just one post and even that might not be a lie.

You always complain about Zok and acidmelt and that usually has some reason behind it but why are you complaining about Jeff. He is not prattling, he is just informing the community why the site was down. While he did promise to post a full explanation of what happened he said why he is not doing it immediately. I'm sure that he has a good reason and it is not because he is lazy. There is also no history of lying, just one post and even that might not be a lie.




Does acidmelt even post or come by anymore? Last his profile said he was on the other day was 12/4/08

Does acidmelt even post or come by anymore? Last his profile said he was on the other day was 12/4/08

Acidmelt hasn't been online since the day the hacker made the announcement.

mods=fags

Wow... this thread got heated FAST!

*is still curious of who hacked Totse*

Acidmelt hasn't been online since the day the hacker made the announcement.



Really? Interesting perhaps a conspiracy. Funny this all happened just days before I made my return of two years absense. Wish I was here for the madness.


BTW are the forums moving slow as dog shit for everyone else too? I have to open multiple tabs because it takes 2 minutes to load each page.

Despite being a mod and despite being a 'fan' of Jeffs, I have no problem with criticising him and there is a lot one could criticise...and I have.

BUT

People, you are being unfair.Obviously Jeff has very little 'totse time' at the moment. Probably for reasons of family, work and actually having a fucking life. The couple of hours he seems to get here a week he could easily spend just working through his inbox. Sorting out the damage the hacker did took him several weeks and still isn't quite finished as far as I can tell. Following the hacker back through the logs will take quite a while.

Well if the password was not 123456 then he would not have been hacked!!!!

ohshi-

Well if the password was not 123456 then he would not have been hacked!!!!

ohshi-

I can assure you that was not the password. I still have one of the passwords that went to the enigma account somewhere, although it's guaranteed not to be the current one. (I might even have two -- the one that the account had when I got it, and the one I put on it. I know it was changed again when Zok got it though.)

I can assure you that was not the password. I still have one of the passwords that went to the enigma account somewhere, although it's guaranteed not to be the current one. (I might even have two -- the one that the account had when I got it, and the one I put on it. I know it was changed again when Zok got it though.)



Just because I came back to the site after this happened but wasn't the enigma account a ghost account basically and what was it used for in the first place? I know many forums do this. Perhaps in case someone tries taking over another mod/admins account they can still gain access?

Just because I came back to the site after this happened but wasn't the enigma account a ghost account basically and what was it used for in the first place? I know many forums do this. Perhaps in case someone tries taking over another mod/admins account they can still gain access?

enigma was, and is, Jeff's backup account. The problem that let someone use it has been fixed now, I sincerely hope at least.

On Jeff's most recent visit here, and right after he messed up the configuration once again and made the site slow, he closed the Totse mail server down while he was at it. As a by-product of his further and demonstrated gross incompetence, at least we do not have to worry about any unauthorized account password resets, at least for the time being.

On Jeff's most recent visit here, and right after he messed up the configuration once again and made the site slow, he closed the Totse mail server down while he was at it. As a by-product of his further and demonstrated gross incompetence, at least we do not have to worry about any unauthorized account password resets, at least for the time being.
Just account locks.

*dances to Jeffs soothing musical voice*

Jeff, I found some mince pie. Do you want it? It's yours!

Jeff my uncle gave me herpes, do you want it? It's yours!

Nah, not really. Happy new year you old dog.

I'm doing my part to try to "fix" this idealogy and ineptitude. Hopefully THIS thread will make some waves......

http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=2185606

My apologies to the community in providing this teaser/link that ended up getting out and out deleted by the administrators. Of course it didn't break any Totse rules in the least.....as evidence to that fact is I haven't been infracted/banned because of it. Nope, it was just your usual atypical day at the New Era Totse.....*whoosh* shit disappears on a whim and a prayer. :)

The good news is that thread didn't really need a long shelf-life any how.......as long as it got past a 10 minute or so window, the message got out to any and all that needed or desired it. Considering it did have about a 4 hour play, and I already got responses from it......obviously word has or will spread around about its contents.

Kinda hard to unring a bell, ain't it?

ROFLMFAO @ the idiocy and futility of some of the fools with their hands on the trigger......

You always complain about Zok and acidmelt and that usually has some reason behind it but why are you complaining about Jeff. He is not prattling, he is just informing the community why the site was down. While he did promise to post a full explanation of what happened he said why he is not doing it immediately. I'm sure that he has a good reason and it is not because he is lazy. There is also no history of lying, just one post and even that might not be a lie.

He was/is prattling......because for him STILL not living up to his talks of..."I'll get back to you soon on what happened" and droning about about petty operational semantics is just plain silly. Kinda like the State promising an execution, and while everyone is waiting around tapping their feet expecting some carnal vanquishing.....the warden decides to bless us with a rant about the mechanisms and innerworkings of handcuffs. Ummmmmm, ok????

And really dude, just how much seriousness could you take from this statement?


I'm trying to give the culprit a chance to fess up and redeem himself first

That is the kind of thing you would try while rooting out who put the tacks on the 5th grade teacher's chair. But hey...it IS a crazy world and this being Totse, people sat back and wondered just what the fuck was going on. And then a couple days go by, and don't those words start to appear even sillier? A week later? Several weeks later? Now over a month and a half?

You tell me InvisibleMode, when you read those words on 10/15/08......if someone could go to you and say ***Psssst***** it will be 2009 and Jeff still won't comment about the hacker.......would you still describe all of this as being on the up and up? You think we are REALLY getting the truth from Jeff?

Not to mention his whole take seems to go in complete conflict to the bread crumbs that Jack is leaving about all of this. Jack still has HIS moderator tag,nor is anyone above him coming to the table to correct him........ so it sure as fuck ain't like Jeff is waiting on Jack to "confess his sins".

Multiple months now and the ONLY thing we have to go on is Jack's bread crumb trail to Hansel and Gretel's house....and the witch ain't there, the kids ain't in the oven, and the house ain't made out of gumdrops either.

Tell me, exactly what the fuck HAS Jeff been truthful about?

...and the witch ain't there, the kids ain't in the oven, and the house ain't made out of gumdrops either.


Lets get some facts straight shall we? The house was made out of Lebkuchen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebkuchen), gumdrops are a modern american bastardisation of the original.

We must be accurate in such matters.

Yes I am still a mod, I assume that Jeff has decided that I was as much sinned against as sinful....because make no mistake, most of what *cough* evidence *cough* there is points squarely to me.

He was/is prattling......because for him STILL not living up to his talks of..."I'll get back to you soon on what happened" and droning about about petty operational semantics is just plain silly. Kinda like the State promising an execution, and while everyone is waiting around tapping their feet expecting some carnal vanquishing.....the warden decides to bless us with a rant about the mechanisms and innerworkings of handcuffs. Ummmmmm, ok????

And really dude, just how much seriousness could you take from this statement?




That is the kind of thing you would try while rooting out who put the tacks on the 5th grade teacher's chair. But hey...it IS a crazy world and this being Totse, people sat back and wondered just what the fuck was going on. And then a couple days go by, and don't those words start to appear even sillier? A week later? Several weeks later? Now over a month and a half?

You tell me InvisibleMode, when you read those words on 10/15/08......if someone could go to you and say ***Psssst***** it will be 2009 and Jeff still won't comment about the hacker.......would you still describe all of this as being on the up and up? You think we are REALLY getting the truth from Jeff?

Not to mention his whole take seems to go in complete conflict to the bread crumbs that Jack is leaving about all of this. Jack still has HIS moderator tag,nor is anyone above him coming to the table to correct him........ so it sure as fuck ain't like Jeff is waiting on Jack to "confess his sins".

Multiple months now and the ONLY thing we have to go on is Jack's bread crumb trail to Hansel and Gretel's house....and the witch ain't there, the kids ain't in the oven, and the house ain't made out of gumdrops either.

Tell me, exactly what the fuck HAS Jeff been truthful about?


Yes, the fact that it has been one and a half months since Jeff's announcement has been disappointing. I thought it would all be sorted out by now instead of staying mysterious for no good reason. I still take Jeff's statement seriously because it seems like something he would do just out of principle, the same way he demoded the hacker mods out of principle. Jeff has been truthful about every other announcement he has made and he never really specified a time except the word "soon". I don't think Jeff has a reason to lie to the community. If he made a mistake he could easily say so and everything would be fine. So I still expect that Jeff will provide a full explanation.

Can't. we. all. just ACCEPT the fact that we are dealing with both inept and bumbling management along with skewed policies, and simply be done with it once and for all (!), and then go back to being one happy family again... that's... uhh... errr... ruined and torn down?? I mean... jeeezusss. How much farther could we take this thing anyways? Kind of like beating on a dead dog, ya know?

So the site has been running a bit slower for everyone then?

If anyone cares, I just tested it and the Totse email server is back up. Password resets and registration should be working now.

So the site has been running a bit slower for everyone then?



Yes, for about the past week or so.

Yes, for about the past week or so.

Cool, I thought my computer was in need of a format again

System maintenance routines are running day and night in the background. Soon, all things will be well, and all manner of things will be well. It's all for the greater good, so never fear, people. Never fear.

System maintenance routines are running day and night in the background. Soon, all things will be well, and all manner of things will be well. It's all for the greater good, so never fear, people. Never fear.This one too...

Cool, I thought my computer was in need of a format again


Yeah thats what I thought it seems to slowly be getting better, at least today isn't that bad.

Alexa reports that 79% of sites are faster than Totse, with a load time of 4.2 seconds. In the past three months, Totse has had a Global Internet Visitor increase of 7%, and a traffic ranking increase of 1,080 rankings, however, unique page views are down by 22%. These numbers draw a grim picture for us. Persons are coming to Totse, but not finding anything much of interest, and may actually be dissatisfied with its performance.

Totse is the typical short-term lover.

Alexa reports that 79% of sites are faster than Totse, with a load time of 4.2 seconds. In the past three months, Totse has had a Global Internet Visitor increase of 7%, and a traffic ranking increase of 1,080 rankings, however, unique page views are down by 22%. These numbers draw a grim picture for us. Persons are coming to Totse, but not finding anything much of interest, and may actually be dissatisfied with its performance.

That is EXACTLY what those numbers tell, and saying its grim is putting it lightly. Most interesting about that 7% increase is that isn't necessarily a "Totse" matter...so much as its a behavorial matter of the surfing habits/abilities of the rest of the world. Meaning if some ISP in Mozambique decided to finally allow access to this and other similar websites. Koonta Kintay decides to Google "bomb making"......wham, right here to the text files.

So now we have a HIGHER customer base, but sales are still decreasing. :( WTG Totse Senior Staff......keep on keepin on what you do best....

*Fun Fact* Its believed that most of the deaths that happened on the Titanic were from hypothermia when people were in the waters of the frozen ocean for so long. With all of that in mind, does anyone know exactly which course Jeff is taking this ship? Are we headed for the poles or instead the Equator? Because all the members here should have as much information as possible while planning their escape routes.

Totse is the typical short-term lover.



Very true. In all the years I've been here Totse has always started out slow, sped up, slowed down, sped up. Its an on/off thing thats nothing really new. Things cost money and expenses over time has increased as we gain more visiters an users.

If in fact the picture painted by both Spectral and Daguru about the site's traffic is correct, which is highly possible, what can be done to increase the flow of users to the site. Obviously, getting the load times back to normal would be great.

But then, I'm fairly certain we delve into the realm of the administration, an argument I wish I'd rather not get tainted by so early, but am eager to find out more about.

Other than that, increased user flow would be nice, but do we really want this site to be on the scale of something the likes of 4chan? With the registrars open, there has been a renewed flow of users, but what of what sorts?

Obviously, I can't generalize, me being part of that flow, but I had lurked the site for months prior to registration opening. Then, when I decided to register, the email server was closed so I waited even longer. Throughout those times, I remember that I'd gag of laughter at threads in SG, while others were genuinely interesting. The other forums were also homes to lively discussion.

Now, I can tell you that it seems that SG creeps closer and closer to becoming some sick monster-child of HB and 4chan. Obviously, this is not the administration's fault (Or is it *darts eyes like maniac*), but rather a result of new users who can't be both logical and humorous. They oaf around, instead.

This site is in in a bit of the pits, but not all is bad. I can tell you that discussion in forums like Politics, My God, and the Humanities are as lively as ever, but a larger flow of users would certainly add livelihood to the debates. Problem is, some new users have the belief that this is a place for the lulz, and act like they have shit for brains.

Maybe a public re-education program?

*dances to Jeffs soothing musical voice*
creep:p

Alexa reports that 79% of sites are faster than Totse, with a load time of 4.2 seconds. In the past three months, Totse has had a Global Internet Visitor increase of 7%, and a traffic ranking increase of 1,080 rankings, however, unique page views are down by 22%. These numbers draw a grim picture for us. Persons are coming to Totse, but not finding anything much of interest, and may actually be dissatisfied with its performance.


No shit?:rolleyes:

Maybe a public re-education program?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7D8TGskWXg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7D8TGskWXg



http://www.heartsandminds.org/fotos/MSCAstressedMan.jpg

I miss the days when TOTSE was like the wild west... there weren't many rules, trolls were rampant, and if someone called you out, you didn't go run to the mods/admins, you just came back with guns blazing and then the war was ON!

I also miss the truly lulzy posts... HTS-Noob comes to mind almost immediatly... but there were others... like tr1p... who while super gay gave this place some flavor.

Totse with its current regime of mods kind of made this place bland and sterile. Well comparitively to about 3 or 4 years ago (i know, my join date says I'm newer than that, but I've been here since 2000-2001)

Anyone remember back when Bombshock.com and Totse were at war defacing each others websites? THOSE were the golden days of Totse. Totse will never again be that place of "I can find ANYTHING about ANYTHING I want if I dig deep enough"... now its just "STFU AND USE GOOGLE NOOB!"

If the above were the case, then there is no need for totse, because google can answer all of our questions, thus eliminating the need for forum interaction... because hey, we can just STFU and google it ourselves.

Life was better before the moderators had this much power. Back when they only locked the threads that NEEDED to be locked (like Goatse and browser-crashing links.)

Also, the totse IRC channel is a joke... bunch of retards spamming and posting youtube links to shit that no one cares about. The mods in there are a joke too... kick for stupid things like ONE LINE OF ALL CAPS (sorry meta, can't kick me here you dick...), but they leave the asshole alone who pings everyones names on a constant basis, or the constant youtube spammers, or the people who are just there to aggrivate everyone else.

I think the current mods are way too comfortable with their positions here, and the mods need to be turned over on a more regular basis, so as to keep things fresh around here. I'd say every 6 months or so, we should rework the mod table and give some new blood a chance to mod, if they suck, unmod them and try someone else.

I miss the days when TOTSE was like the wild west... there weren't many rules, trolls were rampant, and if someone called you out, you didn't go run to the mods/admins, you just came back with guns blazing and then the war was ON!

I also miss the truly lulzy posts... HTS-Noob comes to mind almost immediatly... but there were others... like tr1p... who while super gay gave this place some flavor.

Totse with its current regime of mods kind of made this place bland and sterile. Well comparitively to about 3 or 4 years ago (i know, my join date says I'm newer than that, but I've been here since 2000-2001)

Anyone remember back when Bombshock.com and Totse were at war defacing each others websites? THOSE were the golden days of Totse. Totse will never again be that place of "I can find ANYTHING about ANYTHING I want if I dig deep enough"... now its just "STFU AND USE GOOGLE NOOB!"

If the above were the case, then there is no need for totse, because google can answer all of our questions, thus eliminating the need for forum interaction... because hey, we can just STFU and google it ourselves.

Life was better before the moderators had this much power. Back when they only locked the threads that NEEDED to be locked (like Goatse and browser-crashing links.)

Also, the totse IRC channel is a joke... bunch of retards spamming and posting youtube links to shit that no one cares about. The mods in there are a joke too... kick for stupid things like ONE LINE OF ALL CAPS (sorry meta, can't kick me here you dick...), but they leave the asshole alone who pings everyones names on a constant basis, or the constant youtube spammers, or the people who are just there to aggrivate everyone else.

I think the current mods are way too comfortable with their positions here, and the mods need to be turned over on a more regular basis, so as to keep things fresh around here. I'd say every 6 months or so, we should rework the mod table and give some new blood a chance to mod, if they suck, unmod them and try someone else.

B&M..

I think the current mods are way too comfortable with their positions here, and the mods need to be turned over on a more regular basis, so as to keep things fresh around here. I'd say every 6 months or so, we should rework the mod table and give some new blood a chance to mod, if they suck, unmod them and try someone else.Several moderators, and also a super-moderator, suggested this very thing, and were overruled by zok, who stated there really isn't any problem. Nothing really wrong here at all. You see the dilemma.