http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882600.ece

Government will spy on every call and e-mail

Ministers are considering spending up to £12 billion on a database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.

GCHQ, the government’s eavesdropping centre, has already been given up to £1 billion to finance the first stage of the project.

Hundreds of clandestine probes will be installed to monitor customers live on two of the country’s biggest internet and mobile phone providers - thought to be BT and Vodafone. BT has nearly 5m internet customers.

Ministers are braced for a backlash similar to the one caused by their ID cards programme. Dominic Grieve, the shadow home secretary, said: “Any suggestion of the government using existing powers to intercept communications data without public discussion is going to sound extremely sinister.”

Further details of the new plan will be unveiled next month in the Queen’s speech.

The Home Office stressed no formal decision had been taken but sources said officials had made clear that ministers had agreed “in principle” to the programme.

Officials claim live monitoring is necessary to fight terrorism and crime. However, critics question whether such a vast system can be kept secure. A total of 57 billion text messages were sent in the UK last year - 1,800 every second.


WHAT.

FUCK this country.

ISP's already sell our information on to other companies anyway. Why do you think you get so much spam mail?

AND our government has a habit of 'losing' important documents :rolleyes:

Dammit Will Smith, where are you when we need you?

IT'S TIME TO BLOW SHIT UP!!!!!!

Oh man, I have so many great ideas on how to cause mayhem. The day of reckoning is soon(few years, perhaps?).

Man I've always beleived in echelon, but how the fuck can they get away with this openly? What the fuck is wrong with this cuntry, why isn't there rioting on the streets?

Dammit Will Smith, where are you when we need you?

http://www.livemanly.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/fresh-prince.jpg

anyway, i dont think anyone would really be affected by this. there are just too many people to monitor. they could however, use it as evidence

"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."

-Malcolm X

VOTE HOPE! VOTE TRUTH!

VOTE NADER/GONZALEZ '08

Orwell must be shitting in his grave.

Sorry UK totseans :(
Gonna need a shit load of resources to monitor it all, and when you store that much info in one place...how safe is it really? :)

Well, that's settled it 6 years from now scotland takes independance from the UK, fuck the brittish governement :P

Well, that's settled it 6 years from now scotland takes independance from the UK, fuck the brittish governement :P

:D :D
*high-fives Illuvatar*

Man I've always beleived in echelon, but how the fuck can they get away with this openly? What the fuck is wrong with this cuntry, why isn't there rioting on the streets?

Goddamn THIS. *Awaits V to asplode buildings*

"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."

-Malcolm X

VOTE HOPE! VOTE TRUTH!

VOTE NADER/GONZALEZ '08

...What does nader/gonzalez have to do with the UK?

Why don't they spend the money on improving the lives of the UK public?

You could do more to tackle crime by using the money effectively, not building up a vast system like this.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin

What a fucking joke that is. I hate this government.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin

Maybe so, but that was 200+ years ago.

Alot has changed since then.
More dangers, more threats, more possesive value.

Fixed News (err FOX news) reported on this...and before they switched topics the host said "well, its to fight terrorism"

The motherfucking police state will come under the pretense of terrorism. That doesn't make it excusable or acceptable in the slightest.

Terrorism is a non-threat. People not wearing seatbelts kills more people every year than terrorism, yet we're not cracking down on civil liberties and eroding rights for that.

FUCK THIS SHIT.

I'm leaving, fuck this place.

I leave or a blow shit up, you choose. New labour FUCKS.

They are now putting cameras on fucking trees aswell:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a42059fKpkSM&refer=europe

They are now putting cameras on fucking trees aswell:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601085&sid=a42059fKpkSM&refer=europe

Smash them.

``It's unreal,'' said Dean Price, 24, a graphic designer in London. ``We've been sleep-walking into this. Everyone talks about Orwell and 1984 but no one ever does anything about it.''

Good lord, a thousand?

"In August, Paul Griffiths was taken to court and fined 1,000 pounds for allowing his dog to foul grass outside his home in Bristol. Griffiths said he's innocent and his pet had only been urinating when she was spotted on camera."

Good lord, a thousand?

"In August, Paul Griffiths was taken to court and fined 1,000 pounds for allowing his dog to foul grass outside his home in Bristol. Griffiths said he's innocent and his pet had only been urinating when she was spotted on camera."

The fuck?

How is it illegal to have your dog piss on your own lawn?

Where is he supposed to go?

The fuck?

How is it illegal to have your dog piss on your own lawn?

Where is he supposed to go?

It's not. It seems that letting your dog defecate somewhere and not picking it up is illegal.

The motherfucking police state will come under the pretense of terrorism. That doesn't make it excusable or acceptable in the slightest.

Terrorism is a non-threat. People not wearing seatbelts kills more people every year than terrorism, yet we're not cracking down on civil liberties and eroding rights for that.

Heart disease kills 6600x more americans each year than terrorism, yet over 500x more government funding goes to the "war on terror"

Pretty fucked, huh?

It's not. It seems that letting your dog defecate somewhere and not picking it up is illegal.

It was pissing.

On his lawn.

How do you propose he pick that up?

It was pissing.

On his lawn.

How do you propose he pick that up?

Yes, yes, he says the dog was only urinating, but they charged him with not picking up its poo.

If this happens then I'm gonna start sending floods of emails containing terrorist keywords with a link to this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

this is the end for any Totseans on the web, whenever we go onto BI or any Government/ Anarchist posts we will get arrested!!!! i feel a revolution coming on... or some fake terrorist attack planning...

any1 with me?

1984!

And this is how it ends, not with a bang, but a whimper. All in the pretext of fighting terrorism. Next up, net neutrality!

I feel a revolution through YouTube growing... Everyone, use Tor until it happens!

If there is any hope, it lies in us proles.

Goddamn THIS. *Awaits V to asplode buildings*


Thats almost exactly what i thought

lol @ UK

you guys brought this on yourselves

lolololololololol. I'm in the US.o Shit...
First emails,then 'The World'?
Wow.

Orwell must be shitting in his grave.


This.

4.5 MILLION FUCKING CAMERA'S???

Jesus christ would be bleeding out his asshole right now....

I sense the british people will rise up and cripple the government soon enough. Unless they are already too far gone to even stand up for themselves......

Your(the british) country is fucked up. Just ban all the muslims and blacks and you will be 100% safe. Now everyone go and get a copy of V for Vendetta and get scheming. Unless they banned that aswell(maybe under the pretense of "video depicting acts of terrorism against the state").

Owell.......everyone stock up on weapons, then do what the IRA tried to do.

Related video:

Big Brother, Big Business (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6061213358499552766&hl=en)

Related video:

Big Brother, Big Business (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6061213358499552766&hl=en)

lol the government is not nearly as controlling as this video would like us to believe...not b.c. they arent trying to be, but simply b.c. they lack the capability.

don't get me wrong, im totally with the message but propaganda against the government is still propaganda...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4882600.ece
WHAT.

FUCK this country.

This comment surprises me no end:

wont this just make terrorists just encrypt emails? I don't get why the goverment wants to spend billions developing this when terrorists can bypass it really easily, surely the government know this? So why are they doing it? monitoring normal civilians?

The reason they are doing this, is nothing to do with terrorism, that is merely the excuse. It is a way to curtail civil liberties and monitor the populace with nary a murmur of protest.

How is it that people can still believe the fiction that this so-called terrorist prevention scheme is anything more than an excersise in social control.

The mind boggles.

And this is how it ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.

Metal Gear Solid for the win!

Metal Gear Solid for the win!

lolwut?

I think you'll find, unless I am very much mistaken, he was paraphrasing this:


This is the way the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper.


I may be wrong of course, and slightly off-topic, but MGS is indeed win.

lolwut?

I think you'll find, unless I am very much mistaken, he was paraphrasing this:



I may be wrong of course, and slightly off-topic, but MGS is indeed win.

I know what the quote's from, but whenever I hear it, I think of the codec scene in MGS2 before you fight Solidus.

It doesn't really affect any of us as individuals. Just think of how many emails and phone calls are sent every day in this country. What's the chances of yours getting singled out?

This comment surprises me no end:



The reason they are doing this, is nothing to do with terrorism, that is merely the excuse. It is a way to curtail civil liberties and monitor the populace with nary a murmur of protest.

How is it that people can still believe the fiction that this so-called terrorist prevention scheme is anything more than an excersise in social control.

The mind boggles.

The goverment can already do this whenever they want, its just going to be possible on a larger scale. Theyll still need to fill in hundreds of forms and get court orders to monitor anyone. ... I think. Either way I don't see any evidence of "social control". Even if every little chav msn conversation about last nights fight is monitered they won't have the logistics to take action against anyone but srs bsns bad guys.

Wow is it 1984 already?
Time flys

The goverment can already do this whenever they want, its just going to be possible on a larger scale. Theyll still need to fill in hundreds of forms and get court orders to monitor anyone. ... I think. Either way I don't see any evidence of "social control". Even if every little chav msn conversation about last nights fight is monitered they won't have the logistics to take action against anyone but srs bsns bad guys.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion, don't say there was no forewarning when you are up against the wall.

I hope this causes some kind of riot. That would be quite fun, and then I can run somewhere shouting "MOLOTOV EVERYTHING" without getting funny looks. But what if UK turns to small outposts like Judge Dredd. FUCK THAT. Ah well, still be fun.

Sometime i pity the developed nations and today might be that day.


+1 for Third World Nations.