I received this letter today, postmarked Kearny, New Jersey. It purports to be from Hal Turner, but I believe it's bogus.

Hal C. Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Rd.
Unit A1
North Bergen, N.J. 07047

January 13, 2008

Alex Linder
POB 101
Kirksville MO 63501

Dear Alex:

My name is Hal Turner and I a former white national. As you know by now I have gone off the airwaves. My web site has since shutdown and I am currently on hiatus from spewing hate. The reason I left my show was due to lack of funding as well as moral support from my fellow white nationals. I have spent seven years begging for money from them to no avail. Alex, I have also spend time working for the FBI as an informant. I assisted them in catching and testifying against white nationals. Why did I do this you ask? I did this because I knew what I was doing was wrong. I spend many years working with people from diverse backgrounds. It was only a matter of time before the white power movement collapsed. While I have made many friends in the WN movement, I also made many enemies, you in particular. Those friends that I meet are free to visit my home anytime they want; however, from this point forward, I am separating myself from the WN movement and all things associated with it. I am trying to reform myself. Alex, I personally invite you and your associates to my home in North Bergen, NJ anytime you wish. While I still have friends in the WN movement, I do not longer associate with them since I have more or less betrayed them with my connections with the FBI. Yes, it is true, I am a FBI informant. Please email me at: Info@PrivateWebHosting.org and we will talk further. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Hal C. Turner - Former White National

This seems like a fake to me. If you have any questions Alex, why don't you call HT and discuss this with him?

I don't know what to say about HT. He had a good show but he would also say some nutty things.

hal used to use a family seal thingy like a noter does, not sure if the new hal does though and any wn hosting on his servers might aswell just turn their server and ip logs over to the fbi.

If Hal Turner hasn't written you before why would he do that now? The letter is as bogus as Bill White's ANSWP.

Didn't you meet Hal in Knoxville Alex? Why would he start a letter with "My name is Hal Turner?"

Hal's more articulate than the letter above.

The email given at the end is interesting... that's one of his emails, but...

All in all, I'm guessing someone's playing disinformation games. Hal's gone down for some reason other than lack of funding, and it looks like someone's trying to lure Alex behind the woodshed as well.

Just my quick opinion.

Alex,

Today I recieved messages from people telling me that I was right last year when I had heard from a trusted friend that told me that Hal Turner was a police informant. This was my response:

"Yes, I did hear what happened with Hal, but I haven´t yet read the so-
called "evidence" that you sent me. I did always have my suspicions
about Hal Turner, but that doesn´t mean much because I´m suspicious of
anyone that claims to be speaking up for the white race and so should
everyone else be! Many people are suspiocious about me and this group
and I think that is healthy. I found out long ago that fear and
suspicion are GOOD because they keep you alive. When I was younger I
was pretty fearless (or some would say foolish), and I paid the price
for my foolishness by going to prison and almost getting killed on
several occasions in and out of jail, motorcycle accidents, unsafe
sex, committing crimes, etc, etc. So, I know the price of being
foolhardy!"

"At this point, I´m not convinced that Hal Turner is or was an
informant, a cop or FBI officer, but I have had my doubts for a very
long time becuase the guy has said so many outrageous things that
surely would have gotten most people arrested by now and he never did.
He claims he "never stepped over the line" but stayed within "his
rights of free speech", but others have said far less and have been
taken down by the Judeo-Masonic rulers. Then, when Hal Turner started
requesting people´s identification to sign up for a forum and radio
show, that certainly raised the flag of suspicion, but still, alot of
people went along with it (against my advice), and now their personal
details are in a database somewhere as an anti-semite, anti-government
activist - that is IF he is indeed an informant.

But, what most people are NOT asking themselves at this point is: Who
was it that hacked his website? The average joe wanna-be hacker cannot
easily hack a system like that, regardless of what they´ll tell you!
So, perhaps, the FBI or Mossad or whoever probably hacked in (and we
all know they have this type of capability) and are now claiming that
they found this information. The trouble is that most people never
think for themselves and are too easily manipulated by the very people
that are trying to destroy us (and doing a good job at it). That´s my
opinion.

The IWF and myself, will never ask you for personal details or
identification. That´s my promise to you all!
R. James" http://groups.google.com/group/iwf1/browse_thread/thread/4f1bff36c37860fd#f455fb11f4802bfc
-----------------------------------------------------------

It sounds like a set-up to me. Unfortunately, too many people are willing to believe what they´re told by the very people that are trying to destroy whatever white unity exists (and they´re doing a pretty damn good job at it!)
I can tell you personally that all of these daily false accusations, curses and internet bravado can really take a toll on you! But, when I need a break I take one and then pick myself up, dust myself off and get back in the ring for another round! I figure I´m gonna die someday and have no fear of it. And, there´s no point in being alive if you don´t live with passion in your heart and act according to your deepest beliefs - otherwise what´s the point of it all? R. James

The writer of that letter clearly didn't know that Hal and Alex had met each other in Knoxville if not some time prior to that time. If I were Alex I would recommend highly that he keep the letter for future reference but avoid making contact with or writing back to the physical and e-mail addresses listed in the honey pot, er ... "letter."

The jew gives us all a choice. Resist and suffer or comply and live comfortably.

We are given the untenable choice of doing what we feel is expedient for our family today or what is beneficial for our collective progeny tomorrow. Many of us have wives who cannot see tomorrow and we're given the more untenable choice of staying the course and winding-up with a divorce and thus starving our children of the necessary nuclear family sustenance or purposely turning our backs on the greater truth for the sake of our immediate family.

The process of deciding becomes more difficult with the added duress of ZOG myopically focused upon us and relentlessly applying financial and psych-op pressure while at the same time holding out the promise of relief should we publicly acquiesce to the jew.

While I don't believe Hal is the author of this letter, I believe that he did indeed struggle under the pressure as I've briefly tendered above. This may have been written by a fed or by one of Hal's well known arch enemies as there are many with ulterior motive to do so.

This is not the only statement attributed to Hal where it was said that he was turning his back on the cause. This declaration was also made on Hal's website, if I'm not mistaken.

Nevertheless, all of us realize that it's impossible to go back. Unless we're a liar.

.

I received this letter today, postmarked Kearny, New Jersey. It purports to be from Hal Turner, but I believe it's bogus.

Hal C. Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Rd.
Unit A1
North Bergen, N.J. 07047

January 13, 2008

Alex Linder
POB 101
Kirksville MO 63501

Dear Alex:

My name is Hal Turner and I a former white national. As you know by now I have gone off the airwaves. My web site has since shutdown and I am currently on hiatus from spewing hate. The reason I left my show was due to lack of funding as well as moral support from my fellow white nationals. I have spent seven years begging for money from them to no avail. Alex, I have also spend time working for the FBI as an informant. I assisted them in catching and testifying against white nationals. Why did I do this you ask? I did this because I knew what I was doing was wrong. I spend many years working with people from diverse backgrounds. It was only a matter of time before the white power movement collapsed. While I have made many friends in the WN movement, I also made many enemies, you in particular. Those friends that I meet are free to visit my home anytime they want; however, from this point forward, I am separating myself from the WN movement and all things associated with it. I am trying to reform myself. Alex, I personally invite you and your associates to my home in North Bergen, NJ anytime you wish. While I still have friends in the WN movement, I do not longer associate with them since I have more or less betrayed them with my connections with the FBI. Yes, it is true, I am a FBI informant. Please email me at: Info@PrivateWebHosting.org and we will talk further. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Hal C. Turner - Former White National

Why I believe this letter is bogus.

- white national, rather than nationalist.
- shutdown one word rather than two
- saying I in particular was an enemy. No basis for this.
- inviting me to his house after calling me an enemy
- misuse of 'spend' for spent (2x)

Why I believe this letter is bogus.

- white national, rather than nationalist.
- shutdown one word rather than two
- saying I in particular was an enemy. No basis for this.
- inviting me to his house after calling me an enemy
- misuse of 'spend' for spent (2x)

Alex,

Due to the reasons you just posted, which were essentially identical to what I was typing in the 'Quick Reply' box, I agree.

It sounds like a negro or other anti-type that is attempting to pose as Hal. I wouldn't be surprised if this might be some sort of channer activity, since if you recall, several were located in the New Jersey area near Hal and showed up at the 'party' they had a year ago.


T.N.B.T.J.B.

Yes, I suspect an anti-, ARA or foreigner wrote this. It has the appearance of a half-literate nigger trying to be clever.

Yes, I suspect an anti-, ARA or foreigner wrote this. It has the appearance of a half-literate nigger trying to be clever.

"Half-literate nigger" strikes me as an oxymoron.

Wow. That has got to be the most blatantly obvious fake ever recorded in the history of man.

The person who wrote that is either a complete moron, or this was a joke.

"I am currently on hiatus from spewing hate"...

That was your first clue. No one of reasonable intelligence who understands rhetoric would ever say that they "spew hate".

...and I don't think Hal would do it, either. :p

j/k Hal, you fucking quitter, you.

Hal confirms this letter is bogus.

"I sent no letter."

You White Nationals need too get your act together:rofl

Does Hal also confirm his reasons for having nothing further to do with White Nationalism? Furthermore, does he realize the demoralizing effect that his irresponsible statements inflict upon so many of his dedicated listeners?

If he needed a hiatus, he has the verbal skills and the wherewithal to indicate that need without making it seem that WN was something cheap and easy to turn one's back on.

Having said this, I also realize that the feds could have had Hal over a barrel and that he might have been faced with the choice of jail or self-imposed exile.

If ZOG could take down the twin towers right before our eyes, what's to stop them from crushing a lone White man?

.

Alex and every here at VNNF:
The letter sent to Alex is fake. The same letter was also sent to my local newspaper "The Jersey Journal" who called me today trying to verify it was from it me. It was not and it will not be published by them.

The letter is just one more example of how far people will go to smear me.

When my server was hacked between Christmas and New Years' Eve, one of the people involved in that contacted me to warn me of efforts to discredit me. He told me the attackers would fabricate "something to discredit me" in their effort to get me off the air and off the net.

During my January 2 show, I warned my audience this effort was going to take place. I told everyone that I didn't know what form the smears would take, but to prepare for them.

A day or two later, fabricated e-mails between me and the FBI came out. Sadly, quite a number of folks on this forum and elsewhere were completely willing to believe those e-mails. It was a smear from which I would never be able to recover because of the levels of paranoia existing throughout this "movement."

Our own people chose to side with Daryl Lamont Jenkins from One People Project and Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center by believing THEM over me! With loyalty like that on our side, no one will ever succeed. They will always be able to divide and conquer.

Rather than waste more time, money and emotional energy fighting yet another battle, I chose to walk away.

The Knoxville Rally was disappointing for the low turnout. Two healthy, decent white kids brutally gang raped and murdered by 5 Negro savages. . . . weeks and weeks of promoting the event on my site and other sites only to have 26 people turned out for the rally!

The Kalamazoo Rally absolutely broke my heart. 8 weeks notice for that rally on my site, VNNF and other sites. Countless e-mails to dozens of "pro-white groups." A legitimate cause at a central location in the country. A rally on a weekend in the summer, during good weather with no holidays to interfere. . . . . . and only 55 people came.

Al Sharpton calls a rally in Jena, LA and gets 500 bus loads of niggers. Hal Turner calls a rally and can't even rely on 100 of our people to turn out. Pathetic.

In retrospect, Kalamazoo was really "the end" of me in the movement. I remember thinking to myself, why fight other people's battles? Why stand up for people who - a majority of whom - will NOT stand up for themselves? Why put up with all the smears and back-stabbing? And on top of all that, still have to struggle for money to make it all work?

No thanks. There was just no upside at all. I am emotionally spent and have nothing left to give.

Since I took my site down, the SPLC did their hit-piece about the puported FBI e-mails and a whole slew of "our people" chose to chime in with our enemy!

I broke my ass for seven years trying to do the best for our people and our people side with the enemy. Un-friggin-real!

I have walked away from the WN movement because in hind sight, the entire endeavor was a complete, total waste of time, money and emotional energy. While I value and respect the good people I met in the movement, I can say without reservation the majority are cowardly, jealous and petty.

I wish all of you well.

-- HT

Thanks for clearing that up, Hal.

There is much to what you say, but I think there is more to it, so we'll keep on.

Well, two sentences into that letter I could tell it was not from Hal Turner ... it was clearly written by an illiterate. Hal's complaints are all legitimate - too bad, too very bad - I hope things might change in the future.

Probably came from a low-IQ imbecile like Floyd Cochran or Daryle Lamont Jenkems.

hal,
I agree with what you are saying, thats is why I am not out there anymore to many Punks, Keyboard Commandos and Cowards that prefer to hide behind a monitor and think they are helping the struggle complaining. I could not find one person to pass out flyers here in NH. I am one of the few that paid for a subscription for your radio network, I enjoyed your shows for years. I wish you luck in the future hal. Thanks for all of your hard work.

One of those bloggers that is playing right into the hands of the jews is Michael Burk's

http://christianfrauds.blogspot.com

White Movement! Where?

What has become of the white race in America? They seem to be clueless and cowardly. I do not mean the folks at VNN or other white forums and such. I mean the masses. We have about 200 million whites in this nation. We should be in charge.
Instead we have put our destiny in charge to a handful of hate filled Kikes that are set out to destroy us.

In my short lifetime we have seen….

Borders erased and our nation invaded by hoards of filth
Our women think it is trendy and good to have mongrel children
The established churches are at the bidding of Jews
Entertainment has been subverted to be a form of programming
The education system is a federal mess of commie propaganda and anti-white rhetoric
Political leaders who cant try hard enough to please foreign masters
The process of the voluntary destruction of our nation, people, and race

I could go on and on. It is not by accident it is planned. And it ain’t planned by us!

What does it take to get fighting mad? Anything? Should we just curl up into a ball and wait for death?

I understand HT frustrations. The enemies of our people are very organized and effective. They are winning and we are simply going away into a history that will not remember us or our achievements. All without hardly a complaint let alone a fight.

HT did his best. No one is perfect. I know I am not. And all he got was nothing but a bunch of Shit.

I wish I had the answers but I do know this. There simply is no “White movement”. There is no future “Day of the Rope”. It is all wishful thinking.

I personally am doing my best to inform people I come in contact with about who rules and why but lets face it. It takes a special kind of person to be able to overcome a lifetime of Zionist programming and then understand about their own destruction. The masses have a hard time understanding what is at stake.

So, my hats off to people like Hal, Alex, Metzger, and Duke for going out there and doing their best. I know I will keep trying to do whatever I can to help our people and I suspect you all will too.

Turner has a weird fan in Kearny who likes to send out bizarre anonymous letters.

(Not to be mistaken for any of the good white activists from Kearny, BTW)

I received this letter today, postmarked Kearny, New Jersey. It purports to be from Hal Turner, but I believe it's bogus.

Hal C. Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Rd.
Unit A1
North Bergen, N.J. 07047

January 13, 2008

Alex Linder
POB 101
Kirksville MO 63501

Dear Alex:

My name is Hal Turner and I a former white national. As you know by now I have gone off the airwaves. My web site has since shutdown and I am currently on hiatus from spewing hate. The reason I left my show was due to lack of funding as well as moral support from my fellow white nationals. I have spent seven years begging for money from them to no avail. Alex, I have also spend time working for the FBI as an informant. I assisted them in catching and testifying against white nationals. Why did I do this you ask? I did this because I knew what I was doing was wrong. I spend many years working with people from diverse backgrounds. It was only a matter of time before the white power movement collapsed. While I have made many friends in the WN movement, I also made many enemies, you in particular. Those friends that I meet are free to visit my home anytime they want; however, from this point forward, I am separating myself from the WN movement and all things associated with it. I am trying to reform myself. Alex, I personally invite you and your associates to my home in North Bergen, NJ anytime you wish. While I still have friends in the WN movement, I do not longer associate with them since I have more or less betrayed them with my connections with the FBI. Yes, it is true, I am a FBI informant. Please email me at: Info@PrivateWebHosting.org and we will talk further. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Hal C. Turner - Former White National

Does Hal also confirm his reasons for having nothing further to do with White Nationalism? Furthermore, does he realize the demoralizing effect that his irresponsible statements inflict upon so many of his dedicated listeners?

If he needed a hiatus, he has the verbal skills and the wherewithal to indicate that need without making it seem that WN was something cheap and easy to turn one's back on.

Having said this, I also realize that the feds could have had Hal over a barrel and that he might have been faced with the choice of jail or self-imposed exile.

If ZOG could take down the twin towers right before our eyes, what's to stop them from crushing a lone White man?

.
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As Hal Turner and others have said, it often seems as if there is NO MOVEMENT, but there is one, you just need to have the eyes to see it and not have misguided expectations. White people ARE waking up and they are responding somewhat in their own time and in their own way. I can tell you that five years ago things were much different, but these days, I actually see other white people on the streets that are obvious Nationalists, if not outright racialists, like myself. Jew distrust and even hatred is at an all time high as far as I can tell in my lifetime. All spectrums of the political realm are downright anti-jew and anti-Israel these days - perhaps not at the top levels of Government, etc., but certainly at the grassroots level!

As things get worse, and we should all by now KNOW that things are indeed going to get worse and SOON! When that happens, and especially when economics go sour as the Jew leadership purposely destroys the economy, causes food shortages, cuts the water supply, and generally makes life hell for the common folk, white people will certainly and finally hear the voice of us screaming in the wilderness and take heed of our message. Many whites will still hold on to their multi-culti fantasies but the niggers and spics will eat them alive - an unfortunate but neccesary sacrifice.

Many whites will certainly side with the jews and risk their own asses to protect the jews in their basements, just as they were programmed to do in endless holohoax indoctrination, but in the end there will be a sizeable amount of white people left to fight the fight with eyes wide open and a new extremely determined attitude.

So, don´t lose faith people. When you feel overwhelmed, take a break, think things through and realize that it doesn´t even matter what anybody else is going to do - what matters is what YOU are doing and going to do when you have the chance. Life is for living and a happy life is a life filled with PASSION! My passion is this racial struggle and fighting for the preservation and upliftment of fellow whites, white solidarity and the beauty of the top white women in this world!

A big part of the problem that gives the sad illusion that "there is no movement" is the fact that there is no real agreement on how to proceed:
Some leaders such as Tom Metzger, who has been active longer than anybody else in this movement, says that only violent struggle is worth our time and energy, and speaks against public demonstrations. I, myself, have endosed this view in the past (but no longer). This "lone wolf" mentality has promoted to too many white people the idea that they shouldn´t group together for fear of being discovered by the Feds. This would be true if there were 5,000 white men out there blowing away niggers, jews and spics on a nightly basis, but they aren´t, therefore, this "lone wolf" garbage has only damaged the movement.

Others in the movement, like Richard Barrett of the Nationalist Movement, say that EVERYTHING must be scrupulously LEGAL and proper and to hide their true intentions and beliefs behind legalistic jargon and fight our enemies through lawsuits and demonstrations.

People like David Duke, claim that all we have to do is expose the jews and everything will change for the better through simply alerting other whites of the truth. When was the last time you heard of Duke at any sort of demonstration? I don´t think I ever have. Conferences don´t count as protests.

I think Hal Turner had alot of good ideas, but it seemed to me he was more concerned with competing with Howard Stern than with David Duke. How many public activist meetings have Hal Turner attended since his arrival on the scene since 2000? Five, six? If you believe in public activism of this sort and you want to be a "leader" perhaps he could have done better in that department. I haven´t done too many public activist campaigns myself, simply because I didn´t believe in them. I took the advice of Tom Metzger and have instead involved myself with more "direct action" style activism.

I could go on, but the point is that there is no consensus in the White Nationalist Movement on the best way to proceed, so this is one reason why it seems there is no movement. We DO have a movement, but it is just splintered. Add to this religious, class, political and even personal differences, and what you have is a movement with no center. Compound this on an international level (as I do), now you have ethnic, National, and language differences that stand in the way of unity and the appearance of a "movement" - but, it´s there!

I realize that I must do what I can for as long as I can, no matter what anybody else is going to do. What´s the alternative -to not fight this fight because I think we might not win? I get satisfaction from my efforts at spreading white solidarity and hatred of the nigger and jew demons, so why should I stop? I won´t!

Take a lesson from the jews- never forgive and never forget that the enemies of the white race including the race traitors sold you down the river, so WHEN you get the chance to repay their "kindness" - give it to them with both barrels!

I predict that Hal Turner will be back after he recharges his batteries and realizes that this racial activism is his passion and this passion is as good as any other reason for being alive and fighting this fight! I think he´ll learn, as I have, that you just can´t turn these feelings off, you can´t stop watching the news, in short, you can´t leave this all behind very easily. Yes, it wears you down, but after awhile, you get your resolve back and realize that you do this activism for yourself as much as for anybody else. You do it as much for hate of our enemies as much as for the love of our families, our culture and the white race-our extended family.

I, for one, will welcome him back, despite our past differences.

R. James

...will not be effective until our population declines substantially. Culling of the herd???

In twenty years when we are are a minority in every state, then...

Alex and every here at VNNF:
The letter sent to Alex is fake. The same letter was also sent to my local newspaper "The Jersey Journal" who called me today trying to verify it was from it me. It was not and it will not be published by them.

The letter is just one more example of how far people will go to smear me.

When my server was hacked between Christmas and New Years' Eve, one of the people involved in that contacted me to warn me of efforts to discredit me. He told me the attackers would fabricate "something to discredit me" in their effort to get me off the air and off the net.

During my January 2 show, I warned my audience this effort was going to take place. I told everyone that I didn't know what form the smears would take, but to prepare for them.

A day or two later, fabricated e-mails between me and the FBI came out. Sadly, quite a number of folks on this forum and elsewhere were completely willing to believe those e-mails. It was a smear from which I would never be able to recover because of the levels of paranoia existing throughout this "movement."

Our own people chose to side with Daryl Lamont Jenkins from One People Project and Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center by believing THEM over me! With loyalty like that on our side, no one will ever succeed. They will always be able to divide and conquer.

Rather than waste more time, money and emotional energy fighting yet another battle, I chose to walk away.

The Knoxville Rally was disappointing for the low turnout. Two healthy, decent white kids brutally gang raped and murdered by 5 Negro savages. . . . weeks and weeks of promoting the event on my site and other sites only to have 26 people turned out for the rally!

The Kalamazoo Rally absolutely broke my heart. 8 weeks notice for that rally on my site, VNNF and other sites. Countless e-mails to dozens of "pro-white groups." A legitimate cause at a central location in the country. A rally on a weekend in the summer, during good weather with no holidays to interfere. . . . . . and only 55 people came.

Al Sharpton calls a rally in Jena, LA and gets 500 bus loads of niggers. Hal Turner calls a rally and can't even rely on 100 of our people to turn out. Pathetic.

In retrospect, Kalamazoo was really "the end" of me in the movement. I remember thinking to myself, why fight other people's battles? Why stand up for people who - a majority of whom - will NOT stand up for themselves? Why put up with all the smears and back-stabbing? And on top of all that, still have to struggle for money to make it all work?

No thanks. There was just no upside at all. I am emotionally spent and have nothing left to give.

Since I took my site down, the SPLC did their hit-piece about the puported FBI e-mails and a whole slew of "our people" chose to chime in with our enemy!

I broke my ass for seven years trying to do the best for our people and our people side with the enemy. Un-friggin-real!

I have walked away from the WN movement because in hind sight, the entire endeavor was a complete, total waste of time, money and emotional energy. While I value and respect the good people I met in the movement, I can say without reservation the majority are cowardly, jealous and petty.

I wish all of you well.

-- HT

Just reading this is heart breaking, probably because most of what he states is true. :( Where are all the white soldiers to fight for our race? We have truly become a beaten, cowardly, fightless people, with no hope of ever regaining our dignity...but Hal you were born to do what you have dedicated your life to the past seven years, so take a breather, and come back stronger than ever. The future is bleak for our white race, but for those of us who believe wholeheartedly in fighting everday, it helps to know there are men like yourself to draw strength from listening to... so although you are discouraged, and with good reason...there are many that looked to you for support. You leaving disheartened many loyal listeners, and did nothing but win a victory for our enemies. Pray that God will give you the strength to re-join the battle for our people, and do what you do best...spread the truth about the jews and their nigger puppets.

It was only a matter of time before the white power movement collapsed.



LOL!!!

Keep dreamin' muthafucka! ITZ COMING!


(THANKS to whoever busted their asses to get the forum back up!)


-Jim

I received this letter today, postmarked Kearny, New Jersey. It purports to be from Hal Turner, but I believe it's bogus.

Hal C. Turner
1906 Paterson Plank Rd.
Unit A1
North Bergen, N.J. 07047

January 13, 2008

Alex Linder
POB 101
Kirksville MO 63501

Dear Alex:

My name is Hal Turner and I a former white national. As you know by now I have gone off the airwaves. My web site has since shutdown and I am currently on hiatus from spewing hate. The reason I left my show was due to lack of funding as well as moral support from my fellow white nationals. I have spent seven years begging for money from them to no avail. Alex, I have also spend time working for the FBI as an informant. I assisted them in catching and testifying against white nationals. Why did I do this you ask? I did this because I knew what I was doing was wrong. I spend many years working with people from diverse backgrounds. It was only a matter of time before the white power movement collapsed. While I have made many friends in the WN movement, I also made many enemies, you in particular. Those friends that I meet are free to visit my home anytime they want; however, from this point forward, I am separating myself from the WN movement and all things associated with it. I am trying to reform myself. Alex, I personally invite you and your associates to my home in North Bergen, NJ anytime you wish. While I still have friends in the WN movement, I do not longer associate with them since I have more or less betrayed them with my connections with the FBI. Yes, it is true, I am a FBI informant. Please email me at: Info@PrivateWebHosting.org and we will talk further. Thank you very much.

Sincerely,

Hal C. Turner - Former White NationalI am no fan of Hal Turner, but that is not his writing.

I still believe, however, the emails culled from his server by the channers (or goons or whatever they're calling themselves) are authentic.

LOL!!!

Keep dreamin' muthafucka! ITZ COMING!


(THANKS to whoever busted their asses to get the forum back up!)


-Jim

Yep, atta boys to Dietrich and Varg.

Btw Jim, now that it seems Kevin "pedo bear" Strom is soon to be sprung will you have him and Elisha on the show?:rofl

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Yes, I suspect an anti-, ARA or foreigner wrote this. It has the appearance of a half-literate nigger trying to be clever.

I'll go with a foreigner. I've never heard of a half-literate nigger writing that well. Funny stuff.


-Jim

I will admit, I liked Hal's shows, I don't know if he was a fed, blah blah blah. No I'm not retarded, he said some stuff that seemed to be over the line, and maybe they where legal in the way he "opined". I know, I know Hal said some crazy shit from time to time, etc. I know I'll get the calls in the morning for this, but he was a great speaker.... Hell, I even made this video..

The email is bullshit. Hal's made a decision, and so be it... But I still like to remember him a good light....

For the record, I've always wanted to say this, "The only thing that Alex hits, is the pavement", sorry Alex, but since it's been over 8 or 9 months I thought it was funny.....:rofl


YouTube - Call on Me - White men you can call on

Everything R. James said and more.

If you think White America and White Nationalism is done, if you think because Ron Paul caved on one issue and is disgraced, think again. Look at the basis of where things stand right now.

Let's take Ron Paul: as White Nationalists, many are willing to write him off because of the recent uproar, but many are not and are moving forward. Those moving forward comprise the youth of this country and they are clinging to his idealogy because they see his future as their future. They may not even be Libertarians but more likely paleoconservatives - the present isn't working so let's embrace past practices that are tried and true.

It is their future at stake and they know it. They have become, in the past few months, engaged, enlighted and willing not only to take action, but to put their money where their mouth is. They see a future for this country and by that consequence, for themselves. White America is the current driving force to change, be it through Ron Paul or otherwise, but I truly believe what is happening now cannot be stopped.

This is our future hope - our youth. They are awakening, they are aware, but they don't necessarily embrace the Hal Turner "violence cures all" hype. They are living proof that multiculturalism does not work because they have lived the lie from birth to the current moment. These are the people we need to pass the torch to - they may come to the conclusion that only violence works, but it is their future at stake now. They know it, they are aware, and they are finding their voice.

White Nationalism is in its infancy, people are talking about cultural bias and differences, and exploring avenues of change that will promote the White culture. I think there are difficult times ahead, but I think White America is ready for the challenge. I wouldn't even want to consider bowing out now, because the best is yet to come, and we are only getting started.

Hal is no fucking FED. He makes a valid point about people willing to believe the bullshit the SPLC puts out. I know I don't believe it.

I actually can't blame him for leaving.

I will admit, I liked Hal's shows, I don't know if he was a fed, blah blah blah. No I'm not retarded, he said some stuff that seemed to be over the line, and maybe they where legal in the way he "opined". I know, I know Hal said some crazy shit from time to time, etc. I know I'll get the calls in the morning for this, but he was a great speaker.... Hell, I even made this video..

The email is bullshit. Hal's made a decision, and so be it... But I still like to remember him a good light....

For the record, I've always wanted to say this, "The only thing that Alex hits, is the pavement", sorry Alex, but since it's been over 8 or 9 months I thought it was funny.....:rofl


YouTube - Call on Me - White men you can call on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYf0Gl9bKyY)

Everything R. James said and more.

I agree.

The kikes are going off on Paul because they know that he's edging closer to the territory they must defend at all costs, or lose their purchase on the US government, and therewith the world.

Race is what matters. Ron Paul and his ghostwriter Lew Rockwell know that. They don't dare say that, apart from in their private newsletters when they think no one but those who will pay are listening, but they know that. Their courage taps out at advocating race-neutrality, individualism, and the end of the Fed.

Behind LewRockwell eggheads and Ron Paul come we, the Whites, who are not fazed by shrieks of racist...

Keep up the fight, keep up the attack. I think people are more open than ever. Focus on the goal.

Hal is no fucking FED. He makes a valid point about people willing to believe the bullshit the SPLC puts out. I know I don't believe it.


Yeah, listen to Mike folks, his leader is a FED he of all people should know who is and who isn't one.

Hal Turner writes: In retrospect, Kalamazoo was really "the end" of me in the movement. I remember thinking to myself, why fight other people's battles? Why stand up for people who - a majority of whom - will NOT stand up for themselves? Why put up with all the smears and back-stabbing? And on top of all that, still have to struggle for money to make it all work?

No thanks. There was just no upside at all. I am emotionally spent and have nothing left to give.

You were never a White "racialist" or "nationalist", Hal. Once you are exposed to the truth about the Jew, there simply is no "going back" or "getting out". There are no strategic decisions that need be made regarding "upside" and "profitability". The truth resides IN YOU, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Show me a White racialist who is "emotionally spent" and has "nothing left to give", and I'll show you a White man who was always in it for himself.

No, Hal, "the end" for you came when you took your radio show "subscription only" and couldn't make a living from it. Before that, you played upon and profited from the weakest amongst us. The degenerates, sycophants, illiterates, and shit-talking fantacists were your economic lifeline, and yet now you claim they were the ones who "let you down"? The success of the Movement was never going to depend on them................and you knew it.

So please spend less time revising history and more time making it..............in whatever money-making venture you come up with next.

Hal is no fucking FED. He makes a valid point about people willing to believe the bullshit the SPLC puts out. I know I don't believe it.

I actually can't blame him for leaving.


When will you be following him out?

You were never a White "racialist" or "nationalist", Hal. Once you are exposed to the truth about the Jew, there simply is no "going back" or "getting out". There are no strategic decisions that need be made regarding "upside" and "profitability". The truth resides IN YOU, and there is nothing you can do about it.

Show me a White racialist who is "emotionally spent" and has "nothing left to give", and I'll show you a White man who was always in it for himself.

No, Hal, "the end" for you came when you took your radio show "subscription only" and couldn't make a living from it. Before that, you played upon and profited from the weakest amongst us. The degenerates, sycophants, illiterates, and shit-talking fantacists were your economic lifeline, and yet now you claim they were the ones who "let you down"? The success of the Movement was never going to depend on them................and you knew it.

So please spend less time revising history and more time making it..............in whatever money-making venture you come up with next.


My take: Turner either sent the letter with the deliberate grammar mistakes or had someone send it in order to cast doubt on the authentic emails he was exchanging with his FBI handler. The guy is not above doing this. He knows the movement is full of knuckledraggers like "rockynh" ( or maybe that's another sock puppet?) that will buy ANY BULLSHIT.

Let the drag go. Now we can direct resources to real WNist Radio like VNNR or http://www.resist.com/audio

TT is running a special this month. 5 bucks a month for a different show EVERY DAY. I urge all WNs to support this effort.

Yeah, listen to Mike folks, his leader is a FED he of all people should know who is and who isn't one.

What can you say about Bluvie? Turnerstein kicked him off his network and then spit into his microphone as he was ripping him another one. Proof positive that there is an idiot born every minute.

Yeah, listen to Mike folks, his leader is a FED he of all people should know who is and who isn't one.

What can you say about Bluvie? Turnerstein kicked him off his network and then spit into his microphone as he was ripping him another one. Proof positive that there is an idiot born every minute.

My take: Turner either sent the letter with the deliberate grammar mistakes or had someone send it in order to cast doubt on the authentic emails he was exchanging with his FBI handler. The guy is not above doing this. He knows the movement is full of knuckledraggers like "rockynh" ( or maybe that's another sock puppet?) that will buy ANY BULLSHIT.

Let the drag go. Now we can direct resources to real WNist Radio like VNNR or http://www.resist.com/audio

TT is running a special this month. 5 bucks a month for a different show EVERY DAY. I urge all WNs to support this effort.

Gee, how come no one is or has been screaming about TT trying to make money off "the movement"?? Here is the info from resist.com:

RADIO SHOW SUBSCRIPTION

Currently, 28, one hour Insurgent Radio Shows are sent to subscribers for $20 dollars a month, which is 71 cents a show. For the month of January, I will make the radio shows available for $5 a month for present and new subscribers. To make this offer permanent, I must receive 200 new subscribers by the end of February . To belong to the Insurgent Radio Club, simply email tm_metzger@yahoo.com and say “Subscribe to Radio Club.” The shows will be sent directly to you in MP3 format.
How does this differ from Hal Turner asking for support and then trying to go to a subscription format?

Subrosa,
It is easy for a person like your self to sit behind your computer and say what you want, about anything you want. You just made my point. I looked at the number of the post you have here. Instead of complaing here where it is safe get out in the streets and complain.

I have to laugh,
it seems that the folks that are calling hal turner a rat, are the same folks that support the biggest rat of all Glen "Rounder" Miller HAHAHAHAHA.
I know I will be called a nigger or a Jew for that statement

~
I wish all of you well.

-- HT


Hal, I wish you well too. Godspeed on all your endeavors. But, I'd like to tell you why people don't go to rallies.

Who honestly believes that the government is going to pay attention to our demands? The jew-government has it out for Whites. This is their primary goal above everything else. Above "the fight on terror" even. (How else do you explain their open borders policy? If they really wanted to keep terrorists out they would have sealed up the border between U.S. and Mexico on 9-12-01. They didn't. Racial mongrelization is more important to them.)

A protest? The government couldn't care less. They laugh at everyone as we writhe in pain from their anti-White policies. Ever-destroying jew has the Whites on their hate list.

Are you White and don't like government policies? Good! The jews say. They want to rub some salt into the wounds. Protesting is like asking the government for something that they will never give you, as it takes something away from them. It's like asking someone whether they want a paycut. Of course the answer will be "no". So why bother asking.

Gee, how come no one is or has been screaming about TT trying to make money off "the movement"?? Here is the info from resist.com:


How does this differ from Hal Turner asking for support and then trying to go to a subscription format?


Terrible Tommy (Mr. Metzger) doesn't berate, beg, insult, threaten, lie, or fake health issues to garner subscriptions or support.

TT has the RESPECT of thousands in this Movement, which is WHY he does not have to do any of the above to garner the support he has.

I honestly hope that this is the last time a man like Tom Metzger has to suffer the indignity of being compared to a man like Hal Turner, simply because both men have done radio.

Terrible Tommy (Mr. Metzger) doesn't berate, beg, insult, threaten, lie, or fake health issues to garner subscriptions or support.

TT has the RESPECT of thousands in this Movement, which is WHY he does not have to do any of the above to garner the support he has.

I honestly hope that this is the last time a man like Tom Metzger has to suffer the indignity of being compared to a man like Hal Turner, simply because both men have done radio.

No, that is not the comparison. The comparison is the fact that both have asked for financial support - MONEY. One of the primary bitching points about Hal Turner is the fact that he dared to ask for support. One constantly hears that Hal should be willing to do everything free and at his own expense for the sake of “the movement”. If that level of altruism and commitment is expected from Hal Turner, why would it not be expected even more so from TT who has earned “the respect of thousands in the Movement”? I am not denigrating Tom Metzger, just noting a strange inconsistency in application of standards

I leave for a month and Hal is not a WNist anymore?:confused:

Looks like I got a lot of catching up to do.

Focus on the goal.


Or...as some would say...

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Keep yo' eye oan de prize!

:rofl


-Jim

No, that is not the comparison. The comparison is the fact that both have asked for financial support - MONEY. One of the primary bitching points about Hal Turner is the fact that he dared to ask for support. One constantly hears that Hal should be willing to do everything free and at his own expense for the sake of “the movement”. If that level of altruism and commitment is expected from Hal Turner, why would it not be expected even more so from TT who has earned “the respect of thousands in the Movement”? I am not denigrating Tom Metzger, just noting a strange inconsistency in application of standards


Who said that? Sure, anyone should be able to make a living if they want, but the difference between the shyster and TT is that TT is actually working for the cause, and turner is just working to fleece you. Got that?

TT does a show every day. Turner did ONE a week, charged his broadcasters and asked for thousands a month. If you want to support that, go for it.

Why don't you just send Turner a grand a month so he can leave us alone? Oh wait, that wouldn't be enough, he'll need 5g more.

We are not here for what is but for what will be. Defeatists are free to fuck off. May your chains rest lightly . . . etc etc.

The sooner folks untangle themselves from the phony race movement - White Nationalism, the sooner our folks will get somewhere.

Who said that? Sure, anyone should be able to make a living if they want, but the difference between the shyster and TT is that TT is actually working for the cause, and turner is just working to fleece you. Got that?

Lots and lots of people have said that in many places and in many ways. Lots and lots of people have expressed lots and lots of objections to Hal Turner "making a living" with his show, website, comments section. Maybe you don't think what Hal has done has been of value to "the movement" and you are welcome to your opinion, but plenty of people do not completely agree with your opinion. Got that?

TT does a show every day. Turner did ONE a week, charged his broadcasters and asked for thousands a month. If you want to support that, go for it.

TT also offers lots and lots of things for sale. Again, just fine. I am not arguing with the way he runs his website or conducts his business or "outreach". Hal also provided a website and a contact point for many people through his comments section, which TT does not provide. All of that takes time and administration just as sitting and talking into a microphone does.

Why don't you just send Turner a grand a month so he can leave us alone? Oh wait, that wouldn't be enough, he'll need 5g more.

These are obviously pointless arguments to have because the dramas will only continue. The dramas are what it is all about. Hang in there, Strom will end up serving little more time in jail and when he's out the snakes will start working to weasle him back in and "the movement" will again have Strom and will be spared the awful presence of the admittedly heavily flawed Turner. Won't that be fun?

Actually, I think the idea of a Radio Club would be good for VNNR. I'd like to see the guys that do the grunt work for us get SOMETHING for their efforts.

:rolleyes:A jew, a nigger, a, mud or combination thereof?? LMSWAO! Tell them you have an insider that has access to the IAFIS database, And we will find out who they are & deal with accordingly!! What a Joke

Laughing your stupid white ass off? You have some interesting posts to say the least, ultraviolent.

We are not here for what is but for what will be. Defeatists are free to fuck off. May your chains rest lightly . . . etc etc.


That is pretty much how I see current North American White Nationalism here in 2008.

It's not at all organized, totally misled and frequently suicidal, but it is at least there. The intrinsic truth of the message keeps the cause alive, often times in spite of those claim to represent our folk.

Race is fast becoming the issue in the 'Kwa for the new century. The next 10-20 years will decide what form of resistance will emerge.

I've been doing a lot of work here locally with the Ron Paul campaign. It's taken away from my time on VNN, but it has given me hope for the future. Lots of pissed-off White people out there. We just have to reach them with our message without the clown shoes.

White Americans don't have a voice. Or better to say they don't have a voice of dissent. You are quite free to loathe "terrorist" or love Obama, just steer clear of anything that might smack of "hate".:rolleyes:

But those questions about race will have to be answered, and soon.

If Hal Turner or anyone else is looking to make a living from advocating White Nationalism, they should prepare for some serious disappointment. That's just they way it is.

As for attendance at system-controlled public events, I believe that day has passed, as the "security measures" and "free speech zones" of the nanny-state have so marginalized participants that the cost/benefit is clear. The 55 (stand-up) Whites who were in Kalamazoo would have had a much greater impact if they had split up into 27 teams of two and simply went knocking door to door in White neighborhoods with a hand out to be left behind detailing nigger crime in Michigan.

No anti-White media filter. Whites talking to other Whites. Think less NSDAP and more Hamas, guys.

Our job as White Nationalist should be to provide as much factual information to the White population as possible. The truth is on our side.

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what the fuck compareing sucm hal to tommy.foe asking for some money. i rember you frist POST yamkine jane.we thought you whear yankine jim but in Dragg.you dont have a clue what has takening place.i fulley aggre with davE C,It's ocay man, Huked on Foniks phucked me up, 2.

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Laughing your stupid white ass off? You have some interesting posts to say the least, ultraviolent.

Laughing My SKINNY white ass Off..

Fuck your mother!! Jackass:rofl