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Rounder
May 17th, 2005, 09:10 AM
Who's an expert at growing them ?? I've never had much luck. My Bell Pepper plants seldom grow large, and they only produce a few small peppers. Suggestions for improvement would be appreciated.
Screaming Peacock
May 17th, 2005, 03:10 PM
There are four things that usually stunt their growth and performance.
1- Not enough water.
2- Not enough sun.
3- Soil packed in too hard around roots. (Common in areas with heavy clay soil.)
4-Early damage to the plant by critters.
Other than that, peppers require plenty of warmth.
Good luck! Because of this cold spring we are having here in zone six, my pepper seeds aren't even touching the soil until June 1st.
Rounder
May 17th, 2005, 08:30 PM
There are four things that usually stunt their growth and performance.
1- Not enough water.
2- Not enough sun.
3- Soil packed in too hard around roots. (Common in areas with heavy clay soil.)
4-Early damage to the plant by critters.
Other than that, peppers require plenty of warmth.
Good luck! Because of this cold spring we are having here in zone six, my pepper seeds aren't even touching the soil until June 1st.
Thanks Peacock. I set out a dozen today here in S.W. Missouri. And will plant another half dozen tomorrow. Yeah, I've got some heavy clay soil down about 6-8 inches or so. So this time, I used my post hole digger and dug down deep (more than a foot) inside a radius of l8 inches or so. Maybe that'll help.
I never have trouble with critters, though there's lots of rabbits around. 5-6 jumping around in sight is not uncommon. I think it's because I use lots of 7-dust.
Sounds like you're in the northeast, huh? Short growing season there. But I understand there lots of good furtile soil for gardens up that way. I grow one every year. (area is 75 x 24 feet - but only 5 rows this year - 75 feet long). It's a must for me. Mental therapy, ya know. Gets my mind off the kikes and koons for short periods, anyway.
Tomatoes, cucumbers, watermellons, canteloupe, turnips, radishes, cabbages, bell peppers, hot peppers, and squash are my choices this year. (My squash and cucumbers came up today - what a thrill !!)
Good luck with your garden, and thanks for the tips.
Sean Martin
May 17th, 2005, 10:57 PM
I will tell you what I will do there Glenn, I will tell you how to grow bell peppers bigger than basketballs if you tell me how to grow cabbages so big you have to cut them in half to fit them in the truck. Whatchasay?
Actually as of this writing I planted seeds for yellow and red bell peppers and so far 128 of them have sprouted. I am going to separate them and hopefully have a huge crop this year. I had 4 pepper plants last year that produced about 25 baseball-sized bell peppers. I watered them every night around midnight and hoed them only once, don't water them during daylight n matter how dry they get it will scald them. I put mulch from my chipper-shredder around them when they got about a foot tall. Also you may want to stake them.
Now my cabbage came to a little over the size of a baseball also. This is not good for cabbage. It had an exceptional flavor but not enough of it. However it was tender and made some out of this world coleslaw.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 18th, 2005, 10:52 AM
my mother in law grew some hot peppers last year that did pretty well. I dont know what variety. serrano peppers however are about $2 a pound which seems expensive to me. I would like to grow some as I cook lots of quasi-Mexican food for myself. I like food hot.
kenslilwhiteprincess
May 18th, 2005, 11:23 AM
My Grandma told me to buy books of matches and cut the match heads off and place in the hole you will be planting the peppers cover those with some dirt then plant your plant, I guess the sulfer helps :)
Sean Martin
May 18th, 2005, 12:23 PM
my mother in law grew some hot peppers last year that did pretty well. I dont know what variety. serrano peppers however are about $2 a pound which seems expensive to me. I would like to grow some as I cook lots of quasi-Mexican food for myself. I like food hot.
Hot Peppers such as cayenne require very dry weather, I don’t even water mine and we had enough last year for 3-3 foot strings and all we could eat through the season this from 4 plants. This year I planted Jalapeno also but when I planted Habenero I discovered the ones in very dry sandy ground did well while the ones in rich well-irrigated ground withered and died. I grow my hot peppers in ground so dry and barren weeds won’t even grow.
So the rule of thumb is hot peppers need dry barren ground (I guess that is why they are so popular in Mexico) while bell peppers need rich damp ground.
RE: White Princess
You can get the same results by mixing a little sulfur in your fertilizer. If you live I the Appalachian Mountains you can go get some fresh saltpeter under rock cliffs and it will help your garden grow. We use sulfur, saltpeter mixed in our rain barrel so we have vitamin packed water even in the dry times.
The Jews are trying to tax rainwater from rain barrels BTW there is a thread on VNNF somewhere about that.
RE: Glenn Miller
Something else I didn’t tell you if you do water your plants during the day if you use cold hose water it will kill them. Use warm water that has been sitting outside all day. We have buckets we leave our water in for this purpose. When we water our plants during the day the water is warm and doesn’t shock the plants with a temperature change. Rainwater is the best. We have a barrel and several 5-gallon buckets we keep full.
Rounder
May 18th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Hot Peppers such as cayenne require very dry weather, I don’t even water mine and we had enough last year for 3-3 foot strings and all we could eat through the season this from 4 plants. This year I planted Jalapeno also but when I planted Habenero I discovered the ones in very dry sandy ground did well while the ones in rich well-irrigated ground withered and died. I grow my hot peppers in ground so dry and barren weeds won’t even grow.
So the rule of thumb is hot peppers need dry barren ground (I guess that is why they are so popular in Mexico) while bell peppers need rich damp ground.
RE: White Princess
You can get the same results by mixing a little sulfur in your fertilizer. If you live I the Appalachian Mountains you can go get some fresh saltpeter under rock cliffs and it will help your garden grow. We use sulfur, saltpeter mixed in our rain barrel so we have vitamin packed water even in the dry times.
The Jews are trying to tax rainwater from rain barrels BTW there is a thread on VNNF somewhere about that.
RE: Glenn Miller
Something else I didn’t tell you if you do water your plants during the day if you use cold hose water it will kill them. Use warm water that has been sitting outside all day. We have buckets we leave our water in for this purpose. When we water our plants during the day the water is warm and doesn’t shock the plants with a temperature change. Rainwater is the best. We have a barrel and several 5-gallon buckets we keep full.
Mighty interesting and insightful, Doc. Nothing in your advice that I can find fault with.
I'd never thought about the colder water from garden hoses. But what you say about it makes good sense. And hauling buckets of warm water will do my wife and young'uns good. See what a thoughtful husband and father I am ???
Rounder
May 18th, 2005, 07:14 PM
My Grandma told me to buy books of matches and cut the match heads off and place in the hole you will be planting the peppers cover those with some dirt then plant your plant, I guess the sulfer helps :)
Glad you said that White Princess. Matter of fact, I've heard that before but forgot. I'll give it a shot. I've already set the plants out, but I can stick a match head alongside each, several inches down.
Welcome to VNN, BTW. Whatcha think of our tabloid newspaper (already printed in 41,000 copies I might add) ??? You can read the entire last edition on govnn.com.
kenslilwhiteprincess
May 18th, 2005, 11:25 PM
I looked at a few articles and want to read more.
Thank you for welcoming me.
Let me know how your peppers do.
Gott
May 19th, 2005, 07:57 AM
I don't have a lot of luck with regular bell peppers, they come out small and usually not the bright colors of the supermarket ones. That could be because this is the north east and it's not really hot long enough (peppers originate in India, I think). But, I usually do ok with eggplant and very well with tomatoes, and they like it hot as well.
Hot peppers though, are really easy and fun to grow. They are usually terrific looking plants as well and on the small side.
Last year, I had both bell and hot together in a 40ft raised bed with drip irrigation (if you have a big garden a low pressure drip irrigation system is perhaps the best investment you can make - and considering everything, they are not that expensive - www.dripworks.com (http://www.dripworks.com).)
This year, I'm going to solve the giving them too much water, and also space problem, by planting all the hot peppers in pots rather than in the ground. That way, I can even bring a few indoods when fall arrives.
I've been buying packets of mixed hot peppers and they are fun to grow as you don't know what you are going to get and the types are often quite different from each other. The only potential problem is that some are mildly hot and some are atomically hot and there is no way (for me, anyway) to really know outside of biting into them. That's quite an experience with the really hot ones!
I sent away for a few 'weird' herb seed packets this year - stevia is one - 200 times sweeter than sugar and no calories. You can grind up the dried leaves to use as a substitute, supposedly. Something named by the seed company as 'toothache plant' is another. I tried chewing on a leave from each, and no kidding, they perform as advertised. The toothache one is really odd as nothing happens at first and then, your mouth goes numb for a little while.
Rounder
May 19th, 2005, 08:55 AM
I looked at a few articles and want to read more.
Thank you for welcoming me.
Let me know how your peppers do.
You're welcome and will do. Now go jump into VNN debates with both feet with honesty, and an open mind. No one has all the answers to the plight of our people, so don't be intimidated by the "know-it-alls".
(Rounder is pretty close, though - har har)
Rounder
May 19th, 2005, 09:06 AM
I don't have a lot of luck with regular bell peppers, they come out small and usually not the bright colors of the supermarket ones. That could be because this is the north east and it's not really hot long enough (peppers originate in India, I think). But, I usually do ok with eggplant and very well with tomatoes, and they like it hot as well.
Hot peppers though, are really easy and fun to grow. They are usually terrific looking plants as well and on the small side.
Last year, I had both bell and hot together in a 40ft raised bed with drip irrigation (if you have a big garden a low pressure drip irrigation system is perhaps the best investment you can make - and considering everything, they are not that expensive - www.dripworks.com (http://www.dripworks.com/).)
This year, I'm going to solve the giving them too much water, and also space problem, by planting all the hot peppers in pots rather than in the ground. That way, I can even bring a few indoods when fall arrives.
I've been buying packets of mixed hot peppers and they are fun to grow as you don't know what you are going to get and the types are often quite different from each other. The only potential problem is that some are mildly hot and some are atomically hot and there is no way (for me, anyway) to really know outside of biting into them. That's quite an experience with the really hot ones!
I sent away for a few 'weird' herb seed packets this year - stevia is one - 200 times sweeter than sugar and no calories. You can grind up the dried leaves to use as a substitute, supposedly. Something named by the seed company as 'toothache plant' is another. I tried chewing on a leave from each, and no kidding, they perform as advertised. The toothache one is really odd as nothing happens at first and then, your mouth goes numb for a little while.
I see you're an avid gardener. Me too. It brings back fond memories of my youth growing up on a farm - "The old folks back home", so to speak. And I believe there's something unique in White men that makes us love working the soil and watching things grow from our labors.
I also believe it's wise here to listen closely to Doc's "tips". That ole Redneck knows what he's talking about on the subject of gardening.
Good luck with your's.
Hey Doc, since you were so impressed with the size of my cabbages, what do you think about the fish I caught that was so big, the river dropped two feet when I pulled him out of the water ??
Rounder
May 19th, 2005, 01:08 PM
Pssstt....Hey Doc. I've got a major problem here. I'm being compelled by forces beyond my control to resort to an alternative garden irrigation scheme. After instructing my wife and young'uns that from now til harvest time, they'd have to tote buckets and buckets of heavy sun-warmed water to my garden, I was met with long and loud howls and screams of protest. "Flat ain't gonna do it", they all said. They even suggested (if you can believe this) that I tote the water, myself since it's my garden.
Course, Lord knows I've never been a shurker of heavy, manual labor but I'm convinced it'd take up too much of my pondering time solving the world's jewish problem. Therefore, me toting a-a-a-a-a-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l those heavy buckets of water from now thru September is just out of the question.
Now then, with that little bit of wisdom impressed upon you, I'll ask for your opinion of my Plan B. Here's what I'm a gonna do. Instead of sprinkling the plants themselves with colder garden hose water, I'll just sprinkle the ground underneath - around the plants' stems, without getting the upper parts wet at all. That way, the colder water will have warmed up sufficiently by the time it reaches the roots, that no stress will be caused to the plants.
Now tell me what you think of that stroke of my genius.
Screaming Peacock
May 20th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Rounder, why not just leave the buckets near the pepper plants and fill them with water from the hose every morning. By evening, you'll have nice warm water for those prissy little peppers!
Like AE, I am hoping to grow some hot peppers for Mexican dishes. I've got a little Mexican garden with herbs like cilantro growing there. I thought about tucking some lettuce in as well, but decided that was too low class a joke, even for racist meanies like us. ;)
Toni
May 20th, 2005, 01:11 PM
Besides putting a few plants in the ground, I'm going to put my peppers, habnero, jalapeño, serrano, cayenne in a planter - a huge barrel - not only for decoration but to give me more garden space. I'm in the suburbs, starting to run out of room for my crops.
We drilled holes in the bottom of a barrel and instead of filling it all up with just soil; we put packaging peanuts on the bottom to help with drainage and the weight of the barrel.
I think it’s going to be a hot summer - my internal woman feeling tells me so.
Peppers should thrive this year. Fingers crossed.
Took Doc's advice about the bell peppers. Got them in the ground yesterday.
Rounder
May 20th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Rounder, why not just leave the buckets near the pepper plants and fill them with water from the hose every morning. By evening, you'll have nice warm water for those prissy little peppers!
ROUNDER: Brilliant deduction in logic there, Screaming Peacock. Used that highly cognitive Aryan brain of your's, huh ?? Well, I would have thought of that myself, eventually. I have 5 rows of garden, each 75 feet long. So I'm still gonna have a whole lot of heavy water to tote to water all that, no matter where I situate the water buckets.
Like AE, I am hoping to grow some hot peppers for Mexican dishes. I've got a little Mexican garden with herbs like cilantro growing there. I thought about tucking some lettuce in as well, but decided that was too low class a joke, even for racist meanies like us. ;)
ROUNDER: Mexican dishes !!!??? You mean as in Wet-back dishes !!!??? You and A.E. go wash your mouths out with soap, rat now. That's high treason - giving aid and comfort to the enemy. I'll bet Doc don't eat no wet-back stuff.
Screaming Peacock
May 20th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Rounder, were you joking? Do you season any of your food with pepper? You know, the ordinary black pepper most of us have on our kitchen table? Well, throw it out and wash your mouth, buddy. That's dothead food you are eating there.
The fact of the matter is that many of our foods originated somewhere other than when our ancestors lived. Some of our menfolk travelled far, far away from home to bring us these foods and spices that make our meals more interesting. It isn't foreign food that bothers me, it's uncivilized behavior and rampant invasion that hurts.
Rounder
May 20th, 2005, 07:36 PM
Rounder, were you joking? Do you season any of your food with pepper? You know, the ordinary black pepper most of us have on our kitchen table? Well, throw it out and wash your mouth, buddy. That's dothead food you are eating there.
The fact of the matter is that many of our foods originated somewhere other than when our ancestors lived. Some of our menfolk travelled far, far away from home to bring us these foods and spices that make our meals more interesting. It isn't foreign food that bothers me, it's uncivilized behavior and rampant invasion that hurts.
Good point, Screaming Peacock. I was just BS'ing. But I do look down on those who eat at Mexican or Chineze restaurants.
Sean Martin
May 20th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Nope I don’t eat that junk, but I do have a vice. I love Italian food. I know being a German it should be bratwurst and fine ale but I do love Italian cuisine.
About toting the water, like the above post said leave the buckets by your garden and fill em up in the evening or morning when you use them. I water my plants at night and dad waters his in the morning, I think I tried watering the plants on the ground once I forget what happened but I do know we have been heating the water or watering them in the evening every since, so I assume it didn’t work for some reason.
I just counted my bell pepper plants and I have 380 of them already sprouted. I wasn’t expecting the seeds to sprout. I was wrong. If all goes well we will have something in the neighborhood of 8,000 plants in the ground this year. I am training right now to hopefully start a nursery and sell the plants I sprout.
About the beaner fixins, my favorite dollar store that sells good candy took my old-fashioned candy isle and it is now all spic cuisine. The bottles and boxes are in Spanish. Their posters outside are half Spanish. There was even 3 spics walking down the street today. I don’t get out much during farming season but I have noticed the town is getting darker and darker today.
People that contribute to spic cooking are funding the destruction of their race, unless they cook their food at home. But we are white and by living white involves not partaking in mud cultures.
I'll bet Doc don't eat no wet-back stuff.
Rounder
May 21st, 2005, 10:11 PM
Nope I don’t eat that junk, but I do have a vice. I love Italian food. I know being a German it should be bratwurst and fine ale but I do love Italian cuisine.
About toting the water, like the above post said leave the buckets by your garden and fill em up in the evening or morning when you use them. I water my plants at night and dad waters his in the morning, I think I tried watering the plants on the ground once I forget what happened but I do know we have been heating the water or watering them in the evening every since, so I assume it didn’t work for some reason.
I just counted my bell pepper plants and I have 380 of them already sprouted. I wasn’t expecting the seeds to sprout. I was wrong. If all goes well we will have something in the neighborhood of 8,000 plants in the ground this year. I am training right now to hopefully start a nursery and sell the plants I sprout.
About the beaner fixins, my favorite dollar store that sells good candy took my old-fashioned candy isle and it is now all spic cuisine. The bottles and boxes are in Spanish. Their posters outside are half Spanish. There was even 3 spics walking down the street today. I don’t get out much during farming season but I have noticed the town is getting darker and darker today.
People that contribute to spic cooking are funding the destruction of their race, unless they cook their food at home. But we are white and by living white involves not partaking in mud cultures.
Thanks Gott, Screaming Peacock, Toni and Doc Martin for the informative comments. May you all grow green thumbs.
Doc I would challenge you to a gardening contest. But you know what notorious "stretchers" us rednecks are when it comes to fishing and gardening. You'd never admit defeat anyway. And I'll bet you'd cheat by using miracle grow.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 22nd, 2005, 12:26 AM
Good point, Screaming Peacock. I was just BS'ing. But I do look down on those who eat at Mexican or Chineze restaurants.
Reminds me of a nice Chink restaurant I went to in Chicago called PF Chang's that had all White girls working the tables. Except I'll bet all the cooks were Mexicans like every other restaurant in Chicago. Nary a gook in the whole joint however.
I had some lamb believe it or not, stir fried with some veggies maybe green onions, some sweet soy sauce, and sesame seeds. It was great.
When it comes to food, I am completely promiscuous. I will eat any cuisine and I have. Nastiest stuff I ever ate was NATOH, this rotten soybean stuff the Japs think is a "delicacy." Worse than kim chee by far.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 22nd, 2005, 12:29 AM
so far my lettuce looks great, my red onion bulbs have all sprouted, my shallots havent, my chive seeds have sprouted and my yellow onion seeds havent. that's all I planted in this the first year of my "hate garden." I know, it's a small start compared to you farmers but hey, a hate garden has to start somewhere right?
Rounder
May 22nd, 2005, 04:15 AM
Reminds me of a nice Chink restaurant I went to in Chicago called PF Chang's that had all White girls working the tables. Except I'll bet all the cooks were Mexicans like every other restaurant in Chicago. Nary a gook in the whole joint however.
I had some lamb believe it or not, stir fried with some veggies maybe green onions, some sweet soy sauce, and sesame seeds. It was great.
When it comes to food, I am completely promiscuous. I will eat any cuisine and I have. Nastiest stuff I ever ate was NATOH, this rotten soybean stuff the Japs think is a "delicacy." Worse than kim chee by far.
Strictly meat and tater man myself, A.E. But my wife and couple of my young'uns sneak around behind my back and eat that gook crap from time to time (over my loud objections, I might add). My wife's a city gal - yankee from Chicago, and like you, will eat almost anything.
And BTW, I'll bet you didn't eat all those onions BEFORE your wife agreed to marry you. Huh ?? Onions don't exactly make your breath kissing sweet, ya know.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 23rd, 2005, 05:44 PM
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And BTW, I'll bet you didn't eat all those onions BEFORE your wife agreed to marry you. Huh ?? Onions don't exactly make your breath kissing sweet, ya know.
Luckily my wife likes onions and garlic too. LOL
I drink lots of water that helps.
I'm going to try some of my lettuce and mescalin geens this week it's pretty thick now. I dont know if I should start at the end of the row or pluck it out every few inches or so, what do you think?
Rounder
May 23rd, 2005, 08:47 PM
Luckily my wife likes onions and garlic too. LOL
I drink lots of water that helps.
I'm going to try some of my lettuce and mescalin geens this week it's pretty thick now. I dont know if I should start at the end of the row or pluck it out every few inches or so, what do you think?
I don't think it makes any difference, A.E. Pluck those "suckers" out and enjoy.
Thinning out plants gives other plants more room and soil nutrients, ya know.
BTW, I've got one awesome garden going this year. 5 rows, each 75 feet long. I'm thinking of challenging Doc Martin for VNN's 2005 "Farmer Jim" award. Do you think the Doc will play fair ? He's a sly and cunning ole Redneck and bears a considerable amount of suspicions.
Good luck with your own garden efforts.
Sean Martin
May 23rd, 2005, 10:44 PM
Yeah I have got a small garden like that I putter around in. Right now I have 4 gardens the biggest is 3 acres and the smallest one is about 120x120. If I can get seeding down this year and can seed my plants cheap enough so I don’t have to buy plants, next year hopefully I am planning on planting about 20 acres and then 40 the year after.
I think we are going to put out somewhere between 6 and 8,000 plants this year. I have tomato plants hanging upside down around my porch. I am doing a lot of experimental gardening this year preparing for a hopeful move next year to the farm.
My dad owns a 300 acre farm he is planning to move the family to.
Next time you family complains about toting some water tell them they could come live with the D.O.C and water about 50 acres.
BTW, I've got one awesome garden going this year. 5 rows, each 75 feet long.
Rounder
May 24th, 2005, 04:24 AM
Yeah I have got a small garden like that I putter around in. Right now I have 4 gardens the biggest is 3 acres and the smallest one is about 120x120. If I can get seeding down this year and can seed my plants cheap enough so I don’t have to buy plants, next year hopefully I am planning on planting about 20 acres and then 40 the year after.
I think we are going to put out somewhere between 6 and 8,000 plants this year. I have tomato plants hanging upside down around my porch. I am doing a lot of experimental gardening this year preparing for a hopeful move next year to the farm.
My dad owns a 300 acre farm he is planning to move the family to.
Next time you family complains about toting some water tell them they could come live with the D.O.C and water about 50 acres.
You're way out of my league Doc, when it comes to farming. Good luck with those 6,000-8,000 plants. Have you considered trying an early crop of watermellons. Sugar Babies make in 70 days, compared to others than require 95-100. Seems to me if a fellow used a small "green-house" for early planting of Sugar Babies, then transplanted them in the fields when the weather became right, he'd have some really early watermellons to sell locally at large food stores in WVA. Say for about $2.00-$2.50 apiece, wholesale. You could haul them to large food stores by the truck loads and make a "killing".
How's that idea grab ya ???
Alex Linder
May 24th, 2005, 05:41 AM
We've had a washout here in NEMO. Only 4 of my 66 potatoes came up. The rest are probably rotted out from rain. I'm going to plant a couple dozen more, see if they take, once the soil dries. The strawberries don't care whether it rains or snow or drouts, they're going tall and wall to wall. If I have another daughter, I may name her Strawberry Linder, so impressed am I by these super-tough, super-sweet plants. There are already some sizable berries. Unfortunately, I don't hit the plot daily, so the birds are going to get most of the fruit, I suspect.
Most of my one row of musk melons came up, and carrots, too. Asparagus comes up almost daily -- you guys ought to try that. no work involved. It grows like bamboo, just shoots up spears every couple days. You break 'em off and eat 'em, they're great.
I kept six tomatoes under plastic milk cartons, only removed yesterday. The rabbits may have snipped them off, going to check when i mow this morning. Going to put up some sticks with danglies to scare the rabbits and birds. They sort of work. Too many rabbits around, they'll take their tax.
Am real disappoitnd about the potatoes, as they were grown from killer stock, my seven softball sized taters from '04.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 24th, 2005, 11:28 AM
.......Asparagus comes up almost daily -- you guys ought to try that. no work involved. It grows like bamboo, just shoots up spears every couple days. You break 'em off and eat 'em, they're great.
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at my old house I had a one acre plot that the previous owner had cultivated asparagus in. I never did any work to maintain this other than go out there and pick and eat and then mow it over once or twice a year. there were tons of weeds out there and it never stopped the asparagus. never watered it, nothing. just pick and eat and ignore.
and fresh asparagus beats the tar out of store bought. snapped off in the field ours sometimes tasted nutty, if you know what I mean.
it would sprout late april then come up in may thickly. by end of June it would all have gone to seed however so there was a limited time frame to have at it.
I like grilled asparagus. I brush it with olive oil and then grill it. add salt and pepper. Sometimes I make an aioli to go with it: nothing more than mayonaise with lemon juice and garlic added, then drizzel it over the stuff.
My wife used to make a nice egg ham and asparagus strata (layered casserole). Then we would also freeze some and give it to friends and neighbors.
Sean Martin
May 24th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Way ahead of you Miller, I already got plenty of Sugar Babies in the ground. Also around 400 Red/Yellow Bell pepper plants will be ready to go in the ground in a week or so.
Here is a picture of some my bell pepper plants I sprouted from seeds and a picture of one of my 4 gardens.
I had to edit two vehicles out of the garden pic but that should give you an idea of how big it is. It is separated into two parts I am planting tobacco in the first one. The farthest one has other things planted. Each row is over 150 feet. I think there is about 10-15 rows.
If I get to move I am going to build a green house. I have several books on the subject and I think I can build one for around $150.
I got a full sized pickup truck I plan on loading down. I am not sure yet whether I will try to sell to the stores, sell direct beside the road or just can a bunch of stuff. I know canning is womans stuff but I can can vegetables as good as any woman.
Garden
http://tinypic.com/5cybti
These are all pepper plants, and that is not all I have.
http://tinypic.com/5cyc0i
You're way out of my league Doc, when it comes to farming. Good luck with those 6,000-8,000 plants. Have you considered trying an early crop of watermellons. Sugar Babies make in 70 days, compared to others than require 95-100. Seems to me if a fellow used a small "green-house" for early planting of Sugar Babies, then transplanted them in the fields when the weather became right, he'd have some really early watermellons to sell locally at large food stores in WVA. Say for about $2.00-$2.50 apiece, wholesale. You could haul them to large food stores by the truck loads and make a "killing".
How's that idea grab ya ???
Alex Linder
May 26th, 2005, 09:54 AM
what's an aoili?
you guys have some awesome gardens; doc's got some great-looking land. i would like to try it on that scale sometime.
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 26th, 2005, 11:10 AM
what's an aoili?
http://www.beyond.fr/food/aioli.html
Aïoli is a Provencal garlic sauce (the name Aïoli is Provençal) used, like a mayonaise, on a variety of dishes, including boiled potatoes, fish, and cold lamb.
Recipe (6 servings)
garlic (10 cloves)
olive oil (1/2 lt.) raw egg yolk (1)
cooked egg yolk (1)
salt
In a mortar, crush the garlic into a fine paste. Add the egg yolks and salt lightly. Mix in the olive oil very slowly until you obtain a smooth paste.
We've personally only made this in small quantities, without much measurement. Some of the recipes we've seen list other quantities:
- (4 people) 6 cloves garlic; 1 egg yolk; 1/2 litre olive oil
- (6 people) 12 cloves garlic; 2 egg yolks; 1/2 litre olive oil
Antiochus Epiphanes
May 26th, 2005, 11:16 AM
I don't think it makes any difference, A.E. Pluck those "suckers" out and enjoy.
Thinning out plants gives other plants more room and soil nutrients, ya know.
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My wife and I enjoyed the "first fruits" of my garden last night. (I couldnt get my kids to partake). I plucked out an assortment of mescalun greens and the lettuce variety I planted. The greens had a much stronger flavor than what one gets in the "salad packs" in the supermarket, and the lettuce I planted was delicate and slightly sweet. We ate this with a prepared spinach dressing that I guessed would be suitable. I think I will try the same tonight, but with some chevre cheese medallions rolled in bread crumbs and then given a quick deep-frying. Anyhow this was very satisfying.
I have some nice thick NY strips from the butcher waiting for grill attention too. It's a glorious thing to have a little something from your own patch of dirt with supper.
Rounder
May 26th, 2005, 01:23 PM
My wife and I enjoyed the "first fruits" of my garden last night. (I couldnt get my kids to partake). I plucked out an assortment of mescalun greens and the lettuce variety I planted. The greens had a much stronger flavor than what one gets in the "salad packs" in the supermarket, and the lettuce I planted was delicate and slightly sweet. We ate this with a prepared spinach dressing that I guessed would be suitable. I think I will try the same tonight, but with some chevre cheese medallions rolled in bread crumbs and then given a quick deep-frying. Anyhow this was very satisfying.
I have some nice thick NY strips from the butcher waiting for grill attention too. It's a glorious thing to have a little something from your own patch of dirt with supper.
Whew, A.E. !! You sure are good to yo sef. But do you deserve it ?? And all those onions and garlic you eat ought to be grounds for divorce - from your wife's point of view, that is. (just kidding).
Bet you never tried chittlins, hog's head with black-eyed peas, or fat back with collard greens and corn bread, did ya ?? See ?? You yankee fellars jes don't know what's good.
Hey Doc, I must need thicker glasses cause all I saw in your garden was dirt and lots of little rocks on the side of a mountain. How do you control soil erosion ?? And ain't you scared your tractor will roll over on ya ? I prefer good ole Carolina and Missouri flat land for farming, myself.
Rounder
May 26th, 2005, 01:38 PM
Way ahead of you Miller, I already got plenty of Sugar Babies in the ground. Also around 400 Red/Yellow Bell pepper plants will be ready to go in the ground in a week or so.
Here is a picture of some my bell pepper plants I sprouted from seeds and a picture of one of my 4 gardens.
I had to edit two vehicles out of the garden pic but that should give you an idea of how big it is. It is separated into two parts I am planting tobacco in the first one. The farthest one has other things planted. Each row is over 150 feet. I think there is about 10-15 rows.
If I get to move I am going to build a green house. I have several books on the subject and I think I can build one for around $150.
I got a full sized pickup truck I plan on loading down. I am not sure yet whether I will try to sell to the stores, sell direct beside the road or just can a bunch of stuff. I know canning is womans stuff but I can can vegetables as good as any woman.
Garden
http://tinypic.com/5cybti
These are all pepper plants, and that is not all I have.
http://tinypic.com/5cyc0i
Yeah, that's a sizeable plot for a garden, Doc. And you're saving lots of money by growing your own pepper plants.
You're gonna grow tobacco too, huh? Big money in tobacco. Hows about send me some when it's cured out. I'll get one of those cigarette rollers and my wife'll have something constructive to do after she finishes her 16 hour work day - rolling me some cigarettes and saving me some money. (just kidding, girls)
I'm afraid I'll beat you badly with my garden, though. I'm mighty good at it. You mountain boys can't hold a candle to us Carolina rednecks, when it comes to gardening. (And we don't cheat with miracle grow). I'll post a few photos of my garden in coupla months, if you promise not to get mad with jealosy at me.
Sean Martin
May 28th, 2005, 04:44 AM
Re: Glenn Miller
You have accused me of not eating cornbread. Sir I will have you know thems fighting words. I went and called my momma and told her to call you and tell you all the hateful things my religion prohibits me from saying.
Just so you know I can make cornbread so good it will make you stand up and beg for buttermilk.
Just for that I must inform all the Yankees that Black eyed peas and collard greens is the foods of choice for groids. It is called soul food. There is even a groid musical group called “Black Eyed Peas”.
Ain’t chittlens soul food also? I knew one when I lived up north I know what they eat.
We take a couple hogs to butcher every year. I have tried hog’s head, I didn’t like it. My uncle could eat a whole one by himself. I did grill some ribs and steaks today you wouldn’t believe.
Now I don’t think those Carolina boys can beat us farming. As I recall it was ya’ll that had to ship the groids in to help you farm. All we got was 40 acres and a mule. I can’t remember any slaves in West Virginia. Not to many immigrant workers either.
Nope there is no money in tobacco. You government has seen to that. They bought our base that would supply us with around $2,000 a year for a hefty ten-year payout of $200 a year. All the tobacco will be sent to India just as they did with Cotton (except they sent that business somewhere else) in the 30’s-40’s. Can’t sell it now you have to give it away. It is a federal crime to sell tobacco beyond what your base carries, and since ours is sold dad is going to chew it himself. Of course that is a money saver there.
Now that garden is so big those plants are almost a foot high but they are so far away you can’t see them.
Actually that field is quite level, it is just the angle I took the picture. I am not afraid the tractor will roll over on me. I accidentally drove it off a 20-foot cliff once, after that I lost most of my fear. Someone tried to buy it yesterday. Right in the middle of planting season someone wants to buy my tractor. I have another one but it isn’t as big as the main tractor. That is like trying to buy your rifle at the beginning of hunting season, or buying your fishing rod at the beginning of fishing season. See what kind of people I have to put up with here, at least they are white.
Well it is 5:30 am and I have to go work on a house. Then garden till the wee hours of the morning and then preach on Sunday. I am probably the only person that says TGIM, Thank Goodness Itz Monday. I usually take either that or Tuesday off.
BTW Glenn I didn’t think you would smoke.
Rounder
May 28th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Re: Glenn Miller
You have accused me of not eating cornbread. Sir I will have you know thems fighting words. I went and called my momma and told her to call you and tell you all the hateful things my religion prohibits me from saying.
Just so you know I can make cornbread so good it will make you stand up and beg for buttermilk.
Just for that I must inform all the Yankees that Black eyed peas and collard greens is the foods of choice for groids. It is called soul food. There is even a groid musical group called “Black Eyed Peas”.
Ain’t chittlens soul food also? I knew one when I lived up north I know what they eat.
We take a couple hogs to butcher every year. I have tried hog’s head, I didn’t like it. My uncle could eat a whole one by himself. I did grill some ribs and steaks today you wouldn’t believe.
Now I don’t think those Carolina boys can beat us farming. As I recall it was ya’ll that had to ship the groids in to help you farm. All we got was 40 acres and a mule. I can’t remember any slaves in West Virginia. Not to many immigrant workers either.
Nope there is no money in tobacco. You government has seen to that. They bought our base that would supply us with around $2,000 a year for a hefty ten-year payout of $200 a year. All the tobacco will be sent to India just as they did with Cotton (except they sent that business somewhere else) in the 30’s-40’s. Can’t sell it now you have to give it away. It is a federal crime to sell tobacco beyond what your base carries, and since ours is sold dad is going to chew it himself. Of course that is a money saver there.
Now that garden is so big those plants are almost a foot high but they are so far away you can’t see them.
Actually that field is quite level, it is just the angle I took the picture. I am not afraid the tractor will roll over on me. I accidentally drove it off a 20-foot cliff once, after that I lost most of my fear. Someone tried to buy it yesterday. Right in the middle of planting season someone wants to buy my tractor. I have another one but it isn’t as big as the main tractor. That is like trying to buy your rifle at the beginning of hunting season, or buying your fishing rod at the beginning of fishing season. See what kind of people I have to put up with here, at least they are white.
Well it is 5:30 am and I have to go work on a house. Then garden till the wee hours of the morning and then preach on Sunday. I am probably the only person that says TGIM, Thank Goodness Itz Monday. I usually take either that or Tuesday off.
BTW Glenn I didn’t think you would smoke.
I hear ya, Doc.
And don't forget to say the "J" word during your Sunday sermon. And tell your congregation that there ain't no niggers is heaven cause there's a sign over the pearly gates that says, "Whites Only !!"
Kind Lampshade Maker
July 4th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Re: Glenn Miller...Just for that I must inform all the Yankees that Black eyed peas and collard greens is the foods of choice for groids. It is called soul food. There is even a groid musical group called “Black Eyed Peas”....
Well, not all Groid, but the album name fits, perfectly
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/Tuerkenjaeger/business.jpg
April
July 7th, 2005, 12:07 PM
My wife and I enjoyed the "first fruits" of my garden last night. (I couldnt get my kids to partake)
WHAT?? do you mean you couldnt get your kids to partake....what kind of a nazi are you if you cant force your kids to eat their veggies?????? lmao
Antiochus Epiphanes
July 7th, 2005, 12:15 PM
WHAT?? do you mean you couldnt get your kids to partake....what kind of a nazi are you if you cant force your kids to eat their veggies?????? lmao
Since this post my kids have taken up salad. We found out that our son doesnt like vinegar-based dressings, only creamy ones. I should have known this since he likes cole slaw. The girl is just the opposite.
I know you're making a joke, but we dont really force them to eat anything. We prod them a little, tell them what they need for their health, ask them to take a few bites, but dont make a big deal out of it. That's the way my parents handled me and I love all different kinds of wholesome food. Whereas, my wife's parents forced her to eat this and that, for example, she still hates peas. So we're following the method that produced a better result.
April
July 7th, 2005, 12:16 PM
My wife and I enjoyed the "first fruits" of my garden last night. (I couldnt get my kids to partake)
WHAT?? do you mean you couldnt get your kids to partake....what kind of a nazi are you if you cant force your kids to eat their veggies?????? lmao
Vilhella
July 7th, 2005, 11:26 PM
Strong-man, Popeye, can serve as a great role model for getting children to eat their greens, IMO. That is how my "Maw-maw" got me addicted to spinach as a child....lots of Popeye cartoons is the secret! I noticed that once the iron and folic acid hit his blood, he became a superman. A certain amount of okra pickles and watermelon pickles don't hurt either.....
Antiochus Epiphanes
July 8th, 2005, 11:41 AM
Strong-man, Popeye, can serve as a great role model for getting children to eat their greens, IMO. That is how my "Maw-maw" got me addicted to spinach as a child....lots of Popeye cartoons is the secret! I noticed that once the iron and folic acid hit his blood, he became a superman. A certain amount of okra pickles and watermelon pickles don't hurt either.....
Holy guacamole, we refer to "Popeye" AND my wife loves okra pickles! Good points!
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