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kkkrakaa
2009-01-06, 09:08
I enjoy smoking cigarettes alot, and at this time I feel like I wouldnt even mind being addicted. But I dont know if I will feel like that later. I wanna know if you guys still enjoy smoking, and how much you liked it before you got addicted. I just got back from the south, and it seems like everyone there smokes and enjoys it. It like part of their culture. And if u could describe what its like to be addicted, what does the craving feel like, and just describe ur addiction. thanks

thatcoolkid
2009-01-06, 10:04
Yes, I still enjoy smoking. If I didn't, I'd stop.

Being addicted to nicotine is like anything else. You go a certain amount of time and then your brain starts to crave it. The longer you go w/o a cigarette the more irritable and agitated you'll get (I believe the medical term for this is a 'nic fit' ;)). Then you light up and all's well. That's what its like to be addicted.

The first cigarette of the day (and I think most people will agree with me) is the best, especially w/ a cup of coffee.

From my experience, tobacco is generally more socially except down south. I have a friend in TN who's dad is a cardiologist and he's still sucking 'em down. Go figure, since he's a doctor and all. Same applies to blue collar towns/poorer areas. More people smoke. I go to school in a blue collar town and when I come back home and light up outside a store or w/e people look at me like I'm hitting crack pipe.

LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
2009-01-06, 10:07
There's also the social aspect to it. Like, when you're just chilling with a bunch of friends, especially if you're high, and you've got nothing to do, it's always nice to light up a cigarette and just talk about shit.

intravenous
2009-01-06, 10:10
There's also the social aspect to it. Like, when you're just chilling with a bunch of friends, especially if you're high, and you've got nothing to do, it's always nice to light up a cigarette and just talk about shit.
How does having something in your mouth aid conversation?

LegalizeSpiritualDiscovry
2009-01-06, 10:29
How does having something in your mouth aid conversation?

It's like, if you're bored, and there's nothing on TV or some shit so your friend goes, "You wanna go smoke a cigarette?" So then you have something to do, go out back and smoke a cigarette for 5-10 minutes and talk, before going back inside and being bored.

TrueBudSmoker
2009-01-06, 10:32
today is my first day not smoking and it's really easy to quit. I've been smoking for the past 7 years.

leet0x
2009-01-06, 11:02
today is my first day not smoking and it's really easy to quit. I've been smoking for the past 7 years.

1st day quitting? i hope you've quit before, because to me it can be quite hard to quit smoking.

tordek battlehammer
2009-01-06, 13:46
Iv been smoking 9 years now, I started back when I was 11 thanks to shitty friends, peer pressure and trying to fit in. Although I enjoy smoking I regret starting and try to put off anyone from smoking if I know they don’t usually smoke or aren’t addicted. As much as I like smoking I would love to be able to quit but just find I don’t have the will power to at least go without that morning and bed time cigarette and cant cope with long days at college when everyone around me is smoking. If quitting aids were cheaper I would have probably done it by now but all I can afford is cheap generic nicotine lozenges which I just find fucking awful.
Also with the smoking ban in the UK I find it a double edges sword, going outside in the winter is pretty nasty but on the other hand it provides some other social opportunities such as the favourite British hobby: Collectively moaning about things such as the cold/smoking ban! It also helps as an excuse to satisfy my social anxiety when I’m out clubbing and such giving me a reason to get outside and chill out have some peace and quiet. I miss being able to sit in the pub and have a pint and ciggy although its not so bad outside on summer evening.

Scumphunk
2009-01-06, 16:29
i've only been smoking for a little while, like 7-8 months, and i feel the crave as almost like a hunger.
also, hell yeah i still enjoy it's jus awesome to chill with your best friends and have a smoke if i stop enjoying it i'll stop smoking

jamaica0535
2009-01-06, 22:11
its sort of a habit and more of an addiction....

In times when im not used to smoking like school or work i hardly think about it, when im in school that part of the mentality gets pushed to the back burner until i leave... you get into sort of a habit with it, wake up and have a cigarette or two to drag your ass out of bed, smoke another on the drive to school, smoke another after getting out of school, get home and smoke some more... rinse and repeat until your addicted....

As far as what the addiction is like, you feel stressed, irritable, generally shitty, a feeling of hunger, and a heavy craving for a cigarette....

if i wasn't feeling so shitty right now i think i would try and give my lungs a bit of a break... its nice to share water at raves, but you will get very fucking sick from it...

Natural Born Raver
2009-01-06, 23:28
I wouldn't say that I'm addicted, but I've been smoking two years now. However it's always been an off and o kinda thing. I'll go without a cig for months at a time, but then on week I might smoke everyday.
Also, Yes, I do still like it.

trippydeath
2009-01-07, 00:31
I didn't like cigarettes so much before I got "addicted" (I don't like using that word but I guess it would be considered that). I used to get too much of a head rush from smoking. Idk why I really started smoking everyday again other than summer was over.

I enjoy smoking a lot more now. No more nauseous head rush feeling and it really puts me in a better mood. When I don't have them it fuckin sucks though. If its just that I haven't smoked that day, I grind my teeth a lot more than usual and my anxiety gets even worse. If its been like a day or 2, I'm just in a shitty mood with a migraine and I freak out on things for no reason. My depression also gets a lot worse and I get really self critical. It also feels like theres something not right in my brain (like somethings missing?) until I do smoke one.

I almost quit during the snow storm that happened around here since I wasn't really craving as much, but then I saw a friend smoking so I had to get one too lol.

pyrozarc
2009-01-07, 00:50
I quit smoking after 4 years, a week ago, and everythings going fine. I used to smoke between 8-14 cigs (roll-ups) a day and 2-4 spliffs. I couldnt imagine life without smoking, I used to love it. But then I realised that I was happy BEFORE I started smoking, that I didnt need to smoke to get me through the day. Then I stumbled across www.whyquit.com and I decided to quit. I feel a lot better, I dont smell like smoke all the time, not really coughing as much, everythings good.

If I ever smoke tobacco again tho, chances are I'll get addicted again, it happens every time. Fuck that, whats the point? Nicotines a bullshit drug, I honestly wish I'd listened to people when they told me its bad! Seriously take a look at www.whyquit.com its got some useful pointers if you're interested in quitting.

Promethazine
2009-01-07, 03:24
I been smokin' since October of '06.

I loved it at the time. it was so perfect. now i only really ENJOY cigarettes when i'm drunk or exceptionally stoned, or on any type of stim.

the other times, i may SOMETIMES get a relaxing feeling, but mostly it is a nasty taste and irritated lungs.

i hate it don't get addicted. i throw away 20$ a week on smokes.

lostmyface
2009-01-07, 03:27
i have been smoking cigs now for 10 years. for the first 7 years i really enjoyed it. i loved the flavor the action of lighting an inhaling, an the nicotine. boy i liked that nicotine feeling of pure an utter calmness.

but now. i wish i could quit. i dont enjoy the way it feels so much any more. or the taste. all i really like now is lighting, inhaling an exhaling. plus i really love have a cig between my fingers. but do i enjoy tobacco with the same intensity that i used to. no. i dont.

:(

All Goes Wrong
2009-01-07, 03:29
I live in the south where smoking is accepted and out of my group of friends there's only a few who don't smoke. A while back I told one of my friends that I didn't smoke and he was surprised, hell everybody smokes where I live even kids. I was walking to mc donalds after school one time (there's a mc donalds like half a mile from the school) and this like 10 or 11 year old kid tried to bum a cigarette off of me.

ff420
2009-01-07, 03:55
I've been smoking for about 5 years now and I'm not really so addicted. There have been entire months where i don't smoke and month's where I smoke a pack a day, right now I have about 6 cigs a week. I'm definitely a bit hooked, because I can't seem to kick it for good, I always end up getting drunk and bumming off some one and then I'm right back to it. Honestly though, now that I know I can easily maintain this level fuck it. It feels nicer and it costs me like a dollar a week.
Only bad part is my girlfriend bitching at me, but whatever, I don't really want to quit.

Europa
2009-01-07, 04:56
I think nicotine addiction is very very overplayed.

I believe that physical dependence plays a relatively small role in habitual smoking. Doing the same thing repeatedly day after day is of course going to become a habit. I think its safe to say the average smoker spends over one hour every day either smoking, getting smokes, or talking about them.

These sessions are usually spread throughout the day, not long before, during or after doing something that is also done repeatedly (first thing in the morning, after meals, breaks as work/school, smoking weed, sex and so on)

So when the person tries to quit, they are constantly reminded throughout the day that they are no longer smoking because at the times that they would normally smoke they don't have anything to do. More than anything I think, people use cigarettes to fill in "dead time" while waiting, on breaks, relaxing after eating a meal or having sex. Those 5-10 minutes might as well not exist for non-smokers, but once you smoke enough to get used to having something to do in that time, you are of course left with empty spaces.

This is comparable to "video game addiction" which I'm sure you have all heard of. Kids playing games hours every day until that becomes the norm, and when you remove the game you're left with an empty space, very similar to the 5-10 minute empty spaces in the life of something who is trying to quit, with the main difference being gaming addiction is "cured" much more easily than cigarette addiction because it isn't that hard to find something to do in that period of time (that period being hours long), unlike smoking, which fills 5-10 minute "do nothing" gaps such after a meal or while waiting for something (who likes waiting? ;))

Heres a question for you people who are addicted to cigarettes - Do you feel "hungry" for a smoke when you are focused (ACTUALLY focused) on something, or when you are idle?


You're not addicted to nicotine, you're addicted to something else. Can you guess what? ;)

(I should fucking well hope so, at least if you read this post)

VinMetal666
2009-01-07, 05:32
I been smokin' since October of '06.

I loved it at the time. it was so perfect. now i only really ENJOY cigarettes when i'm drunk or exceptionally stoned, or on any type of stim.

Pretty much what you said. Started in the Fall of 2006, loved it then, and now the only time they're completely as pleasurable is when I'm drunk or high. Either that or after a day without one.

Aerogone
2009-01-07, 09:12
You sukkas that dont know bout Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, and the role and function of ACh in da body.... well you dont know your bodies too well. Particularly those of you who think that you are not addicted. You are addicted right from your first few cigarette.

But now comes the hard decision since you have become addicted....
do you quit and risk mental instability, fatness, increased risks of death from certain diseases, and general decrease in life intensity....

personally, nah.. ill stay here, and burn the devil's smoke

MeTaL1364
2009-01-07, 10:22
i smoked for 4 years at 2-3 packs of marb reds a day....quitting wasn't easy merely for the fact that everything i did reminded me of doing that while smoking...so doing it without a cigg was boring and easy...i quit about 4 months ago and now my only cravings come from stress, a big meal, booze, stimulants, hallucinogens, and opiates

Xandre
2009-01-07, 17:14
Quitting is hard, I quit a year ago and I still crave.

Bah.

stfumofoz
2009-01-07, 19:36
...the main difference being gaming addiction is "cured" much more easily than cigarette addiction because it isn't that hard to find something to do in that period of time...

Were you one of those kids that said "FUCK THIS GAME! It's sending me into a downward spiral! I'm going to do my homework instead!" with a smile at the end? ...imagine being that kid's parents... or imagine being the typical kids' parents where as soon as you "accidentally" pull the circuit breaker and have to put up with a really pissy kid.

To be honest, there's something a little more satisfying about playing games that involve mental stimulation to win AND the satisfaction of winning rather than lighting up a cigarette, feeling satisfied, and knowing that its over and you're back to normal life because chain smoking sucks and that you're going to have to go smoke another one later.

I had an early stage of prescription painkiller med habit that, thankfully, got stopped with me realizing that I don't want to spend the rest of my life getting a fix so that I don't shit myself or have a heart attack and shit myself.
Avoiding painkillers was pretty fucking easy after my first case of multiple day, non-infection related diarrhea, which showed up during the week after my week-long intake.

I think cigarette addiction is severely underplayed. Just because even though it may be looked down upon in some areas, you're not going to get whipped, beaten, stoned, tarred and feathered, and ostracized and, just to top it all off, arrested then put in a cell with "Mr. Bigpole". You're not going to ruin your life/health as quickly as with meth or coke, so that also takes away some of the scare factor, unless you have some sort of strange allergic reaction to nicotine.

Sure, its just a cigarette... they're sold in stores, some stores sell them to minors if you play it right (I know my local convenience store did if I just gave some more of a bullshit two-line story and I just opened my wallet for the camera to show my high school I.D.). Lots of people smoke then.... the warning label only says stuff like "Cigarettes MAY be hazardous to your health" instead of "They're proven to cause cancer". We have the heart surgeon that smokes cigarettes... hell, I even had a dentist that told me its obvious I started smoking... at which point I could only comment on the smell of cigarettes on him because he smokes one between each appointment. It can't be that bad, right? lol.

So, with all the scare factors taken away and all the cleverly placed posters on convenience store windows and all the people that smoke on the street... what's there to drive anyone away from smoking besides the annoyance of having to take 10 minutes regularly to sooth the craving? Propaganda... which I see about as often as I see a 100% properly functioning Windows PC that someone actually used since Windows was installed.

So, what's driving people to smoke from the beginning? Curiosity usually, quite unavoidably. No one is curious about playing video games for the first time, didn't we all know it was supposed to be fun?
What drives people to have another one? Is it the vasoconstriction? the oxygen deprivation? The yellowing of the teeth? The "wonderfully" FULL taste of their favourite brand? The fresh breath you have after smoking a "menthol" cigarette? The burning of the throat and slow onset of asthma symptoms?.... These are all part of the "buzz" that gets people hooked the first time... the buzz that you only like due to the forced effect on the brain... I mean, who the hell wants high blood breasure, the inability to breath, decrease of oxygen to the brain, yellow teeth, nasty breath, impotence, a burning throat, and the beloved smoker's cough? ....Someone who had a cigarette without thinking about what they really want... the dopamine rush that gets you addicted to whatever creates it.

Sure, you can find something else to do... but you're going to have to do something you SERIOUSLY love to do just to compensate for the lower than usual dopamine levels in your brain due to nicotine withdrawal AND still have enough of a rush to like your new hobby more than smoking.... what what happens once you're done doing whatever it is that you're doing? You want a cigarette... guess why... because you still have many many DAYS of withdrawal left. And since physical addiction is only the starting point of the full thing it can seem mild and still get you hooked because of the nature of relatively mild withdrawals. I mean, why quit now? Why not put it off a bit later? your physical withdrawals are probably not going to get much worse... but EVERY cigarette you have adds to the psychological addiction. You know... its not because you don't want to be constipated, its because its just what you "like" (i.e. want) to do. That's what makes you want it more and more. If the first cigarette managed to get you hooked then how much more do you think that you've psychologically addicted yourself if you couldn't reason your way out of smoking a second one EVER?

...I wish I was addicted to video games because then I could just fantasize about getting to the next level or beating the next mission in my time.... instead of diarrhea, constipation, anger management issues, screwed up blood pressure, worrying about oxygen supply, coughing, having a burning throat, phlem, smelling bad (not avoidable if you smoke anywhere that you can't immediately remove the smell, avoidable if you play video games as long as you shower when you wake up).


...now, I met one smart kid while walking over to my dealer's house. He looked like he was somewhere between 7 and 13, he was playing with younger kids, he walked up to me and asked if I had a cigarette. I said no, so he gave me a pack and said he doesn't smoke but if I could hook him up with some chronic....

I don't particularly want to quit, it would only add stress due to my current life situation. However, once I'm in a place/time where I can avoid stress then I will quit. I've quit before while visiting my family in Poland only because I didn't crave a cigarette but as soon as I step into my house then I feel like I'm going to have an aneurysm or something. I've been smoking for all of a year or two. I can avoid smoking monday through friday (yes, I'm old enough to do my homework on my own will) but when the weekend rolls around then it depends on variables. If the one guy that NEVER bought a pack but doesn't want to quit decides to show up then my rule is "No smoking my cigarettes more often that I do." and suddenly all my cravings go away. Easy? No, thanks to getting pissed off easily. I never thought I'd crave anything more than I crave being mildly annoying... apparently I crave cigarettes more than being mildly annoying to others.
Now I'm just ranting, but the point is that cigarettes don't have enough immediate negatives to scare you away, its too easily accepted in society that someone smokes, the serious consequences (besides withdrawal) don't show up until much later but seem insignificant compared to nicotine withdrawal, and people are supposed to QUIT when given a choice as easy as go out for a smoke or stay inside and be agitated?

The only way to quit smoking is to forget that you're a smoker. Something like LSA at least would do the trick... just start chain smoking while on psychedelics... would chain smoking make you feel better when you're not feeling the anger, only the automatic action of the habit itself?
Though, I've had partial success with Bupropion. It stops the cravings, allowing you to freely learn to stop lighting up poison and inhaling the smoke from the other end, and also makes some of the immediate negative effects seem much worse by removing the ONE seemingly positive effect.... it really does nothing against the habit of accepting a cigarette when offered by someone else. You seriously need something to exaggerate the gruesomeness of inhaling vapourized tar, CO2, CO, and whatever the fuck else is in it, just to seriously consider quitting aside from the eventual force from everyone's nagging you to quit.... it takes a severe amount of nagging and a frighteningly low threshold for subconscious influence for that to happen.

uhhh... I forgot why I wanted to write this post, leaving me unsatisfied, and I must smoke a cigarette so hope you enjoyed reading whatever I wrote. (Courtesy conclusion, I don't really care if you read it, or enjoyed reading it.)


...but, sorry if I ruined this thread.

John Q. Adequate
2009-01-08, 10:08
Smoking for 6 years now. Addicted. Don't enjoy it, can't quit, have tried.

5MOK420
2009-01-08, 11:41
I enjoy smoking cigarettes alot, and at this time I feel like I wouldnt even mind being addicted. But I dont know if I will feel like that later. I wanna know if you guys still enjoy smoking, and how much you liked it before you got addicted. I just got back from the south, and it seems like everyone there smokes and enjoys it. It like part of their culture. And if u could describe what its like to be addicted, what does the craving feel like, and just describe ur addiction. thanks

first off ive been smoking consistently for the past 3 years. a pack every 2 days without quitting for longer than 18 hours. ive recently tried to quit (i had thought addiction couldnt touch me) but failed fucking miserably. i lasted from 8am when i woke up until 630pm when i got home from work and i was livid. my roommates were begging me to smoke one because of how agitated i was feeling from the lack of some bullshit taxed and sold to fund the economy of the government i dont support.

after a while you ask yourself why, why am i smoking, why cant i quit, why do i NEED nicotine? it may look "cool" but it will become habit and a necesity just to start the day. first thing i think of when i wake up is a cig and coffee. then during a nice breakfast im already thinking of how nice the cigarette afterwards will be. its a fucking bitch to look forward to time where you get a smoke.

when you cant have one its like waiting for that last hour of work or school, you try to think of other things but all your mind goes back to is that there are only 59 minutes and 28 seconds before youre out, or in this case, its a little cancer stick. you feel panicky, rushed, antsy, agitated, hungry, and fucking ANGRY! i cant tell you how many times ive punched a wall when having a nicfit.

so my advice is to just not smoke. but since nobody ever listens to that (i know i didnt), smoke em up jimmy!

you will mind being addicted when the rent is due and youre out of ciggies.

stfumofoz
2009-01-08, 17:10
Simply being out of cigs will be enough to make you mind being addicted.

legituser
2009-01-08, 21:19
I only really smoke when I'm at work or on drugs. I still get the buzzed feeling off cigs.