General Lee asked me if I was going to post the picture of the buck I bagged on our recent hunting trip. I think he wants you all to see the lovely critters that roam his property.

http://tinyurl.com/3re5ew

He breaks down as follows. 2 roasts, 8 steaks, 10 pounds of sausage, and 17 pounds of venison burger. He's currently on ice at the processor and should be home next week for New Years dinner.

OMG he pixelized his hand. ROTFLMWAO!

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I've seen that photo before but it's a lot funnier now. :D

I've seen that photo before but it's a lot funnier now. :D

Too bad the deer didn't whack you.

I am pro-gun, but only for protection and gaming purposes and I know animals kill one another which is quite unfortunate.

At least I am doing my part to keep innocent animals from being murdered.

A pig can make a great pet and supposedly they are smarter than dogs. They are not smelly either.

Nice road kill

I am going to try again this weekend, OT. The past few days they have been coming out only after dark eating up the food plot, but never when there's enough light to see them, let alone get a shot.

It's been unseasonably warm this past week and for some reason, they tend not to be active when it's like that. We've got a cool front coming through though and I'm hoping to bag one Sunday.

Too bad the deer didn't whack you.

Next time I go hunting I'll leave a rifle out near the feed plot just to make if fair.

I am going to try again this weekend, OT. The past few days they have been coming out only after dark eating up the food plot, but never when there's enough light to see them, let alone get a shot.

It's been unseasonably warm this past week and for some reason, they tend not to be active when it's like that. We've got a cool front coming through though and I'm hoping to bag one Sunday.

I can see where it getting dark can be a problem and remember our checking out the food plot on Sunday morning and seeing they had checked it out.

Warm here too. Almost uncomfortable as I expect it to be colder now. I've heard about the cold front and am looking forward to it myself.

OMG he pixelized his hand. ROTFLMJAO!

Fixed it for you.

OT is being too reserved about his accomplishment. At about 5:20PM the sun was almost completely gone and a full moon was rising. Twighlight. Five deer, 3 doe and two bucks, came into the food plot near his stand. The two bucks started sparring with each other over which one would have access to the doe. With one carefully placed shot, OT settled that dispute for them. He made a perfect heart shot. The buck only ran about 50 feet before it dropped. We were in a muddy area as it had just snowed about 6 inches the day before and was melting slowly. I couldn't get the four wheeler started so we took our chances and drove in with a truck and loaded the deer. It was about a 120 to 140 pound young buck.

We brought the deer back to my place and hung him up on a frame. I never had to pick up the knife, OT dressed him out with only a few simple instructions I gave him. That's going to yeild about 30 - 35 pounds of excellent boneless meat.

He looks like a small sucker. Is that an average one?

That's going to yeild about 30 - 35 pounds of excellent boneless meat.

I was hoping to have a venison roast to offer the family for Christmas dinner but the processor is pretty busy. After I unloaded mine there were three other hunters that came in with their deer.

You helped me out immensely with the question of field dressing General. That was the biggest impediment to my going hunting. I didn't want to go and not be able to properly dress the deer and save the meat. Killing an animal for the sake of killing isn't appealing.

I'll be interested to hear of your trip this weekend. We supposed to have showers here Sunday morning but clearing and cooler (50) by afternoon. I suspect Sunday evening will be rewarding for you if not Saturday.

Allow me to share the negative rep I received from Roberto Abbondanza (http://vnnforum.com/member.php?u=5349) for my harvesting the fine specimen above.

Read your mythical Bible. At least it DOES tell ya not to KILL. Not too much of a faithful Xian, are ya?

General Lee is going to have to school you on why hunting is necessary. If I had a faster connection I would search for a recent post he made on just that subject.

He looks like a small sucker. Is that an average one?

They're white tail, so they are smaller than the mule deer or even the red deer you see on the covers of sporting magazines. But even putting that aside, they have been running small the past couple of years. The one OT got is about the average we've been getting for bucks -- 120 to 140 lbs. Doe are around 80 or 90. We've been in a pretty severe drought in the southeast for a couple of years, so their usual food sources are not yeilding as well resulting in smaller deer. The gaming commission has opened the doe season all year this year with the objective of having fewer, but larger deer in the coming years. Hopefully we'll catch back up on the rain aspect and have more and bigger.

I saw a documentary on yellowstone national park, about how it had changed over the past 100 or so years since the wolves were killed off.

The interesting part was that since hunting is not allowed in yellowstone, and since no predators live there, the deer would graze in one area until it was stripped, normally they would have to graze on the move. Sapling trees lost all their leaves and would die, turning what was once a forest into fields.

So without trees the birds died out or left, the beavers were not able to build dams, so the rivers flowed more freely, so fish and frog spawn would be washed away. Without fish the bear population also declined.Their solution was to reintroduce wolves and plant more trees.

The point is that predators (including humans) are a necessary part of nature. By keeping down the herbivore population they protect the plants, which feed the herbivores, which feed the predators. It's a circle.

Allow me to share the negative rep I received from Roberto Abbondanza (http://vnnforum.com/member.php?u=5349) for my harvesting the fine specimen above.



General Lee is going to have to school you on why hunting is necessary. If I had a faster connection I would search for a recent post he made on just that subject.

I don't even bother to join that debate anymore. It's one of those subjects that doesn't give itself to changing people's minds. As long as they don't try to change me, I don't try to change them. Either exercise is pointless.

I don't even bother to join that debate anymore. It's one of those subjects that doesn't give itself to changing people's minds. As long as they don't try to change me, I don't try to change them. Either exercise is pointless.

You made a post a while back that addressed the issued but was funny at the same time. Something about the deer jumping in front of cars.

I've got my eye on one of these:

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Soup/CastIronDutch.jpg

to hang over the fire and cook a stew in.

Jessica posted a venison stew recipe that I want to try.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=897925#post897925


Think we could get her to come along on a trip? We'll even give her the bottom bunk.:)

You did great Tony. :)

That's great, guys! :cool: Venison tases great with BBQ sauce! :D :cool:
Did GL get anything while you were both out there?
Up here we have a lot of White-tail deer, Elk, Bear, Fox, Red and Gray squirrels, Wild Turkey, Ring-necked Pheasant, Ruffed Grouse and waterfowl. By the way, the fishing is superb also!:D :cool:

...Venison tases great with BBQ sauce! :D :cool:...That's a new one. I never heard of anyone frying venison with a taser, beforeHe looks like a small sucker...It was likely a small bicycle which ran it over

OT is being too reserved about his accomplishment. At about 5:20PM the sun was almost completely gone and a full moon was rising. Twighlight. Five deer, 3 doe and two bucks, came into the food plot near his stand. The two bucks started sparring with each other over which one would have access to the doe. With one carefully placed shot, OT settled that dispute for them. He made a perfect heart shot. The buck only ran about 50 feet before it dropped. We were in a muddy area as it had just snowed about 6 inches the day before and was melting slowly. I couldn't get the four wheeler started so we took our chances and drove in with a truck and loaded the deer. It was about a 120 to 140 pound young buck.

We brought the deer back to my place and hung him up on a frame. I never had to pick up the knife, OT dressed him out with only a few simple instructions I gave him. That's going to yeild about 30 - 35 pounds of excellent boneless meat.

Nice work, guys. Glad to hear it all worked out. What do processors charge in your area? Around here the base is about 100 + specialty charges, depending on whether you want jerky, sausage, etc. This year I saw someone offering processing at $60 base, I guess due to recession.

Anyway, that deer will be some good eating.

The younger bucks like that one are usually better eating than an older buck. I have a butcher who will charge 50 bucks and take some meat for himself.

That's great, guys! :cool: Venison tases great with BBQ sauce! :D :cool:
Did GL get anything while you were both out there?
Up here we have a lot of White-tail deer, Elk, Bear, Fox, Red and Gray squirrels, Wild Turkey, Ring-necked Pheasant, Ruffed Grouse and waterfowl. By the way, the fishing is superb also!:D :cool:

I haven't taken one yet this year. I let a good doe get by because I didn't realize that it was doe season, and I let another doe pass because she was too small. Never one to give up though, I'll be in the stand this both evenings this weekend, assuming it's not raining and maybe even if it is. It's something of an O/C disorder. Only a kill cures it.

I need to pay you a visit. I would love to kill an elk or a bear.

Nice work, guys. Glad to hear it all worked out. What do processors charge in your area? Around here the base is about 100 + specialty charges, depending on whether you want jerky, sausage, etc. This year I saw someone offering processing at $60 base, I guess due to recession.

Anyway, that deer will be some good eating.

Thanks Alex. I was charged $82.07 for processing of 57 pounds of venison. Break down is 2 roasts, 8 steaks, 10 pounds of sausage, and 17 pounds of venison burger. Won't be able to pick it up until after Christmas.

Nice work, guys. Glad to hear it all worked out. What do processors charge in your area? Around here the base is about 100 + specialty charges, depending on whether you want jerky, sausage, etc. This year I saw someone offering processing at $60 base, I guess due to recession.

Anyway, that deer will be some good eating.

Thank you. The rut is starting in earnest now, so the buck hunting should improve.

The processors here charge a base fee, no matter the size of the deer. Then there's an added charge per pound, then other charges depending on what you want made out of the deer. I usually have everything made into steaks except for the really tough muscles like the brisket and the rib meat. That gets made into sausage or ground meat or stew meat.

I've never had any luck with roasts. Venison is almost 100 percent lean. If you overcook it even a little, it gets very dry. So with a big chunk of meat, it's hard to get it done in the middle without overcooking the outside.

Alex, it's probably too late this year, but if you want to make plans next year I'd be honored to give you the same tour as I gave OT.

I've never had any luck with roasts. Venison is almost 100 percent lean. If you overcook it even a little, it gets very dry. So with a big chunk of meat, it's hard to get it done in the middle without overcooking the outside.

Alex, it's probably too late this year, but if you want to make plans next year I'd be honored to give you the same tour as I gave OT.

I remember my mom cooking a venison roast for Thanksgiving when I was younger. Maybe I'll cut it into steaks myself.

Alex, it's probably too late this year, but if you want to make plans next year I'd be honored to give you the same tour as I gave OT.

I had met General Lee once before going hunting with him. It wasn't until after field dressing the buck on Friday evening that I relaxed and had no further concerns about the possibility of being a hunting casualty. Trust is one thing but trusting someone out in the field with firearms when no one else is around is another. I trust General Lee.

Too bad the deer didn't whack you.

I am pro-gun, but only for protection and gaming purposes and I know animals kill one another which is quite unfortunate.

At least I am doing my part to keep innocent animals from being murdered.

A pig can make a great pet and supposedly they are smarter than dogs. They are not smelly either.

Are you serious? Are you a vegetarian?

You did great Tony. :)

Thank you Elizabeth.

Thanks Alex. I was charged $82.07 for processing of 57 pounds of venison. Break down is 2 roasts, 8 steaks, 10 pounds of sausage, and 17 pounds of venison burger. Won't be able to pick it up until after Christmas.

First, congratulations on the deer.

$82.07 sounds like a lot for processing, though. If you plan on taking more deer, and I hope you do, would it be worth learning how to process the meat yourself? I helped render pigs for a while when I was a kid, and that was a lot of work. But, a pig is much larger and hugely fatter than a deer. I'm guessing that a small, lean deer might be something you could process with ordinary knives and a saw. You could make 10 pounds of sausage and 17 pounds of ground meat in a food processor. It would take a few hours, though.

Again, good work.

Mike

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Feed it to the buzzards, I guess. They might eat it.

Too bad the deer didn't whack you.

We come here because we don't like the Jewed tube; we don't need people spouting the same kind of asinine drivel that we'd hear on it. Grow up.

I am pro-gun, but only for protection and gaming purposes and I know animals kill one another which is quite unfortunate.

They should all get along and eat grass, shouldn't they?
How do you think our ancestors survived, by waiting for animals to kill each other and functioning as scavengers?

At least I am doing my part to keep innocent animals from being murdered.

Unless you don't eat meat, animals were killed for it.

Thanks Alex. I was charged $82.07 for processing of 57 pounds of venison. Break down is 2 roasts, 8 steaks, 10 pounds of sausage, and 17 pounds of venison burger. Won't be able to pick it up until after Christmas.

I'm really hungry, now.

...What do processors charge in your area?...I'd get rid of the middleman, if possible. Divide that $100 by the hours you yourself spend on doing the job and that's the hourly wage you would pay yourself for doing it right and for doing it to how you would otherwise wish it to get done. Plus, it's fun work.
The most important thing to do is to gut the deer, immediately. Depending on where you shot it, the risk of peritonitis-based blood poisoning would be reduced to a minimum, when the innards get removed.
After that, the carcass can get hanged in a shed, for a while, so that you can part the animal out, at your convenience. Non-muscle edibles (brain, liver, stomach etc...) are the items which should be either consumed within the shortest amount of time between kill and dish or get frozen for later consumption. I would recommend not freezing the liver and kidneys, though. Because, these are the items which taste the best bar-be-cued fresh.
Jerky is nothing more than sending select meat through a grinder, adding spices, then hang drying in a shed where either the windows are kept open or the shed is purposely built to allow a constant flow of fresh air.
Of course, smoking the sausage would shorten the drying time, considerably

Nice work, guys. Glad to hear it all worked out. What do processors charge in your area? Around here the base is about 100 + specialty charges, depending on whether you want jerky, sausage, etc. This year I saw someone offering processing at $60 base, I guess due to recession.

Anyway, that deer will be some good eating.

My father is convinced that all of those quoted prices are negotiable. I remember going with him to drop off his kill at three different places and when he came back he always bragged to my mom how much of a discount he was able to negotiate.

Did he weigh the animal before and after, after having it done? I'll bet the least expensive processor held back meat, in order to compensate for his loss

Good job! I haven't had venison in such a longtime.

Whatd'ya mean good job? Did you just get some?

Did he weigh the animal before and after, after having it done? I'll bet the least expensive processor held back meat, in order to compensate for his loss

They weighed it going in. These people seem very professional and trustworthy to me. Went out of their way to bring the carcass in from the truck and take the processed meat out to the truck upon pickup.

I wasn't questioning the integrity of your processor. But, that of James Kilgore's dad's processor. All this talk of haggling makes me uncomfortable. It reminds me of a Turkish bazaar. Why is everybody looking for bargains, these days? Do you people go into a restaurant and haggle over the price of a bottle of beer and dinner?

I wasn't questioning the integrity of your processor. But, that of James Kilgore's dad'd processor

Oh, I didn't know that and just awoke to boot. lol

Are you serious? Are you a vegetarian?

Yup. Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian.

We come here because we don't like the Jewed tube; we don't need people spouting the same kind of asinine drivel that we'd hear on it. Grow up.

I have been here quite longer than you and who are you to tell me "We don't need people ..."


How do you think our ancestors survived, by waiting for animals to kill each other and functioning as scavengers?

Yes, but there is something called evolution whereas now one is able to find other alternatives than to continue eating hacked up animals. Hitler was vegetarian, so would to care to criticize what his eating habits were?

Unless you don't eat meat, animals were killed for it.

That really did not make any sense. Yeah, of course they are still being killed, but me abstaining from meat consumption does not add on to the death of animals.

Yeah, of course they are still being killed, but me abstaining from meat consumption does not add on to the death of animals.

Just wanted you to know that Mississippi has an over abundance of deer now. I had to go about 200 miles into Mississippi yesterday and during my travel to my destination and back I passed at least five (5) dead deer along the road side that had been hit by cars or trucks. And that was just one of many state roads in Mississippi.

It's far better that the deer be killed through hunting which is very humane than to be killed by a car or truck which could be an agonizingly painful and torturous death. Additionally, the hunter is removing a life threatening hazard for people by hunting deer. I wonder how many people were seriously injured or maimed by those deer I saw dead along the roadside yesterday?

Just wanted you to know that Mississippi has an over abundance of deer now. I had to go about 200 miles into Mississippi yesterday and during my travel to my destination and back I passed at least five (5) dead deer along the road side that had been hit by cars or trucks. And that was just one of many state roads in Mississippi.

It's far better that the deer be killed through hunting which is very humane than to be killed by a car or truck which could be an agonizingly painful and torturous death. Additionally, the hunter is removing a life threatening hazard for people by hunting deer. I wonder how many people were seriously injured or maimed by those deer I saw dead along the roadside yesterday?

You forgot death by natural causes. That would ultimately be the best for a deer.

Louisiana and Mississippi both have tons of dead animals on the road. It seems like it is a sport there to hit the animal or just not drive with precaution. With the lenient drinking laws there(since it is sold everywhere), of course they are going to be hit all the time.

Good job! I haven't had venison in such a longtime.

Make your baby daddy go hunting and get some for you. We can't have pregnant white women setting around craving venison and not having any.:)

You forgot death by natural causes. That would ultimately be the best for a deer.

Louisiana and Mississippi both have tons of dead animals on the road. It seems like it is a sport there to hit the animal or just not drive with precaution. With the lenient drinking laws there(since it is sold everywhere), of course they are going to be hit all the time.

Death by natural causes for an animal, assuming you're ruling out predation as 'natural', usually means death by disease and/or starvation. I can't imagine how that would be 'best for the deer'. Nature has a way of keeping itself in balance. If you were to effectively outlaw hunting by people, nature would find another way of controlling the deer population. Most commonly, in areas where deer are very populous, coyotes or wolves or other deer predators find the pickings easy and their populations would increase.

I don't equate hitting a deer with driving without precautions. They literally jump right in front of you at the very last second making it impossible to avoid them. It would be a truly natural-born fool who hit a deer in their car for sport. It can total a car or do thousands in damage. Doesn't do the deer any good either.

http://www.car-accidents.com/pics/1-Car%20Pics-9-2004/11-20-04.jpg
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in areas where deer are very populous, coyotes or wolves or other deer predators find the pickings easy and their populations would increase.Even the most rabid anti-hunter would have to agree that a 30.06 slug through the heart is a much more humane death than being ripped apart by a pack of coyotes or strangled in the jaws of a mountain lion.

Yup. Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian.

At least you walk the walk.

I don't hunt myself but have many friends that do. I don't see anything wrong with it if the hunters are complying with state and federal laws. These laws tend to preserve the eco-balance. Also the fees hunters pay often go to help protect forests and that type of thing.

I have been here quite longer than you and who are you to tell me "We don't need people ..."

The fact that you've been here longer than I have doesn't seem terribly relevant when your posts consist of girlish whining that would be more congruous on a forum populated by militant vegans.

Yes, but there is something called evolution whereas now one is able to find other alternatives than to continue eating hacked up animals.

Do you honestly believe that a dietary exclusion of animal protein is suitable for everyone, regardless of physiological differences and corresponding dietary requirements?

Hitler was vegetarian, so would to care to criticize what his eating habits were?

Hitler's dietary habits mean about as much to me as which of my socks I'll be wearing tomorrow.

That really did not make any sense. Yeah, of course they are still being killed, but me abstaining from meat consumption does not add on to the death of animals.

If you read it for comprehension, you'd not only understand what I typed, but you'd know that it didn't apply to you and that I didn't know if you ate meat or not when I typed it.

Louisiana and Mississippi both have tons of dead animals on the road. It seems like it is a sport there to hit the animal or just not drive with precaution.

That would be a very expensive sport.

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They literally jump right in front of you at the very last second making it impossible to avoid them.

Yeah, I was thinking also about something. I remember one time a family that did not live too far from me had a deer jump right in their house from the backdoor.

Or actually my 8-year-old did.

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Eight points, 160 pounds.

That's going to wrap it up for me this season.

Wow. Good job. Congrats to your 8 year old. lol I love how the tongue is hanging out.

Thank you.

I've got my eye on one of these:

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Soup/CastIronDutch.jpg

to hang over the fire and cook a stew in.

Jessica posted a venison stew recipe that I want to try.

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=897925#post897925


Think we could get her to come along on a trip? We'll even give her the bottom bunk.:)

I can even clean the deer for you! :D I made Venison and Barley soup yesterday that turned out wonderful!!!

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