For some reason smoking out of a light bulb doesn't seem that safe. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I'm pretty sure it's not the cleanest inside, chemically. That and I have a fear of the mercury inside of mercury bulbs and it transfers to other bulbs.

Has anyone made a good vaporizer themselves? Do you have instructions? Good materials to use, etc?

It's for weed (oh noes), if that makes a difference. I heard you can get an oil burner ie:

http://www.rocknrobinsenchantedcauldron.com/images/SWORD%20OIL%20BURNER.jpg

put weed instead of oil and have it vaporize the THC so you can inhale it. Would that work? Would it be safe?

Thanks.

I'm pretty sure i saw something on youtube about how to make a lightbulb vape, but the person washed the inside with some sort of liquid that may have eroded the chemicals, idk....

go to like.....grasscity.com or something. They'd probably know.

The portable one i have only costs $50 though. I know, its still cash you have to hand over, but compared to most vaporizers, its pretty cheap. (link) (http://www.vaporgenie.com/)

What does the ceramic piece look like? If we can figure out how to make one of those then we're golden. As far as material, I'd probably carve it from soapstone or oak. Not as good as ceramic, but hey, almost as good and it's free.

I plan on getting a real box n whip vape soon through www.gorillaglass.com. They sell wholesale headshop shit from pipes to vapes to lighters to whatever, and it's all really fucking cheap [4 layer grinder- $9]. The catch is that you have to spend more than $150 and order more than 12 items, but since I'm in highschool, selling bubblers and spoons is quite a lucrative business, as most kids can only get them from other kids. So, my idea is to buy about $100 worth of stuff that I want, along with $100 worth of shit to sell, sell it at 200%-300% mark up, and get my shit for free. I would come out with one of those nice grinders, a box/whip digital vape, a pocket scale accurate to .01g, and a double bubbler for when the vape is infeasible to use.

If you are in college where selling that stuff at those prices is impossible, and you don't mind paying the prices on that site, find a bunch of friends who smoke and get them to find shit they want, and build up an order. It's tough to nail down a time frame for that sort of shit, but when you're getting a 6-7" sherlock bubbler for $20, you can't be too picky.

Vaporizers are quite the DIY challenge, and I wish you luck if you decide to take on the project. I took apart an iron once in a half assed attempt at a vape, got confused, and left. My dad found it later, and of course it was for making a plug in hand warmer for my car when it's cold in the morning. I have an excellent mind for on-the-spot excuses that will get me off the hook.

Most of the time.


for inspiration-
http://www.instructables.com/id/Whip-Convection-Vaporizer/
https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/index.php?showtopic=19947

I'm pretty sure i saw something on youtube about how to make a lightbulb vape, but the person washed the inside with some sort of liquid that may have eroded the chemicals, idk....

go to like.....grasscity.com or something. They'd probably know.

The portable one i have only costs $50 though. I know, its still cash you have to hand over, but compared to most vaporizers, its pretty cheap. (link) (http://www.vaporgenie.com/)

It seems pretty easy, all they did was make an attachment that basically puts a piece of metal over your weed, no?

So if I took a regular pipe, put a piece of metal over it, and heated that, I could make my own budget vapour genie?

I'm guessing they have a better system than that.

QUESTION: For the vaporizer to work, do I need any air? Because if I don't, then I can make a piece of metal to fit perfectly into my pipe, put in my weed, heat the metal with a flame, have it heat the weed and release THC, and then when I inhale, I will get THC, no?

What does the ceramic piece look like? If we can figure out how to make one of those then we're golden. As far as material, I'd probably carve it from soapstone or oak. Not as good as ceramic, but hey, almost as good and it's free.

I plan on getting a real box n whip vape soon through www.gorillaglass.com. They sell wholesale headshop shit from pipes to vapes to lighters to whatever, and it's all really fucking cheap [4 layer grinder- $9]. The catch is that you have to spend more than $150 and order more than 12 items, but since I'm in highschool, selling bubblers and spoons is quite a lucrative business, as most kids can only get them from other kids. So, my idea is to buy about $100 worth of stuff that I want, along with $100 worth of shit to sell, sell it at 200%-300% mark up, and get my shit for free. I would come out with one of those nice grinders, a box/whip digital vape, a pocket scale accurate to .01g, and a double bubbler for when the vape is infeasible to use.

If you are in college where selling that stuff at those prices is impossible, and you don't mind paying the prices on that site, find a bunch of friends who smoke and get them to find shit they want, and build up an order. It's tough to nail down a time frame for that sort of shit, but when you're getting a 6-7" sherlock bubbler for $20, you can't be too picky.

Vaporizers are quite the DIY challenge, and I wish you luck if you decide to take on the project. I took apart an iron once in a half assed attempt at a vape, got confused, and left. My dad found it later, and of course it was for making a plug in hand warmer for my car when it's cold in the morning. I have an excellent mind for on-the-spot excuses that will get me off the hook.

Most of the time.


for inspiration-
http://www.instructables.com/id/Whip-Convection-Vaporizer/
https://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners.com/index.php?showtopic=19947

holy shit that site is good.
I mean, i guess i trust they're legit, but the site design doesn't inspire much confidence...

Yeah, the only reason I trust it is because of the order requirements and such. Plus they mention that they are glass blowers, so they aren't quite web designers and probably get enough business with what the have already.

It makes sense too, like SOMEONE has to supply headshops, so it's not like this site has no purpose. And the mark up seems about right for what stores pay to what you pay.


OP- You do need a source of air, there has to be a hole on the other side somewhere. If you put your finger on the end of the straw and inhale through the other end, you can't fill your lungs with air. The best vapes are convection, where hot air is pulled through the nugs to boil the THC. The way that the vaporgenie works is by using that ceramic [not metal] piece to mix ambient air with the lighter heat, which somehow is done in a ratio that creates air in the "sweet spot" temperature of 225-375°F.

Metal on top of your bowl will NOT work without a hole for air to come in to. if you do some trials you might be able to figure out how to deflect some of the heat with some sort of metal shield and get the sweet spot temperature.

Crystal antlers- What is the ceramic piece shaped like? can you tell what the internal structure is from the outside? If you could post some close up pics that'd be incredibly helpful.

Yeah, the only reason I trust it is because of the order requirements and such. Plus they mention that they are glass blowers, so they aren't quite web designers and probably get enough business with what the have already.

It makes sense too, like SOMEONE has to supply headshops, so it's not like this site has no purpose. And the mark up seems about right for what stores pay to what you pay.


OP- You do need a source of air, there has to be a hole on the other side somewhere. If you put your finger on the end of the straw and inhale through the other end, you can't fill your lungs with air. The best vapes are convection, where hot air is pulled through the nugs to boil the THC. The way that the vaporgenie works is by using that ceramic [not metal] piece to mix ambient air with the lighter heat, which somehow is done in a ratio that creates air in the "sweet spot" temperature of 225-375°F.

Metal on top of your bowl will NOT work without a hole for air to come in to. if you do some trials you might be able to figure out how to deflect some of the heat with some sort of metal shield and get the sweet spot temperature.

Crystal antlers- What is the ceramic piece shaped like? can you tell what the internal structure is from the outside? If you could post some close up pics that'd be incredibly helpful.

Damn. I don't really have time to try and make my own then. 50 bucks seems more than reasonable for a vapour genie, but I don't want to have it delivered. I do still live with my parents and while 99.9% of the time they won't check my mail, there's a chance they could get confused and think its theirs or simply open it innocently, and then I have to explain that I do smoke pot and this is the safest way. I'll probably get it ordered to my buddies place within the next week or two.

Do you recommend it? Is it as good as a regular vape? All the others I've seen were complex up the ass, this seems a little too simple, if you know what I mean.

But I'll take you word for it that it's a quality vape.

Crystal antlers- What is the ceramic piece shaped like? can you tell what the internal structure is from the outside? If you could post some close up pics that'd be incredibly helpful.

I think what you're asking is what does the ceramic filter look like? well, its like a carbon-colored web resembling.....well.....a porous filter. Its sort of rough, and its about an inch thick I'm guessing. I don't have the equipment to takes photos right now, but i would if i did. You might be able to find them online somewhere though.

Damn. I don't really have time to try and make my own then. 50 bucks seems more than reasonable for a vapour genie, but I don't want to have it delivered. I do still live with my parents and while 99.9% of the time they won't check my mail, there's a chance they could get confused and think its theirs or simply open it innocently, and then I have to explain that I do smoke pot and this is the safest way. I'll probably get it ordered to my buddies place within the next week or two.

Do you recommend it? Is it as good as a regular vape? All the others I've seen were complex up the ass, this seems a little too simple, if you know what I mean.

But I'll take you word for it that it's a quality vape.

Ok, so like, i bought mine a a head shop, but it was overpriced.....by like, $20.....but i really wanted something i could smoke safely in my dorm with, lol, and was really interested in the health benefits, so i bought it.

I've never used an electronic vape before, so i can't compare, but just know that there is in fact a learning curve to using the vapor genie. The flame's position and the speed with which you inhale are both important. I'll post what you need to do to get the most out of it so you can guage if you want to invest in it or not:

First, you'll want a grinder (those plastic ones are fine) or at least break it up pretty well with a knife or something. Then you pack it, don't compact it (oh shit, that rhymes heelll yes) lol, then screw the top portion on. I find its really helpful to tilt the pipe downwards. its possible to make it completely perpendicular to the ground, since *gasp- you can shake it as much as you want and your weed won't go anywhere (makes it nice for portability) But i don't know how practical that is, just throwing it out there. You just need to get the flame barely breaching the cavity of the top piece. It NEVER touches the bottom, or goes even moderately deep into the filter. That's what i had to learn. The point is you have to mix the air with the heat of the fire. Breathing slowly causes the heat to rise. In my experience, you can never breathe slow enough to burn it.....maybe......idk....I know i did burn the bud i had in there my first couple of times (this makes smoking it with people who haven't used it a bit troublesome, but if they're competent people, just showing them in person will be enough, or you could just hold the lighter- its what i do for my girlfriend lol) I think i burned it because the flame was going deep into the top cavity.

Just to give you a mental image of what I'm talking about...ugh, wish i could post photos....the piece you screw on has a hole in it obviously, but its pretty deep, and the ceramic filter rests about an inch (and a half?) into it.

Anyways, inhale slowly, make sure the flame doesn't go all the way into the cavity, you should really just be able to suck the very edge of the flame into it with your breath, forming a "hill" on it. Its not exactly hard.....but it might take a few sessions before you're good.

Anyways, i think its a good vape. The first hit may not produce much because you're just beginning to heat it up, but you'll feel awsome when you inhale a loong time, breathe out what looks like smoke, and realize you're not coughing. I try to keep it in my lungs for a long time because of that. There's no real smell....hasn't set off any fire alarms yet. Highly efficient. I can get preeeeetty baked off of one packing....which isn't even that much. maybe like, 1/4th of a gram? i actually have no idea.....

i didnt read all of the replies, but you're moving a step in the wrong direction if you go from using a gutted light bulb to something involving metal. A non-frosted 100w incandescent light bulb with the electronic parts removed is as clean and pure as you're gonna get. the chemicals you are fretting about are in the bulb under some pressure to help the filament light evenly and stuff. as soon as you break the seal, all those gases escape and you're fine.

i'd go with wood before moving to metal even. fumes from heated metals are sketchy and not fully understood. the big scary chemicals ur worrying about in the light bulb are long gone.

when i smoked pot more regularly i had a gutted lightbulb that i'd attached the top part of a 20 oz. soda bottle to, and epoxied 2 brass tubes into the cap, which then screwed on. it was terrific to use, with no hint of chemicals at all. if you did it right, the vapor was so thick it was like you were eating cotton candy flavored like weed :D


lightbulb is good and safe. stick with it. dont use metal.


PS: ya that site is nuts. if anyone decides to order from it be sure to post back about how everything goes and if they scam you at all etc.

I was thinking a laser type vaporization device would be cool.

There is a plexiglass tube filled with fluid. Within that tube is a tube of smaller diameter. At the top of it, there is a high powered green or blue burning laser. The fluid serves for both aesthetics and to diffuse the ultra-bright laser beam.

At the bottom, there is a glass bowl with a focusing lens and a inhalation tube running out of it.


One thing Im not sure of is if the laser would outright light the herb on fire, or just heat it to the point of off-gassing. That may depend on the environment within the tube.

i read a little bit of each reply so idk if anyone else said it already but the white mercury in the lightbulb is jus a powder, if u put anything in there an swirl it around it will come out, u can use water but then u gotta wait till it dries, i use salt