http://www.healthline.cc/QNL%20Health%20Related/Sugar%20-%20Thief%20Of%20Life.pdf

Here's a very interesting article, I thought I would share with you.
It's very interesting how Tim O'Shea makes a point of how the Doctors, and the Drug Companies, are not there to heal you.

They are there to keep you sick. This way the Drug companies, and the Doctors, can keep the cash register ringing.

One more thought, isn't the A.M.A.(American Medical Association),F.D.A,(Food and Drug Administration), and the the Pharmacuetical Companies,run by Jews?

http://www.healthline.cc/QNL%20Health%20Related/Sugar%20-%20Thief%20Of%20Life.pdf

Here's a very interesting article, I thought I would share with you.
It's very interesting how Tim O'Shea makes a point of how the Doctors, and the Drug Companies, are not there to heal you.

They are there to keep you sick. This way the Drug companies, and the Doctors, can keep the cash register ringing.

One more thought, isn't the A.M.A.(American Medical Association),F.D.A,(Food and Drug Administration), and the the Pharmacuetical Companies,run by Jews?

If that were true, doctors would be sued out of business for malpractice.

Mr O'Shea has his head up his ass. Nobody denies the abuses of the pharmaceutical industry, but to say doctors are there to keep you sick is preposterous.

If that were true, doctors would be sued out of business for malpractice.

Mr O'Shea has his head up his ass. Nobody denies the abuses of the pharmaceutical industry, but to say doctors are there to keep you sick is preposterous.

Your right, there's no connection between Drs. and drug companies.lol. The drug companies are the ones prescribing, all these medicines.

The fact is,most diabetics are made, and its based on our diets. We can control a lot of this diabetes, just by what we eat. Eating right is your best defense. Insulin is billable, and covered by most insurance. Fresh Vegetables, and Fruits, are not.

Let's see,our society is full of people using drugs, and anti-depressants. Guess what my friend, the facts are, that people who take these drugs, such as Zanex, Riddilin,Valium,etc. Have a much higher rate of suicide, then do people that do not take their drugs. I guess thats due to good medicine.I guess thats why they call them anti-depressants(sic). Columbine is a perfect example.

Drs. my friend create more drug addicts, then the local street drug dealers do.

They also kill more people every year(approx 600,000), due to prescribing the wrong drugs, and in bad doseages. Killing people then killed by handguns, and car accidents combined.

"If that were true, doctors would be sued out of business for malpractice".

The truth is, a lot of them are, I have a friend thats and Orthopaedic Surgeon, and before he operates on his first patient every year, he has to pay his malpractice insurance, can you guess what his premiums are a year? 200,000 dollars, and he has never been sued!!!

This has put a lot of Doctors out of business.

I admit, there is a lot going on that a lot of us don't even know about. I posted the diabetes article, because of its preventability. They will just prescribe drugs, and not address the source of the problem. Then we can all go back to eating our undigestable processed flour, and sugar, and live happily ever after.

Read the article again. I know its a long article, but I for one found it,well worth reading.

You guys can take the article, for whatever its worth to you, but I still highly recommend, your reading it.

I do believe the medical profession, is a very noble. If the doctor took his Hippocratic oath seriously, many are just in it, for the dough.

I have two brothers, and my dad are doctors, but there are a lot of bad apples in the profession, as there are in Law, and Banking. I don't think its any coincidence, that all three fields, have a very high percentage of jews in them.

A lot of people, put a lot of trust in their Doctors, and maybe they shouldn't.

"Question Everything", and "Caveat Emptor"

Your right, there's no connection between Drs. and drug companies.lol

I went to a pulmonary specialist recently. While in the main lobby of the floor where I was to see my Doc., we witnessed about a half dozen good-looking young women peddling stuff for the pharmaceutical companies go thru the receptionist. This in about an hours time.

An aquaintance of mine who has a PR type background tried to get employment doing such a job and soon found that job reserved for young, attractive women.

Much of the medicine I've received thru my initial diagnosis and treatment has been free samples given out by same. They get you in the long haul though.

I have heard the exact same thing about the employment of young women. I wouldn't extend the conspiracy all the way to the general practitioner, but clearly Big Pharm has an interest in marketing as many drugs as possible. There are vast sums of money to be made, catering to, but not curing, the general unhealth of the modern public.

Something funny I saw yesterday:

http://jibjab.com/167.html


I went to a pulmonary specialist recently. While in the main lobby of the floor where I was to see my Doc., we witnessed about a half dozen good-looking young women peddling stuff for the pharmaceutical companies go thru the receptionist. This in about an hours time.

An aquaintance of mine who has a PR type background tried to get employment doing such a job and soon found that job reserved for young, attractive women.

Much of the medicine I've received thru my initial diagnosis and treatment has been free samples given out by same. They get you in the long haul though.

I went to a pulmonary specialist recently. While in the main lobby of the floor where I was to see my Doc., we witnessed about a half dozen good-looking young women peddling stuff for the pharmaceutical companies go thru the receptionist. This in about an hours time.

An aquaintance of mine who has a PR type background tried to get employment doing such a job and soon found that job reserved for young, attractive women.

Much of the medicine I've received thru my initial diagnosis and treatment has been free samples given out by same. They get you in the long haul though.

I'm familiar with these pharmaceutical reps. And indeed they are all women. Attractive? I've seen quite a few and I guess they might look pretty good to a 50 year old Chiropractor. Middle-aged white women who should be home taking care of a brood of kids but instead are out dealing legal dope for the worst kind of corporations.

They basically drive around town visiting every doctor's office in sight, all the while trying to push the latest pills from Pfeiser and the rest. They buy them lunch, wheel and deal, promise nice cutbacks, and all the usual BS. And oh what an array of pills they have for pushing. You name the disease, they have your poison. For a price. Usually a very high price.

Put it this way, if there were no defective mental conditions, then the big-pharm would need to create them. And this is what they've done over the last few decades. Every little problem in everyone's little life can be cured with a pill nowadays. And some of these pills have side-effects that requite other pills. On and on.

"Drug Nation" would be a better name for this country of brain dead wackos. I agree with PWG. The medical industry in all it's manifestations thrives on sickness, disease, and decay. And to keep the repeat business going, they have to keep the millions of patients hooked and coming back for more.

I don't use drugs. But what's the difference between legal drugs and illegal drugs? The legal ones have to be manufactured by large and complex organizations, while the illegal ones are basically impossible to regulate since anyone can grow them or make them. That's the difference. Regulation. Can't have legal marijuana because it can be grown in the backyard. Prozac doesn't grow on bushes.

Pharmaceutical companies are basically in a state of war with the people they pretend to assist and or cure. Your money or your life.

Don't get me wrong. Much of the medical industry is bona fide and quite necessary. But just as much of it is shady, evil, and totally corrupt.

And most of what it thrives on is fat idiots who never learned to stop eating and start exercising. Fatty always has numerous physical problems. Big-pharm loves fatty.

I do believe the medical profession, is a very noble. If the doctor took his Hippocratic oath seriously, many are just in it, for the dough.Taking the Hippocratic oath is voluntary for young doctors, and less than 1/3 of medical schools even offer the ceremony anymore.

Taking the Hippocratic oath is voluntary for young doctors, and less than 1/3 of medical schools even offer the ceremony anymore.

Odin, I did not know that, but that statement of yours, speaks volumes.

I do know that when my brothers got out of medical school, both were in debt over 100k, for their student loans. turning them into a couple of moneygrubbers.

I have found a big difference in the mentality, between my dad, and my brothers because of this. This has been a major bone of contention between them. Old School, and the new young moneymaking machines.

This explains why they test the shit out of you, thats where the money is,testing. It also explains why our health insurance premiums are ridiculously high.

Between the Pharmacuetical companies,Doctors,Lawyers and Insurance Companies, its like a round robin of cannibalism. Each one preying on the other. With the good old consumer, paying the tab.

What ever happened to the word "Integrity"? Has it been banned from our vocabulary?

Doctors are like lawyers, they do very little actual work and they get paid a lot of money.

When I got in a serious car accident I wasn't conscious and couldn't say "no" to certain useless tasks so these guys decided to do every single damn thing in the book and billed me over 100k. Good thing the insurance paid for it, but even after that a few "other doctors" wanted to scam some more money from me and threatened to send several grand to collection agencies. The reason the insurance company didn't pay them was because they could prove that they actually did anything.

And this other time I had to visit the emergency room (though they really have nothing to do with emergency, especially the hour long waits) and then I had to cover hundreds of dollars of extra expenses for a few words from those bafoons.

Another thing doctors love to do is prescribe as many things as possible. How many times have you been to a doctor's appointment for anything at all and did NOT receive a prescription of antibiotics? They stuff people so full of drugs they do exactly what proud white guy said, get sicker so they can make good customers.

Nice to see people aware of this, I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the flaws in this rotten filthy system.

I do know that when my brothers got out of medical school, both were in debt over 100k, for their student loans. turning them into a couple of moneygrubbers.

I have found a big difference in the mentality, between my dad, and my brothers because of this. This has been a major bone of contention between them. Old School, and the new young moneymaking machines.
The above was from the current thread, but a week ago PWG posted in another thread entitled "Anything to Keep People Dumbed Down":
Right on the money,White Man, thats exactly why I put this post up. I have two brothers that are Chiro's, and they both say that if it weren't for the jew MD's screwing people up with drugs, and ignoring the problem. They would be out of business.
So, a couple of months ago you claim to have 2 brothers who graduated from medical school with over $100K in debt, then last week you claim your brothers are chiropractors. The way I figure it is that: (a) you have 2 brothers who are M.D.'s and other brothers who are chiropractors; (b) you have 2 brothers who are both M.D.'s and chiropractors; (c) you have 2 brothers who are chiropractors and you're calling their training "medical school" to suit your arguement;(d) you have brothers who are M.D.'s and you said they were chiropractors to suit your arguement; (e) you have no brothers who are either M.D.'s or chiropractors, and you're making both up to suit your arguements. There may be something I'm missing in all this, and I'm willing to listen.

Doctors are like lawyers, they do very little actual work and they get paid a lot of money.
Why would you say something like that? Certainly there are doctors and lawyers who are lazy, but I think that most of them work quite a lot. As far as medicine, it probably depends on the type of practice and the industriousness of the doc. Whether you are willing to accept it, these are 2 very highly competitive fields, and those who don't compete fall behind.

When I got in a serious car accident I wasn't conscious and couldn't say "no" to certain useless tasks so these guys decided to do every single damn thing in the book and billed me over 100k. Good thing the insurance paid for it, but even after that a few "other doctors" wanted to scam some more money from me and threatened to send several grand to collection agencies. The reason the insurance company didn't pay them was because they could prove that they actually did anything.
There's corruption in the med. field, no doubt.

And this other time I had to visit the emergency room (though they really have nothing to do with emergency, especially the hour long waits) and then I had to cover hundreds of dollars of extra expenses for a few words from those bafoons.
I have an aunt who was an emergency room nurse for decades who would disagree with that one. Yes, it's frustrating that they allow people to take advantage of e-rooms, but that doesn't mean that emergency rooms are not for emergencies.

How many times have you been to a doctor's appointment for anything at all and did NOT receive a prescription of antibiotics?
I've been to the doctor's office many times for routine physicals, and not only did I not receive antibiotics, I recieved no medicine at all because I didn't need it.
They stuff people so full of drugs they do exactly what proud white guy said, get sicker so they can make good customers.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you do not mean all doctors, just most. So most physicians plot to make their patients sicker so that they can stuff thier mutual funds from the ill-gotten gains. Surely you don't really believe this!

Nice to see people aware of this, I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the flaws in this rotten filthy system.
No, n9odi, you're not the only one. In fact I'd venture to say, based on my encounters, that your beliefs about the medical tradition that our ancestral kinsmen created is comfortably in the majority on this forum. You are, I am afraid to say, at least as far as this topic goes, part of the mob.

I'm not part of the mob or whatever the fuck you call it. Things I read don't make up my beliefs, personal experience and observation does. You can keep denying the things I've mentioned all you want and I don't care what fairy doctors you go to but this is simply reality. Don't label me with whatever shit ideas you might have of people with alternative viewpoints that are aware of flawed systems. I'm not saying doctors are completely useless, we can't treat ourselves, but very big problems do exist.

Also, cut down on the quote usage. We're not retarded and we can understand what you're referring to, there's no need to make it four times longer. The quotes don't add any real volume to your already hollow posts.

Oh, and you say lawyers are great huh? Well how's this for a scenario.
I got my car totaled by an suv soccer mom brainjewashed bitch, and thanks to a kike lawyer I get as much money as I could have gotten dealing with the insurance company by myself. Not only that but it took way longer than it should have, and the kike made me go through so much more work just to get the EXTRA MONEY FOR HIS FUCKING USELESS SERVICES! Did he do anything? He called up and spoke to a representative from the other insurance company a few times and received/sent a letter or two. That is ALL. No complex work, no cryptic programming, just a bunch of bullshit any person with basic communication and English skills can do. Take that conventional jeworld view of yours and shove it up your ass before labeling me as some nut because I simply pay attention to bullshit.

I'm not part of the mob or whatever the fuck you call it.
When you state beliefs such as emergency rooms "really have nothing to do with emergency" and "Another thing doctors love to do is prescribe as many things as possible." and "They stuff people so full of drugs they do exactly what proud white guy said, get sicker so they can make good customers." you are exhibiting a high degree of irrationality.
Things I read don't make up my beliefs, personal experience and observation does.
Another fine one. OK, if you really want to stand by this... I derive beliefs based on an ability to discern the truth of what I read, other media, as well as "personal experience and observation." Personal experience and observation can be deceptive as well as accurate. I use a balance of all the above. I am not in any way saying I'm infallible, just conscious of the fact that my beliefs come from reading and many other sources. If you are someone who derives no belief from what you read (which I doubt) and only from direct personal observation and experience, then you are a remarkably unique individual in that respect.
You can keep denying the things I've mentioned all you want and I don't care what fairy doctors you go to but this is simply reality.
"Fairy doctors"? :confused: I agreed with you in that there is corruption in the medical field. What field is there without a lot of it? There may be some but not many. Where we have disagreement, generally, is your belief in an Orwellian plot to keep people sick and some other stuff here and there.
I'm not saying doctors are completely useless
Here is a quote from the post to which you are responding:
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you do not mean all doctors, just most.
Take a look at the quotes from your posts that I brought forth. Although I gave you the benefit of the doubt, going by what you said, it is understandable that someone would believe that you put all doctors in this box. It isn't just using generalities in your speech that I'm criticising, I do it too. It's that your whole line of arguementation is based on a sweeping generality.
Don't label me with whatever shit ideas you might have of people with alternative viewpoints that are aware of flawed systems.
I have nothing against alternative ideas, in themselves. I have many of my own. I didn't label you with anything negative in the post about using acetone in auto fuel. I am not going to try it, myself, but I grant that you may have something there, I don't know.

With the general decline in ethics in our society, it is no surprise that medicine and many other fields are increasingly corrupt. But you are more than pointing out flaws in a system. You are condemning the whole damned thing. There is an increasing tendency to point out flaws in modern Western medicine, as though the whole thing is corrupt, while touting the miraculous benefits of "alternative medicine" and not looking for its many flaws and corruptions. This site is absolutely flooded with people who have these ideas. It shows that Western medicine does have problems (not the least of which is its PR), but I am also witnessing a mad rush away from a system of medicine that has proven itself over the long run to be far more effective than anything else. This is not only because of problems with Western medicine, but it is also a result of very skillful marketing by the "alternative" side. It is bandwagonesque thinking on your part. I did not say that you are part of a mob on this issue merely to hurt your feelings. I said it because you are part of a group that is viciously attacking someone like me for pointing out that your criticisms are at least way overboard. A mob mentality is what you are demonstrating.

Did you read my paragraph about the quotes? Watch me make a good reply without the use of them, it's very simple.

First of all, I've been to the emergency room in 2 different states. I wasn't in there for fatal emergencies, nor was anyone else. People calmly sat and read magazines or talked for hours until they were called. It was exactly like a regular doctor's lounge except you don't have to schedule an appointment 10 years in advance.

Doctors always love to perscribe antibiotics even when they aren't needed. I'm surprised you haven't noticed this yet. And it's a fact that if you take a lot of antibiotics especially when you don't need them, this will harm your body's immune system and cause other problems. Problems you will visit the doctor for, later in time.

I derive my beliefs from experience first, and later I advance them by further research to fulfil my curiosity.and confirm my assumptions. I didn't wake up from a WN paper or anything of the sort, I lived among the blacks, dealt with the jews, been to the doctors.

You're right about corruption in every field due to the state of society, but medicine and health is one of the biggest in USA.

Did you read my paragraph about the quotes? Watch me make a good reply without the use of them, it's very simple.

First of all, I've been to the emergency room in 2 different states. I wasn't in there for fatal emergencies, nor was anyone else. People calmly sat and read magazines or talked for hours until they were called. It was exactly like a regular doctor's lounge except you don't have to schedule an appointment 10 years in advance.
There are people who abuse e-rooms. The staff must take patients as they come. Perhaps they should handle their load better in many cases. I don't know what kinds of constraints they are under. I am not sure where the problem lies. I went to the emergency room once with a cut on my hand (brother stabbed me inadvertently), and I sat there for a long time. I was pissed. However, I have never been under the assumption that emergency rooms are no longer for emergencies, that they're just another kind of doctor's office. Some are run poorly. Some have a ton of people who take advantage of them. Are there problems? Sure.

Doctors always love to perscribe antibiotics even when they aren't needed.
There are many doctors who overprescribe medications. But your statement I simply am not going to go along with. It's ridiculous.
I'm surprised you haven't noticed this yet.
The reason I haven't noticed that doctors always love to prescribe antibiotics when they aren't needed is that I haven't come across this. The doctors I've been to were pretty conservative about it and told me how to use them when prescribed. Are antibiotics overprescribed? Yes. That is a different matter. You are being too universal.
And it's a fact that if you take a lot of antibiotics especially when you don't need them, this will harm your body's immune system and cause other problems. Problems you will visit the doctor for, later in time.

This is true. You have no arguement here.
I derive my beliefs from experience first, and later I advance them by further research to fulfil my curiosity and confirm my assumptions.
OK. I will only point out that if you base your belief on an experience that you misperceive, and you later advance that belief through flawed research that confirms your assumptions, what are you left with? A false or flawed belief.

I'm not saying this happens every time or even most times. And I'm not really trying to nitpick. If this works for you, then fine. I think that knowing where your beliefs come from can be tough, given that we are constantly surrounded by information and experiences. Some beliefs, sure. But the general statement you made about knowing how you derive your beliefs is a tricky business.
I didn't wake up from a WN paper or anything of the sort, I lived among the blacks, dealt with the jews, been to the doctors.

I didn't assume you were without those experiences. I have had many of them myself. We just think about them a bit differently.
You're right about corruption in every field due to the state of society, but medicine and health is one of the biggest in USA.
Well, I will certainly grant you that the medical field deserves a lot of criticism. Especially so because of their history of holding themselves as the paragons of ethics and having holier-than-thou type attitudes. But I still believe that although there are a hell of a lot of crooked (or lazy) doctors out there, most are sincere about their business and want to help folks. The miraculous advances in health care are too easily discounted when focusing on the evils of the profession.

Learn to make threads that are easy to read and perhaps then I'll read them and reply. You mock my statement about quotes and then go ahead to make a page long reply. Good thing my monitor is high resolution but I still won't bother to continue feeding your gigantic yet hollow replies.

You ought to give it a shot. I complimented you on your civility.

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Let's see,our society is full of people using drugs, and anti-depressants. Guess what my friend, the facts are, that people who take these drugs, such as Zanex, Riddilin,Valium,etc. Have a much higher rate of suicide, then do people that do not take their drugs. I guess thats due to good medicine.I guess thats why they call them anti-depressants(sic). Columbine is a perfect example.

It's due to the pollution, both physical and mental, of a Judaized and highly industrialized society. Theodore Kaczynski was right. Hey, I should get a Tee with that on it :)

http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~rahul/Misc/unibomber.html

That's what I suspect, anyway.

OK, n9odi.

I somehow overlooked the paragraph about the quotes and the paragraph under it about my "jeworld" view. You do not deal with criticism well at all. I am not trying to belittle you.

I'll take your advice about the quote referencing. I suppose it can clutter too much. People do that a lot around here, so I guess you will be yelling at a hell of a lot of people for it. I find it helpful sometimes to follow what people say. Was not trying to be condescending.

There's no reason to get all bent out of shape because I question some of your ideas. Right now you have your ass way up on your shoulders. For this disagreement? I've been trying to be civil, you should try it too. No reason at all to flame.

It's due to the pollution, both physical and mental, of a Judaized and highly industrialized society. Theodore Kaczynski was right. Hey, I should get a Tee with that on it :)

http://www.ed.brocku.ca/~rahul/Misc/unibomber.html

That's what I suspect, anyway.

Two things Ted should have done:

1) COMPLETELY DESTROYED (melt that sucker down) the typewriter that he wrote that on.

and

2) SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! (5 words)


BTW: The Unabomber manifesto WILL be a part of my child's homeschool curriculum, along with MK by Adolf Hitler and Defensive Racism by EJS.

Excellent RMac. I agree, he should have melted that typewriter but I guess he didn't suspect his brother would turn him in. If his brother had not done that, who knows? Perhaps Ted would have gotten even higher value "captains" of Industry :cheers:

The fact is,most diabetics are made, and its based on our diets. We can control a lot of this diabetes, just by what we eat. Eating right is your best defense. Insulin is billable, and covered by most insurance. Fresh Vegetables, and Fruits, are not.

This is just absurd. Doctors are at fault for this? The Dr isn't your mommy or daddy, they aren't going to come over to your house and kick your ass if you don't eat right and exercise. They are professionals who do the best with what they have to work with. Yah there are corrupt doctors, but there are corrupt everything.

I don't know a single doctor that doesn't tell his patients to eat right and exercise and stop smoking and etc. The problem is most people are out of shape if not down right FAT, as well as sedentary. They eat the worst kind of crap, drink themselves silly and smoke, then go to the Dr at 40 or 50 and whine about all the drugs they have to take or worse, operations they need. The Dr doesn't do that because he's trying to make money you silly moron, he's doing it because he's trying to save your bloated, stinking, lazy ass.

As for medical cost, yes they are out of control and I don't know of a single health care professional who doesn't think so. Most Drs are as annoyed by the high cost of medical care in this country as everyone else, and contrary to what you guys seem to think, they are NOT the ones making money off of this. Besides the "Evil Dr & Pharmaceutacal co" conspiracy you guys seem to think are the cause of it all, here are a few culprits you might consider:

1: Trial lawyers. It's these vermin who have taught patients to see their Drs as lottery tickets in waiting. This drives up the cost for everyone because Drs have to carry expensive malpractice insurance. Moreover, one of the reason Drs do so many test, is precisely because of this. They are trying to cover their ass in case they get sued.

2: Unreimbursed expenses. Illegal aliens, working poor, and niggers use hospital ER's as rountine medical care facilities. This not only increases the wait time and decreases the quality of care, it increases the cost on everyone because by law most hospitals can't refuse to treat them. They simply have to suck up the expense. Of course, that expense get's passed on to us.

3: Medicare/Medicaid and various government interventions. You guys may not be aware of this but many procedures covered by Medicare/Medicaid are reimbursed for only part of the actual expense. The hospital has to make up the difference by shifting the cost in other areas. For example, a plastic bed pan that only cost 2 or 3 dollars from the wholesaler may end up on your itemized bill as a 50-75 dollar item. There are many examples of this.

I could go on and on, but I hope you guys have got the point. You want to put Pharmaceutacal companies out of business? Tell everyone to start eating healthily, exercising and stop sticking crap in their bodies like nicotine. You might also, while you're at it, tell them to stop getting old.

-Brian