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Ford Prefect
2009-01-05, 02:35
Little back story: recently graduated from high school, subsequently moved to a new country on the opposite side of the world and as of about a month ago am currently living with a couple girls in a nice little flat near the center of town.
Problem is, I'm really starting to dig one of them. I thought she was beautiful when I first moved in, but now I'm pretty sure I full out have a thing for her. She's smart, funny, gorgeous and completely unlike any of the girls I've met back home.
My other flatmate works nights so often it's just me and this girl home alone. She's got a couple years on me, is extremely fashionable and I have all reason to believe she is entirely out of my league, but nevertheless we get on great and she's pretty flirty (especially when drink).
If it was any other situation I would have tried to kiss her a long time ago. I'm not shy around girls and neither am I completely oblivious. We watch movies together, semi-cuddle and she always talks about how the local guys are horrible and she wishes she could meet someone nice.
I don't know what to do totse! I DON'T want to fuck this up. It isn't exactly easy to find a nice cheap flat around here, especially not one that comes with two beautiful woman that are fun as hell to go drinking with.
Do I try my luck and hope she goes along with it and risk it being super awkward to the point where it might be best to find a new place or do I try my best to forget about it and keep the whole situation as platonic as possible?
If I wasn't fucking living with her...
-F☺rd
notamuppet
2009-01-05, 02:38
There's no such thing as leagues, get that kind of thinking out of your head
Make a move
Numberjumbo
2009-01-05, 02:50
If you fuck it up, you're going to have to live with it...
I would say leave it alone. Not because it would make it awkward between you and her, but because of consequences it could have with your other flatmate. If something does happen, it could make things bad between you and her. If she ends up leaving, that means more rent you have to pay.
psycho_8b
2009-01-05, 03:52
I think what you need is something solid, mate.
What I mean is you need either a yes or a no. Either one will get you out of this.
Currently you're in the fog...You don't know if she feels the same, if she doesn't feel the same, if she wants a fuck buddy or she just wants to string you along a bit. You need to know where you stand.
For example, if you asked her how she would feel about going on a date and seeing how things went afterwards and she said no, you say "No worries. Just wondering. That's cool." You could just get over it, get on with it and move along. You probably wouldn't have this thing for her anymore and you'd probably start seeing things about her that you don't like that weren't there before. Happened to me many times.
Otherwise she says yes, you guys try it out and see what happens. If it goes tits-up just say "Whatever. It was worth a shot. At least we now know how things are and hey, we had some pretty good times in the sack, no?!"
I understand you don't want to make things awkward between you and your flat mates but it doesn't have to be awkward. Don't let it be awkward. Just be indiffrent to any negative outcomes and let it roll off your back. Be cool and forget about it. I reckon they'd follow suit, mate.
Fanglekai
2009-01-05, 04:26
I think what you need is something solid, mate.
What I mean is you need either a yes or a no. Either one will get you out of this.
Currently you're in the fog...You don't know if she feels the same, if she doesn't feel the same, if she wants a fuck buddy or she just wants to string you along a bit. You need to know where you stand.
For example, if you asked her how she would feel about going on a date and seeing how things went afterwards and she said no, you say "No worries. Just wondering. That's cool." You could just get over it, get on with it and move along. You probably wouldn't have this thing for her anymore and you'd probably start seeing things about her that you don't like that weren't there before. Happened to me many times.
Otherwise she says yes, you guys try it out and see what happens. If it goes tits-up just say "Whatever. It was worth a shot. At least we now know how things are and hey, we had some pretty good times in the sack, no?!"
I understand you don't want to make things awkward between you and your flat mates but it doesn't have to be awkward. Don't let it be awkward. Just be indiffrent to any negative outcomes and let it roll off your back. Be cool and forget about it. I reckon they'd follow suit, mate.
This. I was going to type a similar response but this one is what I wanted to say anyway so just do this. This is the same thing I try to do anytime I'm interested in a girl: take a chance and go for it.
The only shitty thing would be if you started dating and it ended badly after a while. If it was terrible, you could just move out.
So when you're alone with her ask if she wants to go on a date and you'll have your answer. You can let it go or maybe something will happen. Try your luck and see.
Ford Prefect
2009-01-05, 04:30
There's no such thing as leagues, get that kind of thinking out of your head
Make a move
I've never let something like leagues bother me before, not sure why I would now.
Thanks.
If you fuck it up, you're going to have to live with it...
Well aware of that mate. Otherwise I would have done something already.
I would say leave it alone. Not because it would make it awkward between you and her, but because of consequences it could have with your other flatmate. If something does happen, it could make things bad between you and her. If she ends up leaving, that means more rent you have to pay.
Naw, I'm not worried about her. She's remarkable chill, put most of these fucking thoughts in my head in the first place, and is moving into student housing in a couple weeks anyways. In fact, if things go south I might just blame it all on her. ;)
I think what you need is something solid, mate.
What I mean is you need either a yes or a no. Either one will get you out of this.
Currently you're in the fog...You don't know if she feels the same, if she doesn't feel the same, if she wants a fuck buddy or she just wants to string you along a bit. You need to know where you stand.
For example, if you asked her how she would feel about going on a date and seeing how things went afterwards and she said no, you say "No worries. Just wondering. That's cool." You could just get over it, get on with it and move along. You probably wouldn't have this thing for her anymore and you'd probably start seeing things about her that you don't like that weren't there before. Happened to me many times.
Otherwise she says yes, you guys try it out and see what happens. If it goes tits-up just say "Whatever. It was worth a shot. At least we now know how things are and hey, we had some pretty good times in the sack, no?!"
I understand you don't want to make things awkward between you and your flat mates but it doesn't have to be awkward. Don't let it be awkward. Just be indiffrent to any negative outcomes and let it roll off your back. Be cool and forget about it. I reckon they'd follow suit, mate.
Fucking spot on. I feel like I'm in middle school, all this tiptoeing around. I usually just go for it, I'm not terribly afraid of rejection, but I've never been in a situation like this one. Definitely need to know where I stand. Ha, whats the worst that could happen? Homelessness isn't so bad. :)
Follow up question Totse:
How should I pursue this? We watch a movie nearly every night. Should I just lean over and surprise her with a kiss? Should I wait till we're shitfaced? Should I actually take her out?
Thanks all.
-F☺rd
Fanglekai
2009-01-05, 04:36
Do not do anything while drunk. You want to know for certain how she feels, so be sober.
Honestly, I'd just ask her out. That way there's no awkward moment of you trying to kiss her randomly. Going on an actual date would show you're somewhat serious and not one of the losers she talks about.
I've never let something like leagues bother me before, not sure why I would now.
Thanks.
Well aware of that mate. Otherwise I would have done something already.
Naw, I'm not worried about her. She's remarkable chill, put most of these fucking thoughts in my head in the first place, and is moving into student housing in a couple weeks anyways. In fact, if things go south I might just blame it all on her. ;)
Fucking spot on. I feel like I'm in middle school, all this tiptoeing around. I usually just go for it, I'm not terribly afraid of rejection, but I've never been in a situation like this one. Definitely need to know where I stand. Ha, whats the worst that could happen? Homelessness isn't so bad. :)
Follow up question Totse:
How should I pursue this? We watch a movie nearly every night. Should I just lean over and surprise her with a kiss? Should I wait till we're shitfaced? Should I actually take her out?
Thanks all.
-F☺rd
leave the shitfacing alone.. she might not genuinely like you but may go for you while shitfaced, and then when she comes to it'll be strange
take her out to dinner, or just hold her while you're watching a movie.. it's not that hard to kiss someone
Rykoshet
2009-01-05, 04:47
The fact that you're living with her gives you an edge, don't think otherwise. Also, I like your balls. You're probably the only thread starter in S&A that comes here AFTER trying. Kudos.
Make sure you don't get stuck in the friend zone. You know what that means. Flirt. Tease. Show dominance. I'm tempted to say blow off one of your dates to "go out with some boys". It's a dick move, perhaps too dick, but there's a good chance she'd be waiting for you naked when you came back.
If that's too much of a gamble, then just keep up the flirting and teasing. Mention other girls. It's hard to be a dick when you're so close, but think back to all the girls who cried on your should about Ricky and Bobby who cheated on them, yet went back to those jerks the very same night. You can still be a sweet and caring boyfriend if you're an alpha male. It's easy to get stuck in the friend or worse, the brother zone.
That said, calling her "your little sister" works wonders, especially on older girls. And especially followed by an ass grab (optional).
Good luck, I hope to hear a tale of success.
^^^^To the guy who said "take her out to dinner". Epic fucking fail bro. Give up at women.
Cant Quite Tell
2009-01-05, 04:55
The fact that you're living with her gives you an edge, don't think otherwise. Also, I like your balls. You're probably the only thread starter in S&A that comes here AFTER trying. Kudos.
Make sure you don't get stuck in the friend zone. You know what that means. Flirt. Tease. Show dominance. I'm tempted to say blow off one of your dates to "go out with some boys". It's a dick move, perhaps too dick, but there's a good chance she'd be waiting for you naked when you came back.
If that's too much of a gamble, then just keep up the flirting and teasing. Mention other girls. It's hard to be a dick when you're so close, but think back to all the girls who cried on your should about Ricky and Bobby who cheated on them, yet went back to those jerks the very same night. You can still be a sweet and caring boyfriend if you're an alpha male. It's easy to get stuck in the friend or worse, the brother zone.
That said, calling her "your little sister" works wonders, especially on older girls. And especially followed by an ass grab (optional).
Good luck, I hope to hear a tale of success.
^^^^To the guy who said "take her out to dinner". Epic fucking fail bro. Give up at women.
Didn't you "leave"? Don't disappoint me like that.
Fanglekai
2009-01-05, 05:01
Make sure you don't get stuck in the friend zone. You know what that means. Flirt. Tease. Show dominance. I'm tempted to say blow off one of your dates to "go out with some boys". It's a dick move, perhaps too dick, but there's a good chance she'd be waiting for you naked when you came back.
If that's too much of a gamble, then just keep up the flirting and teasing. Mention other girls. It's hard to be a dick when you're so close, but think back to all the girls who cried on your should about Ricky and Bobby who cheated on them, yet went back to those jerks the very same night. You can still be a sweet and caring boyfriend if you're an alpha male. It's easy to get stuck in the friend or worse, the brother zone.
That said, calling her "your little sister" works wonders, especially on older girls. And especially followed by an ass grab (optional).
Good luck, I hope to hear a tale of success.
^^^^To the guy who said "take her out to dinner". Epic fucking fail bro. Give up at women.
I thought you left totse? :confused:
Also, your advice is terrible. He can't blow her off to hang with his boys when he hasn't even gone on a date with her yet, now can he? Why would you set up a first date with a girl then blow her off? That's pointless, immature bullshit, and it's incredibly stupid because they live together. Flirting and teasing is great, and he's already doing that if we're to believe his posts.
If you can only get women by playing these stupid games, then you fail because you're only fucking trashy, insecure bitches. But as you've already admitted on numerous occassions throughout your time on totse, Rykoshet, you don't do relationships. I don't see the point of fucking around with a flatmate. That's great for the easy girl you picked up at the bar, but it won't work if you want a relationship with the girl, which, I would imagine, is what you'd want if you were going to start something with a girl with whom you live and with whom you plan on continuing to live for quite some time.
Don't play stupid games, just take her on a date.
Ford Prefect
2009-01-05, 05:12
The fact that you're living with her gives you an edge, don't think otherwise. Also, I like your balls. You're probably the only thread starter in S&A that comes here AFTER trying. Kudos.
Make sure you don't get stuck in the friend zone. You know what that means. Flirt. Tease. Show dominance. I'm tempted to say blow off one of your dates to "go out with some boys". It's a dick move, perhaps too dick, but there's a good chance she'd be waiting for you naked when you came back.
If that's too much of a gamble, then just keep up the flirting and teasing. Mention other girls. It's hard to be a dick when you're so close, but think back to all the girls who cried on your should about Ricky and Bobby who cheated on them, yet went back to those jerks the very same night. You can still be a sweet and caring boyfriend if you're an alpha male. It's easy to get stuck in the friend or worse, the brother zone.
That said, calling her "your little sister" works wonders, especially on older girls. And especially followed by an ass grab (optional).
Good luck, I hope to hear a tale of success.
^^^^To the guy who said "take her out to dinner". Epic fucking fail bro. Give up at women.
Top advice man. Thanks.
I'm pretty fucking sure I haven't bee friendzoned. Infact, it'd be not a little fucked if I was. I've been ruthless this past month (in a good way). Had to make sure I wasn't just a friend if I came around and decided I actually wanted to go for it. She's fucking funny when she tries to tease back. It's cute.
Anyways, will report back when I've got a story. Thanks all.
-F☺rd
Rykoshet
2009-01-05, 05:20
I did leave. I have a lot of free time in between applying for my work visa and sitting here with my dick in my hand. So I'm browsing the web.
And my advice was great. Tell her he'd love to watch "the pianist" or whatever with her, and as she gets ready to settle down, he tells her he's running out with the boys.
It seems like a terrible thing to do, but it works. Well, it might. I said that would be an extreme and depend on the girl. It's his judgement.
If he keeps up playful teasing, he's gonna end up a funky friend. Not a total ditz, but she'd have to be pretty fucking tanked to fuck him. He doesn't want that. He wants a relationship, sure, but he's not going to qualify as a candidate if he gets disqualified for being a pussy first, will he? She's not a lesbian, she wants a man.
I will say this time and time again. Every woman is built the same. Over time these similarities may get smaller as she begins her intellectual, spiritual, and emotional self-actualization, but she's still looking for the best possible contender to be her mate. And you have to revert to your caveman ways and tell her "ME TARZAN, YOU JANE, YOU COOK STEAK".
Sad, a little sexist, and 100% effective.
He LIVES with her. She sees him shit, shower, shave, and make oatmeal in the morning. Her guard is down because she sees him "oh, that's just Bob, he lives with us". Very similar to gay Bob, the one that will be her BFF till the day she dies. He needs to hit her with an uppercut, sweep her off her feet, and show her that his genes are best suited to conceive and protect her children, not just to be a live in nanny.
You have to view every relationship the same way, whether you're going for a one-night stand or a marriage. Why? To use a totally bullshit analogy: It's like water. Sometimes it's steam, sometimes liquid, and sometimes ice. But it's still water. Same thing with women. Sometimes they seem like marriage material and sometimes like skanks. But they still want the same thing deep down.
Rykoshet
2009-01-05, 05:31
Top advice man. Thanks.
I'm pretty fucking sure I haven't bee friendzoned. Infact, it'd be not a little fucked if I was. I've been ruthless this past month (in a good way). Had to make sure I wasn't just a friend if I came around and decided I actually wanted to go for it.
She's fucking funny when she teases back. It's cute.
Anyways, will report back when I've got a story. Thanks for the advice all (obviously always welcome to more).
Reminds me why I post on totse. :)
-F☺rd
Sorry, my last post was kind of ranting. You seem to know what you're doing, you just wanted some reassuring. Because you live with her, she sees your natural good side (I hope you have one). So when you're ruthless it's not as bad as with strangers.
I had (and still do) have a problem of being hated by strangers when I come on too masculine. The girls who do know me though love it because they know deep down (when they see me naturally) I'm not that much of a dick.
You can still go overboard, but it's actually good to be more assertive with a girl who sees you everyday. It's also nice (for both of you) to have some sensitive moments so she can see you're multidimensional. Maybe bake her cookies (so she catches you pulling them out of the oven just as she's coming in) one day. It's a great way to show off you're not a dick.
Keep her guessing is what I'm trying to say. Sugar and spice together go so well. She doesn't know where you're coming from until one day BAM you spin her around and give her a passionate kiss that says "fuck me now". Best after 2 glasses of whatever. Not too much, not too little, just right to be in the mood and take chances, without ever having buyer's remorse come up.
Also, don't drag this out. Give it 3 days tops to make your move. You want to escalate quickly kinesthetically and emotionally. If you wait too long to kiss her, it fucks things up. If you wait too long to fuck her after you kiss her, she starts to drag it out more and more. Don't get lost in the sex, it's easy to burn out a relationship before it even starts that way. Kiss her when the situation can lead to sex (giving her time to think is never a good idea) then it's all downhill from there. You've done it, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
GOOD LUCK. DON'T THINK. JUST DO IT.
Well, plan ahead, but once you've put the plan in motion just go with it.
Cant Quite Tell
2009-01-05, 07:20
Sorry, my last post was kind of ranting. You seem to know what you're doing, you just wanted some reassuring. Because you live with her, she sees your natural good side (I hope you have one). So when you're ruthless it's not as bad as with strangers.
I had (and still do) have a problem of being hated by strangers when I come on too masculine. The girls who do know me though love it because they know deep down (when they see me naturally) I'm not that much of a dick.
You can still go overboard, but it's actually good to be more assertive with a girl who sees you everyday. It's also nice (for both of you) to have some sensitive moments so she can see you're multidimensional. Maybe bake her cookies (so she catches you pulling them out of the oven just as she's coming in) one day. It's a great way to show off you're not a dick.
Keep her guessing is what I'm trying to say. Sugar and spice together go so well. She doesn't know where you're coming from until one day BAM you spin her around and give her a passionate kiss that says "fuck me now". Best after 2 glasses of whatever. Not too much, not too little, just right to be in the mood and take chances, without ever having buyer's remorse come up.
Also, don't drag this out. Give it 3 days tops to make your move. You want to escalate quickly kinesthetically and emotionally. If you wait too long to kiss her, it fucks things up. If you wait too long to fuck her after you kiss her, she starts to drag it out more and more. Don't get lost in the sex, it's easy to burn out a relationship before it even starts that way. Kiss her when the situation can lead to sex (giving her time to think is never a good idea) then it's all downhill from there. You've done it, just sit back and enjoy the ride.
GOOD LUCK. DON'T THINK. JUST DO IT.
Well, plan ahead, but once you've put the plan in motion just go with it.
Ugh, your advice is awful. Its insincere and makes it seem like its a hunt for an animal, or like you have to take advantage of her to get what you want.
No, I'm really serious. It made me REALLY happy when I thought you were leaving. You seem like the kind of asshole who uses phrases like "spit game" and "sarging". PLEASE leave like you said you would.
OP, don't listen to this crap. Be sincere, be honest, and do things properly, none of this manipulative bullshit. You seem like a decent guy, things should work out for you if you're assertive but you don't act like an asshole.
I_like_pie
2009-01-05, 08:51
Ugh, your advice is awful. Its insincere and makes it seem like its a hunt for an animal, or like you have to take advantage of her to get what you want.
This is all dependent on who he is and who the female is-------------------
If She's stupid, and can be grouped together with all the other stereoTYPICAL women, then yes his advice will work.
If she's smart and different however, he'd have to vary those manipulation techniques (whether he is aware of it or not, it is still manipulation.) to a different form.
Cant Quite Tell
2009-01-05, 09:13
This is all dependent on who he is and who the female is-------------------
If She's stupid, and can be grouped together with all the other stereoTYPICAL women, then yes his advice will work.
If she's smart and different however, he'd have to vary those manipulation techniques (whether he is aware of it or not, it is still manipulation.) to a different form.
Ugh. I'm not necessarily saying that it won't work, I'm saying that even if it does it's just...gross and lame. If he's actually interested in her as a girlfriend, which he seems to be, do you want to get your future gf by manipulating her?
ignis invictus veritatis
2009-01-05, 11:06
^ Every interaction is a form of manipulation or coercion in a sense.
Also, don't confuse being assertive with being an asshole.
Rykoshet's advice is spot on for about 95% of women... a certain amount of cockiness and teasing is necessary to demonstrate that you aren't going to be like most other pussy guys out there (which, from your bitching and moaning, I deduct you probably are) who will let pretty girls walk all over them.
Ford Prefect
2009-01-05, 12:23
Miniupdate: We watched a couple movies tonight. We started late and she's got to work early so I thought is best not to kiss her as we wouldn't have time for it to progress anywhere really. That/I didn't have the balls.
Tested the water though, put my hand on her thigh, had her lay against me, that sort of stuff, just to kind of see where I stand. 70% sure I've got her.
Hey, she just texted me sweet dreams. :)
Feel like a fucking kid again...
-F☺rd
scovegner
2009-01-05, 12:34
GO FOR HER. NOW.
And didn't you say she's moving out in 2 weeks anyway?
NuclearWinter
2009-01-05, 12:55
Miniupdate: We watched a couple movies tonight. We started late and she's got to work early so I thought is best not to kiss her as we wouldn't have time for it to progress anywhere really. That/I didn't have the balls.
Tested the water though, put my hand on her thigh, had her lay against me, that sort of stuff, just to kind of see where I stand. 70% sure I've got her.
Hey, she just texted me sweet dreams. :)
Feel like a fucking kid again...
-F☺rd
Haha, how old are you?
Just remember, just like the stock market, no risk no reward.
Personally, I would have already made my move. If she did reject me, I can usually make people feel comfortable enough to not feel weirded-out about it.
Ford Prefect
2009-01-05, 13:06
Haha, how old are you?
Just remember, just like the stock market, no risk no reward.
Personally, I would have already made my move. If she did reject me, I can usually make people feel comfortable enough to not feel weirded-out about it.
Eighteen. Still am a kid really.
Not really worried about it anymore, I'm doubting it'd even be that awkward if she turns me down. Nothing I can't fix/haven't dealt with before.
Tomorrow it is. G'night totse.
-F☺rd
Agent 008
2009-01-05, 19:18
Ugh, your advice is awful. Its insincere and makes it seem like its a hunt for an animal, or like you have to take advantage of her to get what you want.
No, I'm really serious. It made me REALLY happy when I thought you were leaving. You seem like the kind of asshole who uses phrases like "spit game" and "sarging". PLEASE leave like you said you would.
OP, don't listen to this crap. Be sincere, be honest, and do things properly, none of this manipulative bullshit. You seem like a decent guy, things should work out for you if you're assertive but you don't act like an asshole.
What he is saying is actually true. And it's not about "manipulating" - it's about not manipulating actually, but being a man and taking what you want.
Trying to buy her affection with presents, dinners, compliments and trying to please her in every way is "being manipulative".
Fanglekai
2009-01-05, 20:57
^ Every interaction is a form of manipulation or coercion in a sense.
Also, don't confuse being assertive with being an asshole.
Rykoshet's advice is spot on for about 95% of women... a certain amount of cockiness and teasing is necessary to demonstrate that you aren't going to be like most other pussy guys out there (which, from your bitching and moaning, I deduct you probably are) who will let pretty girls walk all over them.
Yes, every interaction can be a form of manipulation or coercion. It can also be political, or psychological, or any number of things. When you apply the label to everything, it becomes meaningless.
Rykoshet's advice is advocating actual manipulation in order to get the girl. Act hot, then cold. Plan to go on a date then cancel just to make her want you more, etc. Showing different sides of your personality is great and important so she can get a full picture of who you are. However, and this is the main point: What's unnecessary is acting like a dick. By all means, he can make cookies some days and not make time for her other days. The problem with Rykoshet's advice is that it's all artificial. This is what makes it manipulation.
What I mean is that you can do those things without actively planning on doing them or without the sole intention of playing with her emotions/head. For example, make it a point to have days to yourself. This is good. Setting up a date and then canceling it for no reason other than to fuck with her is bad. Instead of doing that, you could achieve the same effect by telling her you have plans for said day, so you won't be doing anything with her. Then you aren't being a dick about it, and she will still want to see you but you'll be off having time to yourself. You should already be doing this without having to make a point of canceling dates. Making time for yourself is assertive and positive, but Rykoshet's method is not the way to do it.
Summing it all up: Being assertive is good. Being confident is good. Acting like a douchebag is not good.
ZeroMalarki
2009-01-06, 02:29
I fucked my flatmate two years ago and am pining after her again.
Basically, I think she's hinting. She wants you man. Unless you're so far into the LJBF zone, which I question.
Ask her the classic "do you want to kiss me?" "You just look like you did"
notamuppet
2009-01-06, 02:34
Ask her the classic "do you want to kiss me?" "You just look like you did"
Is this actually a classic? Sounds kind of creepy to me.
Fanglkai, I'm pretty sure that Rykoshet gets at least 20 times the amount of girls than you. That shit works, I've been trying it lately and I wish I had done this years ago. Its obviously working for the OP right now because that girl totally wants his nuts.
Nice Guys < Bad Boys
Oh whenever your cuddling, ask her, "Do you like suprises?" If she says yes, then kiss her, if she says no, fuck it and kiss her anyways, and say "What about now?"
I want to throw up every time I say that, but its worked every fucking time now.
Fanglekai
2009-01-06, 06:02
Fanglkai, I'm pretty sure that Rykoshet gets at least 20 times the amount of girls than you. That shit works, I've been trying it lately and I wish I had done this years ago. Its obviously working for the OP right now because that girl totally wants his nuts.
Nice Guys < Bad Boys
Mr.Dav (lol I can spell your name wrong too!),
I'm pretty sure you know Rykoshet and myself so well that you can make that judgment.
Oh wait, you don't.
Furthermore, if you had actually read my posts you'd know that I acknowledged that Rykoshet's method works, if you want to pick up trashy girls from bars or have flings. My entire point was that Ford claimed he wanted a girlfriend, so my advice was to be confident, assertive, and honest. You know, the whole goal of that honesty thing being that you'd have a relationship that might go somewhere instead of it being based on sex and manipulation.
If you're only interested in "getting 20x the amount of girls than" what my method would suggest, then by all means, go for it. My advice was to get one quality girl, rather than 20 sluts from the bar, the latter of which can easily be obtained with a little alcohol.
Lastly, I never once said that my advice was good for obtaining shittons of women. It's not, obviously. If I had wanted to post that kind of advice, I would have.
Next time post something constructive.
NuclearWinter
2009-01-06, 06:38
Also, I like your balls.
I also admire his testicles.
Cant Quite Tell
2009-01-06, 07:49
Mr.Dav (lol I can spell your name wrong too!),
I'm pretty sure you know Rykoshet and myself so well that you can make that judgment.
Oh wait, you don't.
Furthermore, if you had actually read my posts you'd know that I acknowledged that Rykoshet's method works, if you want to pick up trashy girls from bars or have flings. My entire point was that Ford claimed he wanted a girlfriend, so my advice was to be confident, assertive, and honest. You know, the whole goal of that honesty thing being that you'd have a relationship that might go somewhere instead of it being based on sex and manipulation.
If you're only interested in "getting 20x the amount of girls than" what my method would suggest, then by all means, go for it. My advice was to get one quality girl, rather than 20 sluts from the bar, the latter of which can easily be obtained with a little alcohol.
Lastly, I never once said that my advice was good for obtaining shittons of women. It's not, obviously. If I had wanted to post that kind of advice, I would have.
Next time post something constructive.
Exactly what I was saying. Rykoshet's "method" MIGHT work, but it is the kind of thing that is damaging and nasty. Its the kind of thing that might work to get girls once or twice, before they realized that you're jerking them around.
And as for rykoshet getting tons of girls? Look how many posts he has. Look how many threads he has posted a ton of posts in. No one who spends this much time on totse is out getting girls. He probably read a few shitty david deangelo books.