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From: Joey Ortega <sbeyef..._at_yahoo.com>
Reply-To: sbeyef..._at_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [TSCM-L] {2929} Re: phones in the fridge
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Is it a possibility that the person on the other end of the phone is in fac=
t a willing participant in the recording of the conversation. If there i=
s some sort of extortion involved then the it could help explain the how th=
e "3rd party" got the info. If its an in fedelity issue perhapps the signif=
icant other of the person on the other end bugged the phone. Not a difficul=
t thing to do.
Joey Ortega
Steven Rauch PI (Investigative Services)
Santa Barbara, Ca
(805)637-8034
sbeyef..._at_yahoo.com
Rauch CA PI Lic#13734
--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Perry Myers <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com> wrote:
From: Perry Myers <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com>
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2929} Re: phones in the fridge
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:36 AM
I agree! Thanks
From: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com] On Behal=
f Of Its from Onion
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:02 PM
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2925} Re: phones in the fridge
If your going to court with this my thoughts are that it would be inadmissi=
ble. Reason being it is hearsay, to say the least.
That being said, if your looking for a way TO DO this, ya might need to =
pay someone that can deliver the expertise.
Otherwise I would think the correct technical term would be, "SOL".
IMHO
Onion
----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Myers
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 4:09 PM
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2920} Re: phones in the fridge
Clarifying what happened is the following:
· Son and father talked using cell phones. 3rd=
party showed (did not deliver) a transcript of conversation that appeared =
to be an accurate portrayal of the conversation.
· The transcript was not left and the 3rd party w=
ill deny this in a court of law. But since there is no physical evidence=
which we would need to take to court, there will be no court until we get =
evidence.
· Father and son assumed they were recorded which=
as far as I know is illegal in all states since the person who recorded wa=
s not a party to the conversation.
· Not sure how bright the client is but they need=
evidence for any action. 3rd party is not in country although that part=
we would have covered.
· We need help or ideas on the evidence.
· Lastly, I learned that the original phone we be=
lieve may have been compromised is lost. Any modifications to it are not=
traceable now so we either need evidence from the cell phone company recor=
ds if there in fact would be any trace evidence left there or we are out of=
luck.
Thanks for any help in this matter.
Perry Myers, CFE
President
Myers Services, Inc. DBA
MSI Detective Services
2406 W Fullerton Ave
Chicago, IL 60647
pe..._at_detectiveservices.com
WWW.DETECTIVESERVICES.COM
(773) 404-7400 x 200
From: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com] On Behal=
f Of Marc DeRodes
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 11:26 PM
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2918} Re: phones in the fridge
--- On Wed, 9/3/08, Perry Myers, CFE <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com> wrote:
From: Perry Myers, CFE <pe..._at_detectiveservices.com>
Subject: [TSCM-L] {2874} Re: phones in the fridge
To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:01 PM
I got a call today from a respected (so far) business person who said he wa=
s shown transcripts of conversations he had on his cell phone with another =
person. I won¢t share the details of the reason for the alleged cell p=
hone intercept but it was done according to my contact. Both sides of th=
e conversation were recorded so this was not a simple hidden recorder in th=
e car. My question is, any ideas on how we can prove this happened? =
If you have a written transcript, that would be a good place to start. The =
person who delivered it could be forced to testify as to its origins, or co=
uld provide information the next link in the chain.
If this was a clone, is there a place in the Cell Provider¢s records that=
may indicate a duplicate Cell phone ID number was linking to their system =
at the same time? Any little evidence may help.
As so many others have said, recording a phone call from both sides is =
simple. Not only does software exist for certain phones to record both side=
s of a conversation, bit Radio Shack also sells a very inexpensive device t=
hat allows virtually any cell phone to be connected to a recorder.
The other person¢s cell phone that was involved in this recorded conversa=
tion was available to the suspected perpetrators so that they could have do=
ne anything they wanted to that phone. But my contact always had his pho=
ne in his possession.
Your contact isn't too bright, is he or she? To tell you the truth, I doubt=
that anything illegal or covert was done to this persons phone. In many st=
ates of the US, it is perfectly legal to record conversations without infor=
ming the person being recorded. The first thing I would check into is the l=
egality of such actions in the state that you reside.
Any advice of what to do to prove this through subpoena is appreciated. =
Once again, the person who delivered the transcript should be questioned as=
to its origins.
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top" style="font: inherit;">Is it a possibility that the person on the ot=
her end of the phone is in fact a willing participant in the recording of t=
he conversation. If there is some sort of extortion involved then the=
it could help explain the how the "3rd party" got the info. If its an in f=
edelity issue perhapps the significant other of the person on the other end=
bugged the phone. Not a difficult thing to do. <BR><BR>Joey Ortega<BR>Stev=
en Rauch PI (Investigative Services)<BR>Santa Barbara, Ca <BR>(805)637-8034=
<BR>sbeyef..._at_yahoo.com <BR>Rauch CA PI Lic#13734<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/2=
5/08, Perry Myers <I><p..._at_detectiveservices.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Perry Myers <p..._at_detectiveservices.com><=
BR>Subject: [TSCM-L] {2929} Re: phones in the fridge<BR>To: TSCM-..._at_google=
groups.com<BR>Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 8:36 AM<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-F=
AMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">I agree! Thanks</SPAN></DIV>
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AMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'"> </SPAN></DIV>
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a', 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMI=
LY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'"> TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com [mailto:TSCM-..._at_goo=
glegroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Its from Onion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday=
, September 24, 2008 2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com<BR><B>=
Subject:</B> [TSCM-L] {2925} Re: phones in the fridge</SPAN></DIV></DIV></D=
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAM=
ILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">If your going to court with this my thoughts =
are that it would be inadmissible. Reason being it is hearsay, to say=
the least.</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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ILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">That being said, if your looking for a way <S=
TRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">TO DO</SPAN></ST=
RONG> this, ya might need to pay someone that can deliver the experti=
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAM=
ILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">Otherwise I would think the correct technical=
term would be, "SOL".</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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e: phones in the fridge</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAM=
ILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'"> </SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-F=
AMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Clarifying what happened is the following:<=
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FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f49=
7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Son =
and father talked using cell phones. 3<SUP>rd</SUP> party showed (did=
not deliver) a transcript of conversation that appeared to be an accurate =
portrayal of the conversation.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></=
DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d;=
FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f49=
7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">The =
transcript was not left and the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> party will deny this in a co=
urt of law. But since there is no physical evidence which we would ne=
ed to take to court, there will be no court until we get evidence. </=
SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d;=
FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f49=
7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Fath=
er and son assumed they were recorded which as far as I know is illegal in =
all states since the person who recorded was not a party to the conversatio=
n.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d;=
FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f49=
7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Not =
sure how bright the client is but they need evidence for any action. =
3<SUP>rd</SUP> party is not in country although that part we would have cov=
ered. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
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FONT-FAMILY: Symbol">·</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: #1f49=
7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">We n=
eed help or ideas on the evidence.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPA=
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7d"> </SPAN><SPAN style="=
FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Last=
ly, I learned that the original phone we believe may have been compromised =
is lost. Any modifications to it are not traceable now so we either n=
eed evidence from the cell phone company records if there in fact would be =
any trace evidence left there or we are out of luck. </SPAN><SPAN sty=
le="COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
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AMILY: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'">Thanks for any help in this matter. <=
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FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 1=
0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'"> TSCM-..._at_googlegro=
ups.com [mailto:TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Marc DeRodes=
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 22, 2008 11:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> TSCM-...=
_at_googlegroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [TSCM-L] {2918} Re: phones in the frid=
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 9/3/08, Perry Myers, CFE <I><=
;p..._at_detectiveservices.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">From: Perry Myers, CFE &=
lt;p..._at_detectiveservices.com><BR>Subject: [TSCM-L] {2874} Re: phones in=
the fridge<BR>To: TSCM-..._at_googlegroups.com<BR>Date: Wednesday, September =
3, 2008, 12:01 PM</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana',=
'sans-serif'">I got a call today from a respected (so far) business person=
who said he was shown transcripts of conversations he had on his cell phon=
e with another person. I won</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FON=
T-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">¢t share the details of the reason for=
the alleged cell phone intercept but it was done according to my contact. =
Both sides of the conversation were recorded so this was not a simple=
hidden recorder in the car. My question </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-S=
IZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">is, any ideas on how we can=
prove this happened? <BR><BR><BR>If you have a written transcript, t=
hat would be a good place to start. The person who delivered it could be fo=
rced to testify as to its origins, or could provide information the next li=
nk in the chain.<BR><BR><BR>If this was a clone, is there a place in the
Cell Provider</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana',=
'sans-serif'">¢s records that may indicate a duplicate Cell phone ID num=
ber was linking to their system at the same time? Any little evidence=
may help.<BR><BR> As so many others have said, recording a phone cal=
l fro</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-se=
rif'">m both sides is simple. Not only does software exist for certain phon=
es to record both sides of a conversation, bit Radio Shack also sells a ver=
y inexpensive device that allows virtually any cell phone to be connected t=
o a recorder.<BR><BR>The other person</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; =
FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">¢s cel</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SI=
ZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana', 'sans-serif'">l phone that was involved in=
this recorded conversation was available to the suspected perpetrators so =
that they could have done anything they wanted to that phone. But my
contact always had his phone in his possession. <BR><BR>Your contact=
isn't too bright, is he or she? To tell you the truth, I doubt that anythi=
ng illegal or covert was done to this persons phone. In many states of the =
US, it is perfectly legal to record conversations without informing the per=
son being recorded. The first thing I would check into is the legality of s=
uch actions in the state that you reside. <BR><BR>Any advice of what =
to do to prove this through subpoena is appreciated. <BR><BR>Once aga=
in, the person who delivered the transcript should be questioned as to its =
origins.</SPAN></DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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