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Vanhalla
2008-12-30, 23:21
The Devil

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http://supertarot.co.uk/image/devil.jpg



Fallen angel who rebelled against God

Identified as the serpent in the Garden of Eden, whose persuasions led to original sin and the need for Jesus Christ’s redemption. The accuser the tempter the dragon

Author of lies and promoter of evil

Dark ages = 5th century – 13th century


Poorly understood this symbol was during the dark ages of Christianity.
Hark here my friends, and we shall initiate upon a journey seeking deeper understanding of this ancient symbol.

The Devil ~ Ass-Face ~ Baphomet ~ Pan
http://www.florin.ms/pan.jpg

To further understand what this means, we must examine the esoteric meanings associated with Capricorn and Saturn.

http://www.luckylegendary.com/upload/images/Capricorn.gif

The Sun reaches its zenith when the universe in relation to Earth is in the Capricornian cycle.
In Capricornus is the winter solstice, or the birth of The Christ. The energy of the Father of which he embodies is still but a babe.
The Divine madness of spring is foreseen in the meditative madness of winter.
The Sun turns Northward from here.
Winters sleep has finally come, but sleep does not mean death.
The time is here to contemplate plans for the coming spring, preparation for the time when once again we burst forth into the rays of Aries.
Within the quietude of winters breasts rests the seeds of summers glory.
In length the days will gradually grow, and from the outer-stillness and inner-restlessness, new life will emerge.

The earth of http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ulKVQ1bOi-LzPM:http://cgi.astrology.ca/bjasmine/wallpaper/zodiac/sglass/capricorn.jpg
is not the deep fields of Taurus or the shifting sands of Virgo. It is the mountain pushing its way out of the Earths core and into the sky, growing slowly, increasing as the aeons pass.

It is interesting to contemplate the devils roll in the tree of life, as well as the other 21 paths.
http://www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/theatre/thothtol.jpg


Capricornus
Latin for “horned male goat” or “goat horn”
In mythology Capricorn was associated with the mountain goat and the mer(sea)-goat[expresses the esoteric nature].

With thin legs and strong hooves the mountain goat slowly but surely makes his way higher up, each step bringing him closer to the juicy leaves and plants of which he seeks.

http://www.bagsofbargins.com/photos/12891893_full.jpg

It is interesting to think about the spiral nature of the goats horn and then to contemplate on the purpose of torsion fields (http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=36).


Now then, lets move on to the planet which rules Capricornus.
Saturnus/Satanus.

http://xce.xanga.com/2ade30167445323533/w22994.jpg

I’m not going to speak much of the mythology, just the esoteric concept.

Helpful limitations constantly interact with our third density vibratory level, challenging our belief systems, providing a catalyst for growth.

The lessons of Saturn teach man to harmonize his imagination
http://www.scorpiodream.com/images/T-44-Crescent-Moon-.jpg
with the immediate circumstances of his life.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Knotwork-cross-multicolored.svg/600px-Knotwork-cross-multicolored.svg.png


http://g.astrology.com/course/beginners_astrology/AC-0562.jpg


One must face the tests of his material existence before entering into the realm of the soul.
When Satan’s vibrations combine with the egocentric personality, people will trade their souls for temporal power. Man must imagine his way out of the perilous situation his belief systems have lead him into.

Saturn/Satan is the bridge between the forces of Universal Consciousness and the forces of the personal self, material existence.

Satan the teacher says, “Hark, young friend. Before you move on to the sixth step, you must first grasp the essence of the fifth!”


It some what reminds me of the mild frustration I have experienced with the glimpse of the soul realm attained in dreams, where I read these very interesting ideas in a book yet can only bring a vague memory of what was read there back into my brain (sine waves and 2012). The details vanish yet the essence remains.

All that is experienced in all incarnations, in all vibratory frequencies, occurring simultaneously are known in great detail and clarity to the spark of God that we really are beyond the veil of illusion, within our true Selves. Yet we remain unaware of this vast wisdom within us all because of the collective and personal veil that we have chosen to erect.

This veil can be thought of as the author of lies, however that is disagreeable to me.
It perpetuates the scapegoating of Saturn, the direction of consciousness towards the problem without contemplating why this problem is here in the first place.
It is by generating enough strength to overcome temptations through self discipline and redirection of desire that evolutionary progress occurs.

Concentration on polarity (God vs. Satan Good vs. Evil) strengthens disharmony.

The task for the divine race of man is to enter into a plane of consciousness free of duality, to see the Unity and Harmony in the structure of the Universal Plan.
Dichotomy is but a tool which may lead to a state of perfect balance. Enabling transcendence of both poles.


As we can see by looking through the daily headlines, our priorities and our belief systems are being molested by Satan. This friction is a wonderful thing and is a highly necessary tribulation that is acting as a catalyst for the thinning of the collective veil of mankind and for planetary healing.

Very interesting times we are in, with the increasing intensity of this new energy and all.
I’m glad I made it here, to experience this with you guys.

countdown2chaos
2008-12-30, 23:53
Ironically Vanhalla, in the last thread I made, titled "interesting read," most my paper is dedicated to writings about Lucifer and his soul group complex, you should check it out.
If you read it, then you'll have my discussion of the very topic of this thread. ;)

Corrupt_Nerd
2008-12-31, 10:03
Do what thou wilt

I always thought of the Devil as a symbol of our connection with the Subconscious.

The Seagoat represented by Capricorn gives me the thought of being half on land and half in the waters. The waters being the dream world. Alive in the physical plane and the astral plane.

Earth plus water equals mud/clay. You can create with Clay.

Flesh plus soul equals human.

The goat is said to represent the flesh while the fish is said to represent death. The Death card is correspondent with the fish or a dolphin.

The Devil card is also attributed to the Hebrew Letter Ayin which has a value of 70.

The Devil card according to the Key of it All is attributed to the English Letter R and has a value of 11. You can take a look at the Key here www.regulus93.blogspot.com (http://www.regulus93.blogspot.com)

Notice how the English Letter R is very similar to the Capricorn symbol.

Love is the law

Rizzo in a box
2009-01-02, 22:48
The Adversary is best described in the terms, "dark lustful femininity"

ArmsMerchant
2009-01-05, 20:05
The Adversary is best described in the terms, "dark lustful femininity"

Are you serious?

With all due respect, it sounds like you have been reading the Malleus Maleficarum.

Rizzo in a box
2009-01-05, 21:00
Are you serious?

With all due respect, it sounds like you have been reading the Malleus Maleficarum.

What?

No, that term comes from one of the scriptures in the Nag Hammadi library.

Gold n Green
2009-01-15, 15:49
The theory of the devil from a Christian perspective is the temptation to do things that draw you away from God, evil deeds if you will.

The theory of the devil from other spiritual philosophies is duality, good and evil in harmony.

Now, how can pursuing desires of the flesh and hedonism advance you spiritually? You are focussing on gratification rather than purification and enlightenment. It is devolving rather than evolving, spiritually.

Why would you want to move backwards?

Why go for balance, when you can go for all good? Isn't the theory that you need 51% positive karma to advance? Why not 50%, perfect balance? Quite clearly it is good you should strive for, not personal gain. Go for 100% rather than 51%.

The Christian philosophy of love thy neighbour is perfect. It is only good, no excuses for evil deeds, and when you do something wrong, feel bad about it, admit it, pray for forgiveness, don't dismiss it as nature.

Humans have consciousness, not pure instinct, we aren't like the lesser animals. Why try and revert to a primitive status, rather than evolve further in to more pure beings?

ArmsMerchant
2009-01-15, 19:54
Vanhalla--sometime, how about expanding on some of the other misunderstood Major Arcana--I am thinking especially about Death and the Hanged Man.

Vanhalla
2009-01-15, 22:04
The theory of the devil from other spiritual philosophies is duality, good and evil in harmony.

Now, how can pursuing desires of the flesh and hedonism advance you spiritually? You are focussing on gratification rather than purification and enlightenment. It is devolving rather than evolving, spiritually.

Why would you want to move backwards?


It is by generating enough strength to overcome temptations through self discipline and redirection of desire that evolutionary progress occurs. Satan is a teacher, if we were never to have eaten from the tree of knowledge, there would be no reason to evolve. There would be no fear, no anger, no hatred, no Death. We would never learn why it is necessary to move beyond such things. By eating the fruit, we become more like God.


Why go for balance, when you can go for all good? Isn't the theory that you need 51% positive karma to advance? Why not 50%, perfect balance? Quite clearly it is good you should strive for, not personal gain. Go for 100% rather than 51%.

The 51% service to others is grade needed to ascend to the positive polarity of 4th density consciousness. The higher distortions, as you approach the octave, is more about understanding and transcending things like good and evil.

The Christian philosophy of love thy neighbour is perfect. It is only good, no excuses for evil deeds, and when you do something wrong, feel bad about it, admit it, pray for forgiveness, don't dismiss it as nature.

Loving thy neighbor is important, but it is also important to understand why it is important.

Humans have consciousness, not pure instinct, we aren't like the lesser animals. Why try and revert to a primitive status, rather than evolve further in to more pure beings?

I believe that all souls evolve to the higher distortions sooner or later, but some need more time and more experience, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Vanhalla
2009-01-15, 22:10
Vanhalla--sometime, how about expanding on some of the other misunderstood Major Arcana--I am thinking especially about Death and the Hanged Man.

I'll probably start contemplating and studying the meaning of Death tonight. I feel I'm going through a Death right now.

Gold n Green
2009-01-16, 04:58
It is by generating enough strength to overcome temptations through self discipline and redirection of desire that evolutionary progress occurs. Satan is a teacher, if we were never to have eaten from the tree of knowledge, there would be no reason to evolve. There would be no fear, no anger, no hatred, no Death. We would never learn why it is necessary to move beyond such things. By eating the fruit, we become more like God.

You are grateful for leaving a life of carefree bliss to the existence we have now? You thank satan? Isn't the purpose of enlightenment gaining peace and calm, a return to the days of innocence?

The 51% service to others is grade needed to ascend to the positive polarity of 4th density consciousness. The higher distortions, as you approach the octave, is more about understanding and transcending things like good and evil.

What about if you only choose to do good to alter your balance in favour of the positive? Then you aren't really helping anyone, you are helping yourself and do not have pure intentions. Bad ju ju if you ask me.

Loving thy neighbor is important, but it is also important to understand why it is important.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

I believe that all souls evolve to the higher distortions sooner or later, but some need more time and more experience, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I believe in Heaven and Hell.

Gold n Green
2009-01-16, 05:06
You are grateful for leaving a life of carefree bliss to the existence we have now? You thank satan? Isn't the purpose of enlightenment gaining peace and calm, a return to the days of innocence?

The 51% service to others is grade needed to ascend to the positive polarity of 4th density consciousness. The higher distortions, as you approach the octave, is more about understanding and transcending things like good and evil.

What about if you only choose to do good to alter your balance in favour of the positive? Then you aren't really helping anyone, you are helping yourself and do not have pure intentions. Bad ju ju if you ask me.

Loving thy neighbor is important, but it is also important to understand why it is important.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

I believe that all souls evolve to the higher distortions sooner or later, but some need more time and more experience, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I believe in Heaven and Hell.

Vanhalla
2009-01-16, 07:54
You are grateful for leaving a life of carefree bliss to the existence we have now? You thank satan? Isn't the purpose of enlightenment gaining peace and calm, a return to the days of innocence?

Enlightenment is the full experienced presence of Intelligent Infinity.

What about if you only choose to do good to alter your balance in favour of the positive? Then you aren't really helping anyone, you are helping yourself and do not have pure intentions. Bad ju ju if you ask me.
If you are serving others in order to manipulate them, you are still helping them in a sense, but at the same time you are limiting their growth by manipulating them towards your own selfish desires. It is possible to be like that but in the end believe it is more important serve them than manipulate them and ascend with a 52% STO. However if you go the other way and end with a 75% STS, read the quote below.

http://www.llresearch.org/speeches/speech_1994_0000.aspx

" Negatively oriented entities need to be 95% intending to be of service to self, seeing other selves as those which shall be manipulated and controlled, gathering their energy for their own use. The negatively oriented entity sees the universe as that place which shall be put in order. Power is that which aids evolution. Those which are more strong and more powerful will dominate those that are less powerful. The positively oriented entity sees all other entities as the Creator and attempts to be of service to them. If he is successful 51% of the time, he is then available for graduation into the fourth density. All of our experiences that we gain here in the third density are for the purpose of making this choice.
The veil of forgetting that exists between our conscious and our subconscious minds aids this process of evolution. Apparently, at an earlier point in the evolutionary process, further toward the center of our galaxy, the beginning Logoi, as they were taking the cosmic mind of the Creator and condensing it into the light of each octave of experience, discovered that in the third density, if entities were continually aware of their total unity with the Creator, they existed in what we would see as a state of complete bliss and unity. There seemed to be very little reason to move from it, very little reason to continue the evolutionary process. Therefore these entities needed to repeat again and again the third density experience.
The veil of forgetting was found to be a very efficient tool to aid the process of evolution. If we can find love in as many experiences as possible in an illusion which appears at times to be quite negative, the decisions and choices we make for that love in serving others carry a great deal more weight in our total beingness than if we make such choices with a complete assuredness that all is indeed One.
So, Ra suggested that at the end of this 75,000-year cycle there is a graduation or a harvest. There are three possibilities for that graduation. If entities are polarized in the positive sense—as I said, to a 51% degree—then they move on to a positively polarized fourth-density planet and form what Ra called a social memory complex. On this planet at this time, since we are not yet of one mind, we have social memory complexes. We do not share the total memory of all of our incarnations and cannot call upon those experiences as a group.
In the fourth density, apparently, this is the means by which we continue our evolution. In the positive and in the negative sense, social memory complexes are formed and move as units along the evolutionary path.
The second possibility I mentioned is the negative polarization, where a 95% success rate is necessary. These two concepts, by the way, service to others and service to self, are where we get our concepts of good and evil.
The third possibility is for those who have not yet made a choice. They have moved back and forth, it seems, doing that which is of service to others, then that which is of service to the self. These entities who have yet to make a choice of polarity will find themselves on another third-density planet where they can repeat the third-density cycle. There’s apparently as much time as is necessary for this choice to be made. There’s no heaven or hell, just another 75,000 years to eat McDonald’s burgers and so forth."

Gold n Green
2009-01-16, 08:02
Yeah, I disagree.

Sorry.

Be bad, think bad, go to Hell.

Rizzo in a box
2009-01-16, 20:28
the devil..

IS A DJ! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhG-vBxkuJk)