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superslacker
2009-01-02, 14:21
Normally I'm not one to pursue anti-Semitic conspiracies because irrational bigotry is the haven of the paranoid delusional, the racially insecure, and the easily manipulated. But I do not place Zion above suspicion, because frankly, no one is.

A thread caught my eye in "News of the World" a few weeks ago, unfortunately titled "Filthy Hook-Nosed Jew Robs Investors of $50 billion", obviously pertaining to the "Ponzi scheme" perpetrated by none other than Bernie Madoff, previously a highly-respected figure in the world of finance. Some of the posts discussed the possibility that this was an Israeli scheme, as the Mossad had previously done similar financial swindling in other countries to fill Israel's coffers.

Of note was the fact that several of the institutions swindled by Madoff were Jewish charities, institutions, and even notable Jewish individuals, and that's what got me thinking--maybe that's how it started. Zion was looking for a way to transfer this money without leaving a trail. People would be rioting in the streets if there was ever definitive proof that Jewish charities were simply going to Israel because that's essentially national theft, so they needed to muddy the waters sufficiently to throw people off. Enter Madoff. He "fools" these Jewish charities and whatnot into investing, then sends the money to Israel--charities with full knowledge but entirely able to claim ignorance if caught. He realizes what potential lies in this and begins taking "investments" from non-Jewish entities; banks, firms, nations, etc., and the flow to Zion begins. Sure, he keeps some--after all, a swindler can't live in poverty without throwing doubt on where the money is, but $50 billion is a lot of money. We're talking GDP for poor countries here. Even if he kept 20% that's still $40 billion for Israel, which is an impressive war chest, and the best part is, inquiries into where the money's gone are probably going to deadend at, "oh, he's a swindler, I bet he spent all that money on luxury items like planes and yachts and homes."

Now, with Israel launching what might be the biggest and most aggressive attack ever against Gaza, the thought struck me that this is very conveniently timed. It occurred to me that there might be a reason why Israel would have to essentially steal money for their war chest as opposed to their usual method of asking for it, and choose now, of all times, to launch the offensive now that their jig is up, so to speak. There are a few possibilities. The two I've come up with:

A) Only Zion knows the extent and purpose of their Gazan assault, meaning perhaps it or another "operation" they have brewing is going to push the limit even for the USA and they need to guarantee they have the funds to operate alone if necessary.

B) Zion knows the USA is in major economic trouble and either will not or can not offer aid to them if necessary.

Either begs the question--what the hell are they doing over there? And especially considering possibility B, do they know something we don't? I mean, things are bad in the US right now. People are losing jobs left and right, consumer confidence is at a record low, trillions disappeared from our GDP and national wealth overnight because of the housing bubble, and that joblessness + housing mismanagement is leaving a LOT of people penniless and homeless. Is Zion predicting a major event? Riots? Civil war? Collapse of the US economy (though that would likely be later because of massive hyperinflation, look for it around 2010-2011)?

Perhaps Zion has heard the death knell of the US, and instead of helping us out, they've decided to bleed us of what they can and take advantage of the turmoil to carry out whatever insidious plot they have.

There was even an article on CNN a few weeks ago about how Jewish leaders were afraid that the revelation of Madoff's scheme--carried out with probably the worst timing ever--was going to reinforce Shylock-esque Jewish stereotypes and stoke the fires of anti-Semitism, and that was before the Gaza offensive. Perhaps they were trying to calm the coming storm? You can bet anti-Semitic fervor is growing in the Middle East and probably here too.

Thoughts?

Ron Smythberg
2009-01-03, 03:47
Normally I'm not one to pursue anti-Semitic conspiracies because irrational bigotry is the haven of the paranoid delusional, the racially insecure, and the easily manipulated. But I do not place Zion above suspicion, because frankly, no one is.

A thread caught my eye in "News of the World" a few weeks ago, unfortunately titled "Filthy Hook-Nosed Jew Robs Investors of $50 billion", obviously pertaining to the "Ponzi scheme" perpetrated by none other than Bernie Madoff, previously a highly-respected figure in the world of finance. Some of the posts discussed the possibility that this was an Israeli scheme, as the Mossad had previously done similar financial swindling in other countries to fill Israel's coffers.

Of note was the fact that several of the institutions swindled by Madoff were Jewish charities, institutions, and even notable Jewish individuals, and that's what got me thinking--maybe that's how it started. Zion was looking for a way to transfer this money without leaving a trail. People would be rioting in the streets if there was ever definitive proof that Jewish charities were simply going to Israel because that's essentially national theft, so they needed to muddy the waters sufficiently to throw people off. Enter Madoff. He "fools" these Jewish charities and whatnot into investing, then sends the money to Israel--charities with full knowledge but entirely able to claim ignorance if caught. He realizes what potential lies in this and begins taking "investments" from non-Jewish entities; banks, firms, nations, etc., and the flow to Zion begins. Sure, he keeps some--after all, a swindler can't live in poverty without throwing doubt on where the money is, but $50 billion is a lot of money. We're talking GDP for poor countries here. Even if he kept 20% that's still $40 billion for Israel, which is an impressive war chest, and the best part is, inquiries into where the money's gone are probably going to deadend at, "oh, he's a swindler, I bet he spent all that money on luxury items like planes and yachts and homes."

Now, with Israel launching what might be the biggest and most aggressive attack ever against Gaza, the thought struck me that this is very conveniently timed. It occurred to me that there might be a reason why Israel would have to essentially steal money for their war chest as opposed to their usual method of asking for it, and choose now, of all times, to launch the offensive now that their jig is up, so to speak. There are a few possibilities. The two I've come up with:

A) Only Zion knows the extent and purpose of their Gazan assault, meaning perhaps it or another "operation" they have brewing is going to push the limit even for the USA and they need to guarantee they have the funds to operate alone if necessary.

B) Zion knows the USA is in major economic trouble and either will not or can not offer aid to them if necessary.

Either begs the question--what the hell are they doing over there? And especially considering possibility B, do they know something we don't? I mean, things are bad in the US right now. People are losing jobs left and right, consumer confidence is at a record low, trillions disappeared from our GDP and national wealth overnight because of the housing bubble, and that joblessness + housing mismanagement is leaving a LOT of people penniless and homeless. Is Zion predicting a major event? Riots? Civil war? Collapse of the US economy (though that would likely be later because of massive hyperinflation, look for it around 2010-2011)?

Perhaps Zion has heard the death knell of the US, and instead of helping us out, they've decided to bleed us of what they can and take advantage of the turmoil to carry out whatever insidious plot they have.

There was even an article on CNN a few weeks ago about how Jewish leaders were afraid that the revelation of Madoff's scheme--carried out with probably the worst timing ever--was going to reinforce Shylock-esque Jewish stereotypes and stoke the fires of anti-Semitism, and that was before the Gaza offensive. Perhaps they were trying to calm the coming storm? You can bet anti-Semitic fervor is growing in the Middle East and probably here too.

Thoughts?

Sounds to me like your a closet anti-semite finally coming out. I would advise you get an education before you start spewing more defamatory filth.

no, NO, NO! the economy is not "collapsing". Things look better then ever with Obama as the new man in charge.

The fact about Madoff was that it was an isolated incident with no connection to Israel. You are making complete allegations with no kind of proof or evidence to back it up. Israel is a prosperous and thriving nation, and they can only thank themselves for their hard work.

Yes it is sad that Israel was forced to retaliate against being bombarded by rockets.

What Israel did in protecting herself was completely justified. Word has even come out that Israel is agreeing to allow in aid, something even myself didn't think was appropriate right now.

If Hamas refuses to accept peace as the best solution, then there will be consequences.

I agree that it is sad for both sides that people are dying. But you must understand that the people in gaza are practically hell bent on destroying Israel. They do not respect Israel's right to exist.

Remember that the Israeli's are merely acting out of self defence, something me, or you would do if you were attacked. How many Israeli's must die, before it's "ok" to defend your nation?

All in all you sound just like the crazy conspiracy idiots you derride in your first paragraph. I would recommend you take a step back and reevaluate your life before you become just another conspiracy obsessed, nazi-scumbag.

Megalodon
2009-01-03, 05:25
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Lb13
2009-01-03, 10:15
Sounds to me like your a closet anti-semite finally coming out. I would advise you get an education before you start spewing more defamatory filth.

who cares if he doesn't like jews?



no, NO, NO! the economy is not "collapsing". Things look better then ever with Obama as the new man in charge.

"believe nothing you hear and half of what you see" ever heard of that? how about "looks are deceiving?



The fact about Madoff was that it was an isolated incident with no connection to Israel. You are making complete allegations with no kind of proof or evidence to back it up. Israel is a prosperous and thriving nation, and they can only thank themselves for their hard work.


http://undertheradarmedia.wordpress.com/2008/12/24/jewish-reporter-for-forbes-admits-censoring-himself-about-jewish-angle-of-maddof-scandal/

jews look out for eachother.



Yes it is sad that Israel was forced to retaliate against being bombarded by rockets.


but were they forced? were they really?




Remember that the Israeli's are merely acting out of self defence, something me, or you would do if you were attacked. How many Israeli's must die, before it's "ok" to defend your nation?

are they really defending themselves?



All in all you sound just like the crazy conspiracy idiots you derride in your first paragraph. I would recommend you take a step back and reevaluate your life before you become just another conspiracy obsessed, nazi-scumbag.

why are you bashing this guy for having a different point of view than you?

Ron Smythberg
2009-01-03, 19:01
who cares if he doesn't like jews?




"believe nothing you hear and half of what you see" ever heard of that? how about "looks are deceiving?




http://undertheradarmedia.wordpress.com/2008/12/24/jewish-reporter-for-forbes-admits-censoring-himself-about-jewish-angle-of-maddof-scandal/

jews look out for eachother.




but were they forced? were they really?





are they really defending themselves?




why are you bashing this guy for having a different point of view than you?

-I won't dignify your first comment with a response.

-I am not just talking about "looks". If you look at the markets, everything is shooting up because of Obama. Obama has ingenious plans to reinvigorate the country with Public Works projects. Thing are getting better.

-Oh so you found a link about some random self hating Jew who second guessed the idea of insulting his creed, what a ton of evidence.no NO NO! there is absolutely no evidence of Madoff being a part of some Jewish Conspiracy.

-Was America forced to retaliate after 911? No. Obviously no one forced them. But it was the right thing to do and absolutely necessary. The exact same situation is going on in Israel.

-Yes they are defending themselves. They are going directly to the root of the problem and fixing it. You have to understand that these people are dedicated to destroying Israel. Most of them would also wish to see the same of America, as well, but due to geographical restrictions they are forced to hit their closest target.

The fact is that Israel is a key ally to the west, the arabs hate the west so they hit Israel by proxy.

-I wasn't bashing him. I was merely warning him of what he would become if he keeps up with these moronic ideas.

Megalodon
2009-01-04, 00:26
-I am not just talking about "looks". If you look at the markets, everything is shooting up because of Obama. Obama has ingenious plans to reinvigorate the country with Public Works projects. Thing are getting better.



hahahahaha

It's funny because the stock markets are manipulated and your statement becomes a total contradiction on itself.

Chimro
2009-01-04, 03:13
no, NO, NO! the economy is not "collapsing". Things look better then ever with Obama as the new man in charge.

Aside from the complete stupidity of your Jewish propaganda, you don't even appear to know the difference between "then" and "than".

Lb13
2009-01-04, 13:58
Ron Smythberg -I won't dignify your first comment with a response.


Don't belittle my valid p.o.v's or arguments.

-I am not just talking about "looks". If you look at the markets, everything is shooting up because of Obama. Obama has ingenious plans to reinvigorate the country with Public Works projects. Thing are getting better.

Can you define the public works projects that you say he plans and how they will fix things?

Let me get this strait, to you every thing "shooting up" and raising the cost of living translates to getting better?

So what exactly is B.O going to do for all the people losing their homes? The root problem of the economy is that, unless they pay off everyone's mortgage loans NOTHING will get better.

BO wants to further put us in dept and devaluate the dollar by passing a second stimulus plan. If at first you don't succeed the only logical answer is to try the same failed solution again right?


[/I]-Was America forced to retaliate after 911? No. Obviously no one forced them. But it was the right thing to do and absolutely necessary. The exact same situation is going on in Israel.

Do you really think invading two countries and having an occupation in both, (one of which had no ties to osama bin laden) for the works of a few men is the right thing to do?

-Yes they are defending themselves. They are going directly to the root of the problem and [B]fixing it. You have to understand that these people are dedicated to destroying Israel. Most of them would also wish to see the same of America, as well, but due to geographical restrictions they are forced to hit their closest target.


Fixing it? or making it worse? The only reason they hate us is because we fuck with them all the time. Why cant we mind our own?


The fact is that Israel is a key ally to the west, the arabs hate the west so they hit Israel by proxy.

Care to elaborate on the reasons they are key allies to us?

-I wasn't bashing him. I was merely warning him of what he would become if he keeps up with these moronic ideas.

You are no one to insult someone due to their beliefs/ideas.