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PastorSehmish
2009-01-06, 07:44
Hi Everybody,
China is going to threaten the world at some point. China is a giant that is becoming bigger and more powerful everyday thanks to all of us who keep buying things made in China. We are empowering and financing a country that will one day menace us all. China lies about its military budget all the time. They are spending much more than they admit to. China recently shot down a satellite with a ballistic missile. They were just practicing for what they will do later on to other people’s satellites. China is heavily populated and Chinese people by nature are always seeking to gain more of everything. I know many Chinese people who are wonderful people. China has millions of committed Christians in their country but none of that will deter them from their plans for future conquest. China continually shows it has little respect for human rights and they will be a merciless foe when they come. And when it happens remember we paid for it all, we empowered China by buying cheap goods. We saved a few dollars and squandered our future. May many Chinese people find Christ. I pray China will be evangelized like never before. I wish the Chinese people well and I hope I am wrong about their future intent, but I doubt it.
Regards,
Doctor Pastor Emeritus Wayne Sehmish
Seriously, what does this have to do with Travelling?
Telephoneman
2009-01-06, 16:18
lulz god can eat a dick
easeoflife22
2009-01-06, 18:34
Or, maybe China is just building itself up against western aggression. Most of the companies in China are foreign backed. We use those people like slaves for our own prosperity with little remorse for their living conditions and rights. China uses extreme policing because their people are impoverished, and lash out a lot if not controlled. Almost every luxury that we have that makes our lives so great, is because of economic slavery. Essentially, we exploit people because they don't have enough, and we have lots. We live well, cause we are screwing them over big time.
As for military build up. Do you think westernized countries are truthful about their true military build-ups? It would be incredibly easy to add 25% to every single government program, and then reroute that money through a enough bullshit to the military, that it would be impossible to trace it. There is a reason why US agencies can't access each others banking info. The real military spending is likely twice, if not more than what they're reporting. And then the leave certain vehicles in crates, half assembled so that they don't have to report them to the UN.
There is no right and wrong in this. There is only the people at the top, and everyone else. The people at the top are determined by their ability to keep others down.
As for you Christian bullshit. Most of the people who support the wars going on right now are Christians. Your minds are so numb, you follow whatever your church's consensus is. When Church and Media control the majority of the west's thoughts, and as a result, actions; China isn't so different then us, as it only depends on how you're told to look at the situation. To me, it's just two oppressed nations, told the other is more oppressive, but just both want to be on top. Just the age old power struggle that's been playing out since war was invented.
Yggdrasil
2009-01-07, 01:30
With regards, pastor, do you honestly have the gall to go about evangelizing in a nation with a culture predating yours and mine by 3000 years? They have their own religious traditions, and you have yours. People meddling in other's affairs is why we end up with Crusades and Jihads.
Some Christians even like to point out that their religion is the true word of God, simply because of its age. By that logic, should I not be burning incense by a statuette of Vishnu, or better yet, chanting alongside a fire with Australian aboriginals?
Of course, this is but one argument I have chosen to argue semantics with you. Do not think this is my one-all-end-all argument.
PastorSehmish
2009-01-07, 08:27
With regards, pastor, do you honestly have the gall to go about evangelizing in a nation with a culture predating yours and mine by 3000 years?
Yes.
Some Christians even like to point out that their religion is the true word of God, simply because of its age. By that logic, should I not be burning incense by a statuette of Vishnu, or better yet, chanting alongside a fire with Australian aboriginals?
No.
God Bless,
Dr Pastor Emeritus Wayne Sehmish
easeoflife22
2009-01-07, 14:59
Sorry pastor, I have no ability to respect any of your opinions while maintaining the belief that an invisible man in the sky is controlling everything. Christianity was literally cooked up by romans in the 4th century, which they plagiarized from many religions that came before it. Same old virgin marry, same old wise men, same old death on the cross, same resurrection, blah blah blah. This is historical fact, and is proven. People like you are the reason why this world sucks.
Yggdrasil
2009-01-07, 22:38
With regards, pastor, do you honestly have the gall to go about evangelizing in a nation with a culture predating yours and mine by 3000 years?
Yes
What then, Pastor, warrants your ideas as superior, in the face of a civilization that outperformed and exceeded everything everything yours and mine was capable of right up to the turn of the 19th century. Not only have they their advancements, they have a rich and beautiful tradition of philosophy and religion predating ours by millenia.
Again, I ask you. What gives you the gall, the utter nerve, to tell others who by many standards were our superiors for millenia what to do? Actually, it's not even a question of superiority or inferiority. We have to respect what they believe, or, as I may quote Matthew 7:1-2
"1. Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again"
PastorSehmish
2009-01-08, 04:05
Again, I ask you. What gives you the gall, the utter nerve, to tell others who by many standards were our superiors for millenia what to do? Actually, it's not even a question of superiority or inferiority. We have to respect what they believe, or, as I may quote Matthew 7:1-2
"1. Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2.For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again"
Indeed brother, it does have nothing to do with cultural superiority or inferiority. I am merely trying to obey the Great Commission, it's what Jesus wants us to do. I shall leave the judgement to the Lord, I am merely a servent trying to do His work.
Glad I could enlighten you.
God Bless,
Dr Pastor Emeritus Wayne Sehmish
Indeed China is modernizing and becoming much more powerful, but I doubt they will ever be more powerful than the US and the EU combined. As long as America and Europe maintain a strong alliance, things will be fine. Don't forget that China's economy would bomb if they cut off trade with the US (such as in the event of a war).
Plus, the trend in recent years has been an opening up and liberalization of the Chinese government, not the other way around. They are still not a fully a democracy, and they still have issues with human rights, but they are much better than they were in the past. China has never historically been an aggressive nation, and I don't see that changing in the future.
Yggdrasil
2009-01-10, 20:32
Well, I think the Pastor has left Totse once and for all, but his topic does live on. I still believe it's unwarranted of him to bible-thump on people who have traditions of their own; which are in fact older than his.
Their country is little threat to the US, mainly due to the fact that the main goal of the Chinese government is to promote economic growth, and icy relations with the west, especially the US, would hinder that goal.
That's not to say that over time their army is not getting stronger, more capable, and technologically advanced, which it is. They still haven't got any aircraft carriers, however. And they're still flying 50 year-old Migs.
Name's Taken
2009-01-11, 07:56
That's not to say that over time their army is not getting stronger, more capable, and technologically advanced, which it is. They still haven't got any aircraft carriers, however. And they're still flying 50 year-old Migs.
This is the main reason China isn't a military superpower, they lack the force projection to effectively move the massive numbers of possible conscripts should they be required to use them.
I see China a lot like post WW2 Japan, instead of focusing on military might to protect their interests they're focusing on economic means, which is (for now at least) the only place they are really a major player.
Yggdrasil
2009-01-13, 03:22
That's not to say that the Chinese are not trying to come to terms with or supersede Western military capabilities. But again, the likelihood of them doing anything rash or belligerent is nil. Their main source of strength is economic might, and by being aggressive, they would only be hurting themselves.
Then again, there is always the whole Taiwan issue...
Big Steamers
2009-01-13, 06:04
I warned the people on this message board that China was plundering east Africa on its way to becoming the next great superpower. China doesn't need 50 year old Migs, they got more cash dollar than any other foreign country and are the second largest lender to the US Treasury. China will eat your apples when they colonize east Africa.
yoda_me07
2009-01-13, 13:54
china will most certainly be the next superpower.
maybe even as close to 25-50 years.
they are building an aircraft carrier,
Slave of the Beast
2009-01-13, 14:47
I warned the people on this message board that China was plundering east Africa on its way to becoming the next great superpower.
Indeed, Europe should never have let go of Africa, unfortunately they got too caught up killing each other in WWII to maintain the colonies. And the Chinese don't suffer from the crippling morality that pervades European politics and culture.
the towny
2009-01-13, 19:38
My theory on the Chinese Invasion..
There are just under 3 million of Chinese in America according to the 2000 census. God knows how many there are now. What if the Chinese government is using these people as massive sleeper cells? They could all just be pretending to live the "American Dream" and instead are an invasion force just waiting for the signal to begin the assault. I don't think we could withstand the combination of a surprise attack within our nation and a military force the size of China's.
Yggdrasil
2009-01-13, 23:17
^ Well, that's a gigantic heap of paranoid ramble.
Anyways, you guys are right about Africa. Although Africa isn't the only continent they're keen on exploiting; the Chinese are also signing deals with Latin-American nations.
the towny
2009-01-14, 13:17
^ Well, that's a gigantic heap of paranoid ramble.
Anyways, you guys are right about Africa. Although Africa isn't the only continent they're keen on exploiting; the Chinese are also signing deals with Latin-American nations.
Just trying to get in on the conversation. I'd probably die without my nearby asian markets selling their delicious goodies.
Hi all! :)
I had to join the forum today when I saw this topic, because I found this article yesterday. Coincidence.....I don't think so!
Anyway, it's a long article, but worth the read, if you like scary stories. Below is a teaser line under the title of the article.
And following is the link for the article. (CCP is Chinese Communist Party)
Leading CCP official argues for exterminating U.S. population
link: http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-8/31055.html
or maybe not, according to the message in this rock (below)
(Pastor, you should appreciate the article below)
link: http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-5-31/29172.html