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nostrumfiend
2009-01-15, 16:37
Can neodymium magnets disable sensormatic strips and/or RFID tags inside of boxes?

For example, say there was a serial number someone wanted to get that was inside of a box. Could someone rub the magnets all over the box for a minute or two and would that effectively ruin the security of the box and allow someone to leave without setting off the alarms at the entrance/exit of a store?


These are the kinds of tags I'm talking about.

http://www.timeaccessinc.com/eas/images/zldrs2.jpg
Sensormatic Strip

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/EPC-RFID-TAG.svg
RFID Tag

I'm just wondering if ordering some neodymium magnets online would be a wise investment.

If the magnets are capable of doing what I asked, what size, quantity, and strength would be required?

nostrumfiend
2009-01-15, 22:08
If you guys help me out I'd share the spoils with you :)

Orinux
2009-01-15, 22:44
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THAT!!!

Rubbing strong earth magnets on those tags will just increase your chances of getting the alarm off when you walk out of the door!
This is a REALLY bad idea!
I really don't know a good way to deactivate those besides just removing the damn thing and throw it away!
Good luck!

Orinux
2009-01-15, 23:02
If you guys help me out I'd share the spoils with you :)

Now share those spoils bitch! http://www.totse.com/community/images/icons/icon8.gif

nostrumfiend
2009-01-15, 23:56
How does that increase the chance of getting caught?

Orinux
2009-01-16, 00:39
How does that increase the chance of getting caught?

Ok lets say you legally purchased a item with a Sensormatic strip and the cashier deactivates it using the pad deactivator. So now you walk out of the store without setting the alarm off. If you run your neodymium magnet through the strip and walk in the store with it you will set those fucking alarms off.
Get it now?

Green Tea is Good
2009-01-16, 02:24
No. What the fuck are you on about??!?!?

Rush2Lush
2009-01-16, 02:24
Ok lets say you legally purchased a item with a Sensormatic strip and the cashier deactivates it using the pad deactivator. So now you walk out of the store without setting the alarm off. If you run your neodymium magnet through the strip and walk in the store with it you will set those fucking alarms off.
Get it now?

I am pretty sure that is not how RF tags work. Demagnetizing a tag wont turn the magnet into a tag.

Orinux
2009-01-16, 02:55
I am pretty sure that is not how RF tags work. Demagnetizing a tag wont turn the magnet into a tag.

Nah that's how it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYwQApDzHc&feature=related

Kipkay is NEVER wrong!!!

fishmonger
2009-01-16, 03:19
I know tags can be RE-activated by a powerful magnet but not the other way around. Besides if the magnet was powerful enough to activate the tag it could easily screw up the item if it is electronic.

nostrumfiend
2009-01-16, 16:24
I know tags can be RE-activated by a powerful magnet but not the other way around. Besides if the magnet was powerful enough to activate the tag it could easily screw up the item if it is electronic.

I don't care about the item inside of the package. It's what's on the item I care about (serials).