OxyMaximus
2009-01-13, 16:57
do i have to cook methadone with water befor i bang it or just mix it in water?cold or hot I know oxys you just need water no heat but i don't know about methadone.:)
ShroomLove
2009-01-13, 18:51
I would just dissolve the fine powder in lukewarm - warm water, filter it as you draw up.
Oh, and....why would you want to bang methadone?
:rolleyes:
h0ppinlowrider
2009-01-13, 19:13
Methadone dosent give a rush when its IVed so there isnt really a reason to shoot it. Found this with a google search
INJECTING METHADONE
We can’t stress enough that methadone was made to be taken orally, never injected. It’s not sterile, it has some seriously nasty ingredients for veins and organs, you might end up hanging out, and many users don’t get a rush anyway. This guide is only for those who insist on injecting their methadone, to make sure they can reduce the many risks involved.
Possible health problems
Methadone syrup was never designed for injection. Each millilitre contains 5 mg of methadone hydrochloride, sodium benzoate, ethanol, sorbitol solution, glycerol, caramel and finally, flavour pharmaceutical 503.978/A. These can have the following effects when injected:
Methadone hydrochloride: respiratory depression
Sodium benzoate: Hypersensitivity and allergic reactions. Respiratory reactions have occurred in people susceptible to aspirin-induced asthma.
Ethanol: Central nervous system depression, which can lead to stopping breathing and coma
Sorbitol solution: effects can be similar to a ‘dirty hit’: facial flushing, abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting and sweating. High levels may lead to kidney failure or kidney stones.
Glycerol, caramel and flavour pharmaceutical 503.978/A:
effects unknown.
Some of these ingredients can cause allergic reactions, respiratory reactions, and damage your heart, kidney, veins and liver if injected. Talk to your NSP workers or methadone prescriber about the differences between pure methadone and methadone with additives.
In some cases, methadone is mixed with cordial or fruit juice. Injecting this after it has been in someone’s mouth also means there will be plenty of harmful bacteria entering your bloodstream.
Methadone is not a sterile fluid so blood diseases can arise from injection. A large volume of injected fluid can also cause vein damage, especially if injected quickly. Always go slow and steady.
Injecting methadone will lessen the amount of time it will stay in the body, so withdrawal symptoms will usually come on earlier than usual. Some users state there is no rush from injecting methadone anyway and it is just a needle fixation. In any case, weigh up the high risks of injection carefully against the perceived benefit.
What you need to inject methadone
Use new, sterile equipment with each shot. Never share your equipment and make sure you have the following gear.
STERILE WATER
Ideally you should mix nine parts sterile water to one part of methadone syrup (please note these figures are based on done syrup in Australia only). The absolute minimum amount should be three parts water to methadone syrup. However, your methadone may already be diluted by the chemist which can complicate the process.
SYRINGES -
Larger 10ml or 20ml barrels are best due to the amounts involved.
‘DRAWING UP’ NEEDLES
These are 19 and 21 guage needles, able to draw up methadone into the barrel.
BUTTERFLY NEEDLES
These are 25 and 23 guage surflo needle tips with plastic tubing, designed to cope with larger amounts of fluid, as the butterfly stays in your vein as you change barrels.
FILTERS
You can use cotton wool, cigarette filters or swabs with the alcohol rinsed out, but wheel filters are best, especially when the syrup has been in someone’s mouth. The 0.2 filter can remove the bacteria that cause bad hit and serious infections. You can also use butterflies to make the injection from multiple barrels easier.
SWABS
Use these to clean your equipment and injection sites. Wipe them in one direction, once only. Wait for the area to dry - it is the drying action that kills germs. Do NOT use to stop bleeding after an injection as the alcohol encourages bleeding.
SOAP
Clean your preparation areas and hands before and after using, to reduce the risks of blood borne diseases like hepatitis C and HIV.
TOURNIQUET
Make sure you clean this with soap before and after use and never share.
SAFE DISPOSAL BIN
This should come with your gear from the Needle Syringe Program. It is illegal not to safely dispose of used injecting equipment in a rigid-walled, puncture resistant, sealable container.
Mixing the mix
Clean your work area and hands with soapy water and get your gear ready.
You will need triple the amount of water for the amount of methadone e.g:
5mls of methadone syrup, 15mls water.
Mix the sterile water through the methadone by stirring or shaking.
Attach a ‘drawing up’ needle to the syringe. Draw up all the fluid into the syringe if possible. Repeat with more syringes as needed. Inject the fluid through filters until the fluid is clear. Use a new filter each time.
Prime your filter using sterile water only. Draw the clear fluid up into a syringe and connect a wheel filter to the syringe. Push the fluid through the filter into a new sterile syringe or a clean bowl.
Do not reuse any equipment, as it is now unclean from the unfiltered fluid. Draw the fluid into as many new syringes as required.
Connect the butterfly to the syringe and push the fluid through until you see the fluid entering the end of the needle.
Injecting the mix
Select a vein. Place a warm towel over the site to bring veins to the surface then swab the injection site.
Inject slowly and steadily. It is extremely dangerous to inject a large volume of fluid into a vein (try to use different sites in future to minimise damage).
Apply adhesive tape over the plastic ‘wings’ of the butterfly needle to secure it against your skin.
If you need to change barrels when you have filled more than one syringe with methadone, bend the tubing of the butterfly needle in half tightly at the end to which you connect the syringe, before you change barrels. This stops back flow.
Have another syringe with sterile water ready to inject after the methadone. This empties the tube, so you get all of the mix.
When you take the needle out of your arm, put pressure on the injection site for a couple of minutes to stop the bleeding. Using a swab will only make it bleed and bruise.
Wash your hands and place all used equipment in to the safe disposal bottle and seal. Dispose of the bottle responsibly.
OxyMaximus
2009-01-13, 21:21
thats about liquid i'm talking about pill form