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wAste
2009-01-13, 16:31
Hi,

I have a friend who believes that exercising heavily before smoking weed increases the amount of THC absorbed into your body from any given amount of weed, e.g. one joint.
He hypothesises that this is the case because your breathing is much heavier, and, similar to the way your lungs absorb more than the usual amount of oxygen, they also absorb more of the THC per toke than they would if you were breathing normally. He also thinks that the increased heart rate caused by exercising would pump more blood around the body, and at a faster speed, therefore transporting more THC into the brain in any given period of time.

I have another friend who believes the exact opposite; that exercising beforehand is a bad idea as he suggests your lungs would focus more on oxygen and less on any other chemicals that might be present. He also suggests that having an increased heart rate would in fact speed up the process of “coming-down” from one’s high.

Which of my friends is right, &T?
Or are they both wrong, and there is no significant difference between either of the two circumstances?

To sum up my question:
If you gave two identical people two identical joints, to be smoked in the same time-period, the only difference being one has been exercising heavily beforehand and one has been relaxing in bed or whatever, which person will be higher?


Mods: Feel free to move this to a health/body forum (Reinvent Yourself?) if it would be more appropriate there.

~wAste!

Timby
2009-01-13, 16:40
I havn't really noticed that much of a difference personally. I don't exercise overly, but I do do a few weights and push ups and such both before and during smoking sessions and I don't really feel higher because of it or lacking effects. You feel a bit better about yourself, but that's just because exercise feels good.

Bean_Doodle
2009-01-13, 17:22
I dont think the lungs are smart enough to distinguish between oxygen and THC. Like, they wouldn't open the oxygen-holes more than the hydrocarbon-holes.

xian
2009-01-13, 17:28
cough before you smoke.

FaceTheSlayer
2009-01-13, 18:37
cough before you smoke.

"Coughing's good! It opens up the capillaries. You know, when you cough you're pulling in air, or in this case - smoke, into parts of the lungs that don't normally get used. So, coughing's good, it gets you higher."

Citrys
2009-01-13, 20:03
Doing alot of cardio makes you get waaaay higher. but don't toke RIGHT after. Then your breath will be short. chillax after a fatty run, then toke up. You'll be high as balls. I guarantee it.

SLice_760
2009-01-14, 00:18
I was playing ping pong while high the other day. It was lolz.

Crystal Antlers
2009-01-14, 00:39
first of all, its not like your heart rate is going to stay at 160 bpm (or whatever is cardio for you) for that long after you workout. Unless you smoke like, within a minute after a run or something, i doubt your heart rate will have any effect. Plus smoking naturally raises your heart rate for the first couple of minutes after you start. I don't know the biology of how lungs work, but i do feel like my lungs are more.....efficient......after i do cardio- meaning i need less oxygen to exert the same amount of energy. but this is probably mainly due to how effective you heart is as a pump (muscle) to deliver oxygen rich blood to your body.

If there's no other effects on our lungs from doing cardio, then i would say both of their arguments are invalid. No matter what though, your second friend (yeah, couldn't be you) would be wrong. The idea that lungs can "focus" on a certain chemical is a little wierd.....and just because blood is pumped faster wouldn't produce a quicker come-down. THC is like, destroyed by enzymes or something like that.

stfumofoz
2009-01-14, 15:13
The answer is in your question. You just need to raise your heart rate to increase the rate of distribution and then you need to breath, therefore smoke, faster in order to increase the rate of absorption.
Just ask someone to give you a panic attack while you're smoking and tell them you won't kill them or get them back for it, otherwise it won't work.

Kbasa
2009-01-14, 17:09
Its probably just a combination of endorphin high (if he actually exercising that hard) and smoking that makes him feel higher.

Steal_Everything8
2009-01-14, 22:42
I dont think the lungs are smart enough to distinguish between oxygen and THC. Like, they wouldn't open the oxygen-holes more than the hydrocarbon-holes.

I think they probably are. They can distinguish potassium from oxygen from carbon from lithium, etc., .etc. I don't see why they wouldn't know what to do with THC. The cells would be focusing on getting oxygen, and not THC.

That's just a guess though.

stfumofoz
2009-01-14, 23:30
Its probably just a combination of endorphin high (if he actually exercising that hard) and smoking that makes him feel higher.

...this too.

Relentless
2009-01-15, 01:17
well, i been taking marinol here while in the hospital and since my foot is fubar, i been racing the hallways in the wheelchair, excercising the... fubar.... out of my arms.

RwithTF
2009-01-15, 01:25
Well, I usually notice that when I used to smoke at this spot in the woods by my house with my boys we would have to walk up a hill to get to the spot. We would usually spark the l at the bottom of the hill and when you walk and are breathing harder we usually got a lot higher. It could have been a coincidence, but I stick by that we just got higher from breathing harder and shit and smoking.

stfumofoz
2009-01-15, 02:25
I would imagine that eating pizza with hot peppers and a layer of Tabasco sauce as thick as the grease would get you breathing faster, your heart beating faster, and endorphins pumping harder... theoretically, if you put Tabasco sauce on your salad then you would probably get higher and eat healthy at the same time.

Crystal Antlers
2009-01-15, 02:34
thinking about it again, i always feel the high loses some of its intensity when i get up and start walking. Its probably from connecting my mind with the movement of my body though.....

wAste
2009-01-15, 02:40
So is anyone able to give me a difinitive answer?
Like, with some scientific reasoning?
It is very interesting to see peoples different opinions, they're cool too, but some real hard evidence would be sweet.

~wAste!

Kee
2009-01-15, 03:35
I don't have any hard evidence. But when I started lifting, I would get really nauseous afterward. Since I needed to eat a full meal after working out, I would usually smoke afterward to kill the nausea and get hungry. I always noticed that if I smoked after I had a heavy workout, I would get waaay higher with a shorter amount of weed. I always loved smoking after a good lift.

stfumofoz
2009-01-15, 03:46
So is anyone able to give me a difinitive answer?
Like, with some scientific reasoning?
It is very interesting to see peoples different opinions, they're cool too, but some real hard evidence would be sweet.

~wAste!

To answer your question, both would get the same high. The difference is that one would have a high that got mixed with a different kind of high.
Imagine if NEITHER of them smoked the weed and only one of them exercised? FUCKING CHRIST.
Whoever didn't get this one should not smoked weed and record their results on a data table. Then, continue to not smoke weed, make a realistic attempt at exercise, and record the results on a data table. All while sober.

This thread should be moved to Cunning Linguists or something else completely unrelated to physical, mental, and emotional well-being.

Relentless
2009-01-15, 04:28
I would imagine that eating pizza with hot peppers and a layer of Tabasco sauce as thick as the grease would get you breathing faster, your heart beating faster, and endorphins pumping harder... theoretically, if you put Tabasco sauce on your salad then you would probably get higher and eat healthy at the same time.

and that has what with EXCERCISE and THC absorption...?

i got your point, but you're way off topic there, lol

Galgamech
2009-01-15, 08:42
So is anyone able to give me a difinitive answer?
Like, with some scientific reasoning?
It is very interesting to see peoples different opinions, they're cool too, but some real hard evidence would be sweet.

~wAste!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorphin

stfumofoz
2009-01-15, 12:12
and that has what with EXCERCISE and THC absorption...?

i got your point, but you're way off topic there, lol

Its for the lazy people, I don't think the original poster figured out how to exercise but I'm sure he remembers to eat food from time to time if he's still alive enough to use a keyboard. Basically, exercise releases endorphins and spicy food releases endorphins... just put 2 and 2 together. THe difference is that you can get a sudden blast of endorphins from a bit of Tabasco but exercise requires work outside of chewing something.