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subri
2009-01-14, 20:08
Every time I go to a party with my friends or even just hang out with them they always try to get me to drink.

The thing is I hate alcohol the taste (except whiskey), the things it makes people do, and how dumb it has made all my friends get over time.

Every time I say no they always seem to think: "Hey maybe if I ask one more fucking time he'll say yes!" but I'm just as stubborn as they are.

My question is has anyone else had to deal with this bullshit? And if so how did you get through to them and make them understand no means no?

|Six|
2009-01-14, 22:13
I haven't experienced that, really. I'm a little surprised, actually, considering a lot of people drink around here. My friends know and don't drink and don't try to get me to drink. Some people can't accept people don't drink, I guess.

R. Kelly
2009-01-14, 22:44
no means no?

You don't. The phrase "No means no" holds no water when alcohol is involved.

Get better friends.

dagnabitt
2009-01-15, 01:40
Not really a good place for this, despite your title. Moving to spurious.

LSA King
2009-01-15, 01:53
Quit being a bitch and just have a fucking beer or two. You wont get drunk and act like a fucktard and if you smoke while drinking it makes beer taste better and then you wont have to worry about being outcast by your friends in the near future as this is what I see if you continue your sober loser habits. At least get a better excuse as to why you wont drink then "it taste nasty" no shit all alcohol does its the end effect which counts. We dont sip liquor we slam it. Don't wake up and say man I could have a glass of vodka with my eggs.


Or say your a alcoholic trying to recover.

Ed Lister
2009-01-15, 02:02
Your life is going to be riddled with lost experience, regret and failure if you don't learn to handle a few drinks. It's a fully entrenched part of Western Culture and a few uptight snifflers here and there like yourself isn't going to change that. It's one of the those things you just have to accept in life, like letting down your parents and STDs.

ArgonPlasma2000
2009-01-15, 02:03
Every time I go to a party with my friends or even just hang out with them they always try to get me to drink.

The thing is I hate alcohol the taste (except whiskey), the things it makes people do, and how dumb it has made all my friends get over time.

Every time I say no they always seem to think: "Hey maybe if I ask one more fucking time he'll say yes!" but I'm just as stubborn as they are.

My question is has anyone else had to deal with this bullshit? And if so how did you get through to them and make them understand no means no?

Wiskey is nasty as shit (and I had some of the high dollar stuff. Worst decision I ever made.) Decent beer is great. And if you can taste alcohol in beer, you are probably gay. Sorry, it's just scientific, ya know? Drop some ice in that bitch, faygo.

jk. The best I've had are Samuel Adams lager, Anchor Steam, and Modelo Negra. Expensive as far as beers go, but they taste awesome. Gin and rum are decent as well. Sprite seems to take the bite out of gin. I don't know what the hell people are smoking to say that coke and rum is good. Neat rum for me.

<(((-<
2009-01-15, 02:04
Be persistent, don't give in to peer pressure (as cliche as it sounds).


I used to smoke weed like it was my fucking job, but quit entirely a few months ago. I realized I didn't really like getting baked, and the only reason I really did was cause everyone else did it.

People tried to get me to smoke weed all the time at first, but eventually gave up. My close friends are totally respectful about it.


At the same time though, I can see where your friends are coming from. I try and get my straight edge friends to drink with me because it's like, a bonding experience.

I say get a few close friends together and casually get drunk, no pressure, and see how it goes. It really is fucking awesome.

Numberjumbo
2009-01-15, 02:10
I don't drink much, my friends always try to get me to drink.

I was at this party last week, didn't drink. I got into a fight with a drunk guy, if I was drunk, I would have killed him without remorse. I take BJJ so I kept him under control, amused the crowd, etc.

R. Kelly
2009-01-15, 02:15
I don't drink much, my friends always try to get me to drink.

I was at this party last week, didn't drink. I got into a fight with a drunk guy, if I was drunk too, I would have killed him without remorse. I take BJJ so I kept him under control, amused the crowd, etc.

The most important question about that ordeal is did you get laid?

Seriously, getting drunk gives you a 354% of getting laid. By who and what gender is up to you, but someone is getting fucked.

ObsdianZ
2009-01-15, 02:53
Just carry around a bottle of beer in your hand. Everyone will see you're already "drinking" and won't pressure you.


*ObZ

cashual21
2009-01-15, 03:00
You are such a huge pussy.

The reason they probably want you to drink is so you don't stand around like such a fag not blending in with the party or talking to girls. Grow some balls and drink up nobody likes some prune-juice drinking boner to be at a party. Get drunk and focus 100% of your efforts on getting pussy or starting fights.

Goddamn you are a fag.

trumbly
2009-01-15, 03:08
If you don't like beer (I don't either) then take a small bottle of whatever whiskey you like and sip on it instead. If you are going to a party where you know there is drink--and you don't want to drink--why are you going to the party?

Star Wars Fan
2009-01-15, 03:29
If you are going to a party where you know there is drink--and you don't want to drink--why are you going to the party?

Social purposes/"a need to socialize"?

Fucking drunk chicks?


there's some ideas

ArgonPlasma2000
2009-01-15, 04:08
If you don't like beer (I don't either)

What kind have you tried?

monkmaster
2009-01-15, 05:28
I completely agree with the OP, however I love the taste of beer and whiskey and the effects it gives me. Me.
I honestly don't care about the whole going out to drink FOR THE PURPOSE OF macking on chicks -thing. That's what I define as douchebaggery.

A particular group of friends have always wanted me to try weed (I've always objected to drugs, I don't see the point of having to inject or smoke substances in order to achieve a different state of mind, I just find it unnatural). One night at a party they have enough of my 'no' answer and actually drag me into the bathroom and "force" me to get high. I forgave them as they were high as shit, and that I told them, is the god damn reason I don't do drugs.

They found their boundaries when they pushed mine. I had openings during the 'act' to seriously fuck their shit up, but figured five high bastards versus myself weren't very good odds.

If you can't beat them, join them; if only to prove your point.

The_Infamous_Mobb
2009-01-15, 05:56
quit being a pussy.



"social norms" only apply for people who don't know how to act in normal social situations.


if you don't enjoy drinking then don't hang out with people who drink. Its just pointless. go play some dungeons and dragons or some shit.

ObsdianZ
2009-01-15, 06:07
I completely agree with the OP, however I love the taste of beer and whiskey and the effects it gives me. Me.
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.
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I've always objected to drugs, I don't see the point of having to inject or smoke substances in order to achieve a different state of mind, I just find it unnatural


Contradiction much?


*ObZ

monkmaster
2009-01-15, 06:08
go play some dungeons and dragons or some shit.

*rolls initiative*

monkmaster
2009-01-15, 06:11
Contradiction much?


Well, I'd suggest drinking is much more natural than burning and inhaling. I mean, it's smoke for shit sakes. What good can come of having it your lungs?

Plus, alcohol just eases me down. All sleepy-like.
When I am told about drugs, how they 'expand your mind' and all that bullshit; that's what puts me off.

Da Black Ice
2009-01-15, 06:21
Well, I'd suggest drinking is much more natural than burning and inhaling. I mean, it's smoke for shit sakes. What good can come of having it your lungs?

Plus, alcohol just eases me down. All sleepy-like.
When I am told about drugs, how they 'expand your mind' and all that bullshit; that's what puts me off.

Contradiction much?


*ObZ

Yup, by the looks of it.

monkmaster
2009-01-15, 06:23
So I can't bash drugs and have a few drinks at the same time? Rats.

I suppose it all boils down to the user in the end.

Mitchell Y. McDeere
2009-01-15, 09:15
So I can't bash drugs and have a few drinks at the same time? Rats.


Unless you enjoy the guillotine.

Wait, that's 'let them eat cake' not 'having your cake and eating it too'.

squatch420
2009-01-15, 09:35
Apologies, but I didn't read anything but the initial post and the 3rd page. Anyways, my input on the situation is this, if you are too tempted to drink and they keep insisting, then seperate yourself from those people to avoid consumption. However, if you can turn down the alcohol no problem, just do so and turn into a broken record, "Nah, I don't need that to have a good time.", or whatever mantra comes to you. Even if they persist to try and drag you to their level, say the SAME shit over and over, they will eventually let it go and continue their drunken ways. Regarding the title of this post, it is COMPLETELY normal for friends/people to try and involve you in whatever inhibitor they are using/abusing so that they may feel better about themselves OR they may just be partiers(sp) and trying to spread the love. EITHER way stick to whatever guns you had prior to said party.

Good luck! :D
-Squatch

Revvy
2009-01-15, 09:40
[x] Whisky

imo.

Numberjumbo
2009-01-15, 09:45
The most important question about that ordeal is did you get laid?

Seriously, getting drunk gives you a 354% of getting laid. By who and what gender is up to you, but someone is getting fucked.No. They were ugly hoes from my school, fuck that shit.

Mik-O
2009-01-15, 10:07
High five on whiskey, OP

and i don't see why so many kids drink to get obscenley drunk. C'mon now, once you reach that perfect, socially savvy, everything kicks ass point, why go further?

<(((-<
2009-01-15, 10:23
So I can't bash drugs and have a few drinks at the same time? Rats.

I suppose it all boils down to the user in the end.

I think the point they're trying to make is that alcohol is no different then a drug, it changes your state of mind.

subri
2009-01-15, 12:50
how does getting drunk help your chances with the ladies?

It just makes people yell out random sentance fragments and wobble/fall all over the place. How does that make anyone look more attractive?

No thanks bro's. I think I'll stick to weed.

Bum Wax
2009-01-15, 13:37
Well, I'd suggest drinking is much more natural than burning and inhaling. I mean, it's smoke for shit sakes. What good can come of having it your lungs?

Plus, alcohol just eases me down. All sleepy-like.
When I am told about drugs, how they 'expand your mind' and all that bullshit; that's what puts me off.

Alcohol is a harmful poison and your body tries to remove it as quickly as possible but the effects are still pleasant

only pretentious people claim to use drugs to expand their minds; party people use drugs because they're fun as hell and make you feel amazing

brotherinarms
2009-01-15, 14:58
people use drugs because they're fun as hell and make you feel amazing


I agree 1+

cant b bothered
2009-01-15, 15:12
I know a few girls who hate alcohol so come party time, fill a vodka bottle with water. It allows them to act all uninhibited and blame their actions upon intoxication/"everyone else was doing it".

whocares123
2009-01-15, 17:22
You are such a huge pussy.

The reason they probably want you to drink is so you don't stand around like such a fag not blending in with the party or talking to girls. Grow some balls and drink up nobody likes some prune-juice drinking boner to be at a party. Get drunk and focus 100% of your efforts on getting pussy or starting fights.

Goddamn you are a fag.

Hahaha, yeah this is what I hate. I don't drink much, but on the rare times that I do, I like to just chug the first beer outright, laying a sort of foundation, drink the second beer kind of quickly, and then the third one slower. Then I should be relaxed enough, and I might have a fourth depending on how late it gets. But I just don't get the desire to get realllllly drunk. Everytime I've done that, it's been unpleasant, and you got to worry about throwing up. Who the fuck wants to throw up? I went like 5 years without ever being sick enough to throw up and then excess alcohol was introduced senior year of high school.

But yeah OP, I got to get at least a little bit tipsy around drunk people in order to fucking TOLERATE them. Otherwise they annoy me to no end and it's pointless to even try to talk to them. Try having just a couple of beers. You know, actually "drinking responsibly" like all the commercials say.

Glendora
2009-01-15, 18:04
..didn't read any of the posts, but...


Take a drink, faggot. You're probably a virgin too and think kissing is gross.

<(((-<
2009-01-15, 18:26
I know a few girls who hate alcohol so come party time, fill a vodka bottle with water. It allows them to act all uninhibited and blame their actions upon intoxication/"everyone else was doing it".


That's the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard. If I saw a couple of girls walking around pretending to be drunk they'd get knocked out.

Cpt Death and Destruction
2009-01-15, 18:43
OP is obviously too young to drink.

SHARP
2009-01-15, 20:42
how does getting drunk help your chances with the ladies?

It doesn't necessarily, but it's common knowledge that alcohol makes people (generally speaking, and in moderation) lose some of their inhibitions, and can act as the final little push they need to go hit on that chick they've never had the courage to go talk to out of fear of rejection.

And, I've read about a study where two groups of students were asked to rate the looks of a random group of people.
Test group A was sober, and test group B had had a couple o' pints or drinks.
Test group B generally rated higher than test group A, finding the people they were asked to rate, more attractive.
Personally I didn't need a study to tell me that, I've known about "beer goggles" since I was a teen, they're the reason you wake up, turn over to see who's next to you, and ask yourself -"Now why the fuck would do that!?", usually followed by the statement -"I'm never drinkin' again!"...

Oh, and you might want to think about who you're getting drunk, getting yourself drunk doesn't work nearly as well as gettin' the ladies drunk, but of course a gentleman wouldn't do that.
Besides, it's more fun reaping the rewards, if you've had to work for it. ;)

WritingANovel
2009-01-15, 22:57
Alcohol is a harmful poison and your body tries to remove it as quickly as possible but the effects are still pleasant

only pretentious people claim to use drugs to expand their minds; party people use drugs because they're fun as hell and make you feel amazing

bummie boi! do you really have me on ignore?

Pandoras Assassin
2009-01-15, 23:13
Most of my friends respect my decision to drink or not.

robyextreme
2009-01-15, 23:20
I have one friend whos always making sure everyones getting as drunk as he is, and thats usually several to a dozen shots through a night, or a few double shots of 151.

His such a loser, the last time I hung out with him he said it's cool to chill the night and not worry about catching the last train, then we got into an arguement because he was 2 shots ahead of me and then proceeded to leave me outside his house while he went to hunt for drugs.

Ever since then I've hated people the moment they peer pressure about it.

ArgonPlasma2000
2009-01-16, 03:17
Hahaha, yeah this is what I hate. I don't drink much, but on the rare times that I do, I like to just chug the first beer outright, laying a sort of foundation, drink the second beer kind of quickly, and then the third one slower. Then I should be relaxed enough, and I might have a fourth depending on how late it gets. But I just don't get the desire to get realllllly drunk. Everytime I've done that, it's been unpleasant, and you got to worry about throwing up. Who the fuck wants to throw up? I went like 5 years without ever being sick enough to throw up and then excess alcohol was introduced senior year of high school.

But yeah OP, I got to get at least a little bit tipsy around drunk people in order to fucking TOLERATE them. Otherwise they annoy me to no end and it's pointless to even try to talk to them. Try having just a couple of beers. You know, actually "drinking responsibly" like all the commercials say.

Yuck! If you have to chug your beers, you are doing something wrong. Seriously, if you can't appreciate the taste of good beer, you might as well just drunk neat vodka.

whocares123
2009-01-16, 03:49
Yuck! If you have to chug your beers, you are doing something wrong. Seriously, if you can't appreciate the taste of good beer, you might as well just drunk neat vodka.

Who the fuck said I was drinking good beer? I'm talking about fucking natural light at all these gay college parties, for the most part. Or bud light when I'm at home with friends.

But as I said, only the first one, to lay the "foundation."

Ed Lister
2009-01-16, 04:02
Who the fuck said I was drinking good beer? I'm talking about fucking natural light at all these gay college parties, for the most part. Or bud light when I'm at home with friends.

But as I said, only the first one, to lay the "foundation."

Yes, however, taking the analogy of a building, a poorly planned and hastily laid foundation will cause the entire structure that rests upon it to quickly become weak and unstable and eventually fall down - or in your case, spew.

A far better drinking foundation is a six pack, consumed casually, before taking on the big boys. This will let your body set itself up for a session. Trust us on this.

whocares123
2009-01-16, 04:04
I don't drink that much. A six pack would be how much I'd drink in an entire night. No spewing.

Generic Box Of Cookies
2009-01-16, 15:12
Getting drunk doesn't make you stupid. It just makes it easier for you to be stupid. I've been drunk to the point of falling down and being unable to form coherent words, and I still don't go babbling on about stupid shit or having sex with a stuffed animal in front of people like you expect wasted people to do. It's all about self-control.


It will fuck up your physical coordination and balance, but you can maintain your mind. Most people just choose not to. I say try it.

hypno
2009-01-16, 16:04
So I can't bash drugs and have a few drinks at the same time? Rats.

I suppose it all boils down to the user in the end.

not with your reasoning. Its much healthier to get high every day than get drunk every day.... And obviously this only applies to weed.


Get a stoner and a drinker and have them have an all night party. See which one hasnt banged a fat chick,puked all over the place, tried to start a fight, or has decided its completely possible to jump off the 2nd story balcony onto a single mattress safely...

monkmaster
2009-01-16, 20:36
not with your reasoning. Its much healthier to get high every day than get drunk every day.... And obviously this only applies to weed.


Get a stoner and a drinker and have them have an all night party. See which one hasnt banged a fat chick,puked all over the place, tried to start a fight, or has decided its completely possible to jump off the 2nd story balcony onto a single mattress safely...

I guess my deep-rooted animosity towards drugs comes form those bastards who had to make it a bad experience for me. Sorry if I offended you stoners. Or is there a more P-C term for it?

PS. I wouldn't advocate drinking so much as you've described there.