I have a question. Now in the second semester im taking physical science, and a philosophy class. I'm wondering, would you say philosophy is bullshit, or science does not allow variation, or whatnot? Or both are decent?

I wonder. discuss

Philosophy is nice, but it needs to catch up with science. The things we're discovering now say unimaginable things about our Universe, and there are some rather intelligent people who are just lacking the education.

Not to say that it's their fault -even the experts can't keep up with all the new information that keeps coming up - but it'd be nice to see what some of these amazing minds could come up with.

Because, frankly, this metaphysical drivel about whether or not God exists is getting dull.

" Since the scientific revolution headed by Newton and Galileo, philosophy has evolved from more arcane ideologies into more scientific and 'logical' ideas. This evolution of philosophy can be likened to the evolution of cavement to the men of today. These more 'scientific' ideologies have evolved from the 'idea' worlds of Plato to "measure[ing] the strength with which sub atomic particles interact with one another [1]" In a sense science and philosophy are now one in the same ".

Most people think that philosophy is an offshoot of science (as in the philosophy of science ), i like to argue that philosophy has become tangent to (metaphysics, not like ethics or anyting) science, i.e we no longer think the world is made up of 5 elements, but infact of very tiny bosons, leptons and quarks. (in that sense the philsophy of anaximander is now the science of Satyendra Nath Bose and Albert Einstein)

that is because ever since newton we have begun apply the scientific method to everything especially to philosophy, like how the universe operates (one of the principles of science). although it may seem that the term metaphysics, is antithetical to the natural sciences, metaphysics has always been grounded on logic , logic we have refined with the empircism and the scientific method, in that really there is no distinction between the two anymore.

although some concepts still remain in the 'meta' category (i.e is time a tangible concept or it is a man made contruct to organize our thoughts, ) but MOST if not all of the topics in metaphysics (which means after the phsyical) we now understand as physical, thus my conclusion. but even so the still unscientifically unprovable concepts (i.e what is existence, is no longer tackled with irrational 'idea worlds' or even the more rational but still irrational 'secondary and primary' qualities, but with more logical rigor' (if that makes sense)

also, i dont really understand what you by science does not allow variation, certainly science refutes the historical philsophy you are most likely learning. but you do not learn it for its truth claims, you learn it because its vital that you know how thought processes of mankind evolved (in a very linear fashion i might add)

Philosophy is a broad field and it includes science. Historically science was referred to as philosophy.

Philosophy is a broad field and it includes science. Historically science was referred to as philosophy.

beat me to it.

to approach one field with out knowledge of the other would be the same as trying to blow up a balloon with your ass. it might be possible but there are better ways to do it.

Philosophy is a broad field and it includes science. Historically science was referred to as philosophy.
Yeah he's right. To Aristotle, They were one in the same. To have science without Philosophy would be impossible. Without asking the questions in an abstract way, we would never have progressed to where we are.

I have a question. Now in the second semester im taking physical science, and a philosophy class. I'm wondering, would you say philosophy is bullshit, or science does not allow variation, or whatnot? Or both are decent?

I wonder. discuss




Both have there positives and negatives. I like science more since its based off facts of what you know and just takes what you don't know into possibilities.