Judge: 'Pointless' to deport Pole who raped woman a week after he arrived in Britain
Last updated at 22:37pm on 31st August 2007

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_04/054KwidzinskiDM_228x302.jpgMichal Piotr Kwidzinski 'prays every day for forgiveness'

A Polish migrant subjected a British woman to a violent rape only one week after he arrived in Britain, a court heard.


Michal Piotr Kwidzinski, 22, seized a 38-year-old barmaid as she walked home from work in the early hours.


The burly 6ft 5in Pole dragged his petite 5ft 2in victim into a builder's van where he raped her three times whilst holding her down by the neck and beating her head on the floor.


A policeman who arrived at the scene in Newquay, Cornwall, after a member of the public heard the woman's screams was confronted by the "enormous" frame of Kwidzinski and the victim slumped in the corner, drenched in blood.


The officer sprayed CS gas into Kwidzinski's eyes but the rapist threw him to the ground and he hit his head. However, he was rugby-tackled by builder Timothy Miller who held him down until more police arrived.


Kwidzinski pleaded guilty to rape and assaulting a police officer.


Sentencing him to nine years in prison, of which he will serve half, Judge John Neligan said it was "pointless" for him to recommend deportation after he has served his sentence because of "the current state of the law".

The court heard that Kwidzinski arrived in Cornwall in February to start work as a flower picker.


Robert Linford, prosecuting, said: "He had been in Newquay with friends and had been drinking a considerable amount.


"He became separated from his friend which annoyed him a lot.


"He was on his way to a disco when he bumped into a Russian man who gave him some white powder that he said was to help him have the energy and strength to work the next day.


"Clearly these were amphetamines. He tried to find a disco and it was then he saw the victim in an alleyway."

He pulled at her sleeve and demanded sex and when she refused he attacked her.


He found a van belonging to a builder parked nearby and forced the victim into the back where he started to beat her.


Mr Linford went on: "Afterwards the victim was helped from the van by police and paramedics. She said to one police officer: 'I thought he was going to kill me. Thank you for saving my life'.

"She was covered from head to toe in blood and bruises, she had a bruised eye, swollen lip and cuts to the back of her head."

Malcolm Clarke, mitigating, said Kwidzinski had had an argument on the phone with his partner in Poland that evening and was drinking heavily, as well as taking drugs and medication.


He added: "He is someone of good character who suddenly turned into a monster.


"He comes from a small village in Poland and wasn't used to the bright lights of Newquay.


"He is a Catholic man who prays every day for forgiveness and the forgiveness of his victim."

The judge recommended that Mr Miller, who went to investigate after his 15-year-old son heard screams near his home, should receive a commendation for bravery and also awarded him £100 in recognition of his public-spirited action.

The victim said after the hearing: "This has changed my life for ever. I always thought rape happened to someone else but it can happen to anyone, young or old.


Please be careful and have your wits about you."
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The court heard that Kwidzinski arrived in Cornwall in February to start work as a flower picker.

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Malcolm Clarke, mitigating, said Kwidzinski had had an argument on the phone with his partner in Poland that evening and was drinking heavily, as well as taking drugs and medication.

Is he a fag?

Hey dogman, what's your point in posting a white-on-white rape on this WN forum which is dedicated to bringing white people together from all European nations ??

Is it any suprise! Slavic males are wild sexual predators who are an extreme danger to women they are far worst than negros.

6ft 6in man in sex assault on teenage girl

A TEENAGE girl was indecently assaulted by a 6ft 6in sex attacker in the city centre in the early hours of Sunday morning.
The 18-year-old was dragged into woods off London Road and subjected to what police described as a "horrible and extremely concerning" attack.

She had earlier been waiting for a taxi home at around 2.30am on Leith Street, near the Omni Centre, when a man grabbed her arm. She struggled and her attacker ran off towards London Road. A short time later the girl decided to walk home along the same route.

After the attack, the girl managed to fight free and ran home. Police said she was uninjured but in a very distressed state.

Her attacker was described as white, muscular, in his mid-30s and around 6ft 6in. He had a mole on his face and spoke with an Eastern European, possibly Polish, accent. He was wearing a blue V-neck sweater with light coloured denim jeans.

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Last updated: 03-Sep-07 12:08 BST
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This is what Britain gets for allowing fucking hundreds of thousands of these fuckers in. Fuck!!! Back to Poland arseholes! I see these bastards and I swear they're almost as dumb as nigz. Out Out Out!!!

Hey dogman, what's your point in posting a white-on-white rape on this WN forum which is dedicated to bringing white people together from all European nations ??

I'm wondering the same thing; he constantly posts stories about White on White crime, usually without commentary.:confused: It makes me suspicious that he is some kind of anti troll!;)

Sure, people of all nations should, ideally, stay in their own nations, but I would rather see other Whites moving in than niggers, spics, gooks, kikes, and muds!:swastikasmiley:

This is what Britain gets for allowing fucking hundreds of thousands of these fuckers in. Fuck!!! Back to Poland arseholes! I see these bastards and I swear there almost as dumb as nigz. Out Out Out!!!

According to statistical records of standardized tests Poles are at the top of the charts among Europeans, right alongside Germans.;)

It is a fact that the less fortunate, from all nations, in terms of wealth, intelligence, and education are more likely to immigrate.;)

According to statistical records of standardized tests Poles are at the top of the charts among Europeans, right alongside Germans.;)

It is a fact that the less fortunate, from all nations, in terms of wealth, intelligence, and education are more likely to immigrate.;)

All well and good. Now they just need to use all of that intelligence making Poland a better place. Britain is a small island, how many more of the "poor unfortunate" can she take? And why should we have to?

All well and good. Now they just need to use all of that intelligence making Poland a better place. Britain is a small island, how many more of the "poor unfortunate" can she take? And why should we have to?

Oh, I agree, the Poles and every other nation should build their own nations, while Britain should stop taking in immigrants of all kinds, and start having their own children.:);)

Is that why they call it a "brain drain", where all the "intelligent" ones leave (Germany for example) to seek greener pastures elsewhere?

You're only attempting to suggest that only the low-life members of Polish society immigrates, and that it is they who ended up in Britain, explaining why that Polish dude would rape then(One week after entering).

I have, indeed, stated just that rather plainly, because it is the truth, for all nations, Germany included. Most educated, intelligent, and successful Poles and Germans stay in their respective nations. This rapist was obviously a farm worker and he had low skill levels.;)

Is it any suprise! Slavic males are wild sexual predators who are an extreme danger to women they are far worst than negros.

Are they, wandering kike? Far worst than niggers, they are!

Shut the fuck up, dipshit. There's no comparison. Statistics back it up.

What are you suggesting, that we should just turn a blind-eye to the actions of inferior Polacks for the sake of "White Unity"?

Fact, they are the niggers of Europe.

I thought Albanians were the niggers of Europe.

I thought Albanians were the niggers of Europe.

I would second that. Of course there are the Roma also. Albanians and Roma, any difference? Hmm.

But it's not completely true, is it?

It's called brain drain for a reason, young students who excel in certain areas leave the nation because...? Lack of funding mainly, then they go over to America and/or Britain where such funding is a little more common.

The same is also true for the Doctors, they're leaving Germany and going to Holland, because...? The money is better in Holland than it is in Germany. And as they are leaving who is coming in?

They have this silly idea in their heads that the only way to "replace" those skilled workers/engineers is to bring in cheaper [un]skilled workers from third world nations. Which is precisely why they are going about it "There is a lack of skilled IT people in Germany" so they bring in more Indians. Now where did those skilled IT people go? Where did the engineers go?

Brain drain... The only reason you could possibly relate something similar to Poland is just because; In Poland, they're all the same. The skilled worker is just as useless as the unskilled ie The intellectual is just as inferior as the peasant.

As for your farm worker, what are you trying to suggest? Low level skills doesn't feed you! Low level skills in agriculture only applies to Africa, even then it's not the white ones! It's an absurd statement to suggest that; perhaps because he is a rapist, it's obvious that he is only a mediocre farm worker with exceptionally low level of skills, thus making him a rapist.

Then we get to your rather ridiculous negative rep...Honestly, what's the difference between a Jew and a Polak? I can't figure out if the Polish people are Jewish or the Jewish people Polish, they are so much a like.

So, I didn't attack white people, I attacked questionable Asians.

This shitty, ridiculous, divisive post only further justifies the negative rep I gave you. I only give negative rep to trolls, agent-provocateurs, antis, kikes, fags, niggers, spics, gooks and muds.:puke: I think you fit quite nicely into the categories highlighted in red above; only a filthy, dishonest, jealous kike would write what you wrote above. What is the matter, did your kikess wife not put enough Christian blood in your matzoh ball soup today, kike? :swastikasmiley:

The only reason you could possibly relate something similar to Poland is just because; In Poland, they're all the same. The skilled worker is just as useless as the unskilled ie The intellectual is just as inferior as the peasant.

So you are saying that having seen you and the drunken British tourists that behave like niggers in my country, I've seen all Brits? Do I follow your logic?

So you are saying that having seen you and the drunken British tourists that behave like niggers in my country, I've seen all Brits? Do I follow your logic?

Good point, Bolg!:);) Erzherzog Bernd is either an anti or some kind of fucking kike idiot!!!:puke:

Good point, Bolg!:);) Erzherzog Bernd is either and anti of some kind or fucking kike idiot!!!:puke:

That's what I figured out too... :)

Good point, Bolg!:);) Erzherzog Bernd is either and anti of some kind or fucking kike idiot!!!:puke:


Or not an american. Hostile views toward other white ethncities are not all that terribly uncommon among European nationalists. It is unfortuante at at a time when we are all facing similar problems and should be concentrating on common concerns and interests.

Common concerns and interests? We share nothing of the likes, our interests is not the same as the rest of Europe's nor are our concerns.

some very important common concerns, yes. You all have non whites entering your territory and outbreeding you and an elite that is hostile to your interests.

That would go for every single nation within Europe. Only a weak minded fool would call himself a "British Nationalist" while at the same time rooting for Polak dogs to enter Great Britain. He then just states "I love my blood and heritage so much, when it comes to coons, but I won't fight off the fact that Polish people will soon pollute our genes anyways."

A british nationalist should not have to welcome anyone who is not british. It can also be recognized, however, that there are some important differences between other white Europeans and negroes or other non whites.



Perhaps the only reason the Anglo world finds them so tasteful is because they see a little bit of themselves in the Polish. Now that wouldn't even be a compliment, it doesn't matter which way you look at it.

If I see a little bit of myself in a polish person it would only be because they are a fellow white person(I have no polish ancestry) Comparing them to myself is not really something I would view as either positive or negative. Almost none of us in North America are of any pure ethnicity, anyway. I can tell you that any of us would gladly trade our south of the border immigrants for poles. We have seen whites from all different parts of Europe come to this nation and built a successful life, people who shared our values and were similar enough in behavior, values and intelligence to be able to fit in nicely after not so long of a time. Very different story with our non white populations.

I'm wondering the same thing; he constantly posts stories about White on White crime, usually without commentary. It makes me suspicious that he is some kind of anti troll

His commentary usually consists of one small line in broken English. "white women love black man",etc.:D
He is asian(which would make the dogman name pretty funny) or so I have heard.

This should serve as an example of how kikes in the media deliberately focus on one story while ignoring another, thereby twisting the lemming's view of the world into a grotesque shape, pleasing only to the jew.

Here are the facts:

Go to table 42 on this official US gov't site.

http://ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf

Then look up White assailant, White victim. You'll see 44.5%.

That means that White on White rapes occur 44.5% of the time, which is disproportionately low compared to our being 70% of the population of the U.S.

When a White woman gets raped, 33.6% of the time it's a yard ape doing it, despite them being about 12.3% of the population. Divide it out, and niggers are about 3 times over-represented.

Yet, despite this, the Kikenmedia focuses on just this one incident of a white man raping a white woman, and even runs a photo.

This leads me to my next point. You may (possibly) trust the kikenmedia for an accurate sports score, but little else. The Kikenmedia knows how to lie without actually lying. It's up to us, to develop our abilities to detect the underlying implications of such a story, which stinks of rabbi shit.

Ah yes, the infamous "antis, kikes" etc argument that you idiots always use when someone disagrees with you, as if your word is the ultimate authority. Just a couple of weeks ago I was a good Christian brother because in your opinion, I agreed with all you had said, today I'm a kike. :rolleyes:

You are so hilarious.

That seems to be the standard reply these days from kikes like Constantin, who at first claimed to be German, when he is in fact part kike, meaning just another filthy, lying, murdering son of the Devil!!:eek::mad:

Dishonest? Name one thing there that was dishonest.
Jealous? What do they have that anyone would possibly be jealous about? I really wish I could pack up my bags and go to Britain, I could be so "cool" and "white".

For starters, Poland has always been a European nation, composed of European people. There are a greater percentage blond-haired and blue-eyed Aryans in Poland than in Germany (not that I'm knocking Germans, being part German myself, but also part Swedish and part Polish) today. If you don't believe it, go look it up (I don't need to, because I already have and come across numerous sources confirming it.)!

British? Surely you're not suggesting that I'm British? And for the record, what country would that be, Poland? I assure you, I have no desire to go to that filthy Asian nest.

Now you're an expert on geography too; somehow you must have missed the fact that Europe ends in the Ural Mountains, not at the Oder River, moron.:eek::razz:[]

Neither, but I'm sure everyone here is extremely thankful for that thought provoking input[?], you're a real gem. Whatever can we do without you...

Your posts indicate you have placed yourself in the camp of known anti, kike, fag George Witzgall. You, and a mere handful of others on VNN (George Witzgall Dogshit, etc.), seem to enjoy attacking Poles. This makes you anti, and likely a kike! Come on, just admit you are a kike who wishes he was German; we won't tell the other personalities in your schizophrenic mind!!!:eek::krofl:krofl:krofl:krofl:krofl:krofl

No, I'm not American.

Common concerns and interests? We share nothing of the likes, our interests is not the same as the rest of Europe's nor are our concerns. That would go for every single nation within Europe. Only a weak minded fool would call himself a "British Nationalist" while at the same time rooting for Polak dogs to enter Great Britain. He then just states "I love my blood and heritage so much, when it comes to coons, but I won't fight off the fact that Polish people will soon pollute our genes anyways."

Truly, you are nothing but a demented and divisive fool (working for the atomization of all Whites), pure and simple!:eek::(;) Oh, and before you try to claim that I am writing this only because I am part Polish, keep in mind that I have attacked and given negative rep to those who have done similar smear pieces on the Irish and Italians as well, and I am neither Italian nor Irish.:);)

Perhaps the only reason the Anglo world finds them so tasteful is because they see a little bit of themselves in the Polish.

Yes that is a compliment, because the Poles are a lot like the Anglo-Saxons in that they are not so quick to attack other White peoples, like you are, kike!!!:[]

RE: Erzherzog_Bernd

Ah yes, the infamous "antis, kikes" etc argument that you idiots always use when someone disagrees with you, as if your word is the ultimate authority. Just a couple of weeks ago I was a good Christian brother because in your opinion, I agreed with all you had said, today I'm a kike.

And tomorrow you'll still be a kike!

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RE: Rounder

Hey dogman, what's your point in posting a white-on-white rape on this WN forum which is dedicated to bringing white people together from all European nations ??
This sniveling little asshole had to dig through mountains of black on White crime in order to find this needle in the haystack. I think someone said he's a chink. Chinese are just plain fucked-up people. Someday maybe we'll be lucky and the Japanese will kill all of them.

We can rest assured that anyone who comes on this forum and denigrates Whites solely based on their nation of origin is a jew or some asshole who needs their hands broken to remind them that we've got bigger fish to fry.

If you'll notice these cocksuckers never have anything bad to say about jews. Why is that? Do they like the feel of that jew cock shoved up their ass?

Just as the feds know all about us by monitoring our online activities, the time is drawing closer where we'll be able to monitor these creeps and when that happens they'll wish that they never heard of VNN much less come in here and post this horseshit.


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Erzherzog_Bernd is most likely a German Nationalist. His viewpoint is common in Germany where there has never been much love lost on the Poles. There is bad blood between the two peoples and our German friend has every right to the way he feels. This is natural. Americans don't seem to understand this. The Germans (and other Europeans) sometimes hold a highly NATIONAL view of WN. Especially towards some of their historical enemies on their borders. Yanks need to stop telling Euros how to feel and act. You don't know Europe. We won't scream at you for how you do things in the States.

Addendum: Yes, the Jew is enemy No. 1...................duh.

RE: Scarecrow

Erzherzog_Bernd is most likely a German Nationalist. His viewpoint is common in Germany where there has never been much love lost on the Poles. There is bad blood between the two peoples and our German friend has every right to the way he feels. This is natural. Americans don't seem to understand this. The Germans (and other Europeans) sometimes hold a highly NATIONAL view of WN. Especially towards some of their historical enemies on their borders. Yanks need to stop telling Euros how to feel and act. You don't know Europe. We won't scream at you for how you do things in the States.
I'm of German ancestry. German was spoke in my home growing up as a child. My wife is of Polish ancestry and we both have close relatives living back in the old countries. There is no need to explain to us the European mindset.

Any casual student of history would agree, that the highly Nationalistic view point of the 1930s-1940s German is what lost World War II for the Germans. Those who still cling to that jewish contrivance of nationalism had better get over it. There's a new deal and it's called global White Nationalism and the jews can't divide us because our skin is our nation.

BTW: Nearly all of those so-called nationalist groups in Europe are heavily infiltrated and controlled by the jew.

You need to get with the program.

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BTW: Nearly all of those so-called nationalist groups in Europe are heavily infiltrated and controlled by the jew.

Links to this information would be interesting.

RE: Scarecrow


I'm of German ancestry. German was spoke in my home growing up as a child. My wife is of Polish ancestry and we both have close relatives living back in the old countries. There is no need to explain to us the European mindset.

Any casual student of history would agree, that the highly Nationalistic view point of the 1930s-1940s German is what lost World War II for the Germans. Those who still cling to that jewish contrivance of nationalism had better get over it. There's a new deal and it's called global White Nationalism and the jews can't divide us because our skin is our nation.

BTW: Nearly all of those so-called nationalist groups in Europe are heavily infiltrated and controlled by the jew.

You need to get with the program.

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Actually there does seem to be a need to explain things to American WN. Just because you were raised in a German household does not mean you speak for the rest here. I agree with you about global WN. However old hatreds die hard and screaming at folk about this changes nothing. Herr Bernd feels this way. So be it. Do you think he will change his mind because you lot call him every name in the book? Childish.

What was the point about jews infiltrating every Nationalist Group in Europe? Like groups in Amerikwa are not? There is alot more going on over here. Get your house in order before you slander us.

You need to get with the POGROM.

Erzherzog_Bernd is most likely a German Nationalist. His viewpoint is common in Germany where there has never been much love lost on the Poles. There is bad blood between the two peoples and our German friend has every right to the way he feels. This is natural. Americans don't seem to understand this. The Germans (and other Europeans) sometimes hold a highly NATIONAL view of WN. Especially towards some of their historical enemies on their borders. Yanks need to stop telling Euros how to feel and act. You don't know Europe. We won't scream at you for how you do things in the States.

Addendum: Yes, the Jew is enemy No. 1...................duh.

He might well be. I imagine Western Europeans aren't pleased with all the Eastern Europeans coming in, it is very understandable. Anyway, the guy churns out some obvious bullshit, trying to raise tempers. I honestly don't know which one would be worse - that E_B's some kike stirring up shit or a honest but a very stupid guy.

I can understand the gook - its posts aim to break whatever fragile understanding we have among each-other, but how come there is always somebody to take the bait? We're WN's right? We are supposed to have learned how things work. Then why is it so easy to fool us?

For the millionth time: we don't need to sing kumbaya. We needn't even like each-other. It would be enough to work together and support each-other when we have to. Once we've done our job, we'll have the luxury to choose whether to fraternize, mix, or simply ignore each-other, cause we'll have secured our own space.

Bolg: I agree.

but how come there is always somebody to take the bait

A continuing problem with any number of different subjects. We don't need a jew, asian or whoever else to undermine us when we so eagerly do it to ourselves.

Our problems would be much less if the damn women would stop fucking foreigners.

RE: Scarecrow

Actually there does seem to be a need to explain things to American WN. Just because you were raised in a German household does not mean you speak for the rest here.
I never said that I speak for anyone here. I mentioned those things as a way of showing empathy toward my European Brothers and Sisters.

I agree with you about global WN. However old hatreds die hard and screaming at folk about this changes nothing. Herr Bernd feels this way. So be it. Do you think he will change his mind because you lot call him every name in the book? Childish.
I know about the old hatreds and I also know that the jew likes to stir them up. If a real Brother has an opinion contrary to mine I will acknowledge that and I will debate him on the merits of his position. I called him no names and your lying about that brings you into question.

What was the point about jews infiltrating every Nationalist Group in Europe?
The point was to state a fact. However, I said "nearly all" of those groups are infiltrated. And there you go again misquoting me by saying that I used the superlative "every National group".

Like groups in Amerikwa are not? There is alot more going on over here. Get your house in order before you slander us.
I slandered no one. I've stated facts. Having said this, I know that there's plenty of good jew wise White folk living all over the entire continent of Europe who are doing wonderful work for the cause. I would never diminish their efforts. By the same token, it's the same jew over there as over here and same jewish tactics are being used against us by the jew of pitting one faction against another. These tactics are universal and are the jew's stock in trade. And the creation of the myopic nationalist is a tactic of division used very effectively by the jew.

Are we fighting for artificial boundaries on a map largely drawn there by the jew or are we fighting for the our survival folk?

Many here believe that the rigidity of mindless flag-waving nationalism is passe. An outmoded idea that for all intents and purposes has served the jew as giant corrals for their so-called herds.

We will no longer be penned in. The jig is up!

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By Odin You are a cantankerous old bastard Brutus. When I spoke of people being Childish it wasn't necessarily about you. Now I'm lying? Get it straight. I was stating my opinion, not lying. Now having got that out of the way I agree wholeheartedly with worldwide WN.............................and the Poles need to go home. Ha ha!!!

Is he a fag?

Are real men not flower-pickers? :krofl

RE: Scarecrow

and the Poles need to go home. Ha ha!!!
If you saw my wife, you'd be singing a different tune.

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How many men actually pick flowers? I can't think of many, except perhaps those who pick it for the flower shops. Most men would just go in and buy it, not?

I was joking. :mad:

Of course MEN don't pick flowers for a living.

I was joking. :mad:

Of course MEN don't pick flowers for a living.

You have to remember that Erzherzog Bernd is pretending to be the "stereotypical" militaristic German with no sense of humor.;) :krofl I knew a guy who lived down the road when I was growing up in rural upstate New York who had a very successful business growing vegetables for the nearby city markets and flowers for the florists. He was pure-blooded German and a very respected man who picked flowers as part of his business.:) Of course, he hired others to help with all aspects of his business, but he picked flowers for a living.;) Aside from this, there are husbands and young men who live in the country who have been known to pick flowers for their wives and girfriends as a romantic gesture.:p

The ignorance of some people on this board never fails to amaze me!!!:eek::(;)

There is a problem of Pole's raping women in Iceland right now as well. Pole's account for the largest number of non-Scandinavian immigrants.

PoI, Hitler sent troops to attack Poland because they killed 5,500 German men women and children...which, I believe was used to convince France and Britain that Hitler wanted to "dominate the world" and to declare war on Germany.

WTF is up with Poles? Are they the same Anglo-Saxon Nordic stock as us German's and English, or what?

Originally Posted by Erzherzog_Bernd

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Originally Posted by Bolg
I can understand the gook - its posts aim to break whatever fragile understanding we have among each-other, but how come there is always somebody to take the bait? We're WN's right? We are supposed to have learned how things work. Then why is it so easy to fool us?

What understanding? And do you really believe that any "such" understanding would actually last? The naive nature of that which is *you*. How pitiful.

It is because of such statements that I consider you a kike! We will never defeat the jews with that kind of divisiveness, and that is just why you yids practice sowing it.:mad:

:rofl Read those couple of posts again, this time around open your eyes and actually take it in.

I however, doubt you'll be able to grasp the irony behind that post of yours...

I took my time making my last post, so your last post was not seen by me until after I had finished posting mine.;) It makes little difference; I still think you are pretending not to have a sense of humor so as to convince naive people to believe you are German.:eek:;):[]

Ok now it's just plain obvious that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. " :mad: "

Divisiveness? What divisiveness? What man would really believe that understanding lasts? Only a pipe-dreamer, oh wait, that's you.

I forgot, your fantasy and your reality is interchangeable. My bad, I'm sorry Wolf. It's just so hard for me to understand the kind of illness you're suffering from. :(

Touche!:D I've already mentioned my belief that you are suffering from schizophrenia, or multiple personality disorder.:eek: Have you been off your meds, or is it paranoid schizophrenia you are suffering from?:krofl:krofl:krofl

Are real men not flower-pickers? :krofl

Real men chop down trees and domesticated men mow the lawn.

Honestly, how many normal men have ever said: oh, there is a pretty flower I think I will pick it and take it home and put it in water to brighten up my living room?

BTW, in case you don't know, I also called him a fag because the article referred to his "partner" in Poland. In America "partner" is a politically correct term for a man’s male “lover”.

But hey! Mixing must be up in there! :krofl

Mixing IS there, slow one. If you don't like Poles, take it up with the first Pole you meet. Yapping on a forum does nothing. Poles might be inferior to many, but to you in particular, they are not. Shut up and remember:
Arbeit Macht Frei.

No my friend, that's you! Have you forgotten that I too read your posts on the Christian bashing threads? You seem to be in constant struggle, with yourself.

One moment you're full of logic, the part of you which wants to be so. The next moment you're a raving lunatic! Your opposite no doubt, also wanting to shine through.

I am always straight forward and logical; I can't help what happens to reality once it begins to enter your self-deluded, delusional, and hallucinatory mind!!!:eek::krofl:krofl:krofl;)

Yes it is... It however, has not reached the point of "no return". Only in America perhaps.

That's true. What I meant, however, is Whites, while differing, are compatible with each-other, while Whites and other races are not. If I have a daughter, and one day she marries a foreigner, I wouldn't be pleased. But as long as he's White, it wouldn't be a tragedy.

Well shit, I guess that excludes the Poles then. :roflFrom what?

This thread is a glowing example of why we White Americans should not inter-twine ourselves into European animosities.

Our motto is: "The Great White Race United And Led By The Best Among Us". And without regard to European ancestry.

If they look white, and fight white, then they are white. After we are free from the goddamned ZOG and the jews, we'll impliment selective procreation policies and programs dedicated to raising future White Americans up the ladder of evolution, rather than down it, and again, without regards to European ancestries.

Sieg Heil !!!

Compatible how?

Genetically. Culturally too, but much less.

Don't get talmudic on me, dude. I had just made an effort to take you seriously.

Honestly, how many normal men have ever said: oh, there is a pretty flower I think I will pick it and take it home and put it in water to brighten up my living room?

Thankfully, I have never met one.

I would run if I did. :eek:

My statement was anything but narrowly scientific - this is why your reasoning wouldn't apply to it. By "genetically" I mean roughly this: if the offspring doesn't seem oddly out of place in a homogenous environment, the parents are compatible. You wouldn't be able to tell a blond Pole from a blond German in most cases (until he speaks, at least). Or a brunette one, for that matter.

A half-nigger, on the other hand, does seem out of place wherever you put it. Whether it'll be able to reproduce doesn't matter.

That was the spirit of what I said - and yes, what animates us goes much deeper than science and is in the blood. But you chose to delve into technicalities. That's what I called talmudic.

Getting into technical nitpicking is a working debating trick, of course. But let's save it for outside of here. I wouldn't want to think we gather here simply to outjew each-other.

Ja well, I always go into technicalities... :o Old habits die hard. Anyways... I agree with most of what you said in that post, I'm just not sure of the whole "Polish vs German" angle. :D


OK, I'll make it "Bulgar vs Serb", to take into neutral territory. Animosities, of course, are not unnatural, far from that. And I am not implying all is OK between Whites, let's kiss up and pick flowers.
But we can manage, say, mild dislike. We can work with that.

That said, apologies for insulting you in previous posts.

Ja well, I always go into technicalities... :o Old habits die hard. Anyways... I agree with most of what you said in that post, I'm just not sure of the whole "Polish vs German" angle. :D

For what its worth, I believe that there should be separate German and Polish nations and cultures, as there always have been.:) Of course, there has been interaction, intermarriage, trade, communication and cultural exchange going on for centuries between Poland and Germany, but there also has been a lot of fighting and disagreement. Looking on the bright side, for all the centuries of rivalry and war, neither nation has destroyed the other yet.:eek:;):) One final jab: Germans like to think of themselves as pure German, but there really is no such thing, due to all the migrations over the centuries in Europe. I will give but one example: the supposedly pure Germans of Bavaria have a well-known admixture of Slavic genes which happened many centuries ago, due to migrations of various populations in Europe.

But if they are white and they act like niggers and fight black, what are they then?

Which is precisely my point when it comes to certain people in certain nations, historically speaking.

60 years of decadent, pop-culture, jewsmedia influences have lots of Germans acting like niggers too, ya know. As well, as all other white peoples, worldwide.

You Germans and German admirers on here who constantly bash Eastern and Southern European white peoples, do so to satisfy your own personal prejudices, and without regard to the harm yaw'll do to our efforts to unite, organize, and properly educate white Americans.

You're aidding and abetting the goddamned kikes, koons, and wetbacks, as well.

This thread is a glowing example of why we White Americans should not inter-twine ourselves into European animosities.

Our motto is: "The Great White Race United And Led By The Best Among Us". And without regard to European ancestry.

If they look white, and fight white, then they are white. After we are free from the goddamned ZOG and the jews, we'll impliment selective procreation policies and programs dedicated to raising future White Americans up the ladder of evolution, rather than down it, and again, without regards to European ancestries.

Sieg Heil !!!

After thinking about it, this makes the most sense. What we should be focusing on is why a Pole gets attention for raping, when monkey men are concealed from the jewsmedia.

I will give but one example: the supposedly pure Germans of Bavaria have an well-known admixture of Slavic genes which happened many centuries ago, due to migrations of various populations in Europe.

Can it be said with absolute certainty that all Germans in Bavaria are of mixed descend? stating something like that would require one or other form of proof. Especially since we're discussing a nation who since the 15th century (And I'm being kind here) had a natural tendency to only advance it's own people and culture. To give one example, Bismarck's policies implemented in Polish bought land that were strictly pro-German and did not in any sense reward any mixing with the Polish locals.

Another example the Boer people, they are all of Germanic ancestry either of Dutch or of German descend, some are of the French that arrived here during the 18th century, they've maintained this, and haven't cross bred with any one that is not of the Germanic lineage.

If you cannot state fully that all Germans are of mixed descend based on their historicity, then those who are marginally so can easily have their Slavic genes bread out. You just want to encourage a complete obliteration of distinct differences between European sub-races. I am in no way suggesting that any Slav is some how below a German, but I would prefer a Slav remain a Slav and a German remain Germanic. That is what makes us unique, a nigger only has one racial group they are all derived from the Bantu irrespective of their various cultures. The European is the only one who have this unique sub-racial lineage.

Fuck you and your cross breeding of the European people.

I thought so, but... Isn't it already argued that blacks are also compatible? They can make "abominations"[children] that can also reproduce itself, it grows the same way and everything.

They do not "grow the same way and everything", but are grossly inferior creatures which would not even survive in our lands without the intervention of do-gooders. The mere coincidence that such creatures can propagate themselves is of no interest to me in evaluating them any more than it is in the case of pond scum.

Crossing different white "nationalities" has no consequences of the sort, as the highly mixed, and highly cultured, "nation" of Austria testifies to.

They would naturally argue, that blacks are more compatible with white people that white men are with their sisters! The one produces a product(though very uncommon it works for them) and the other can't really produce anything other than "abominations"(In the form of retardation and other physical defects).

No. There are enough examples of animals which do not shy away from incest and produce healthy, strong offspring by such couplings; there are examples too in our own species, such as the Egyptian pharaohs, or the Inca of Peru, who were reported by Pissaro's chroniclers to be white and beautiful, so much so in fact that his officers took the princesses as wives back to Spain.

On the other hand, when the Egyptians mixed with Negroids and Nilotids, their civilisation descended into chaos and collapsed, leaving the populations of useless mongrels we find there today, kept alive in such numbers only by the assistance of others. Look at the figures of the pharaohs; the only deformed and mentally diseased one amongst these fine specimens was the mongrel Akhenaten, son of that Hottentot queen Tye.

What they also can and probably will state is, the different races on this planet are compatible with each other because their offspring CAN reproduce again. Then they might use the "Liger" as an example of something not compatible. It is a mixture of a Lion and a Tiger, even though both are felines and closely related, the abomination from their forced(genetic experimentation) "union" can't possibly reproduce. It is born "infertile"...

Compatibility is not to be equated with desirability. The offspring of such unions between separate species of hominid are at at a distinct disadvantage, at least where the union concerns Eurasian types with some of the more primitve ones. The former are also completely incapable of creating, maintaining or functioning in civilisations, which are the natural state in which the latter exist.

Genetics plays a huge part in our differences with those animals(non-whites), but surely, it is not all? Seeing as their "union" can still produce a "specie" of some sort, that can "evolutionary" speaking, further itself.

What is your point? Such offspring is inferior, and this inferiority has its roots in biology.

If it wasn't compatible, it would die out...

Explain to me how they are going to "die out" with a million do-gooders running about. If it weren't for them, we would have outbread and supplanted all these creature by now in true Darwinian style.

Does that make sense?

No. I think you're just in desperate need of female companionship to unscramble your brains.

Union Movement Policy Pamphlet
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IRELAND'S RIGHT TO UNITE
By Patrick McGrath
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The division of Ireland is wrong. It should end as soon as possible. It causes hardship to the South because the Six Counties contain industries which are a natural complement to the agriculture of the South. It is bad for Catholics in the North as they are denied full civil rights and social justice by the controlling Protestants.
All southern patriots desire the union of Ireland. The Protestants of the north do not. They are frightened by the prospect of a united Ireland because they fear that the resulting predominantly Catholic government would discriminate unfavorably against them.
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How then can the rights of the Protestant minority be guaranteed?
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Oswald Mosley offers a suggestion through Union Movement whose policy advocates the union of Europe - "Europe a Nation". This does not mean a great mix-up of the people of Europe; on the contrary it would be wished to preserve the roots and culture of all Europeans.
A European government would guarantee the rights of all minorities in Europe, for even large nations would be minorities of the whole. The union of Europe will solve the problems of the Tyrol and of Gibraltar, of the Flemish in Belgium and of Protestant and Catholic in Ireland.

In denouncing the atrocities, Oswald Mosley did much for Irish independence. Now his fight for European union will bring with it the union of Ireland. This is the way to unite North and South without bloodshed.
Europe should unite to preserve Western civilisation. Into that union should be invited Australia, Canada, New Zealand and White Africa. This union would contain all it needed and would be a third force in the world, not dependent on the U.S.A. or afraid of Soviet Russia. Union Movement is neither Capitalist nor Communist, but seeks a third way.

Fascist thought from 70 years ago!

The difference between Fascists and that fossilized species of Homo impoliticus known as "nationalists" is that the former actually have an understanding of the realities of politics beyond flag-waving patriotism over "nations" which were invented 300 years ago by philosophes twittering about "liberte, egalite, fraternite", "the rights of man" and "the people". "Western civilisation"; here is something politically impotent blockheads like "Erzherzog Bernd" will never grasp the meaning of.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNIFYING TOGETHER POLITICALLY
AND UNIFYING TOGETHER THROUGH BREEDING!

One does not NECESSITATE the other. In fact, through unifying politically we can ensure the sovereignty and purity, if you will, of European sub-groups and American sub-groups of white people in the same fashion that the American Forefathers created the limited Federal Government to be the backbone of individual state's sovereignty!

Can it be said with absolute certainty that all Germans in Bavaria are of mixed descend? stating something like that would require one or other form of proof. Especially since we're discussing a nation who since the 15th century (And I'm being kind here) had a natural tendency to only advance it's own people and culture. To give one example, Bismarck's policies implemented in Polish bought land that were strictly pro-German and did not in any sense reward any mixing with the Polish locals.

Another example the Boer people, they are all of Germanic ancestry either of Dutch or of German descend, some are of the French that arrived here during the 18th century, they've maintained this, and haven't cross bred with any one that is not of the Germanic lineage.

If you cannot state fully that all Germans are of mixed descend based on their historicity, then those who are marginally so can easily have their Slavic genes bread out. You just want to encourage a complete obliteration of distinct differences between European sub-races. I am in no way suggesting that any Slav is some how below a German, but I would prefer a Slav remain a Slav and a German remain Germanic. That is what makes us unique, a nigger only has one racial group they are all derived from the Bantu irrespective of their various cultures. The European is the only one who have this unique sub-racial lineage.

Fuck you and your cross breeding of the European people.

Crossing different white "nationalities" has no consequences of the sort, as the highly mixed, and highly cultured, "nation" of Austria testifies to.

You mean the once great shit-hole known as Vienna? yes that is indeed a testament to what we can expect to see.

The situation in Austria today, isn't half as good, it's a country transforming into a piece of shit that's waiting for disaster to happen as a result of these influxes into their cities.

I'm sure you'll list the Austro-Hungarian empire as an example despite the fact that the two ruled on separate terms and rarely if ever saw eye to eye on anything, in-fact it was merely an agreement that was in the interest of both Nations, they weren't exactly eager to open their legs to the Hungarians and neither were the Hungarians willing to do the same for the Austrians.

Laws were even implemented that ensured autonomy to the different races. If at any given time the two Empires along with their subject nations intermixed to such an extend that no distinction could be made between either party, then it would not have been so simple for Germany to lay claim to the area's known as the Sudetenland, the Silesian Germans etc etc. There might have been mixing, but it was not common practice. The Slavs in the Empire and the Austrians never got along.

"Western civilisation"; here is something politically impotent blockheads like "Erzherzog Bernd" will never grasp the meaning of.

Western Civilization's safety does not demand the obliteration of European ethnic groups. Perhaps you, being the blockhead that you are, should grasp that understanding. Bernd is not suggesting that there should be no unity at all, he just does not agree with the concept that cross breeding them is the solution.

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UNIFYING TOGETHER POLITICALLY
AND UNIFYING TOGETHER THROUGH BREEDING!

One does not NECESSITATE the other. In fact, through unifying politically we can ensure the sovereignty and purity, if you will, of european sub-groups

Yes, but some morons will never understand it.

There are lots of good points here. Let me try to blend these together with my take:

Immigration brought lots of different kinds of Europeans to America. Although there are some solidly single-ethnicity communities around the country, many of us Europeans in America are of varied European lineage. We don't really have a cultural or ethnic "home", we're just Whites and we're here!

In the case of Europe - Europe itself experienced waves of settlement and invasion of itself with other types of White people (early "old Europe" whites, Nordic invasions, and etc.), so there is really no such thing as a "pure" ethnicity, per se.

The difference between Europe and America is that, for example, Germans have had their unique culture and ethnic composition for a long time, and so have the British, Irish, and so forth. In America, however, apart from a few settlements, have not really maintained strong centerholds of culture or ethnicity.

The nations in Europe do not deserve to have their borders erased and millenia of cultural and ethnic uniqueness destroyed by Europeans mixing and settling with other Europeans.

While Europeans in Europe and Europeans in America should unite for common political struggles, we should recognize that Europe is our cultural homeland and should not be subject to mono-cultural pan-Europeanism. In America, I don't think its as big of a concern, but those who have a strong cultural affinity in America to their ethnic kinsmen should be allowed to maintain their pockets of unique cultural and ethnic heritage.

Whites should unite for the sanctity of our people and our individual cultural accomplishments. I don't see how any of this is incompatible with White Nationalism so long as we respect each other's culture and ancestry.

There are lots of good points here. Let me try to blend these together with my take:

Immigration brought lots of different kinds of Europeans to America. Although there are some solidly single-ethnicity communities around the country, many of us Europeans in America are of varied European lineage. We don't really have a cultural or ethnic "home", we're just Whites and we're here!

In the case of Europe - Europe itself experienced waves of settlement and invasion of itself with other types of White people (early "old Europe" whites, Nordic invasions, and etc.), so there is really no such thing as a "pure" ethnicity, per se.

The difference between Europe and America is that, for example, Germans have had their unique culture and ethnic composition for a long time, and so have the British, Irish, and so forth. In America, however, apart from a few settlements, have not really maintained strong centerholds of culture or ethnicity.

The nations in Europe do not deserve to have their borders erased and millenia of cultural and ethnic uniqueness destroyed by Europeans mixing and settling with other Europeans.

While Europeans in Europe and Europeans in America should unite for common political struggles, we should recognize that Europe is our cultural homeland and should not be subject to mono-cultural pan-Europeanism. In America, I don't think its as big of a concern, but those who have a strong cultural affinity in America to their ethnic kinsmen should be allowed to maintain their pockets of unique cultural and ethnic heritage.

Whites should unite for the sanctity of our people and our individual cultural accomplishments. I don't see how any of this is incompatible with White Nationalism so long as we respect each other's culture and ancestry.

the key word is "per se"
its not necessarily bad if it happens in small quantity.

I believe that what you are saying rings true so long as BLOOD and SOIL are not forgotten. On the whole, the individual cultural accomplishments should make the members of that culture by-and-large proud of the lineage they come from and the soil they inherited. This type of pride creates a strong affinity to stay with one's own heritage, with only a limited margin of error.

Sándor Petőfi...go get a manicure and stop wasting our time. You cannot be serious about what you are saying. I think I speak for all White Nationalists when I say: We do not want metrosexuals among us. (your picture notwithstanding, this is wholly based on the "facts" that you seem to present with pansy rhetoric)

RE: Rounder

LOL! This guy's as much a White German as is a shit-stained yarmulke.

My wife's family comes from a small Polish city just bearly 65 km east of Berlin and this ass wipe looks down on Poles? He jewishly clings to the artificial jewish manufactured national boundaries as if they're sacred and he calls the idea of global WN, communistic!

Let's ask this fake German, who was responsible for drawing those national boundaries of Europe? Was it White men or was it sham governments dominated by jews? We know the answer, but he's painted himself into a corner and now we can expect a torrent of jew blathering as a response.

One more thing. I mentioned that many of the European Nationalist groups have been infiltrated by jews and this fake German scoffs at that notion. As if we're to believe that just because the jew the has infiltrated the governments of all Western nations or the Catholic Church or just about every other organization started by White men that somehow it's become impossible for the jew to infiltrate an overseas WN organization just because they're European. Pure rubbish!

If it's a given that the jew has infiltrated all of the oldest and largest White organizations that the world has ever known, the onus is on him to prove that those well financed and well organized European organizations aren't also infiltrated. All we need do is ask where did they get their money and why is the European press and police giving them a pass?....When at the same time we can't raise 10,000 dollars and the media is quick to demonize us. The answer is clear.

We can expect to hear the lies about how much more intelligent and organized the European is, (as a jewish means to drive a wedge) but the fact is that there are intelligent White men in all countries involved in this struggle and we all face the same jewish obstacles. Some of them are working within and also outside of the large organizations whatever is expedient.

Now our little friend is upset because I jammed a stick in the spokes of his tricycle and he fell down and skinned a knee. Cry me a river!

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RE: Rounder

LOL! This guy's as much a White German as is a shit-stained yarmulke.

He is actually, but continue pointing the finger at him, while your wife's family and your country attacked the German Reich his grandfather fought to protect it. Your opinions matter very little in this regard.

My wife's family comes from a small Polish city just bearly 65 km east of Berlin and this ass wipe looks down on Poles?

What does your wifes location have to do with the Poles? Poland oh "conscious nation" how it longed to see the destruction of Germany as a nation, literature can be quoted from these people that call for it decade after decade century after century. How eager these Poles were to steal Prussia and chase the Germans out of their homes like they were rats. How eager these Poles are to safeguard Auschwitz as a shrine, for the satisfaction of seeing Germany shackled to their masters.

The verile hatred they have for Germans is no wonder why Bernd sees them as he does. Poland is the one nation that has no excuse for being the way that it is. Yet it prefers this way because it despises Germany in every sense.

Think you can mend that history? what a fool you are then Brutus. The only thing you'll be doing if you were ever to succeed (Which you never will) is bring about conflict among the various groups.

Rome fell they say, because of non-whites...Ah yes...The Holy Roman Empire of Germany fell why?

He jewishly clings to the artificial jewish manufactured national boundaries as if they're sacred and he calls the idea of global WN, communistic!

How are nation boundries created by jews? boundries existed even in the tribal stages of European history, to suggest it's jewish in origin makes you seem a bit on the imbalanced side. Especially considering the perpetraitors are known to be wandering snakes.

The jew created boundries, the jew is responsible for Communism that sought to break these boundries...the jew created religion and an ideology to destroy it as well. These gdamn jews are just everywhere in European history, the forging of the Great Roman Empire of Germany, forging of the German states, the forging of the German states as a unfiied Germany(how dare these bastards unite all those Germans!)...what would we ever do without them.:rolleyes:

Oh look! there's a little jew that told the knights of the Teutonic Order to rebell against the (jew infiltrated Polish forces in 1520) over the land mass called Danzig!...before the jew they traded and lived in peace!...(despite years of history before that point stating the obvious opposite)

And a little jew in Africa that told the Xhosa, Zulu, vendi etc to migrate further and forge their own boundries however primitive.

The lad known as Brutus, says "All groups in Europe are jew infiltrated, how else do they get funds and we can't manage squat?" get off your fucking ass and do something hows that? Even little Boer people in South Africa have parties and organizations that benefit their people because the individuals with the intellectual capability ACTUALLY USE THAT KNOWLEDGE. No jew would have a damn interest in bringing a single Boer a soveriegn nation, or their right to self determination.

Your lack of success isn't due to your uncanny ability to filter through nearly 6 million jews in America, it's because you people are fucking selfish. End of story. There are elements of Americans with great potential, but it's much more beneficial to the selfish "I want to be a leader myself mentality" to attack these people of ability and shun them aside. Joining parties where leaders squander funds on themselves, and do nothing for the people.

RE: Scarecrow


If you saw my wife, you'd be singing a different tune.

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Send pictures, I'm interested.

We Europeans favour a "Europe of the fatherlands", which means the nation-states with their respective homogeneous peoples should remain as they are. A repatriation of fellow whites to their respective nations is a justifiable demand. Intermixing should be kept as low as possible.

However i see no problem in national and economical co-operation between the European nations after the liberation.

Only an utter moron would return to an aggressive and competitive state of things which would only further insecurity, militarism and happy-trigger warheads. The whole idea of competition is flawed and its origins are in the capitalist mindset : "in the free market only the best will prosper".

The new European order will be socialist and not competition but mutual help and co-operation will be the norm. Your neighbourhood, and thereby your own living standard, will be better if your neighbour is wealthy too. Our neighburhood is our continent Europe.

The new European order will be socialist and not competition but mutual help and co-operation will be the norm. Your neighbourhood, and thereby your own living standard, will be better if your neighbour is wealthy too.


So the lazy ones just sit back and live off the hard working ones!

So the lazy ones just sit back and live off the hard working ones!
Wealth has to be earned and negotiated for in a free market system. Too much freedom is too much responsibility for some people, therefore crumbs will be thrown to those who demand the slavery of socialism.

Wealth has to be earned and negotiated for in a free market system. Too much freedom is too much responsibility for some people, therefore crumbs will be thrown to those who demand the slavery of socialism.

Precisely.

What idiot is going to go and work hard all day just to come home and "share" his loot with his lazy neighbour who just sits in the sun drinking beer all day.

So the lazy ones just sit back and live off the hard working ones!

Obviously you didnt know that in a socialist system those that do not work dont get to eat.

You should spend less time in the kitchen and read a book once in a while. And no i'm not reffering to a cookbook.

You should spend less time in the kitchen and read a book once in a while. And no i'm not reffering to a cookbook.

It is where I belong. :eek:

RE: alex

We Europeans favour a "Europe of the fatherlands", which means the nation-states with their respective homogeneous peoples should remain as they are. A repatriation of fellow whites to their respective nations is a justifiable demand. Intermixing should be kept as low as possible.

However i see no problem in national and economical co-operation between the European nations after the liberation.

Only an utter moron would return to an aggressive and competitive state of things which would only further insecurity, militarism and happy-trigger warheads. The whole idea of competition is flawed and its origins are in the capitalist mindset : "in the free market only the best will prosper".

The new European order will be socialist and not competition but mutual help and co-operation will be the norm. Your neighbourhood, and thereby your own living standard, will be better if your neighbour is wealthy too. Our neighburhood is our continent Europe.
I appreciate you coming on the thread and giving us the viewpoint of an authentic German living in Germany.

And of course I agree with every word that you've said.

I just want to clarify my assertion that the national boundaries of Europe were contrived by the jew. Certainly the more ancient boundaries must be brought back close to where they were before WWI. As those boundaries gave the authentic national demarcation of the people based on language and cultural differences of the various White folk of Europe.

Many of the subsequent and more modern boundaries have been tampered with by the jews for capitalist gain and advantage to the detriment of the people. With the jew out of the way, there is no reason why the leaders of White Europe couldn't come to peaceful and mutually agreeable accords and re-establish the proper boundaries based on historic precedent, language and cultural differences.

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What idiot is going to go and work hard all day just to come home and "share" his loot with his lazy neighbour who just sits in the sun drinking beer all day.
A pimp. Get the neighbor hooked on booze, then see what she's willing to do for you to get her fix. Works with dope as well. Free market socialism at work.

A preacher. Get the neighbor hooked on the righteous rush of the religious ceremony(and drunk off the sacramental wine and intoxicating incense), then see what he's willing to do for you to get his fix. Works with politics as well. Free market hypnotism at work.

Ditto. Although back on topic, it's not as much a dislike as a right to not live among them. I'm not into this whole "Global White Nationalism" bullshit either, by that...I take it to mean "one world white nation" etc. Perhaps you don't see it that way, but many do.

Personally, I see no problem with co-operation amongst the nations, but that is as far as it goes. When we win back our nations, what will really "unite" us to a "common" goal? Nothing really... We would have already defeated the non-white hordes and driven the Jews from our borders. I prefer a more competitive nature between the nations(Not necessarily war), as those competitiveness can only make us even more stronger, or do you disagree?

Recent history as an example, we have both war and time of peace to look at. The British were intuitive enough to give us the Industrial Revolution! Our path to our current success was brought about by competition. How did the "train" evolve? Britain had their version, France and the Germans made their own versions, each better than the other in many areas, that drove the other nations to make one even better, faster, more economical, it brought us to where we are today.

War...It saw a massive "evolution" in our Industrial world. It saw a massive jump when it came to airplanes, tanks, destroyers, submarines, missiles and even saw us go to the moon! That is a competitive nature, the only negative part of it was how certain nations allowed foreign elements in our societies to dictate to us what can and cannot be.

We won't be as great as we are, if we don't have competition with one another. We'd be at a standstill, temporarily... Seeing as I'm pretty confident in stating that as time goes by, culture will once again be enough to see different nations forging their own borders to live by their own laws and standards. Like what happened in America with the North and South...

Actually I agree with everything you say. I'd add only this - when we have secured our (respective) living spaces, we won't have anything to exactly "unite" us. But we need unity now. The only thing that can unite us is a common threat. We have that now. The biggest threat in all history.

Compared to the pending obliteration of all of us, having Poles (or whoever) settling in England, is a mere unpleasantness for the Brits.

Regarding our American comrades' more relaxed views on mixing between different Whites: America is a successful experiment, whether you or I like it is irrelevant. It works until it remains White. Americans learned different Whites can live and work together, that's why the idea of White Nationalism was born there first (at least in recent history).
Their doom was that from "anything White goes" to "anything goes" is but one step, and they did it. We can use the idea of White unity though - it works, at least that's proven.

Poles are going to the U.K. because the doors to the U.S. have been shut to them.

Before the immigration act of 1965, any European of good character and health could emigrate to the States.

The jews that control the American government shut that door. Now, the Poles are travelling within the E.U. for jobs. The net effect is just lateral trasfer within the E.U.

Realize that the jews were behind this.

Now, I can understand E.B. point of view. A lot of Polish people travel to Germany in order to shoplift and steal. They have the attitude that "Germans owe it to the Poles because of WWII." In an ideal world, all European nationalities would stay within their own borders.

Why does everyone fall into Dogfart's trap? The point of his post was to be devisive, and everyone has let him succeed. BTW, how much time does this guy have on his hands? All day long he trawls the Internet for stories that he thinks may act as a wedge between WN'ists. Out of 50 posts, maybe one will get people worked up against one another. Don't let Dogfart do that!

Why does everyone fall into Dogfart's trap? The point of his post was to be devisive, and everyone has let him succeed. BTW, how much time does this guy have on his hands? All day long he trawls the Internet for stories that he thinks may act as a wedge between WN'ists. Out of 50 posts, maybe one will get people worked up against one another. Don't let Dogfart do that!Exactly. The gook is transparent, but very persistent, thus bound to make some hits.

I think some sort of mutual understanding is being reached here though.

RE: alex

I appreciate you coming on the thread and giving us the viewpoint of an authentic German living in Germany.

What's different between what Bernd said and what Alex stated? Other than the fact that Bernd doesn't specifically like the Poles, his viewpoint concerning Europe is fundamentally no different to what Alex stated right there.

You simply let your judgement get clouded because your wife is Polish and you took Bernd's statements personally. There for you were confronting from the onset, and you refused to understand precisely what he's refering to. When you're actually calm enough you'd realize that Alex said nothing different to Bernd with the exception that Bernd doesn't particularly like the Polish.

As for "Authentic German living in Germany"....that's laughable, how is Bernd not an "authentic German"? . Next time you make an opinion, I'll wait for an Authentic white to give me their perspective.;)


I think some sort of mutual understanding is being reached here though.


For some yes.

Western Civilization, what is Western Civilization? Where certain countries feed off of the success of others? You bring this into this pitiful thread, are we to even consider Poland as part of this "Western Civilization"? :rolleyes:

Poland has always been, and always has been considered, part of Western Civilization. It is only people like you who claim to be Christian, yet seem to think that no other White nation matters but Germany, who would say such a thing. Keep in mind that I do have German heritage and am a Germanophile. You have also stated you don't care about the problems Whites are having in unifying in America, you fucking kike!!!:mad: It is insane, magalomaniacal, moronic bastards like you who give Germans a bad name (if you are, in fact, a German and not some shit-stirring kike); you disgust me!!!:eek::(:mad::[]

Can it be said with absolute certainty that all Germans in Bavaria are of mixed descend? stating something like that would require one or other form of proof. Especially since we're discussing a nation who since the 15th century (And I'm being kind here) had a natural tendency to only advance it's own people and culture. To give one example, Bismarck's policies implemented in Polish bought land that were strictly pro-German and did not in any sense reward any mixing with the Polish locals.

Another example the Boer people, they are all of Germanic ancestry either of Dutch or of German descend, some are of the French that arrived here during the 18th century, they've maintained this, and haven't cross bred with any one that is not of the Germanic lineage.

If you cannot state fully that all Germans are of mixed descend based on their historicity, then those who are marginally so can easily have their Slavic genes bread out. You just want to encourage a complete obliteration of distinct differences between European sub-races. I am in no way suggesting that any Slav is some how below a German, but I would prefer a Slav remain a Slav and a German remain Germanic. That is what makes us unique, a nigger only has one racial group they are all derived from the Bantu irrespective of their various cultures. The European is the only one who have this unique sub-racial lineage.

Fuck you and your cross breeding of the European people.

I am not encouraging cross-breeding of people of various European nations, but I am stating a historical fact that the people of Bavaria have Slavic, as well as Germanic genetic and cultural roots.:) Some information on this can be found concerning this on the internet, but I would suggest you go to a large university library to do some research. Respected German, Bavarian and international historians readily acknowledge this as fact. You might also spend some time researching the cross-cultural and cross-genetic exchanges and influences in Prussia and Austria, between the Slavic and Germanic peoples. Have fun!!!:D;)

We Europeans favour a "Europe of the fatherlands", which means the nation-states with their respective homogeneous peoples should remain as they are. A repatriation of fellow whites to their respective nations is a justifiable demand. Intermixing should be kept as low as possible.

However i see no problem in national and economical co-operation between the European nations after the liberation.

Only an utter moron would return to an aggressive and competitive state of things which would only further insecurity, militarism and happy-trigger warheads. The whole idea of competition is flawed and its origins are in the capitalist mindset : "in the free market only the best will prosper".

The new European order will be socialist and not competition but mutual help and co-operation will be the norm. Your neighbourhood, and thereby your own living standard, will be better if your neighbour is wealthy too. Our neighburhood is our continent Europe.

Your position is also mine!!! Rep sent to you for your sensible and sane post!!!:);)

I am not encouraging cross-breeding of people of various European nations, but I am stating a historical fact that the people of Bavaria have Slavic, as well as Germanic genetic and cultural roots.:) Some information on this can be found concerning this on the internet, but I would suggest you go to a large university library to do some research.

I have, but there's no indication that it's been anything other than minimal at best. Unless you can give me such proof that it's beyond simply minimal. I do not deny that such exchanges had in-fact occurred, but I do deny that it was large scale. Not sure whether or not that is what you are implicating, you might simply have just pointed out that it can in fact happen, perhaps this is just a general misunderstanding on my behalf, Not sure. In which case I will apologize for stating "F-you".

[SIZE="3"][FONT="Georgia"]I am not encouraging cross-breeding of people of various European nations, but I am stating a historical fact that the people of Bavaria have Slavic, as well as Germanic genetic and cultural roots.:)

To whatever extent this may be true, it applies far more in the case of the eastern Länder, Sachsen, former Schlesien and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, and the Austrian border contiguous with Bayern. It is incorrect to paint the whole Bavarian population as Slavic-influenced; they are much more ‘Alpine’, to get a little more ambiguous. Often one will even see a strange mix of Asiatic and Mediterranean features (long nose, olive complexion and Chinese-like eyes), which I've encountered a few times. Bavarians are not Slavs, in short, and any Slavic admixture - apart from genetic drift - is confined to the border area — Hitler's own culture, significantly.

Global WN is communism isn't it? It's without borders, as such very communist in origin.

There is something to that. WN/skinhead culture does amount to a form of internationalism. In Europe, skins from Glasgow to Rome worship Rudolf Hess and Ian Stuart — for most of them it is the pinnacle of nationalist sentiment. That isn't communism as such, not nearly, and very few of them could give you the basic ideas of Communism, and none of them (including younger east German skins) have lived under a Communist regime, but it does point to an absence of truly local ideology, a deep, intricate connection to the history and traditions of their own countries, and instead the adoption of a superficial counterculture based on punk rock and a few slogans from the revisionists. In other words it is a scene much more than a movement, and that applies to an extent here, though White Nationalism as such - a mostly American creation - however scene-like it may be, is an actual political ideology.

This is why that other thread about those skins in Jamel (where it's hardly surprising national-local sentiment runs high: over 37% (http://www.politikinfo-mv.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=1) of the small town Postlow, and other such places, voted for the NPD) was refreshing, because even though they no doubt consider themselves "skins" in the sense of their international scene, possibly as hardcore "Nazis", they are at bottom naturally and viciously insular German moorland types. That is the only real public "nationalism" possible in Europe, apart from established parties without any clout.

I have, but there's no indication that it's been anything other than minimal at best. Unless you can give me such proof that it's beyond simply minimal. I do not deny that such exchanges had in-fact occurred, but I do deny that it was large scale. Not sure whether or not that is what you are implicating, you might simply have just pointed out that it can in fact happen, perhaps this is just a general misunderstanding on my behalf, Not sure. In which case I will apologize for stating "F-you".

No, you are correct, the Slavic admixture and influence is minimal, but definitely present in Bavaria. I would like to do some additional research myself, to satisfy my own curiosity about just how deep and wide-spread that influence runs in Bavaria.:)

Here is some basic information on the West Slavs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Slavs ;)

From about 550 to 788, the house of Agilolfing ruled the duchy of Bavaria, ending with Tassilo III who was deposed by Charlemagne.

Three early dukes are named in Frankish sources: Garibald I may have been appointed to the office by the Merovingian kings and married the Lombard princess Walderada when the church forbade her to King Chlothar I in 555. Their daughter, Theodelinde, became Queen of the Lombards in northern Italy and Garibald was forced to flee to her when he fell out with his Frankish overlords. Garibald's successor, Tassilo I, tried unsuccessfully to hold the eastern frontier against the expansion of Slavs and Avars around 600. Tassilo's son Garibald II seems to have achieved a balance of power between 610 and 616.

After Garibald II little is known of the Bavarians until Duke Theodo I, whose reign may have begun as early as 680. From 696 onwards he invited churchmen from the west to organize churches and strengthen Christianity in his duchy (it is unclear what Bavarian religious life consisted of before this time). His son, Theudebert, led a decisive Bavarian campaign to intervene in a succession dispute in the Lombard Kingdom in 714, and married his sister Guntrud to the Lombard King Liutprand. At Theodo's death the duchy was divided among his sons, but reunited under his grandson Hucbert.

At Hucbert's death (735) the duchy passed to a distant relative named Odilo, from neighboring Alemannia (modern Southwest Germany and northern Switzerland). Odilo issued a law code for Bavaria, completed the process of church organization in partnership with St. Boniface (739), and tried to intervene in Frankish succession disputes by fighting for the claims of the Carolingian Grifo. He was defeated near Augsburg in 743 but continued to rule until his death in 748.

Tassilo III (b. 741 - d. after 794) succeeded his father at the age of eight after an unsuccessful attempt by Grifo to rule Bavaria. He initially ruled under Frankish oversight but began to function independently from 763 onwards. He was particularly noted for founding new monasteries and for expanding eastwards, fighting Slavs in the eastern Alps and along the Danube and colonizing these lands.

Bavaria:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavaria

Remember, this is just basic information. It would be best to delve more deeply into the history of Bavaria and Austria at a good university library or large public library.;)

Of course I'm biased because I'm married to a woman of Polish ancestry. This being stated,the question must be asked, where is your proper decorum of giving due consideration to a fellow White? To insult my wife is to insult me, but I think that you know that and that's why you did it. I think that it's transparent to the rest of the readers on this forum as well. An apology is in order before we can resume this debate.

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Are they, wandering kike? Far worst than niggers, they are!

Shut the fuck up, dipshit. There's no comparison. Statistics back it up.

I hope you know your using racial epithets there, boy. I'd advise against it (use Negro or Jew instead). Keep doing it and you'll have a visit from ZOG and when we leave you will have no testicles.

RE: Erzherzog_Bernd

In your case you are a mix with Polack in you, in Brutus's case, he is mixing with one of them. Take a look around, you can also see a similar mentality among many people when it comes to let's say...niggers for example?
With this statement you have thus proven yourself to be a jew beyond any reasonable doubt. A jew can't help itself, when squeezed they always squeal like a pig.

But we are indeed in the ops forum after all.

I'll leave you to your filthy sty.

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Nah, Asia begins where Germany ends... Culturally as well... Asia is the East, and as such logically can't be part of Western Civilization.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5772/smellslikebull08it4.jpg
Insanity!!!:eek::krofl:krofl:krofl

Generally it's the ones that's either mixed and/or mixing with them that suggests something entirely different... For example, that good old Himmler statement. There they are 80-million Germans! Every German has his good jew, all the other jews are bad, but HIS jew is a good jew!

No doubt, those people only claimed those things because they were personally involved with them for one or other reason, either married or partly jewish...

We are talking about other Whites here, not jews, you delusional little creep!:eek::mad:;)

Which explains your mentality... You don't look at the "big" picture, you just react on primitive impulses. You are part of that group, just like Brutus.

Your impulses are primitive and narrow-minded to the point where you only support Germans, but are against all other Whites!:eek: That is a nigger's mentality, or that of a kike.:mad:;)

We don't owe you anything.

Who is we? I don't even know where it is you live, although you have intimated that you are German. Do you actually live in Germany or Austria?:confused:;)

Oh that's right, we Germans are only suppose to keep quiet about our concerns and dance to the tune of idiots like you. Oh how thoughtless of me...How much in reparation money will this holocaustian act of mine cost me?

I have said it several times before that I do not support the mixing of distinct groups of Europeans.;)

A real German on the other hand will just shut the "fuck" up and take it with a smile. :rolleyes:

Nonsense, a real German is always ready to fight in this world if eternal struggle!!!:)

Your position is also mine!!! Rep sent to you for your sensible and sane post!!!:);)


Agreed with his and your sentiments.

I will attempt to derail this thread with some corny polish disco music about Tarzan:krofl:


http://img.youtube.com/vi/IpFX0_Iiphk/default.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpFX0_Iiphk


http://www.wvgazette.com/static/multimedia/images/derail-500.jpg

God, Germanophilia is so repulsive.

I will attempt to derail this thread with some corny polish disco music about Tarzan:krofl:


http://img.youtube.com/vi/IpFX0_Iiphk/default.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpFX0_Iiphk


http://www.wvgazette.com/static/multimedia/images/derail-500.jpg

That smirk on Tarzan's face makes him seem gay!:eek:;) Maybe that is the intent. Jewish liberal poison spreads around the world!!!:eek::(:mad::[]
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7251/fagamerikwahj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Germans have a perfect right to hate white Americans. To utterly dispise us, even. My God, look what we did to them prior to, during, and subsequent to WWI and WWII.

Germanic valor and sacrifices on the fields of battle fighting the ZOGs are unmatched anywhere, anytime by any other people. A fact, no honest WN will deny.

Therefore, when and if, the goddamned jews are deposed, Germany should be afforded special status, distinct from all other white nations. The world owes them that, especially the Poles, the Brits, the Russians, and us "mixed" white Americans.

And to deny Germanic superiority, is to acquiesce to racial equality. Simple, irrefutable logic all informed WNs know well, and all honest WNs admit, regardless of their own blood.

Sieg Heil !!!

In what ways are Germans superior, Miller? This is someone who is more German than anything else, asking you.

In what ways are Germans superior, Miller?

Well for examples, Germans don't have hooked noses, swarthy skins, close set beady black eyes, bow legs, or incredibly dwarfish bodies like you goddamned jews do.

(KIKE ALERT !!!)

Well for examples, Germans don't have hooked noses, swarthy skins, close set beady black eyes, bow legs, or incredibly dwarfish bodies like you goddamned jews do.

(KIKE ALERT !!!)

Yeah, Starr!:rolleyes:

With your beady eyes and dwarfish body, you couldn't possibly hope to win the heart of an elderly, alcoholic redneck. With your swarthy skin, you just can't compete with the fine ladies in Manilla whorehouses.

Sorry, jewess, but you'll never fulfill your dream of bearing Glenn's next batch of bi-racial, illegitimate children that he refuses to provide for. :rofl

Well for examples, Germans don't have hooked noses, swarthy skins, close set beady black eyes, bow legs, or incredibly dwarfish bodies like you goddamned jews do.

(KIKE ALERT !!!)

That is not an answer. And there is no "you" jews. I am as jewish as you are.

Nah, Asia begins where Germany ends... Culturally as well... Asia is the East, and as such logically can't be part of Western Civilization.

And there it goes down the drain, the imagined rational conversation.

And there it goes down the drain, the imagined rational conversation.


Mind, like the sun, sets in the West.

http://www.wvgazette.com/static/multimedia/images/derail-500.jpg

I don’t know if the picture will derail this thread or add fuel to the fire.

There must be a couple good Pollock jokes that would serve as good captions for the picture.

Well for examples, Germans don't have hooked noses, swarthy skins, close set beady black eyes, bow legs, or incredibly dwarfish bodies like you goddamned jews do.

(KIKE ALERT !!!)

I think what Starr is getting at is that the German's should not try to lord it over other Whites, for this will not foster cooperation and the betterment of the White Race.;) Whites don't have hooked noses, swarthy skins, close set beady black eyes, bow legs, or incredibly dwarfish bodies either.:eek:;) Whites should strive to get along and work cooperatively with one another for our collective betterment and for the expulsion of all jews, niggers, gooks, spics, and various muds. The jew would like to see Whites from different White nations divided, so we must work for unity against the jew!!!:):D;)

Sieg Heil!!!

Mind, like the sun, sets in the West.

You have way with words, my hybrid friend.

Both Britain and Germany have bigger problems with rape than Poland, by a wide margin, both in terms of % of population and raw numbers of rapes.;)

Source:http://www.nationmaster.com/red/pie-T/cri_rap-crime-rapes

Both Britain and Germany have bigger problems with rape than Poland, by a wide margin, both in terms of % of population and raw numbers of rapes.;)

Source:http://www.nationmaster.com/red/pie-T/cri_rap-crime-rapes

Both Britain and Germany have to contend with a large percentile non-white population. Poland does not, it is the one country in Europe that does not suffer under scrutiny with regard to some of it's more what some liberals consider "Extreme policies". So your point is moot.

And it supports my previous statement that Poland more than any has no excuse for being the way that it is with regards to it's falsifying of history and it's protecting of jewish interests. They do it solely because they gain satisfaction out of Germany being enslaved to the holocaust.

I thought Albanians were the niggers of Europe.

I thought that the Irish were blacks of Europe, and that south Dubliners were the blacks of Ireland. (This is a line from The Commitments, a movie which I found enjoyable in my lemming days. I can't recommend it here, though, as the WN critique would focus negatively on the climax, in which the eponymous white band beats itself up pychologically over a missed opportunity to impress a magically musical negro visiting from the States.)

Seriously, folks. This thread was obviously started by a troll for the expressed purpose of sowing discord, and said troll has had some success.

Both Britain and Germany have to contend with a large percentile non-white population. Poland does not, it is the one country in Europe that does not suffer under scrutiny with regard to some of it's more what some liberals consider "Extreme policies". So your point is moot.

And it supports my previous statement that Poland more than any has no excuse for being the way that it is with regards to it's falsifying of history and it's protecting of jewish interests. They do it solely because they gain satisfaction out of Germany being enslaved to the holocaust.

How has Poland falsified history and protected jewish interests?:eek::confused:

How has Poland falsified history and protected jewish interests?:eek::confused:

Oh yes I forgot you seem to think the holocaust is real, rather for satisfactory purposes (the idea that 6 million jews perished) rather than the facts that it cannot be explained in any way nor proven.

Poland denies any research to be conducted on any of the Camps in it's country. Despite the alleged "self evident" status of the holocaust. Thus it distorts history, and it protects the interest of jews, the well funded holocaust.

I suppose it's a fair trade after all, stealing so much German land without having to actually conquer it. It also distorts the origin of the war, proclaiming itself yet again to be the "victim" of German aggression, laughable, through out it's history it had provoked action against it, and yet it somehow always came out the persecuted one.

It helped in the Warsaw ghetto Uprising, it helped protect jews against the Germans, arm jews against the Germans...it is as loving to the jew as the jew is to it.

How has Poland falsified history and protected jewish interests?:eek::confused:

Ravening, what up bro? YOu hungry for some more dick yet?

Oh yes I forgot you seem to think the holocaust is real, rather for satisfactory purposes (the idea that 6 million jews perished) rather than the facts that it cannot be explained in any way nor proven.

The Holocaust was real and 6 million jews did die in it!!!;) To deny that is a sure sign of insanity!:eek:;)

Poland denies any research to be conducted on any of the Camps in it's country. Despite the alleged "self evident" status of the holocaust. Thus it distorts history, and it protects the interest of jews, the well funded holocaust.

I was not aware that Poland does not, apparently, allow research to be done at the former German concentration camps in Poland. Can you provide evidence of that claim?

I suppose it's a fair trade after all, stealing so much German land without having to actually conquer it. It also distorts the origin of the war, proclaiming itself yet again to be the "victim" of German aggression, laughable, through out it's history it had provoked action against it, and yet it somehow always came out the persecuted one.

You and your blood relative, Erzherzog Bernd, seem fixated on your fantasy that Poland somehow stole land from Germany, when nothing could be further from the truth. The allies drew up the new map of Europe after WWII largely with the bully the Soviet Union dictating the terms to the weak Churchill and Roosevelt (controlled by the jews as the were). The sinister, jew controlled, communist Soviet Union wanted a buffer zone between its territory and that of the free world and it wanted the border shifted to the West by 200-300 miles, essentially moving Poland West by 200-300 miles. Your gripe should be with the Soviet Union and the jews, not with Poland. However, all the land that Poland now occupies at present was, at one time or another, part of Poland.

Yes, Poland was indeed the victim in WWII. It was attacked by Germany after a ruse, that of Germans dressed as Poles supposedly crossing the border and attacking Germans, which has been proven to be just that. The Poles never attacked Germany. If you believe that then you are just as insane as Erzherzog Bernd. Further, the cowardly Soviets waited until the German military had all but subdued Poland before rushing in to claim its share of Poland, as per a previous secret agreement between Germany (pop. 80 million) and the Soviet Union (pop. 168 million). So, basically, we had two much larger nations (cowardly bullies), in terms of populations and, therefore, militaries attacking tiny Poland (pop. 35 million). That is comparable to two male niggers attacking a 90 pound woman!:(:mad: However, what can one expect, that is how niggers fight!;)

It helped in the Warsaw ghetto Uprising, it helped protect jews against the Germans, arm jews against the Germans...it is as loving to the jew as the jew is to it.

Poland was at war, so it fought in any way it could, even arming jews, just as the Germans armed Muslims and America armed jews and niggers.:eek:;)

This is what Britain gets for allowing fucking hundreds of thousands of these fuckers in. Fuck!!! Back to Poland arseholes! I see these bastards and I swear they're almost as dumb as nigz. Out Out Out!!!

Please, don't insult niggers by comparing them to polacks!

And by the way, looking at that pic of the polack rapist, his mug should be besides a definition of "SUBHUMAN".

As my people used to always say: "JEDER SCHLAG, EIN POLACK!"

Please, don't insult niggers by comparing them to polacks!

And by the way, looking at that pic of the polack rapist, his mug should be besides a definition of "SUBHUMAN".


I am a German, Polish and Swedish American, and all I will say to that is, "fuck you and your kike relatives!!!":D;):[]

We love stories on polacks ("the niggers of Europe") and shitpolackia here (http://http://forum.grossdeutsches-vaterland.net/showthread.php?t=19231). Please contribute.

The Holocaust was real and 6 million jews did die in it!!!;) To deny that is a sure sign of insanity!:eek:;)

There's a holocaust thread, go make your case, prove it. I'll come by that thread and slap every theory you have to oblivion, how does that fit you? One should think you'd love to show how insane I am. Shouldn't be so hard now should it? it is after all so self evident that any one who denies it is insane.

I was not aware that Poland does not, apparently, allow research to be done at the former German concentration camps in Poland. Can you provide evidence of that claim? Q. Yes, I believe that it is and we will come back to it.
Mr Irving, you said to the Judge in Canada, truthfully
I believe, that you had never been to Auschwitz to
look at
the archive?
A. It was true then and it is true today.
Q. It is true today?
A. And you know the reason why.
Q. I have no idea what the reason why is?
MR JUSTICE GRAY: Does it matter?
MR RAMPTON: It does not matter.
A. Because I am banned from visiting Auschwitz or the
archives.http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit/transcripts/day007.15

Of course little shits like Markiewitcz et al, are allowed to conduct their Bias research on Auschwitz and unprofessionally in the name of Poland and Israel, forge the readings of the cyanide compounds.

But a Neutral one? look at that guy, banned from it like many others. If you're caught conducting anything of that nature with the intent of disproving it, you're locked up for 2 - 10 years depending on where they feel like sending you.

You and your blood relative, Erzherzog Bernd, seem fixated on your fantasy that Poland somehow stole land from Germany, when nothing could be further from the truth. Prussia was Polish was it? I'd like to see the proof of that matter. Much like I'd like to see the proof that Silesia was not German, and that Danzig is not German. Cough up, if you can demand "proof" you can give it.
Yes, Poland was indeed the victim in WWII. It was attacked by Germany after a ruse, that of Germans dressed as Poles supposedly crossing the border and attacking Germans, which has been proven to be just that. You are in every sense of the word, the dumbest of all stupid individuals when it comes to history, a ruse from a damn cross border? I see your hearsay, and I challenge you with FACTUAL DOCUMENTATION.

Read em and weep.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

Authenticity Beyond Doubt

There is now absolutely no question that the documents from the Polish Foreign Ministry in Warsaw made public by the German government are genuine and authentic.
Charles C. Tansill, professor of American diplomatic history at Georgetown University, considered them genuine. "... I had a long conversation with M. Lipsky, the Polish ambassador in Berlin in the prewar years, and he assured me that the documents in the German White Paper are authentic," he wrote.[8] Historian and sociologist Harry Elmer Barnes confirmed this assessment: "Both Professor Tansill and myself have independently established the thorough authenticity of these documents."[9] In America's Second Crusade, William H. Chamberlain reported: "I have been privately informed by an extremely reliable source that Potocki, now residing in South America, confirmed the accuracy of the documents, so far as he was concerned."[10]
More importantly, Edward Raczynski, the Polish Ambassador in London from 1934 to 1945, confirmed the authenticity of the documents in his diary, which was published in 1963 under the title In Allied London. In his entry for 20 June 1940, he wrote: The Germans published in April a White Book containing documents from the archives of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, consisting of reports from Potocki in Washington, Lukasiewicz in Paris and myself. I do not know where they found them, since we were told that the archives had been destroyed. The documents are certainly genuine, and the facsimiles show that for the most part the Germans got hold of originals and not merely copies.
In this 'First Series' of documents I found three reports from this Embassy, two by myself and the third signed by me but written by Balinski. I read them with some apprehension, but they contained nothing liable to compromise myself or the Embassy or to impair relations with our British hosts.[11]
In 1970 their authenticity was reconfirmed with the publication of Diplomat in Paris 1936-1939. This important work consists of the official papers and memoirs of Juliusz Lukasiewicz, the former Polish Ambassador to Paris who authored several of the secret diplomatic reports made public by the German government. The collection was edited by Waclaw Jedrzejewicz, a former Polish diplomat and cabinet member, and later Professor Emeritus of Wellesley and Ripon colleges. Professor Jedrzejewicz considered the documents made public by the Germans absolutely genuine. He quoted extensively from several of them.
Mr. Tyler G. Kent has also vouched for the authenticity of the documents. He states that while working at the U.S. embassy in London in 1939 and 1940, he saw copies of U.S. diplomatic messages in the files which corresponded to the Polish documents and which confirmed their accuracy.
The Poles never attacked Germany.More lies just like the swine from Poland. You spend alot of time watching the History channel don't you boy?

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/deathinpoland/dp00.html

Read some more.

Poland was at war, so it fought in any way it could, even arming jews, just as the Germans armed Muslims and America armed jews and niggers.:eek:;)[Dumbass, justifying your forefathers weakness, and yet in the same breath you have the nerve to bitch and moan at the situation we face today. I thought you were smart, but clearly you're nothing more than a twit.

Now that I'm done showing how little you know here, go to the Holocaust thread and state your case.

Childish Ravening Wolf says this in his crying negative rep.

Prussia, every bit of it was a vassal state to the Kingdom of Poland for hundreds of years dubass!!!Laughable, completely and utterly LAUGHABLE. Firstly the KINGDOM OF POLAND did not exist until 900 +AD. At 700 AD (by that time Poland as a nation hadn't even existed yet) Germans conquered the land and became known as Prussians, through out it's history this piece of land had remained so. Slav tribes having had it for far less time than the Germans suddenly have claim to land they lost over 1300 years ago? In that case, perhaps we should consider giving the Germans the land formerly known as the Holy Roman Empire of Germany.

And no they don't have to work for it. The Region of Danzig was incorporated into the Royal Ducal, along with Elbing, Chelmno and a few more regions, the entire region known as Prussia was not a vassal state to Poland, the Royal Ducal was not a Vassal state to Poland. It was considered an independent under Polish protection, huge difference Polska.

Poland then in 1600's ceded a portion of land to the Hohenzollerns.

Piss-off Ravening, you Polish Nationalist dog....:rofl The only area Poland had a reasonable amount of years rule over was Danzig, which they ceded and stole twice, under the farce that it's a sovereign nation denied it's sovereign right to incorporate with Germany in 1939.

You're a dumb shit ravening wolf, and you know nothing about history.

There's a holocaust thread, go make your case, prove it. I'll come by that thread and slap every theory you have to oblivion, how does that fit you? One should think you'd love to show how insane I am. Shouldn't be so hard now should it? it is after all so self evident that any one who denies it is insane.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit/transcripts/day007.15

Of course little shits like Markiewitcz et al, are allowed to conduct their Bias research on Auschwitz and unprofessionally in the name of Poland and Israel, forge the readings of the cyanide compounds.

But a Neutral one? look at that guy, banned from it like many others. If you're caught conducting anything of that nature with the intent of disproving it, you're locked up for 2 - 10 years depending on where they feel like sending you.

So what, all you have shown is that David Irving (one person) believes he was banned from doing research at concentration camps in Poland.:);)

Prussia was Polish was it? I'd like to see the proof of that matter. Much like I'd like to see the proof that Silesia was not German, and that Danzig is not German. Cough up, if you can demand "proof" you can give it.

Prussia was a vassal state to the Kingdom of Poland for hundreds of years, as any educated person knows. As to the other areas you mentioned, look it up you ignorant little shit!!!:mad:;)

[QUOTE]You are in every sense of the word, the dumbest of all stupid individuals when it comes to history, a ruse from a damn cross border? I see your hearsay, and I challenge you with FACTUAL DOCUMENTATION.

Again, it is historical, undisputed, by reputable historians anyway, fact that German soldiers were ordered to impersonate Poles in a cross-border attack, as a ruse to start WWII.;)

Read em and weep.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

Why would anyone with all of his/her marbles trust anything coming out of the Institute For Historical Review?

More lies just like the swine from Poland. You spend alot of time watching the History channel don't you boy?

No, schweinehund, I despise the kike run History channel and used to laugh at it when I once watched the jewtube. I haven't watched the jewtube in almost two years.:D

Dumbass, justifying your forefathers weakness, and yet in the same breath you have the nerve to bitch and moan at the situation we face today. I thought you were smart, but clearly you're nothing more than a twit.

My forefathers fought for the United States in WWII, not Poland, Sweden nor Germany. That, as they say was an accident of history. It is really a shame that Whites fought the fratricidal WWI and WWII, instigated by the kikes as they were, but people like you, Braun and Erzherzog make me ashamed of some Germans and some German attitudes.:o:(:eek::mad:.

Now that I'm done showing how little you know here, go to the Holocaust thread and state your case.

You have shown nothing of the sort, nancy, and I have no need, nor intention, of going to the Holocaust thread, because, as you should already know, I believe it happened.;) In fact, I have already proven it to myself. It is simply a fact of history, and one the jews better keep in mind when dealing with us Goyim.:mad:;)

So what, all you have shown is that David Irving (one person) believes he was banned from doing research at concentration camps in Poland.:);)

He does not believe so, otherwise if it hadn't been so, they'd have stated so in his court ruling that he isn't infact banned and that Poland does welcome any research of any nature to the camps, did they say so? Can you prove that Poland does infact welcome any research of any nature to the Camps in it's territory?

Again, it is historical, undisputed, by reputable historians anyway, fact that German soldiers were ordered to impersonate Poles in a cross-border attack, as a ruse to start WWII.;)Where? show me this undisputed proof. I'd like to see it, as a matter of fact, I want to know what source these historian uses in order to staff their claims. Not just a quote from an Historian, the source as well.

Why would anyone with all of his/her marbles trust anything coming out of the Institute For Historical Review?And you actually call others kikes and provocateurs. Arguing like your favorite Richard Green now, Ravening? the IHR is not to be trusted because ?

They deny the holocaust? The documents were confirmed by Polish ambassadors who were present during these transcripts and discussions, as well as US ambassadors who saw these papers, anything else thats the reason for you not wanting to read it?

I suppose the IHR forced him by gun at 1971 to write this authentication in his diary...:rolleyes:

No, schweinehund, I despise the kike run History channel and used to laugh at it when I once watched the jewtube. I haven't watched the jewtube in almost two years.:DNah sorry Höhlenbewohner, you recite the History channel like a professional.

My forefathers fought for the United States in WWII, not Poland, Sweden nor Germany. Ahh, one of those who raped and pillaged on the way, how honorable.

That, as they say was an accident of history. It is really a shame that Whites fought the fratricidal WWI and WWII, instigated by the kikes as they were, but people like you, Braun and Erzherzog make me ashamed of some Germans and some German attitudes.:o:(:eek::mad:.Why? because we defend Germany and German lands? what's so fundamentally different to your gross exaggeration of Polish lands and polish territory, and lying by claiming that Poland is as a matter of fact, an innocent victim in this war?

You're so pro-Polish and anti-German it's not even funny and although you try to rally some of the people in this thread to your side by playing the martyr, every one can see where your interests really lie, Ravening Wolf.

You have shown nothing of the sort, nancy, and I have no need, nor intention, of going to the Holocaust thread, because, as you should already know, I believe it happened.;)Believe being the operative word, you BELIEVE it happened, as though a religion in and of itself, right choice of words Ravening Wolf, to believe it happened, vastly different to KNOWING it happened.

Why do you believe it happened? do you get sheckles from it?

In fact, I have already proven it to myself. It is simply a fact of history, and one the jews better keep in mind when dealing with us Goyim.:mad:;)Proven it to yourself, what a crackpot and this twit tries to tell me about history. Funny.

Childish Ravening Wolf says this in his crying negative rep.
Laughable, completely and utterly LAUGHABLE. Firstly the KINGDOM OF POLAND did not exist until 900 +AD. At 700 AD (by that time Poland as a nation hadn't even existed yet) Germans conquered the land and became known as Prussians, through out it's history this piece of land had remained so. Slav tribes having had it for far less time than the Germans suddenly have claim to land they lost over 1300 years ago? In that case, perhaps we should consider giving the Germans the land formerly known as the Holy Roman Empire of Germany.

And no they don't have to work for it. The Region of Danzig was incorporated into the Royal Ducal, along with Elbing, Chelmno and a few more regions, the entire region known as Prussia was not a vassal state to Poland, the Royal Ducal was not a Vassal state to Poland. It was considered an independent under Polish protection, huge difference Polska.

Poland then in 1600's ceded a portion of land to the Hohenzollerns.

Piss-off Ravening, you Polish Nationalist dog....:rofl The only area Poland had a reasonable amount of years rule over was Danzig, which they ceded and stole twice, under the farce that it's a sovereign nation denied it's sovereign right to incorporate with Germany in 1939.

You're a dumb shit ravening wolf, and you know nothing about history.

Read below and learn of your absolute and abject ignorance of European history, Karl Von Clausewitz (what a surprise?:rolleyes:)!!!:D;)

The people who eventually gave the country its name are usually known as Prussi or Borussi (in Latin Prussia is known as either Pruthenia or Borussia), and are related to the Lithuanians. The Saxons entered Eastern Europe and attempted to convert the people there in the 10th century, but produced only martyrs - it took the Teutonic Knights in the 13th century to do the job. They ruled the region as a papal fief until 1410 when a Polish and Lithuanian army defeated the Knights at the Battle of Grunwald and precipitated their decline. It was completed after a further period of warfare and the second Treaty of Thorn, which left the Knights in possession of just East Prussia, which became a Polish fief. The Western part became known as Royal Prussia and passed into Polish control.

East Prussia became a secular duchy in 1525, when Albert of Hohenzollern created himself the first Lutheran prince of Europe. East Prussia remained a vassal of Poland until 1660, when Frederick William, the 'Great Elector', secured its independence at the Peace of Oliva following the conclusion of the Second Northern War.

Source:http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Prussia
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/4849/poland14101660nn5.png (http://imageshack.us)
Poland from 1410-1660, with Prussia as a vassal or fief of the Kingdom of Poland

Read below and learn of your absolute and abject ignorance of European history (what a surprise?:rolleyes:)!!!:D;)
That link seems to leave out alot of important history Ravening wolf, any particular reason you chose that specific one?

The Western part became known as Royal Prussia and passed into Polish control. The east it says became a FIEF to poland...and the west completely taken by poland...strange isn't it?

How it should say this instead in an encyclopedia.

Royal Prussia enjoyed substantial autonomy in its affiliation to the crown of Poland - it had its own Diet, treasury and monetary unit and armies. One of those Polish drunken websites, Raving Lunatic? East Prussia was never COMPLETELY UNDER POLISH CONTROL.

The territory which remained under the rule of the Order was then called Ducal Prussia and later became the province of East Prussia.As "Fiefs" they were historically recognized as German land.

Under the system of feudalism, a fiefdom, fief, feud, feoff, or fee, often consisted of inheritable lands So them as "fiefs" (since controling one doesn't give it a state of autonomy nor a Diet) over a small patch of land for 311 years, compared to nearly 1000's years of German control?. Why quite logic then that Poland should steal the land.

In America they say, Indians are not native, and he who conquers the land, forges the architecture, tills the soil etc...are those who have a claim to the land. And by historical context, Germany is the rightful owner of that land, as it was them who had to build that hell hole that was Prussia before German ingenuity up from scratch. Even as a fief and a vassal with autonomy (vassal is not subordination merely agreement of mutual assistance), they created what was Prussia, which Poland in the matter of a few decades managed to turn into a shithole.

Learn the difference between a Fief and a Vassal and controling land, the tri-pact treaty between Russia, Austria and Prussia dividing Poland into three is more indicative of controlling land. I rest my case based on the simple fact that it had never been under Polish control, a vassal (in the case of the East region under RULE OF THE TEUTONIC ORDER) and (The case of the West) granted autonomy...is not a state under control, but rather one who granted a mutual assistance with regards to forces and trade, for protection. A fief in that regard, is no different.

Learn the difference between a Fief and a Vassal and controling land, the tri-pact treaty between Russia, Austria and Prussia dividing Poland into three is more indicative of controlling land. I rest my case based on the simple fact that it had never been under Polish control, a vassal (in the case of the East region under RULE OF THE TEUTONIC ORDER) and (The case of the West) granted autonomy...is not a state under control, but rather one who granted a mutual assistance with regards to forces and trade, for protection. A fief in that regard, is no different. It is only natural for screams of "incitement to racial hatred" to be raised whenever the coddled, pampered Polish child receives a scolding. In reply, let it be said that I cite exclusively texts originating in Polish literature or history, that is, admissions made by the Poles themselves, for which they alone are responsible

Contemporary research has dealt with the question of the Eastern German settlement areas with typically German thoroughness, and in so doing it has reached findings which can no longer be thoughtlessly ignored. Even the Poles will be compelled to recognize these truths, if genuine reconciliation between both peoples is to become a reality.


The history of the settlement of an area is determinative for all time. Culture is not created by force or by lies, but only by intellectual work on the part of the elite of a people. Rights and ownership arise only by reason of the achievements of a people brought into fullness in a geographical area. There is no culture of weapons, no culture of lies. Only history provides an insight into the identity of the real founders of an ethnic culture.



I described the origins of the Polish nationality in my previous text, "Falsifications of Polish History", in which I limited myself to the briefest possible discussion. Here again, I must return to the beginnings of Polish historical writings in the briefest manner possible.


All Polish history books, indeed all Polish literature, including the so-called "Letter of Reconciliation" from the Polish bishops Stefan Wyszynski and Karol Woytyla to the German bishops in 1956, refer to Miseszko I as the "first Polish Duke", who took the Holy Sacrament of baptism in the year 966.


Of course, at the same time, this constitutes proof that no Polish empire existed in 966, since Miezszko was the "first"; furthermore, he was not a Pole, but rather, a Norman named "Dago-Mesico", from the Norwegian family line of the Daglingers, who migrated into lands settled by the Germans on the Weichsel and Warthe. His baptism proves nothing at all -- certainly not that he was a Pole, or that he ever became a Pole: it only proves that Dago accepted Christianity. There are no records -- as scholars confirm today -- which ever mention -- even once -- a people bearing the name "Poles" or "Slavs" "in the area" at that time.

The re-writing of the cloister chronicles dating back to the year 966 -- the time of the first Christian baptism in the area -- was only completed at the expense of great time and effort. It was, after all, necessary to take the name of every well-known person, every village, every ordinary object, and give it a new name, while concealing one's objective. Artificial languages are not as difficult to devise or as unusual as one might at first imagine. synthetic languages are created with specific objectives and propagated in books and groups even today, such as Esperanto, for example. *

The 1911 Encyclopaedia (Poland) remarks: "The first press from which books in the Polish language appeared was that of Hieronymus Wietor, a Silesian, who commenced publishing in 1515... the first complete work in the Polish language appeared from the press of this printer at Cracow in 1521...".

Polish belongs to the West Slavonic group of languages, several of which acquired written form, with many German loan words, only in the 19th century.

Today, we are in a position to see how our own experience of the very recent past is falsified on a daily basis. Since 1945, the German past -- not just the National Socialist period but even the Weimar Republic and the Empire of the Kaisers -- has been re-written according to the requirements of the victors and the ruling hierarchy.

It took almost 300 years for a so-called Polish conversational language to arise from the glagolitic church Latin of the monks. The city of Cracow, which according to the statements of Polish historians remained German until the late 15th century, held out the longest. But as it was impossible to cause the German chronicles to disappear, they continue to provide mute evidence, even today.

The following comments were made by one of the most respected Polish scholars of his time, Alexander Brueckner (despite his German name, he considered himself ethnically Polish), Professor at the University of Berlin until WWII:

"German settlement, especially in the cities, was beneficial to both sides. The Germans provided the standard of living, the Poles provided order. The role of the cities was truly educational. The two peoples learned to respect each other; to live together; to respect the law; "German" urban legal proceedings (law and procedure) was progressive compared to "Polish" domestic procedures. The cities created trades and professions, which had hitherto existed only as a potential. The cities contributed to the wealth of the whole country, as well as to the general standard of living. They created the basis for schools and universities, which could only function in a well-managed city."


The history of German immigration in Poland is known to most people only in its general outlines. In my first publication, "Poland and Falsifications of History", I stated that the regions of Weichsel and Warthe at the time of the introduction of Christianity were not even inhabited by Poles, and that the newly founded cloisters were forced to recruit German peasants and artisans from the German Reich. In this connection, Professor Grabski of the University of Warsaw writes as follows (p. 54):


"The cloisters founded by the Germans in Poland began to draw emigrants from Germany, Flanders, and other areas, as early as the 12th century, in order to achieve more efficient land management. Polish peasants were very unreliable as settlers."

The Pole Dabrowski described the activity of German farmers in the following manner:
"The Germans lived in closed cities and open villages, in village farmhouses and manors, occupying themselves with artisanship, trade, farming, soldiering, and the word of God. Since they were hardworking, peaceful and economical, they were a socially creative element representing a model for the domestic population."


The Poles always brag that Casimir the Great took over a "wooden Poland", and left it a "Poland made of stone". Lueck gives the Polish historian Bruecker an opportunity to express himself in the following terms (p. 23):


"It was not Casimir the Great who changed 'wooden Poland' into a 'Poland of masonry and stone': it was the cities that accomplished this. There was a tremendous difference between the German Cracow of 1300 and the Bishop's Cracow of 1200 -- and this applies not just to Cracow, but to every other city."


The Pole Czeckanowski confirms German research on "Polish" racial and biological descendance from the Germans in the following two sentences (p. 103):

"In the rise of our city population, German immigrants played a very great role. Their descendants today form part of the highest strata of the Polish patriciandom."

Another Polish historian has also concerned himself with the significance of the German city founders and citizens; he is the very respected and serious cultural historian Ptasnik (p. 131).


"It is uncomfortable to write about the history of trade and professions in Poland, and even sadder to describe the magnificent men who rendered service in this connection. Certainly, there was Polish trade, in the sense that it took place on Polish soil, importing goods from abroad, selling them to the Polish population, and exporting domestic raw products to foreign countries. But who were the merchants and tradesmen, who carried on the trade? Germans mostly -- Poles only came along at the end."


What Ptasnik (p. 22) as well as Grodecki (p. 23) were compelled to admit with regards to earlier times also applies, with some reservations, to Poland during the 17th century. Ptasnik writes:


"Insofar as it applies to earlier times, that is, around the 13th and 14th centuries, those who immigrated into the newly founded cities were primarily German population groups; at least, the strata that gave the city its national character, namely, the tradesmen and artisans, were German. The name of the citizens who took part in city government, whose names are recorded in the archives even today, testify expressly to this fact."

Another Polish testimony to the value of German work of construction is given by Sokolowski (p. 136):

"Honour must be paid to these careful, assiduous, hardworking, and energetic descendants who, though they came from foreign lands, acquired a liking for their new homeland, were loyal to their King and city; who brought culture to the rough soil of our earth, uniting us with the world of the West and sealing our link to Latin culture. In the tops of the Cracow towers, in the bastions surrounding the city, in the construction of houses, in commercial and art objects, in everything that is dear to us, everything which forms the pride of our city, we may perceive traces of the influence of the Franks, which, together with the influence of the Italian Renaissance, created the Golden Age of our history."


On page 330 of his work "German Construction Work in the Development of Poland", Lueck quotes the Pole Tadeusz Smarzewski, in the agricultural newspaper "Kraj" in January 1901: "...Only those who are unacquainted with history due to the present circumstances of nationalities in the Prussian part of the territory could be depressed by this picture "of German construction work". Those who, by contrast, possess a more exact knowledge of history from childhood on, and who know what to expect in Greater Poland, will feel differently. Anyone who knows that these provinces had already long reflected a land with a mixed population, that the cities of West Prussia bore a German character even during the ancient Republic of the Nobles, and that the great Polish cities possessed an overwhelmingly German middle class, will be far less disappointed."


In like manner, an equally, extraordinarily positive view of the Germans and the value of their construction work, published in the "Gazeta Polska" in 1901, is quoted by Lueck on pages 451-2. It confirms that not all Poles have adopted the so-called "traditional hostility" as the sole basis of their dealings with Germany: many excellent historians have shown a dedication to the truth, and have also attempted to do justice to the truth. But they were the minority, and are ignored by their ill-willed brethren. Here is the translation of a note published in the Polish original text of Prus-Glowacki:


"We always had the best possible relations with the German people. From them, we acquired the Gothic style in building, wood cutting, numerous mechanical devices, vessels, and tools, a great deal of scientific knowledge, trades and textiles, trade, many customs, and many forms of organization... We have no fear of the truth: to this noble people we owe the greater part of our civilization."


These Poles have done their fatherland a greater service than those who, dripping with envy and hatred caused by their feelings of inferiority, describe the Germans as the progeny of Hell. The German Polish border was at peace for more than 300 years.

During this period, the Germans achieved incomparable feats of culture which benefited the country. Of course, they didn't do so for the country's sake alone; they did it for their own well-being as well -- it could hardly be otherwise -- but the greatest beneficiary was the country itself. Allegations to the contrary notwithstanding, the Germans did not engage in compulsory "Germanization"; on the contrary, they were often forced to resist an extremely violent "Polonization". They were compelled to defend themselves against the forced assimilation of German Catholics as Poles. The excessively emotional, egotistical Poles only acknowledge measures taken in their favour; they are not objective. The Poles always consider their "Polonization" programmes to be justified, no matter how violent they may be; measures taken by others in self-defence, on the other hand, are considered an injustice committed against themselves.



But back to the Doenhoff family chronicle, which reveals still another important piece of information. In relation to the allegedly "originally Slavic" area of East Prussia, the Countess, based on her documentation, remarks as follows:


"Since we are dealing with errors at this point, reference may be made to another inexact allegation: East Prussia was never originally Slavic territory, into which the Germans penetrated as conquerors; rather, the Slavs appeared quite late on the Weichsel and Oder, no earlier than around the 9th century A.D. Germans had already inhabited the area for 1500 years. As early as 1000 B.C., the Goths inhabited the mouth of the Weichsel, and remained in the area... At the time of the birth of Christ, East and West Prussia were both inhabited by Goths, and the region of Posen was inhabited by Burgundians."


There were, therefore, no "original Slavic areas" on the Weichsel, Warthe, Oder, and Pregel.


The 1911 Encylopaedia Britannica, "Slavs", vol. XXV p. 229, states: "In spite of the prevalent brachycephaly of the modern Slavs, measurements of skulls from cemeteries and ancient graves which are certainly Slavonic have shown, against all expectations, that the farther back we go, the greater is the proportion of long heads, and the race appears to have been originally dolichocephalic and osteologically indistinguishable from its German, Baltic, and Finnish neighbours."

Author's note: Proof that the Polish language and glagolitic monks' Latin were still generally unknown as late as the 15th century is the "the parchment document with attached lead seal" of King Casimir of Danzig", dated 1466. It begins as follows: "Kazimirus von gots gnade konig zsu Polan, grosforste in Lythawin, in Rewssin, Prewssin herre und erbeling etc. bekennen und thun kunth... "I, Casimir, king of Poland by grace of God, great prince of Lithuania, lord and heir in Russia, Prussia, and heir etc., hereby acknowledge and announce... i.e., the document is in archaic German and not Polish.". It might be observed that the term is not "Polen" "Poland" but rather "Polan", i.e., "po" (Germanic "an", "am", "bei" = near", and "lan", derived from the Germanic = "arable land, field, land". (See my remarks on page 24, part I, "Falsifications".).


The present day also furnishes examples of what happens to people in Poland who undertake research into authentic history. The Polish literary historian, Jan Josef Lipski, made the attempt: he was arrested and thrown into prison. His crime, in particular, consisted of the following passage in his history of culture:

"A mass of false myths and concepts has arisen in the Polish mind regarding our historical relations with the Germans, which, for the sake of truth and our own well-being, must be cleansed of lies once and for all. False statements on one's own history are a sickness in the soul of a nation, which, in particular, can only lead to hostility to foreigners and national megalomania." And he adds: "Almost everyone in Poland -- even the educated -- believes today that, after the Second World War, we moved into an area which had been stolen from us by the Germans. We need only mention Danzig and the Ermland, which were among the lands given to the First Republic under the Second Peace of Thorn (1466), although both Danzig and the Emland were ethnically German in the majority, then and until the end of WWII. The rest of East Prussia was never Polish; the Germans did not take this area away from Poland, they took it from the Prussians..."

Elsewhere, Lipski says: "After centuries of development of German culture, side by side with Polish culture in Silesia (the overwhelmingly German city of Danzig) and the long since exclusively German culture of West Pomerania, a rich heritage of architecture and other works, in addition to German historical archive materials, was bequeathed to us as the result of historical events. We are the trustees of this material for all of humanity. We are therefore obliged to maintain these treasures in full awareness that we are safeguarding a heritage of German culture for the future -- including our future -- without lies, and without concealing the origin of this material. People in Poland don't like to write about this, or to be reminded of our debt to the Germans in terms of civilization and culture: our styles of roofing, brickwork, our masons, printers, painters, sculptors, and hundreds of Polish words, are all evidence of debt to our Western neighbour.


"The magnificent heritage in architecture and sculpture, paintings, and other works of art and craftsmanship in Cracow and many other cities and villages of Poland, not only during the middle ages, but to some extent even later, up to the end of the 19th century, was for the most part the work of the Germans, who settled here and enrichened our culture. Almost every Pole knows about Veit Stoss. But not everybody knows that he was an ethnic German (credit must be paid here to Polish scholarship, because, in this case, definitive proof was adduced by the priest Boleslaw Przybyszewski; many people imagine that he was a Pole, and are ready to assault those who contradict them -- only specialists know the hundreds, nay, thousands, of first and last names of creative Germans who have left indelible traces in our culture."

Apart from the fact that the Poles were not "bequeathed" any heritage, but, to the contrary, committed land piracy, this paragraph from the pen of a Pole is a cultural act of greatness for which its author was compelled to pay with his freedom; and not only with his freedom, but with his health. The Polish press supplied proof of that in its own reports.

Falsifiers of history, liars, swindlers and deceitful rats, that's what they are.

By Else Loeser

Dr. Kurt Lueck and the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica.

http://www.cwporter.com/image.htm

No doubt, Germany has a bunch of inferior Turks raping German women. Britain has a bunch of inferior Paki's raping women. And then to put the icing on the cake, both Germany AND Britain receives inferior Polacks to rape the rest of the women!

The only reason Poland has less rapes by % of population and raw numbers of rapes, is:

1) They are all leaving the country for whiter pussy
2) They're raping abroad.

Raping them abroad won't really go as a percentage in Poland.

Or have you forgotten which thread we are in? :rofl

The Polish people only exist for a couple of main reasons;

a) To practice new weapons on
b) To steal from other nations
c) To rape


Since we don't need "a" any more, there is no need for Polish people to exist. I think I speak for all of us when I say that "b and c" is pretty self-evident, it's something we can do without.

"You are about the most stupid person I have ever met," that coming from my Swedish, Polish and and German mind. What you write has no credibility, because it has no basis in reality. You better start taking those anti-psychotic meds your doctor prescribed, and hurry!!!:eek::rofl:krofl:krofl:krofl

It is only natural for screams of "incitement to racial hatred" to be raised whenever the coddled, pampered Polish child receives a scolding. In reply, let it be said that I cite exclusively texts originating in Polish literature or history, that is, admissions made by the Poles themselves, for which they alone are responsible

Contemporary research has dealt with the question of the Eastern German settlement areas with typically German thoroughness, and in so doing it has reached findings which can no longer be thoughtlessly ignored. Even the Poles will be compelled to recognize these truths, if genuine reconciliation between both peoples is to become a reality.


The history of the settlement of an area is determinative for all time. Culture is not created by force or by lies, but only by intellectual work on the part of the elite of a people. Rights and ownership arise only by reason of the achievements of a people brought into fullness in a geographical area. There is no culture of weapons, no culture of lies. Only history provides an insight into the identity of the real founders of an ethnic culture.



I described the origins of the Polish nationality in my previous text, "Falsifications of Polish History", in which I limited myself to the briefest possible discussion. Here again, I must return to the beginnings of Polish historical writings in the briefest manner possible.


All Polish history books, indeed all Polish literature, including the so-called "Letter of Reconciliation" from the Polish bishops Stefan Wyszynski and Karol Woytyla to the German bishops in 1956, refer to Miseszko I as the "first Polish Duke", who took the Holy Sacrament of baptism in the year 966.


Of course, at the same time, this constitutes proof that no Polish empire existed in 966, since Miezszko was the "first"; furthermore, he was not a Pole, but rather, a Norman named "Dago-Mesico", from the Norwegian family line of the Daglingers, who migrated into lands settled by the Germans on the Weichsel and Warthe. His baptism proves nothing at all -- certainly not that he was a Pole, or that he ever became a Pole: it only proves that Dago accepted Christianity. There are no records -- as scholars confirm today -- which ever mention -- even once -- a people bearing the name "Poles" or "Slavs" "in the area" at that time.

The re-writing of the cloister chronicles dating back to the year 966 -- the time of the first Christian baptism in the area -- was only completed at the expense of great time and effort. It was, after all, necessary to take the name of every well-known person, every village, every ordinary object, and give it a new name, while concealing one's objective. Artificial languages are not as difficult to devise or as unusual as one might at first imagine. synthetic languages are created with specific objectives and propagated in books and groups even today, such as Esperanto, for example. *

The 1911 Encyclopaedia (Poland) remarks: "The first press from which books in the Polish language appeared was that of Hieronymus Wietor, a Silesian, who commenced publishing in 1515... the first complete work in the Polish language appeared from the press of this printer at Cracow in 1521...".

Polish belongs to the West Slavonic group of languages, several of which acquired written form, with many German loan words, only in the 19th century.

Today, we are in a position to see how our own experience of the very recent past is falsified on a daily basis. Since 1945, the German past -- not just the National Socialist period but even the Weimar Republic and the Empire of the Kaisers -- has been re-written according to the requirements of the victors and the ruling hierarchy.

It took almost 300 years for a so-called Polish conversational language to arise from the glagolitic church Latin of the monks. The city of Cracow, which according to the statements of Polish historians remained German until the late 15th century, held out the longest. But as it was impossible to cause the German chronicles to disappear, they continue to provide mute evidence, even today.

The following comments were made by one of the most respected Polish scholars of his time, Alexander Brueckner (despite his German name, he considered himself ethnically Polish), Professor at the University of Berlin until WWII:

"German settlement, especially in the cities, was beneficial to both sides. The Germans provided the standard of living, the Poles provided order. The role of the cities was truly educational. The two peoples learned to respect each other; to live together; to respect the law; "German" urban legal proceedings (law and procedure) was progressive compared to "Polish" domestic procedures. The cities created trades and professions, which had hitherto existed only as a potential. The cities contributed to the wealth of the whole country, as well as to the general standard of living. They created the basis for schools and universities, which could only function in a well-managed city."


The history of German immigration in Poland is known to most people only in its general outlines. In my first publication, "Poland and Falsifications of History", I stated that the regions of Weichsel and Warthe at the time of the introduction of Christianity were not even inhabited by Poles, and that the newly founded cloisters were forced to recruit German peasants and artisans from the German Reich. In this connection, Professor Grabski of the University of Warsaw writes as follows (p. 54):


"The cloisters founded by the Germans in Poland began to draw emigrants from Germany, Flanders, and other areas, as early as the 12th century, in order to achieve more efficient land management. Polish peasants were very unreliable as settlers."

The Pole Dabrowski described the activity of German farmers in the following manner:
"The Germans lived in closed cities and open villages, in village farmhouses and manors, occupying themselves with artisanship, trade, farming, soldiering, and the word of God. Since they were hardworking, peaceful and economical, they were a socially creative element representing a model for the domestic population."


The Poles always brag that Casimir the Great took over a "wooden Poland", and left it a "Poland made of stone". Lueck gives the Polish historian Bruecker an opportunity to express himself in the following terms (p. 23):


"It was not Casimir the Great who changed 'wooden Poland' into a 'Poland of masonry and stone': it was the cities that accomplished this. There was a tremendous difference between the German Cracow of 1300 and the Bishop's Cracow of 1200 -- and this applies not just to Cracow, but to every other city."


The Pole Czeckanowski confirms German research on "Polish" racial and biological descendance from the Germans in the following two sentences (p. 103):

"In the rise of our city population, German immigrants played a very great role. Their descendants today form part of the highest strata of the Polish patriciandom."

Another Polish historian has also concerned himself with the significance of the German city founders and citizens; he is the very respected and serious cultural historian Ptasnik (p. 131).


"It is uncomfortable to write about the history of trade and professions in Poland, and even sadder to describe the magnificent men who rendered service in this connection. Certainly, there was Polish trade, in the sense that it took place on Polish soil, importing goods from abroad, selling them to the Polish population, and exporting domestic raw products to foreign countries. But who were the merchants and tradesmen, who carried on the trade? Germans mostly -- Poles only came along at the end."


What Ptasnik (p. 22) as well as Grodecki (p. 23) were compelled to admit with regards to earlier times also applies, with some reservations, to Poland during the 17th century. Ptasnik writes:


"Insofar as it applies to earlier times, that is, around the 13th and 14th centuries, those who immigrated into the newly founded cities were primarily German population groups; at least, the strata that gave the city its national character, namely, the tradesmen and artisans, were German. The name of the citizens who took part in city government, whose names are recorded in the archives even today, testify expressly to this fact."

Another Polish testimony to the value of German work of construction is given by Sokolowski (p. 136):

"Honour must be paid to these careful, assiduous, hardworking, and energetic descendants who, though they came from foreign lands, acquired a liking for their new homeland, were loyal to their King and city; who brought culture to the rough soil of our earth, uniting us with the world of the West and sealing our link to Latin culture. In the tops of the Cracow towers, in the bastions surrounding the city, in the construction of houses, in commercial and art objects, in everything that is dear to us, everything which forms the pride of our city, we may perceive traces of the influence of the Franks, which, together with the influence of the Italian Renaissance, created the Golden Age of our history."


On page 330 of his work "German Construction Work in the Development of Poland", Lueck quotes the Pole Tadeusz Smarzewski, in the agricultural newspaper "Kraj" in January 1901: "...Only those who are unacquainted with history due to the present circumstances of nationalities in the Prussian part of the territory could be depressed by this picture "of German construction work". Those who, by contrast, possess a more exact knowledge of history from childhood on, and who know what to expect in Greater Poland, will feel differently. Anyone who knows that these provinces had already long reflected a land with a mixed population, that the cities of West Prussia bore a German character even during the ancient Republic of the Nobles, and that the great Polish cities possessed an overwhelmingly German middle class, will be far less disappointed."


In like manner, an equally, extraordinarily positive view of the Germans and the value of their construction work, published in the "Gazeta Polska" in 1901, is quoted by Lueck on pages 451-2. It confirms that not all Poles have adopted the so-called "traditional hostility" as the sole basis of their dealings with Germany: many excellent historians have shown a dedication to the truth, and have also attempted to do justice to the truth. But they were the minority, and are ignored by their ill-willed brethren. Here is the translation of a note published in the Polish original text of Prus-Glowacki:


"We always had the best possible relations with the German people. From them, we acquired the Gothic style in building, wood cutting, numerous mechanical devices, vessels, and tools, a great deal of scientific knowledge, trades and textiles, trade, many customs, and many forms of organization... We have no fear of the truth: to this noble people we owe the greater part of our civilization."


These Poles have done their fatherland a greater service than those who, dripping with envy and hatred caused by their feelings of inferiority, describe the Germans as the progeny of Hell. The German Polish border was at peace for more than 300 years.

During this period, the Germans achieved incomparable feats of culture which benefited the country. Of course, they didn't do so for the country's sake alone; they did it for their own well-being as well -- it could hardly be otherwise -- but the greatest beneficiary was the country itself. Allegations to the contrary notwithstanding, the Germans did not engage in compulsory "Germanization"; on the contrary, they were often forced to resist an extremely violent "Polonization". They were compelled to defend themselves against the forced assimilation of German Catholics as Poles. The excessively emotional, egotistical Poles only acknowledge measures taken in their favour; they are not objective. The Poles always consider their "Polonization" programmes to be justified, no matter how violent they may be; measures taken by others in self-defence, on the other hand, are considered an injustice committed against themselves.



But back to the Doenhoff family chronicle, which reveals still another important piece of information. In relation to the allegedly "originally Slavic" area of East Prussia, the Countess, based on her documentation, remarks as follows:


"Since we are dealing with errors at this point, reference may be made to another inexact allegation: East Prussia was never originally Slavic territory, into which the Germans penetrated as conquerors; rather, the Slavs appeared quite late on the Weichsel and Oder, no earlier than around the 9th century A.D. Germans had already inhabited the area for 1500 years. As early as 1000 B.C., the Goths inhabited the mouth of the Weichsel, and remained in the area... At the time of the birth of Christ, East and West Prussia were both inhabited by Goths, and the region of Posen was inhabited by Burgundians."


There were, therefore, no "original Slavic areas" on the Weichsel, Warthe, Oder, and Pregel.


The 1911 Encylopaedia Britannica, "Slavs", vol. XXV p. 229, states: "In spite of the prevalent brachycephaly of the modern Slavs, measurements of skulls from cemeteries and ancient graves which are certainly Slavonic have shown, against all expectations, that the farther back we go, the greater is the proportion of long heads, and the race appears to have been originally dolichocephalic and osteologically indistinguishable from its German, Baltic, and Finnish neighbours."

Author's note: Proof that the Polish language and glagolitic monks' Latin were still generally unknown as late as the 15th century is the "the parchment document with attached lead seal" of King Casimir of Danzig", dated 1466. It begins as follows: "Kazimirus von gots gnade konig zsu Polan, grosforste in Lythawin, in Rewssin, Prewssin herre und erbeling etc. bekennen und thun kunth... "I, Casimir, king of Poland by grace of God, great prince of Lithuania, lord and heir in Russia, Prussia, and heir etc., hereby acknowledge and announce... i.e., the document is in archaic German and not Polish.". It might be observed that the term is not "Polen" "Poland" but rather "Polan", i.e., "po" (Germanic "an", "am", "bei" = near", and "lan", derived from the Germanic = "arable land, field, land". (See my remarks on page 24, part I, "Falsifications".).


The present day also furnishes examples of what happens to people in Poland who undertake research into authentic history. The Polish literary historian, Jan Josef Lipski, made the attempt: he was arrested and thrown into prison. His crime, in particular, consisted of the following passage in his history of culture:

"A mass of false myths and concepts has arisen in the Polish mind regarding our historical relations with the Germans, which, for the sake of truth and our own well-being, must be cleansed of lies once and for all. False statements on one's own history are a sickness in the soul of a nation, which, in particular, can only lead to hostility to foreigners and national megalomania." And he adds: "Almost everyone in Poland -- even the educated -- believes today that, after the Second World War, we moved into an area which had been stolen from us by the Germans. We need only mention Danzig and the Ermland, which were among the lands given to the First Republic under the Second Peace of Thorn (1466), although both Danzig and the Emland were ethnically German in the majority, then and until the end of WWII. The rest of East Prussia was never Polish; the Germans did not take this area away from Poland, they took it from the Prussians..."

Elsewhere, Lipski says: "After centuries of development of German culture, side by side with Polish culture in Silesia (the overwhelmingly German city of Danzig) and the long since exclusively German culture of West Pomerania, a rich heritage of architecture and other works, in addition to German historical archive materials, was bequeathed to us as the result of historical events. We are the trustees of this material for all of humanity. We are therefore obliged to maintain these treasures in full awareness that we are safeguarding a heritage of German culture for the future -- including our future -- without lies, and without concealing the origin of this material. People in Poland don't like to write about this, or to be reminded of our debt to the Germans in terms of civilization and culture: our styles of roofing, brickwork, our masons, printers, painters, sculptors, and hundreds of Polish words, are all evidence of debt to our Western neighbour.


"The magnificent heritage in architecture and sculpture, paintings, and other works of art and craftsmanship in Cracow and many other cities and villages of Poland, not only during the middle ages, but to some extent even later, up to the end of the 19th century, was for the most part the work of the Germans, who settled here and enrichened our culture. Almost every Pole knows about Veit Stoss. But not everybody knows that he was an ethnic German (credit must be paid here to Polish scholarship, because, in this case, definitive proof was adduced by the priest Boleslaw Przybyszewski; many people imagine that he was a Pole, and are ready to assault those who contradict them -- only specialists know the hundreds, nay, thousands, of first and last names of creative Germans who have left indelible traces in our culture."

Apart from the fact that the Poles were not "bequeathed" any heritage, but, to the contrary, committed land piracy, this paragraph from the pen of a Pole is a cultural act of greatness for which its author was compelled to pay with his freedom; and not only with his freedom, but with his health. The Polish press supplied proof of that in its own reports.

Falsifiers of history, liars, swindlers and deceitful rats, that's what they are.

By Else Loeser

Dr. Kurt Lueck and the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica.

http://www.cwporter.com/image.htm

All that can be said of your so-called sources in this latest insane, and I am being charitable here, screed of a post is that they are National Socialist revisionists who were writing to justify an invasion and conquest of Poland in WWII.:eek::D:krofl:krofl:krofl You will have to do much better, dimwit.;) Also, as to your one link, the only thing which can be verified, is that it is a revisionist site, and of no scholarly value.:rofl If you want to be taken at all seriously by anyone who is not a rabid, foaming at the mouth, Poland hater, my advice is to use reputable, scholarly sources and links to legitimate historical internet sites. By the way, your citing technique is deficient (sucks) by any standard, rendering anything you have posted above useless. Oh, and just in case you hadn't noticed, the Encyclopedia Britannica has been updated since 1911; a lot more is known today.:eek:;)

All that can be said of your so-called sources in this latest insane, and I am being charitable here, screed of a post is that they are National Socialist revisionists who were writing to justify an invasion and conquest of Poland.

You just lost all credibility.
The 1911 Encyclopaedia (Poland) remarks: "The first press from which books in the Polish language appeared was that of Hieronymus Wietor, a Silesian, who commenced publishing in 1515... the first complete work in the Polish language appeared from the press of this printer at Cracow in 1521...".

Is this National Socialist, Raving Lunatic?

Alexander Brueckner (despite his German name, he considered himself ethnically Polish), Professor at the University of Berlin until WWIIIs this a National Socialist?
Professor Grabski of the University of Warsaw writes as follows (p. 54):Is Professor Grabski of the University of Warsaw a National Socialist, Raving Lunatic?

The Pole Dabrowski described the activity of German farmers in the following manner: Is the Pole Dabrowski a National Socialist?

Lueck gives the Polish historian Bruecker an opportunity to express himself in the following terms (p. 23):Is Breucker who considers himself a Polish a National Socialist?


The Pole Czeckanowski confirms German research on "Polish" racial and biological descendance from the Germans in the following two sentences (p. 103Is Czeckanowski a National Socialist?

Another Polish historian has also concerned himself with the significance of the German city founders and citizens; he is the very respected and serious cultural historian Ptasnik (p. 131).Is Ptasnik a National SOcialist?

What Ptasnik (p. 22) as well as Grodecki (p. 23) were compelled to admit with regards to earlier times also applies, with some reservations, to Poland during the 17th century. Ptasnik writes:What about Grodecki, Raving Lunatic?

Another Polish testimony to the value of German work of construction is given by Sokolowski (p. 136)Perhaps Sokolowski?

Tadeusz Smarzewski, in the agricultural newspaper "Kraj" in January 1901No? Maybe Smarzewski was a National Socialist?

As for the Encyclopedia of 1911, no shit that alot has been updated, alot of bullshit. As pointed out by the Polish Historians who so kindly assisted with this truthful record of historical events.


Should I list more sources Raving Lunatic? None of the sources are Revisionist, you fucking stupid cunt. the article was composed by Carlos Porter, the sources however fat little Yank, is anything but "National Socialist".

You have now demonstrated that no one should ever take you seriously. Not a single one of those sources mentioned there, historians, Ethnic researches, demographical scientists etc, have any interest in excusing an "invasion" since they are all FUCKING POLISH!. Stick to negative repping when you can't argue your point.

Only a complete and utter imbecile would argue that the sources used are "Nazi and bias" and that "It's inaccurate because Porter is a Revisionist", do you honestly think you can discredit historical work done by reputable Polish historians simply on the basis that it's mentioned by a Revisionist? Book reviews are a commonality cave dweller. It's been done for decades. Should try reading one sometime, perhaps you'll grow a functioning brain.

Congratulations Dogman. By starting this thread, you achieved your purpose of dividing VNN'ers.

We'll benefit from it, though. It helps prove why we White Americans should keep our noses out of historical European hatreds caused by ancient wars.

American WNs should have zero tolerance for the crypto kikes and irresponsible punks on here, who try to divide us on the basis of which European country our ancestors came from.

Congratulations Dogman. By starting this thread, you achieved your purpose of dividing VNN'ers.

Dividing about what? I always like to discuss issue's even if at times it gets aggressive, I rarely if ever make it a personal issue, we've had a disagreement before, it won't prevent me from recognizing a valuable contribution you make tomorrow.

The issue here however is that Ravening Lunatic knew precisely what my position was on this matter, as I had addressed it to him in Private Messenger, he deliberately provoked it by making statements of the comparative nature between Poland's ratio of rape victims compared to that of Germany and Britain.

As though suggesting something off about these countries cultural heritage, I merely pointed out why it is, he chose to take this matter further. His actions were pre-meditated. Be more weary of those who are eager to yell "kike kike" my friend. They are oft the ones who have sly malicious intentions.

We'll benefit from it, though. It helps prove why we White Americans should keep our noses out of historical European hatreds caused by ancient wars.

That's what made America great up till 1916, it recognized Europe as the land of it's forefathers, recognized the differences in it and prefered to remain isolated from it.

American WNs should have zero tolerance for the crypto kikes and irresponsible punks on here, who try to divide us on the basis of which European country our ancestors came from.

Divide? divide what precisely? in order to pose a threat of dissent, there must be something that could be lost, what precisely would be lost here? Ravening Wolf already lost his mind, going as far as to say that Polish historians (and historians prior to National Socialist Germany) attempted to excuse an invasion that happened either to their "homeland", or long after they had written their works.

Nothing else could be lost in this thread, other than perhaps a few conceptual beliefs about the farce that's called Poland.

Hey, the guy is an ass hole. He is a loony. Nutsoooo.
Thats the bottom line here. Nothing more or less.

Rounder's dead-on about dogeater.

Every one of this fuckstick's posts attempt to portray Whites in a negative light. He drops in, makes his post, and then sits back and laughs as the arguments begin.

I really don't believe that VNN sees more than an occasional real anti or intentional agitator, but this dogman character is clearly here for no other purpose than to divide.

American WNs should have zero tolerance for the crypto kikes and irresponsible punks on here, who try to divide us on the basis of which European country our ancestors came from.


Just the other day you were preaching about the supremacy of Germans, who aren't even a race, over ALL other groups. Guess that makes you and irresponsible punk or a crypto kike. ;)

Just the other day you were preaching about the supremacy of Germans, who aren't even a race, over ALL other groups. Guess that makes you and irresponsible punk or a crypto kike. ;)

You're a liar. Here's what I actually said:

(quote)
"Germans have a perfect right to hate white Americans. To utterly dispise us, even. My God, look what we did to them prior to, during, and subsequent to WWI and WWII.

Germanic valor and sacrifices on the fields of battle fighting the ZOGs are unmatched anywhere, anytime by any other people. A fact, no honest WN will deny.

Therefore, when and if, the goddamned jews are deposed, Germany should be afforded special status, distinct from all other white nations. The world owes them that, especially the Poles, the Brits, the Russians, and us "mixed" white Americans.

And to deny Germanic superiority, is to acquiesce to racial equality. Simple, irrefutable logic all informed WNs know well, and all honest WNs admit, regardless of their own blood.

Sieg Heil !!!
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NOTE: The words "Germanic" and "Germans" have different meanings. Read my postings more carefully in future, before shooting off your mouth about them. In other words, at least try to live up to the extremely low literary standards you've set for yourself.

Goddamn, Miller; you really are a worthless, drunken retard.
You don't even have the sense to differentiate between "German" and "Germanic".

Thank god your liver will shut down within a couple more years. Hope you enjoy that... it's gonna be slow and painful. :)

I love my people, regardless of whether your a Pollock or an Irishman.

Chew on this one, Hitler was the illigitimate grandson of a Rothchild. His grandmother was one of their maids, and she had an illigitimate bastard as a result, and Adolph had some jew blood in him.

He was also responsible for killing over 20 million good "White" men.Fuck Hitler.

I have kept my mouth shut till now, all you fuckin Seig Heil assholes can kiss my "Proud White Ass".
I am a Proud White Guy, and think all this bullshit about National Socialism, Communism, and Bolshevism is pure bullshit.

I love my people, and we know who we are, the rest can go fuck themselves.

I grew up on the south side of Chicago, and most of my friends had parents that were from the old country.They spoke Croatian, Polish, German, Italian, but they were all "White"

We all lived together and didn't have too many problems, except everyone thought they were better then the other. It's called racial pride. We all have it, and thats a good thing.

I have heard the concentration camp stories, by the way, they weren't jews, they were us "Whites"

We suffered far more then the fuckin jews, so let's get together, and stop this shit, our race is dying and we are splitting hairs about our ethnicity.

Let's close this thread and call it a day. If your "White" your mine, if your not, go fuck yourself.

I have kept my mouth shut till now, all you fuckin Seig Heil assholes can kiss my "Proud White Ass".
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Everyone has their heroes. Use their biases to your advantage.

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http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/megadeth/holy+wars_20091437.html

Chew on this one, Hitler was the illigitimate grandson of a Rothchild. His grandmother was one of their maids, and she had an illigitimate bastard as a result, and Adolph had some jew blood in him.
He was also responsible for killing over 20 million good "White" men.Fuck Hitler.

Yeah, pretty sure hitler's not a kike. Let's see, Hitler kicked the Jew out of Germany, while your here on VNN giving props to your Polish homeboys.