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starjones
2009-01-07, 00:20
i live in lake city fl. and my school makes all boys tuck in their shirts, but not girls.

isnt this unconstitutional since it only applies to boys? they said girls were suppose to, but they dont enforce it for them.

Peoples Elmo
2009-01-07, 00:25
just dont do it
I guess your one of those lame ass private school kids?

starjones
2009-01-07, 02:21
no, i go to regular public school

starjones
2009-01-07, 02:22
no, i go to regular public school, and if i dont do it theyll suspend me

Knight of blacknes
2009-01-07, 11:56
First, never be afraid of or otherwise accept threats. If girls don't have to tuck in their shirts, then so don't you. Just leave it they way you like it. If they say anything about it, state that girls aren't being enforced to tuck in their shirts. If they say you are suspended, tell them you will take (legal) steps against them.

Go home, play on XboX live a bit and wait for phonecall for you to come back to school.

phmeworp
2009-01-07, 15:15
In a word: Yes.

Every school district in the state of Florida has the authority to establish dress codes for students attending their schools. Further, they can delegate some or all of that authority to the principals of individual schools.

These dress codes can, and often do, differ depending upon school or even grade level. Also, it is normal to have different rules for male and female students. I don't know what grade you are in, but eventually I suspect that they will teach you that there are certain anatomical differences between boys and girls. (I agree that that issue has no bearing upon your shirt-tail issue that I can see. The point is, there can be differences and there is no inherent 'right' for both genders to be treated alike.)

Is this fair? Maybe not. Is is legal? Absolutely!

TCStyle
2009-01-07, 18:22
You don't have any constitutional or common law right to keep your shirt untucked. Most school districts have a right to enforce dress code regulations as they see fit. I remember back in high school some dude wore a dress. The kid was a total fucking faggot and tried to argue the same thing you are when administration confronted him. So what does this mean?

Wear a dress to get your point across or stfu and graduate high school.

Knight of blacknes
2009-01-08, 12:39
The right of schools to pass dress codes is not the topic here. The school states that both boys and girls need to wear their shirts tucked in. This is a matter of inconsequent enforcement. If the rules state that both sexes need their shirts tucked in then both need to be enforced with equal force. Unequal treatment in equal circumstances means discrimination. This is discrimination.

redjoker
2009-01-08, 18:52
You look like a fag if you tuck in anything that is not a dress shirt. Grow some fucking balls.

fatkitty420
2009-01-08, 20:17
If the principal or anyone enforcing the rules regularly is either a female or a male who looks/seems "sleazy" (for a lack of a better word) then you may be able to files claims on sexism.

I was under the impression that Dress Codes are usually created in order to keep "gang symbols" and class status (the economic kind) out of the school yard there for lowering confrontations and aggression. I'm not quite sure how having an un-tucked shirt can possibly be preventative to anything a Dress Code is originally created. If it's simply there because of "tradition", and by that I mean either created during a large fundamental christian...etc, then you could and should challenge the rules either via Board of Education or create a public outcry.

There are many studies done proving the Dress Codes don't really offer very many positive aspects short of creating a military style conformity. Appeal the rule stating you would like "Artistic Expression"... which is, in fact, upheld by the Constitution. A public school is a part of the federal government and shouldn't be considered it's own rogue ruling force, after all... Although the former is almost always the case.

You can't be a stupid fucking teenager when addressing these problems and simple defiance will almost always lead to you being suspended on account of "Defiant Behavior" as apposed to not tucking in your shirt. There are many loop holes to punish students. Your best bet would be enlisting, at first, your parents... then appeal to the community. Devise a presentation that seems logical and if that isn't accepted threaten legal action. If legal action is what it takes then you will undoubtedly be out of High School by the time the case is heard in any court that would take it seriously.

I live in Florida but I went to a Magnet/Artistic school that had almost no dress code. Girls went to school in bikinis... seriously.

APguy
2009-01-08, 21:29
Here's why they want you to tuck in your shirt. hint hint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8aZqgxV7Q

starjones
2009-01-08, 21:46
yeah some friends and i have been thinking about protesting it by tucking our shirts into our boxers. they would hate that, and it would be tucked in. as long as i keep my pants above my pubes, they cant to anything.

scovegner
2009-01-08, 21:52
Girls went to school in bikinis... seriously.

...
If only every school was like that :D

redjoker
2009-01-09, 00:32
Here's why they want you to tuck in your shirt. hint hint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8aZqgxV7Q

No one can tell I have a .22 in the pocket of my adidas shorts. A dress code isn't going to stop a kid intent on killing lots of people. A dress code isn't going to stop a kid intent on carrying a weapon. Cool video though.

InspiredByMe
2009-01-09, 00:44
Quite simple the schools sexist. On the better side of it though its something to complain about and get girls to talk to you.

13579
2009-01-09, 06:30
Haha, this reminds me of something that happened at my school.

We don't have much of a dress code, but I remember last year a girl I knew wore her cheerleading skirt on halloween.

She got sent to the principals office and was told to change out of it because it was too short.

Yet it is the school cheerleading uniform provided to her by the school.

So it's okay to look like a slut when your cheering for the school team, but they don't want you to on normal school hours or when outside of assemblies.

APguy
2009-01-10, 21:57
I suggest you get the commies at the ACLU involved.

TCStyle
2009-01-11, 01:05
The right of schools to pass dress codes is not the topic here. The school states that both boys and girls need to wear their shirts tucked in. This is a matter of inconsequent enforcement. If the rules state that both sexes need their shirts tucked in then both need to be enforced with equal force. Unequal treatment in equal circumstances means discrimination. This is discrimination.

You're basing your argument off an assumption. OP did not say anything of unequal enforcement. The schools official policy may very well state that only boys are required to tuck in their shirts. Equal is not identical and I'm sure girls are bound by other terms which boys are not. And even the administration isn't treating girls differently that doesn't mean that you can ignore the dress code the of the school... it only means that they need to adhere also.

Besides you're missing the main point.... WHO THE FUCK CARES?!?! I mean no one is going to waste their time over such a trivial matter. I hope you aren't a senior.

Lotek
2009-01-13, 17:51
TITLE 9 removes the state's responsibility to grand bill of rights benefits to students as long as its in the course of securing and implementing a safe learning place, as they are so mandated to do. this allows school districts to do things such as filter internet, filter spoken and written word, punish based on circumstantial evidence, enforce rules and mandates which are specificly opposite of the bill of rights if they benefit a majority of students wellbeing. this law decision in my opinion has allowed for the unequal treatment of students since its implementation. just like all of the educational and legal changes which resulted from the perceived increase in school violent s each decade(if you look into it there always has been violations of humanity which have taken place in schools, with a relatively stable frequency, just a change in focus and method of violent s. i fought it on countless faces. i lost.

Quit and go to college. if your not apt for that answer, fuckoff.